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Hey Fellas,

Doing bootcamp week-in and week-out, it doesn’t take long to notice some clear patterns in guys who are new to the game – simple mistakes guys make that can be fixed in a snap. Below are a few of the most common sticking points I see in beginners that can be easily addressed and once in order will definitely lead to noticeably better results.

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Rookie

Approach Scanning – This takes place before the approach even happens… the guy scans the room looking for a girl to talk to, sees a girl he’s attracted to, then comes up with all the reasons why not to approach. “She’s with a guy…she’s too tall… she’s in a bad mood”. Well, you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take, so instead of seeking out all the reasons why not to approach, let your thought process be this: “Girl…Hot Girl…Get Hot Girl.”

The Decaying Orbit – Here we’ve got a guy who’s decided to approach, but instead of making a straight line to his target and opening dominantly, he instead sort of circles around – gradually edging in and finally trying to initiate with a timid tap. YUK. When I see a girl I want, I am A MAN ON A MISSION. Nothing will come between me and her, and she knows it. Move dominantly and with purpose…let her see you’re a man who goes after what he wants… a man who grabs the proverbial bull by the horns.

The Far Talker – Any guesses as to what distance you want to be when talking to girls (in a club)? The answer is about 1 head length…this is a LOT closer than you think. Get comfortable being close.

Going Interview Mode – Game is expression of self. If the spotlight is on her then by default it means self-expression is at a minimum. Go first – put yourself out there and let her follow your lead. So it’s not “What do you like to do?” instead go first and let her follow… “I’m really into snowboarding” will usually be followed by her reciprocating by telling you what she’s into. Share your opinion… don’t be some impartial reporter, let her know what you think “that’s really weird…that reminds me of the time I…”

Larry King

Growing Roots – Guys, it’s not “let’s stand here and talk for 2 hours then go back to mine.” It just doesn’t work like that…it’s more like “Let’s go to the bar…now let’s go dance… now let’s go chill…now let’s go back to the bar… now let’s go outside…now let’s go chill…now let’s grab something to eat…now let’s go back to mine.” Get her into the habit of following you on the little things first, before you go for the big ones. This also leads into our next point:

Fighting Against the Current: Look, if you’re talking to a girl and you see her standing there with an empty drink I got news for you – she’s gonna go to the bar at some point. You can only hold her in one place for so long before she gets thirsty. Likewise if a girl tells you she loves to dance… you’re only going to be able to keep her on the sofa for so long before she leaves to go dance. If you see a girl glancing around to see where her friends are… she’s going to want to find her friends no matter how charming you are. Instead of working against the current and trying to hold her, let her momentum work with you. Meaning, when I see a girl’s drink is empty I say “I’m thirsty, come with me to the bar”. When you see a girl looking around to see where her friends are, pre-empt her walking off to find them – “Hey, we haven’t seen your friends in a while…let’s go see where they went.” Really, what’s she gonna say…”No”?? “Fuck you”???

Fish

Spinning the Wheels – Ok so you’re at the club, girl is in a party mood and she REALLY likes you. Well, I don’t care how interesting you are, you can only have a friendly conversation for so long before it gets BORING. Or, even worse, before she thinks you’re a prude that’s scared to escalate. This is SOOOO common, guy likes girl, girl likes guy… guy and girl talk for an hour…guy does nothing to escalate either physically or verbally, guy and girl go their separate ways. Girl concludes guy doesn’t like her, feels insecure, develops eating disorder.

Filler Speak – This is where the guy is scared to reveal himself and his own thoughts and feelings, so instead he seeks to fill the conversation using external stimulus, “yeah the lighting in this bar is really cool… oh the DJ is pretty good tonight…yeah I’m drinking a vodka tonic.” Quit hiding – say what’s really on your mind.

Not Communicating Interest – I’ll make this simple. A girl won’t like you until you like her. A girl doesn’t know you like her until you TELL HER you like her. This can take place verbally or non-verbally – but if you have a problem with this make a resolution right now that the next 100 girls you talk to will get told either “you’re hot”, “you’re sexy”, or “I like you”. PERIOD. NO EXCEPTIONS.

No Physicality – Simply put, get VERY comfortable being physical. How? Just be VERY TOUCHY. Practice makes perfect…it’s not rocket science.

Assuming It’s Not On – ARGH, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a guy walk away from a girl that likes him only to say “really? You think she was into me?” after I point out the obvious. Guys – if she’s talking to you she’s interested. It’s that simple. To be clear – She is into you unless she makes it blatantly clear otherwise.

Ignoring the Friends – Take a moment to introduce yourself and chat to her friends, this will make your job much easier down the line.

Not Trying for the Close – assume you’re closing, get verification one way or the other. No exceptions.

And lastly…

Giving a Fuck What Other People Think – Repeat after me…”I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT ANYONE THINKS ABOUT ME”. Good… now say it like you mean it.

Cheers,
Ryan
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Nice one.
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I always enjoy reading what mistakes people make at bootcamps and how to avoid this.  I make some of these mistakes and its good to see others do to. 

Hope to take a BC with you soon.
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Thank you for this.

I'm going to practice each of these in the last 30 days that I have of school.

Thanks.
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wow- great shit man. i found a lot of my own mistakes in there. just going over in my head and seeing where i went wrong before will give me such a huge advantage in the field next time. thanks.
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Excellent Article Ryan!
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Great article! I really like how you mentioned communicating interest and assuming it's on... those have been two of my biggest issues starting off.
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Solid shit, period.

I like the bluntness of this article. I hear time and time, reiterated in various ways, that most lays go down text book...and all this is textbook.

