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Okay so I've decided to run the last 4 Hot Seat events on the West Coast that I'd scheduled, as a few people had already signed up and were disappointed I was not teaching them.

That being the case the last 4 Hot Seat events I'll be running personally (Papa will continue doing them overseas) are in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, and Honolulu.  I may cancel Honolulu as there's usually only 3 or 4 people (compared to the typical 50 or 100) but if anyone in the Hawaii pickup group wants a Hot Seat in Honolulu you can gather a handful of people and let me know -- I lived in Honolulu for 3 years and I'm always down to teach there.

Obviously I can't continue running around the country like a madman forever, especially with my second child being born in 2 or 3 months, so assume the Free Tour and Hot Seat events you see coming up will potentially be my last. The dates are the following...:

Los Angeles Free Tour & Hot Seat:  May 26, May 28
San Francisco Free Tour & Hot Seat:  June 9, June 11
Seattle Free Tour & Hot Seat:  June 23, June 25
Honolulu Free Tour & Hot Seat (Hot Seat is tentative):  July 14, July 16

That's about it for me for the time being!  My son will be born after that so I'll be taking some time off.  If you've ever considered doing my events and you live in or nearby these cities, click over to these sites right now.  I'm also doing Bootcamps those weekends, some of which are already full.

www.rsdfreetour.com / www.rsdhotseat.com / www.rsdbootcamp.com

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So I've just gotten back from about a month of nonstop travel.

Chicago, New York, Washington DC, and then back to Chicago for an entrepreneur's event (I'm on the board on EO Los Angeles -- for any fellow geeks out there).

Yes I've been a horrible father for leaving my son alone that long, let alone my girlfriend with a baby in her tummy.  I come back to Los Angeles to see them for a few days and then bounce again.  Been feeling bad about this lately -- I believe it will pay off for my sons in the long run but in the short term it hurts.

Nonetheless I've learned a lot about GAME.  Yes, yes, horrible father, but that's my demons to deal with not yours. :)

I'm doing this pickup thing full go at least a little bit longer.  I've commited myself to accomplish everything in pickup that I set out to do so many years ago and that's definitely been happening -- recording the entire thing with hidden camera footage in 1080p for World Summit as well.

I want to leave behind the legacy I envisioned and so I've been going harder at pickup than I ever have in my life.  I'm out constantly.  These are among the most amazing times in my life -- I've never had more fun, never been happier, and yet never been busier and more run down.

Anyway the recent smash of game, game, game has yielded a number of insights to me.  Some more profound and some very simple, and yet even the simple ones I've found to be very key.  I'll be releasing them in the coming weeks.

This video represents a very SIMPLE insight, and yet I believe it has the potential to GET YOU LAID.

Watch the video right now and then I'll comment on it.  I know it's going to make an immediate different for you, as it has for me personally.

TAKE A SECOND TO CLICK THIS VIDEO RIGHT NOW AND THEN I'LL EXPLAIN BELOW...



As a notable aside, I was so many days on about 3-4 hours sleep as of the time I recorded this (and on zero hours sleep in the video) that I decided not to try to hide it and just bitch about it at the start. :)

Being a young father running Real Social Dynamics I'm often so overwhelmed with tasks that my sleep is decimated, my cortisol is through the roof, I haven't had a "day off" in weeks or months -- yet I have cameras in my face like "PUT IN A BIG SMILE TYLER!!"

This is a sort of "on and off" type thing -- during certain periods I'm lucky not to have to go into an office and I can work only 7 or 8 hours a day with 2 or 3 day weekends.  But other times I have to go, go, go, and when I'm called upon to do this it's pretty insane.  The crazy thing is I've gotten BETTER at depriving myself or sleep or leisure, and because I know I'm able to do it, I wind up doing it more and more.

I've decided that this needs to stop as soon as possible -- as I mentioned in a previous article, I've seen the quality of my work go down.  In this case I was kind of disappointed when I arrived to shoot the video and my brain just wasn't working.  I figured I'd rather be "congruent" to the tiredness than fake it.

Regardless my goal for the coming months is to increase my sleep and lower my cortisol levels.  I believe it's like a "next level" in my own evolution, as weird as that sounds.  The past 18 months I've proven to myself that I'm capable of pushing, now I want to prove to myself that I'm able to be a balanced person.

