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This is my bootcamp report.

I had been thinking of doing a BC for around 2 years and, when I saw that Tyler was teaching again, I knew the time was right.

As some background to myself, I’m 30, always been very comfortable around women (naturally) and have been fortunate enough to date quite a few hot girls. However, my cold approach game SUCKS. I feel awkward, don’t know what to say, what to do etc. and repeatedly fuck it up. This has really frustrated me for a loooong time as I genuinely feel like I have a lot of value to offer a woman (emotion, fun etc.) but I was rarely able to convey this in a club in a few minutes. Therefore, as you can imagine, my goal for BC was to get the open-to-k-close nailed because that is, by far, my biggest sticking point.

And so, after 2 years of thinking about it, one looooong plane ride and one adrenal-filled day of waiting, my BC began….. this is my story ….

(I have included fairly detailed blow-by-blow accounts of each nights’ sets mainly for myself but there is a “lessons from the night” section at the end of each days’ reports; if you’re pushed for time, you may prefer to skip to these).

Day 1

I met Tyler at the meeting place. He told me that I was the only student and there were THREE instructors, Tyler, Brad and Olcay. Sweet.

Tyler briefed me in the car on the way downtown (BC rules and format) and asked me a lot of questions (life, experience, goals etc.)

We went to Venue 1 (a small restaurant/bar) where they told me that my goal for tonight was to open 20 sets total/minimum. That’s it. The definition of “success” tonight was simply to open. So, with my adrenaline pumping, it began.

Venue 1:

Set 1: 2 set, 2 girls – sitting at the bar, both older, opened but very uninterested, kept ploughing, they had just paid their check and left after about 5 mins.
Set 2: 6 set, 3 guys, 3 girls, seated, 3 MARRIED COUPLES!, talked for about 10 mins, went OK, they were clearly a little uncomfortable (and older), when their food came I ejected.
Set 3: 3 set, 2 girls and 1 guy, very friendly, just chatted, one girl was very cute, other OK, chatted for about 15mins, went very well, Brad told me to isolate so I pulled her to the bar, didn’t ask for digits but could gave got them easily and anyway, they were going to the same club we were going to later.

Venue 2:

Set 4: 4 set, all girls, group near bar, made some progress, one was semi-interested, but they all left.
Set 5: 2 set, 2 girls, Brad winged me, black girl and another friend, lots of touching, number close.
Set 6: Came over to wing Tyler, hot girl, great tits, lots of IOIs (by this stage I was very chill and was letting her come to me), her friend wanted to leave so they did.
Set 7: Winged Olcay on seated set, TOLD them I was going to pull a chair up, easy IOIs, good talk but ejected as not interested.
Set 8: Tyler sent me into a 4 set, 2 guys, 2 asian girls with the instruction to get the tall girl and blow the dude out. Dude was quite alpha and it did not work well. She wanted her friends to leave but one was into me, then her cute friend came over and was touching me, moved her to water bed, told her she must be drunk because I could smell alcohol, told her I didn’t drink so one kiss from her and I would be drunk, went for kiss, she pulled back a little at first, kept talking, tried again and got makeout. Ejected to find Tyler.
Set 9? (lost count by this point): Moving set. Didn’t hook.
Set 10: 4 set, seated, Tyler had me jump on the podium, wave my arms in the air and then sit down with them, Irish girls, easy to talk to, Brad came in to wing. Vibed, Tyler came in, told me when to eject.
Set 11: Single girl, Tyler told me to say hi to the girl next to me which I did, she immediately said “you’re cute” and IMMEDIATELY Tyler whispered “tell her to close her eyes and kiss her”, I told her to close her eyes, she did, MAKEOUT. My first glimpse of Tyler’s Jedi mind skills ha ha.
Set 12: 2 set leaving the club, Tyler told me to grab her arm, Czech girls, mine was really cute, Brad winged me, they were really into us, number closed, felt I could have kiss closed if I knew how and isolated better. . She’s been texting me ever since…… and that was over a week ago!

Venue 3:

Set 13: 3 set, 2 girls, 1 guy, seated, one girl was AMAZING, very friendly, when Tyler pulled me out I could tell she was into me, giving me the fuck-me eyes as I ejected.
Set 14: 3 set, 2 girls (Aussie), I guy (American, AMOG), Tyler told me to go in and talk to the hot girl only, ignore the guy and pull out the hottie, the guy was talking to me and Tyler (standing behind me) was whispering to me (ignore him, ignore him), I ignored the AMOG and pulled the girl away, we talked for a minute but her friend pulled her away but she was keeping eye contact with me and seemed into me, went back in and number closed. She’s also been texting me ever since.