Filler Speak- No more of this shit, I'm going to really say whats on my mind from now on
Get her to lead on the little things first before the big things. So crucial. Doing otherwise is almost like trying to make a 3 pointer when the fundamentals of making a lay up hasn't even been established. Awesome

Thanks fam
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Excellent man, loved it. Especially the part with the eating disorder, so cliche! tounge
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Much love.  Thank you, there were a few sticking points I wasn't aware of till I read this.
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LOVE IT!
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touche...

thanks
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These rules never change either - awesome post Ryan.
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Thanks for recalling some of the basic stuff.  I have to learn to drop the interview stuff for sure and sometimes i am a far talker also.
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great reminder - thanks!
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v. helpful. thanks
question - on the idea of indifference to what ppl think of you, how do you really internalise this and make it genuinely part of one's belief system?  this is something i'm struggling with.  i consider myself a confident and well-rounded guy but the need to please others and what ppl think of me is something that continues to be a part of my psyche (although it has dissipated to a significant degree since getting into this material).  i guess this is based on my growing up and the social conditioning that i should please others in what i do (family, friends, peers, superiors etc).  
will this epiphany / understanding of not giving a fuck what others think, come with practice and working on my beliefs over time? 

wil
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sweet article.  I bookmarked it.  This is a great summary of pretty much everything.
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Finally some article that realy helps me :)

Don't get me wrong, alot of the articles are awesome. But this one is somewhat easier to apply and fixes alot of sticking points.

I like to see more of this  smile


Thanks dude
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Awesome!
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 thanks ryan for the variety of small sticking points - they're really helpful, and shed a lot of light where most n00bs like myself go wrong, however that's not to say everything you've listed I fail at. Touching and physicality is not hard for me AT ALL, and I'm so early in the "game"
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The point about going with the current is money!

Many thanks.

- The Duck

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thanks for pointing out the basics, the things that should just be done all the time. It's good to read this over and over until its fully subconcious.
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Epic article.

Well done my friend! 
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All of this I could work on. Here is what I really need to work on though:

Approach Scanning (as far as approaching women with dudes.)
The Far Talker
Growing Roots
Filler Speak
Assuming It’s Not On
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Filler Speak is huge. That point really resonated with me. Don't be scared of making real, substantial conversation! No idle chitchat about how "the music is pretty good in here tonight" etc. etc. Reveal your personality. Talk about things that really matter to you and that really entertain you.
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You forgot one!

-Holding a seminar (credit papa)
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Top two things I need to work on:
- Not communicating interest
- Growing roots

Excellent article, a lot reminds me of my bootcamp with you.
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 Thanks! This is great!!
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I liked the not communicating interest thing.This is so fucking true and im glad you mention it.

But hey,you have to remind this more.There are many guys that misinterpret the 'i don't give a fuck what the girls thinks of me' or the concept of being indifferent with not communicating interest.I see it in the forum.
I have written several posts about it.


Canello
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This is a gem Ryan.  Thanks a bunch for helping me fix current problems and avoid future ones!

Drama
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Going with the current!  very good point sir.  I need to incorporate this immediately...  Thanks Ryan

cheers,
Tim
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Cool, Not comunicating interest is probably a biggie for guy's and girls as no one wants to look needy, the guy dosn't see it from the girls point of veiw. It is on! I think assuming the worst instead of success is one of the many reasons why a person is not putting himself out there etc.
Thanks for writing this article mate.
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great reminder, solid post, thanks bro
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You are a great writer!

This is all you need.

Thanks Ry-bo.
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Ryan® wrote:

Spinning the Wheels – Ok so you’re at the club, girl is in a party mood and she REALLY likes you. Well, I don’t care how interesting you are, you can only have a friendly conversation for so long before it gets BORING. Or, even worse, before she thinks you’re a prude that’s scared to escalate. This is SOOOO common, guy likes girl, girl likes guy… guy and girl talk for an hour…guy does nothing to escalate either physically or verbally, guy and girl go their separate ways. Girl concludes guy doesn’t like her, feels insecure, develops eating disorder.


Girl concludes guy doesn’t like her, feels insecure, develops eating disorder.
hahaha funny....i have done this in the social circle game ..this girl is hb10. i also discovered that the guy goes to this mindset when he has the
Outcome dependencey..which sounds like" omg this girl likes me..i can not loose her by asking her number..i will make friends first.." . so the guy gets really scared to close and finally loose the set because girl feels that the guy is not that into her..
been there done that . this article is bookmarked..a good motivation..i am done with my pick ups now :D

oh one more ryan
Lot of newbies do not believe that they will be like guru's like TD or yourself with experience and constant practise.
i understand this now very well..Experience is the best thing..practise makes 100% perfect.

thx rsd for changing lives for a beautiful world
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Very helpful article, thanks dude!
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solid stuff, great article
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Thank you very much Ryan, this has helped a lot!

Cheers ^^
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I got my ryan stamp!
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fantastic!
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GREAT that  completly true...
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GREAT that  completly true...
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 Simple and awesome
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right on the money!
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 so fucking money.
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Good post, really helpfull! thx
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Excellent post. Definitely some things to improve upon. Cheers!
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I myself am guilty of a few of these. No excuses. Time to make things happen. Peace!
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 fantastic!! i just learned a bunch
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great words of wisdom there. Cheers man. thumbs up
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as a girl, i can confidently say that everything you've said is absolutely right. when i think about all the guys who have approached me - whether at club or house party, the ones who did make an impression on me carried the 'don't give a fuck about what others think of me' attitude, including the behaviors u've mentioned. great read.
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