Funny how most entrepreneurs go through the same pattern.  They get fat and sick too often in their early twenties, then lose it all and become focused on health.  Become workaholics and then learn to relax and take time off.  Become egotistical, get severely and painfully humbled, and then re-focus on just offering value.  I think my story is pretty typical here.

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Anyway as far as the video goes, I really like the distinction of the 3 layers to physical game.

I'm at a point where I often go physical too early, escalate too quickly, and it's because I'm LAZY.  I know that if I just do this on a few sets that one will hook and will require little work.

The girls always laugh when you escalate quickly because they're obsessed with sex.  They like it, but they screen you out because of it.  Why??

Because they can see that you're doing it because you AREN'T ACTUALLY ATTRACTED TO THEM.

I mean let's be real here.  This is no different than when you're sick of having sex with your girlfriend and you become too lazy to give her any foreplay.  So rather than getting bored fingering her you decide to just "jam it in" because at least the sex and busting a nut will make you feel good.

The same goes for many girls.  You're bored of them and you're like "Well at least if we were making out in the corner this would be kind of amusing."  The girls sense the laziness that you aren't willing to put in any work to be with them and so they screen you.

YET IS THIS THE CASE FOR MOST GUYS???

Absolutely not.  Most guys reading this don't go physical not out of laziness, but because they're too scared.  "Waiting to go physical" will do nothing for them -- absolutely nothing, in fact it probably just conveys a lack of entitlement.

The reason that "not going physical" right away works for veterans of the game is because when you get your eyes right up to the girl, she can feel the full entitlement and lack of fear to go physical.  It's extremely obvious to her, in the same way it's obvious that a trained fighter can get in your face and it's obvious he's not afraid to kick your ass.

So it's in that subtlety of the lack of fluctuation in the eyes -- that sexual steadiness that the girl senses from you -- that makes her realize "Wow this guy likes me, but he's in completely control of HIMSELF AND ME."

This is sweet because the girl will put her lips right up on your lips, dance in front of you and try to turn you on, and you're up in her face but showing that she needs to turn you on MORE.

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So as far as implementation.............there's no use to any of this if you aren't able to do the immediate physical stuff.

Going immediately physical is so important in loud clubs in order to take control of the girl, and so important as far as pulling girls out of mixed groups quickly, and so many other things.

Physical game is so important, it conveys so much.  What I'm saying is there's different levels to it.  Everything comes full circle.  If you're still new to this, go hit the first level.

And if you feel you could benefit from going from the second to the third, maybe it's time. :)

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BTW as far as the New York Free Tour video I was talking about last week, I've decided to cut it down to about 35 minutes instead of releasing the entire video.

The reason for this is that I like the material in the middle so much that I want to develop it further and then release it.  I think the material is so raw and controversial that I also need to polish the delivery, make it funnier and more positive, because certain people will freak out and get all butt hurt about it.

That being the case I'm going to release the 35 minutes or so, which are absolutely hilarious (probably the funniest shit I've put out so far...) and then you can expect to see the material I've cut to be released in a more polished / developed format in the future.

I've also got the Washington D.C. Free Tour coming up, 2 videos shot in D.C., and 2 videos shot in Chicago.  That should keep the deck full while I'm back in Los Angeles for the month not travelling.

I'll be recording hidden camera footage most nights here in L.A. to build on the videos I've already accumulated, and then I'll be working on a number of other projects that I mentioned in the forums.  There's actually a thread I wrote about this earlier in the week inside the forums in case you're a front page reader but don't read the forums -- here it is.

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/187608/forum 

I've got a lot planned and a lot going on, but life is good.  It feels good to have a lot to be excited about, as opposed to just walking through life going through the motions.

I'm actually off to the gym right now as I missed the past 2 days and will have to do a major workout to catch up.  Then hit the sauna for a bit and editing up the new videos I brought back from the trip the rest of the night.

I'll be back next week with NYC Free Tour and in the meantime enjoy and implement what you learned in this video and article.  Let me know your thoughts on it as I read the comments -- always appreciated.