De-brief in Hotel Lobby:

Tyler asked me what I thought I had learned from tonight. Told him that isolating quickly was the biggest thing. He said that approaching mixed sets was probably even bigger (which is true). He told me that “tonight was basically perfect”. AWESOME. He also warned me that a lot of people struggle the night after a great night because they get lazy so watch out for that.

Day 1 Lessons Learned:

- Opening mixed sets is NOT harder – just do it.
- Isolate every target quickly.
- Ignore AMOGs almost completely OR occasionally, if you can make it work, display alpha characteristics with them (but usually just ignore them). Sometimes AMOGs seem friendly but they may just be asking logical questions to distract you from the girls.
- Watch for the instant makeout.
- The “close your eyes” kiss-close is awesome.
- You need to COMPLETELY LOSE all outcome dependency (“Could it be that losing outcome dependency IS the whole game?” - Tyler).
- “Pick-up is about working the venue not the set/girl” – Tyler. A great PUA accepts and does not resist the fact that he starts the night “yuck” and takes time to get to “woooo”. Don’t rush this. Just go from set to set without pausing, become talkative and the “wooooo” will come.
- Because my definition of success for the night was opening only, not trying to go further, and just keeping an eye on what Tyler wanted me to do, I got MASSIVE attraction from several really hot girls!! MASSIVE EPIPHANY!
- When I ejected from sets which were going well, the girls FOLLOWED ME AROUND!!
- When I was in a “wooooo” state, being cocky and funny came naturally.
- When girls who you have previously opened see you go from set to set, they look mystified and keep watching you, MASSIVE IOIs.
- The real secret to pick-up is that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy
- Escalate physically quickly.

Day 2

Met Olcay, Tyler and Brad.

Venue 1 (very quiet bar):

Set 1: Tyler told me to go to the seated 2 set (girls) and just stare weirdly at them, getting closer all the time. They started laughing a lot IMMEDIATELY. Good set. Olcay winged me. 2 attractive, successful girls. The set ran for a while until Tyler pulled me out.

Venue 2 (VERY hot club):

Seminar and exercises.

Set 2: Seated 3 set, 2 asian girls, one white. Went very well. Told them how shy I was whilst grabbing one etc. Very, very successful set. Wasn’t into any of them but went well.
Set 3: Opened a 2 set. Not into either of them but went OK.
Set 4: Tyler sent me into a 4 set (2 girls 2 guys) with the instruction to blow the dudes out by talking to the girls and ignoring the guys. I went in loud and talked to the girls (both persian) and ignored the guys almost completely. The AMOGs got upset and started insulting me, I replied “awesome buddy” and kept on with the girls. The 2 AMOGs left within a few minutes and one of the girls told me “sorry about those guys – we don’t even know them”. EPIPHANY
Set 5: 1 set, older girl, professional dance teacher, taught me some salsa, Brad told me to pull her in HARD, Tyler told me to do the eyes-closed k-close. I did, and although I didn’t get the kiss, she responded well. IMPORTANT: Tyler told me that when she pulled back after the kiss attempt (but generally responded well), not to laugh it off. Stay close, keep eye contact and a small smile and create tension until she kisses you. AWESOME.
Set 6: clawed drunk girl with big boobs – bumpy until Tyler told me to try the eyes-closed k-close. Kissed her for a second and she became attracted but it didn’t go anywhere.

On way to Venue 3:

Set 7: Tyler had me walk up to a huge group of girls walking down the road and stand in front of them and do bodybuilding poses. They went nuts!!!!!! I didn’t know what to do after that and ejected. Tyler later told me that I should have grabbed one, lowered my energy A LITTLE and said “hi” etc. and then isolated and lowered energy further etc.

Venue 3:

Set 8: Girl in group on other side of a drinks bar, kept ploughing but she wasn’t interested.
Set 9: 2 asian girls seated, both attracted, 1 really cute, Tyler told me to get the number and then eject, the cute one said no because she had a boyfriend (I felt like it was too early to ask her number and could have got it later) and the other (foreign) didn’t have a US phone.
Set 10: pussied out – group of about 8 black girls seated in the restaurant and Tyler told me to go up ad wave my hands in the air all silly. I couldn’t and went up instead and told them I wanted to meet them. Went OK and Tyler pulled me out after about a minute.