And thanks for reading.  It means a lot to me that people read my stuff -- my biggest hobby is game and creating new ideas, and this is what allows me to do it! :)

Tyler

PS:  This is pretty much it for me personally doing Hot Seats for a while, and possibly forever, so take advantage!  I gave forewarning that that was it for the East Coast, and this is pretty much it on the West.

Los Angeles Free Tour & Hot Seat: May 26, May 28
San Francisco Free Tour & Hot Seat: June 9, June 11
Seattle Free Tour & Hot Seat: June 23, June 25
Honolulu Free Tour & Hot Seat (Hot Seat is tentative): July 14, July 16

www.rsdfreetour.com / www.rsdhotseat.com / www.rsdbootcamp.com
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#1
TigerRSD

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1st!!! Thanks tyler :D
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Funny you say you are sleepy the vibe from that vid is one of the best i've seen from you.

Agree with the physical thing 100% I always used to bang on about how you had to push your comfort zone to the max in a club so that absolutely nothing is crazier than 'that time a chick jacked you off in the middle of the dancefloor' or 'that time you get kicked out for fucking in the corner.'
It is the natural progression of shit.....fireworks, then hot searing coal. See what you can 'get away with' then play by the rules.

Vegas this year is going to be fucking EPIC
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Yeah... totally still outside my reality.  Still gotta internalize escalation...
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Alright, good stuff man. I agree with pretty much everything you are saying. Going physical early = fun, but not always the most optimal choice.

I am going through a similar phase as you are with the burn out. I am stressed and can't sleep. That shit sucks, but life is still awesome. You just have to remind yourself of it sometimes :)
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 Another Solid article/video 

Thanks Dude. 
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 Good post Tyler!

I'm planning on going to the San Fran Free Tour, is it mandatory to reserve a seat? Or can I just show up?
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Hey tyler, loved it.

In terms of your presentation, i kind of liked it how you were relaxed. maybe you should deprive yourself of sleep more for upcoming videos, or just be more chilled out. I think you'd get across to a larger audience with this type of presentation.
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i am so excited to live in a time where i can connect with minds like yours on through the internet. such an extreme blessing its ridiculous. awesomeness.

video was really cool too. you seem to grow centered and mature at such a fast rate..its like every vlog i watch, i see newness in you, an evolved person, from even the week before, that is literally noticeable as i watch it. unless i am imagining it but i dont think so. :) it just goes to support the principle of momentum and is also very inspiring coming from the 'figurehead‘ of the beacon of hope that is RSD.

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Thanks Owen! It's amazing the value you give to  us. Only your vibing and energy suppose a radical change in my everyday life.
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Hey, spot on, nice vid,

but,

sometimes you refrain from getting super physical, although you know you can, and the girl dismisses you because she thinks you're a chode. It happens especially when you're tired or out of state. Anything to say about it MISTER COOK ?
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 Thank you Owen for the great value. Lovin it!
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Great article. I'm working on vibing now, but i definately see the value in going physical from the jump, easier said than done though.

Anyway thanks for the vid/article.
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Paris Boum Boum wrote:
Hey, spot on, nice vid, but,

sometimes you refrain from getting super physical, although you know you can, and the girl dismisses you because she thinks you're a chode. It happens especially when you're tired or out of state. Anything to say about it MISTER COOK ?

Good vid bro, (; but,
Anything to say about it MISTER COOK ? lol kkkkk

Kame Hame Ha! 8============O
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awesome post. I'm devoting the next 3 months to just getting physical and also vomiting cuz i suck at that right now. lol
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Awesome. Sometimes you have to focus on something pretty hardcore to develop it, but once it's developed you can  ease off and not use it as much. Physicality in this case.

It's also a similar thing with guys fucking with your sets. Guys used to try to blow me out and steal my girls a lot. So I did a month long mission where I went around the club trying to steal girls from other guys and blow guys out like crazy. Now, guys can just see that I have experience tooling guys so they stay back and don't mess with my sets nearly as much.
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All the stuff from RSD could easily be taught to women, instead of men.
If evolution would have made all men think of women as lower value than men.
Think about it :P

Cool vid btw :)
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Tyler,
I bet, your next article will be on a more general topic of FULL CIRCLE.