Venue 4:

Set 11: Seated 4 set (female) from Venue 2 – went over and ate marshmallows with them – went OK, initial attraction died. I think I am saying and doing too much perhaps.

De-brief in Hotel Lobby.

Day 2 Lessons Learned:

 Exercises: (1) free association (say a sentence and then take one word from it and create a new sentence and then take one word from that sentence and create another new one – continue for 3 minutes) – this gets you talkative, creative and out of your head; (2) talk for 3 minutes about your day one year from now (in the past tense) whilst your friends try to distract you; (3) say a sentence to each person 3 times – one with Trying for Rapport, one with Neutral Rapport and one with Breaking Rapport (Tyler said that the correlation between people who are good at this and people who are good at game is scary). Olcay had a useful analogy for this where Brad and I took it in turns to pretend to bump into each other in 5 years time and one of us is saying “hey remember the bootcamp we did together???” (TR) and the other one is denying all knowledge of even knowing the other (BR).
 NR to BR is where you want to be. Me: “when should I use NR and BR?”. Tyler: “your whole life”. He was joking….. kind of. VERY INTERESTING.
 TR sounds like your asking for approval - the end of the sentence literally goes up. NR sounds indifferent - the end of the sentence stays flat. TR sounds like your challenging or even mocking someone (asking “who are you?” sounds like “justify yourself!”) - the end of the sentence literally goes down.
 Tyler told me that learning about NR/BR was one of the biggest things for him.
 Intent and lack of outcome dependence are reconciled like this: you want something to happen but if it doesn’t, it does not affect you.
 Brad: “you must lower your standards of what you think it is acceptable to say.” This was a big re-wire for me.
 You can say some really full-on stuff to girls – they are hard-wired to be attracted to dominant, aggressive, physical males (i.e.ones that can protect them). “You have no idea how far you can go with this” – Tyler.
 Likewise, you can physically get away with a lot.
 Natural/direct game is very different to older school game. Game used to be about calibrating every interaction the girl you’re talking to. Now it is about being who YOU are. Therefore, it will be more polarizing and less women will go for it BUT the ones that do (generally the 9s and 10s) will REALLY go for it. By going natural and direct you very quickly weed out the girls who are not up for it. Indirect/calibrated game just postpones the inevitable (no close).
 When an AMOG insulted me several times I just said “awesome” and kept ploughing. The girls turned their backs on the AMOGs very quickly. AMAZING.
 Openers: (1) just staring with a slight smile on your face and walking slowly and weirdly towards them (2) “who are you? What’s your story? (3) “hey guys, you taking care of my buddy?” (for winging) (4) bodybuilding poses (5) the Claw (often works best to put your arm around) – grab/cuddle them and say “who are you?”
 If girls react weirdly/coldly to anything you say, including your opener, STAND YOUR GROUND. It is basically a shit test. STs can really work in your favour because when you pass them (especially if you pass several) it generates massive attraction.
 Whenever you talk about something that you are passionate about, this really generates attraction (I have noticed this many times).
 Tyler told me that a huge part of his game is asking the girl questions and then making fun of her answers or misinterpreting what they said in a funny way. Also, after they answer a question, he just stares at them and creates tension. His eye contact with them is laser-like.
 What you say DOES NOT MATTER (not even at the open/hook stage). It’s the way you say it, how you feel about yourself, how you sub-communicate etc. - that gets the result.
 How you feel is how she will feel. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 Get in close to the girl right off the opener – face very close to her. Tyler came into one of my sets (seated 3 set) by going up to the girl I was talking to and (with a knowing smile) almost touching his face to hers. She loved it and mentioned it several times.
 Brad: “my game is almost completely physical game”.
 Brad: “If a chick says ‘you’re a player aren’t you?’ I reply ‘yup! I’m the biggest player you’ve ever met!’”. Classic.

Day 3

Best night of gaming I’ve ever had. 5 makeouts. Several numbers.

Earlier today I texted the Australian girl and the Czech girl and both wanted to meet up.

Olcay and Brad picked me up at my hotel at 7pm. We then drove to pick up Tyler. After parking the car we started walking to the first venue and Tyler told us to begin certain exercises to get talkative. Once inside the venue we opened a couple of sets and then had dinner. The bar was full of people dressed as elves and very tall women (volleyball team). It was pretty surreal…..

After dinner we opened a few sets. The 3 guys were opening a lot more themselves compared to nights 1 and 2 (during which they got me to do most of the opening).