I just see how this paradox applies to our lives.
1) I remember your talk on BP about Love (chode) -> Pickup -> Confidence -> Love (pimp).
2) Now I see it in today's article: No physicality (chode)-> Hardcore physical -> Entitlement -> No physicality (pimp)

3) And it can again apply to self-improvement. 
Self-improvement (approval seeking) -> pickup -> self-acceptance (no approval seeking) -> self-improvement (for my healthy self) -> Balance. This formula may not work fully if you decide to devote yourself solely to banging chicks, then you become quite confident but a scumbag. Short-term mating strategy vs. Long-term.

I used to confuse self-improvement and self-acceptance for pickup purposes. Self-acceptance is like unwiring all the unnecessary and letting your self shine through - enough for pickup. Self-improvement is not necessary for pickup - it's more to care about your lovely self in the long-term. Actually I found myself sometimes very lazy in improvement of lifestyle once I got addicted to pickup. Then, I needed discipline to take massive action to push myself forward in this quite short life because I am not dumb :)
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Hey Tyler

Enjoyed the AMOG fight intent -/ physical intent with women comparison.

I was wondering if at some stage you could actually make a video and a detailed article(s) on AMOGS and post all the information you have accumulated and experienced on the matter.

The reason I ask is because for the few years i've done this (and i'm not putting myself at an immeditary level even, maybe a little bit more advanced than newbie) I seem to attract them like moths to a flame.

Lately i'm so reactive about it, that I really just get mad, they are like a pet peeve and I get tempted to step up with very harsh words and even push them and start a fight. The stupid thing is I don't like fighting at all, but they aggrivate the hell out of me.

I get tooled by them e.g. noogied *knuckles on my head*, if i'm wearing a jacket with a hoody they'll flick it up on my head persistantly, all these "big brother" tactics that one does, and I have no clue how to respond.

The other week I just said "fuck off" and one did. But it happens all the time because in my self-amusement I come across very fun and goofy, a very happy friendly guy if you will, but also it seems like a guy AMOGs can fuck with.

I've responded by A) Doing Nothing, looking Unreactive B) Copying the same action and executing it on them C) Giving them my approval "That was good man, good work!" "not bad"

ALOT of women see this happening to me. The fact that it's happened so much has conditioned me and gives me a certain "chillness/unreactivity", but ultimately it still aggreviates me because I don't really know how to handle it the best.
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Coooool thanks, yeah the more I record the easier it gets.  That makes sense.

It was tough to record this.  Took me several tries not to fumble over my words.  I found just accepting I was in that mode was best.

Cool you're coming to Vegas, I'm expecting it to be the bomb as well~!


pringles wrote:
Funny you say you are sleepy the vibe from that vid is one of the best i've seen from you.

Agree with the physical thing 100% I always used to bang on about how you had to push your comfort zone to the max in a club so that absolutely nothing is crazier than 'that time a chick jacked you off in the middle of the dancefloor' or 'that time you get kicked out for fucking in the corner.'
It is the natural progression of shit.....fireworks, then hot searing coal. See what you can 'get away with' then play by the rules.

Vegas this year is going to be fucking EPIC
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Physical escalation stack.  Don't overanalyze it -- will become natural with repetition.  Go out more with a fun group of guys - repeat, repeat, repreat.


Haze~ wrote:
Yeah... totally still outside my reality.  Still gotta internalize escalation...
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Yeeeeah I think younger guys in twenties and thirties have to go through this.  World is becoming a more complicated place.  Oh well. :)

Try meditation man.  Also pitch black room and going to sleep at same time every day.  Only reason I don't sleep when I travel is teaching programs combined with regular workload.


GaryBusey wrote:
Alright, good stuff man. I agree with pretty much everything you are saying. Going physical early = fun, but not always the most optimal choice.

I am going through a similar phase as you are with the burn out. I am stressed and can't sleep. That shit sucks, but life is still awesome. You just have to remind yourself of it sometimes :)
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Thanks yeah I make the effort to make everything an evolution of the last.  Many times I record videos that I don't release because I don't see any progression.

Sometimes I'll feel something I put out is mediocre but if I don't have content that week I'll release it and delete it later.  I'd rather put out something than nothing because I want to meet the expectations of the readers.

I think of the coming stuff I have on deck the NY Free Tour is bomb, and then one Chicago vblog is bomb and the other is okay.  The DC vblogs are decent but I may release and later delete depending on how people like them.  The DC Free Tour is mediocre and was probably because I was underslept but I think at least a decent 5 minute clip can be dug out of there.

That's generally how I'm always thinking with what I'm putting out -- managing it and trying to build on it.




alexander Clear wrote:
i am so excited to live in a time where i can connect with minds like yours on through the internet. such an extreme blessing its ridiculous. awesomeness.

video was really cool too. you seem to grow centered and mature at such a fast rate..its like every vlog i watch, i see newness in you, an evolved person, from even the week before, that is literally noticeable as i watch it. unless i am imagining it but i dont think so. :) it just goes to support the principle of momentum and is also very inspiring coming from the 'figurehead‘ of the beacon of hope that is RSD.

WINNING

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Good shit man, I found the ideas in here very helpful as well.


VisionsDivine wrote:
 Sick, exactly my sticky point, I have kept bogging Brad- about this for a while and it was so simple. I can't believe I didn't see this right on my face. It's simplier than I thought. Thanks man, I wish I was out right now.
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Thanks bro, and good to hear from you!


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Thanks Owen! It's amazing the value you give to  us. Only your vibing and energy suppose a radical change in my everyday life.
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I think when you're that much of an icey gangster girls rarely think you're not escalating out of fear.

But when you're anything remotely less than that, not escalating blows you out right quick -- which is why the first step is to get very good at getting physical fast with every girl you meet.


Paris Boum Boum wrote:
Hey, spot on, nice vid,

but,

sometimes you refrain from getting super physical, although you know you can, and the girl dismisses you because she thinks you're a chode. It happens especially when you're tired or out of state. Anything to say about it MISTER COOK ?

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LOL yeah makes sense. :)


Adil wrote:
Tyler,
I bet, your next article will be on a more general topic of FULL CIRCLE.

I just see how this paradox applies to our lives.
1) I remember your talk on BP about Love (chode) -> Pickup -> Confidence -> Love (pimp).
2) Now I see it in today's article: No physicality (chode)-> Hardcore physical -> Entitlement -> No physicality (pimp)

3) And it can again apply to self-improvement. 
Self-improvement (approval seeking) -> pickup -> self-acceptance (no approval seeking) -> self-improvement (for my healthy self) -> Balance. This formula may not work fully if you decide to devote yourself solely to banging chicks, then you become quite confident but a scumbag. Short-term mating strategy vs. Long-term.

I used to confuse self-improvement and self-acceptance for pickup purposes. Self-acceptance is like unwiring all the unnecessary and letting your self shine through - enough for pickup. Self-improvement is not necessary for pickup - it's more to care about your lovely self in the long-term. Actually I found myself sometimes very lazy in improvement of lifestyle once I got addicted to pickup. Then, I needed discipline to take massive action to push myself forward in this quite short life because I am not dumb :)
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Madison: Heavy kino is for Fag's = Idiot   http://www.rsdnation.com/node/187257
Tyler: Less kino is more = Genius

Oh how i love rsdnation. lol
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Hey Tyler if you want to work less hours and still get everything done on time etc. try some ideas form this book http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/ (if you don't know it yet).

I got a lot out of it and experienced real change in lifestyle after aplying concepts from it. Your picture of your life looks very similar to Tim Ferris so maybe it can help.

Cheers wink
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Mr. Mtl Madison wrote:
Madison: Heavy kino is for Fag's = Idiot   http://www.rsdnation.com/node/187257
Tyler: Less kino is more = Genius

Oh how i love rsdnation. lol
I have the impression that some people just like to talk down to other people on rsdnation to feel better about themselves.
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Solid stuff.
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Man this is awesome. I have been in that 2nd phase for a while now... It's crazy because I've actually stopped getting physical super fast with girls because I was having better interactions when I used physical escalation as a "reward." Nice to understand the reasoning behind it. I like the fighting analogy too! I actually got in a little altercation last night -- I was super calm and the dude looked try-hard getting in my face. Fag.

Sweet vid can't wait for the NYC and new content -- this shit is blowing my mind dude
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 nice.. again.. :)
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Holy shit man,

You just hitted right in where i fucked up last night. Girls weren´t hooking not because i was escalating too quickly , it was because i just wanted to make out quickly ´cause i was sick of talking. 

I went from the office out to the Bar and i focused on building momentum, but for some reason i was just not hooking. I consciously took my success criteria as low as possible, since the last time i went there i pulled to the bathroom and felt like a pimp. XD

I couldn´t understand why i wasn´t hooking, i was tired but fuck it, i just cut the bullshit and went to girls right up, apparently going physical way past their comfort levels. I just wanted to skip the talk and go for it.

What do you do when you´re tired and not much in a talkative mode, but horny ( hehe)??

I found myself getting physical too hard from the get go, and instead of balancing it i just went for another girl. (probably i wasn´t seeing the girls as girls and i just saw pussies walking around)

Last night i just accepted the fact that i wasn´t hooking and enjoyed the night XD
but i know i could´ve done much better.

Oh and Tyler , i want to be like you when i grow up.

Cheers
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Great Vid and great post...thanks Tyler!!
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Madison, I believe this video is not about that you must ecalate less or something, but that if you  sub-communicate to the girl that you know that you are able to escalate hard, without actually doing it, she will become very very attracted.

If you then escalate or not, is entirely up to you.
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thanks again Owen, love your stuff. much appreciated. reason being is i've grown with the game as it develops so it feels like the stuff coming out now is really the advanced stuff, at least the things tim discussed and you are discussing now. so required for my game right now, its sorted me out far more than MM did. i can't thank you enough, would love to meet you one day, maybe that would mean travelling from london then!

thanks again
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Whorelord~

Whorelord~

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Join Date: 02/03/2009 | Posts: 772

This was a very solid post on an incredibly important issue. Can't stress how many times I've thought about just this but didn't quite know how to answer it.
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#38

Canello

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Join Date: 07/23/2008 | Posts: 1261

It's the same with verbal game aswell...

If you know you can open directly,you can only use statements,you can command,you can lead etc etc...then you can open with an opinion opener...and continue classically with two or three DHVs, old school stuff...

You don't do it because you don't know the other way around...you do it because it feels more relaxed or easy for the sepcific moment or even because the girl will feel more comfortable this way (no big deal about it)..if you know the fast way, you can slow things down...

Finally it depends on how YOU feel and doing what YOU want and NOT what it works...

Because you can  make everything work!

And to be honest here, we've seen the fuzzy hat guy owning the set without being physically dominant..it's his style..i don't say that it is the best style...but it's a style...

Canello
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#39
DICK

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Join Date: 02/14/2011 | Posts: 154

   "The girls always laugh when you escalate quickly because they're obsessed with sex. They like it, but they screen you out because of it. Why??" 

     I think they can screen you out when you quickly escalate "physically", but not just by escalating.    You're obviously still escalating when you hold seductive eye contact right from the start and moving very close,  It's just not physically. 
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#40

Pokerpua

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Join Date: 01/02/2010 | Posts: 102

Thank you for this post and video. I was afraid to go for this kiss close, etc for the longest time. After drilling it for much of early summer, including going for quick/instant kiss closes, etc, I became more comfortable with it. Then, I had a bad week two weeks ago and again, I felt myself being afraid to escalate, so I wanted to run the drills again.

In the past two days, I've been hooking some girls really strongly, but I busted myself out several times by still trying to work on fast escalation. Sunday night, I opened this cute blonde at Rock N' Roll McDonald's and it was really on. Instead of just holding the sexual tension with eye contact and holding her hand and continue to just talk, I kept trying to kiss her to practice fast escalation and she ended up running off. My wing commented about this and another time on Saturday when I ruined really good sets doing these drills. He said that if I had decent logistics, like this girl was away from her friends at the McDonald's and was into me, I should have just slowplayed it and worked on a pull instead of trying something like making out in the crowded Rock N' Roll McDonald's.

Anyway, I was gonna make a post wondering if I should stop the drill work, and I found this piece while looking for the video and it answered my question. Now that I'm no longer afraid to escalate again, I can just work on running solid game and I can try to kiss her later when it's more appropriate.
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