Set 1: 7 girls. Olcay opened (zero hesitation). Brad and I went in. Mixed response from different girls.
Set 2: 2 girls. I chatted with one and asked her what colour her underwear was. She told me it was pink with red polka dots; I said that would look good on my bedroom floor. Then I did a take away (we went to our table for dinner) and she literally stalked me for the rest of the night ha ha.
Set 3: REALLY tall, hot girl. Asked her to guess where I’m from, gave her clues and she would not leave until she guessed. Her friend tried repeatedly to pull here away, eventually succeeding, but it took her ages.

On way to Venue 2:

Sets 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 etc etc - LOADS of street sets: Went (Tyler said running up was very amusing to the girls) up to one girl, said “I’m COLD” and hugged her tight. She loved it. One 2 set (philipina girls) re-opened me.

Venue 2:

Tyler showed me physical escalation and unstifling techniques just inside Venue 2 when we arrived. It felt weird having a dude physically escalate on me in a packed bar. Seriousness gayness ha ha.

Physical escalation technique: grab hands whilst talking and either holding them in the “mercy” position or putting them around your waist (can follow up with k-close although the day after I felt as though I should have used “mercy” more (I used hands round waist a lot) and waited longer for the k-close – I was going for the k-close within 2-3 mins…. And that actually worked several times (!!!!!) but I had a few failed makeout attempts too and my guess is that it was just too early for the girls.

Unstifling technique: just step outside the social norms (e.g. scream “AYE! AYE! AYE!” at the top of your voice in front of everyone), then immediately open. Pure gold.

Set 10: Clawed really cute chick. The Claw is awesome. Got a very good response. She left after a few minutes but it went well.
The second set from Venue 1 was soooooooo jealous – literally stalking me now.
Set 11: 1 set, Asian girl, very cute, said she had a boyfriend and was semi-resisting but stayed talking as I ploughed, kept giving IOIs (playing with hair) and then told me “I’m going to see my friends; come over if you want to meet them.”
Set 12: 3 set, 2 girls and one short dude who claimed to be her boyfriend. Ploughed. Good response. The one I was mainly talking to introduced me to/wanted to set me up with her friend.
Set 13: MASSIVE EPIPHANY – massive physical escalation on the dance floor using techniques Tyler showed me at the entrance to the venue i.e. grabbing hands, massive physical escalation. 2 set, female, Brad winged me, my girl was wearing a skin-coloured top (which looked like she wasn’t wearing a top at all which was especially cool considering she had massive cans ha ha). Grabbed her hands, put them behind my back, talked (faces very close together), told her to close her eyes, kissed her. Makeout.
Set 14: Also on dance floor, Brad winged me, 2 set, small cute girl, I was very physical and she was semi-receptive but did not go away. Big lesson: girls will often resist strong physical escalation but they won’t go away – they’re just testing to see if you can hold your nerve. Stay close, stay strong, keep the tension, keep the laser eye contact, DON’T laugh it off.
Set 15: Got opened by cute asian. Went full on and she ran away ha ha.

[Back to] Venue 1:

Set 16: Met a 2 set on the street, one with massive cans, went into the venue with them. The one with massive cans was totally unresponsive… until I grabbed her hands, put them round my waist and told her to close her eyes. She wouldn’t look straight at me because she knew what I was going to do but she started smiling and giggling A LOT. I held my nerve and pushed her up against the wall, held my nerve and kept the escalating and tension on. Ultimately, she would not make out but she seemed to really enjoy being dominated.
Set 17: Got opened by cute Californian asian. Isolated immediately (Tyler whispered to me to do so) to the corner/wall next to the stairs. Chatted, grabbed hands, round my waist, told her to close her eyes, she smiled but resisted a little, pinned her gently against the door, she was going to the bathroom, stood my ground, kept the tension and stayed strong, MAKEOUT.
Set 17: Upstairs, 2 set, girls, standing, I opened semi-cute blond with pure random rubbish, chatted for 2 mins, grabbed hands, put them round my waist, told her to close here eyes, kissed her, makeout. This was the best moment of my bootcamp. It was here that I realised what was working and I was now getting makeouts at will. Awesome feeling.
Set 18: 2 asian girls (Malaysian), seated, Olcay winged me. Just chatted, laser eyes, she said something and did the v-sign, told her it meant “fuck you” in some countries, she said “maybe it was an invitation, not an insult”, immediately pushed her back and climbed on top of her on the sofa saying I couldn’t wait to get on top of her. The stood her up and bent her over the sofa. She was gagging. I joked about taking her home now, she seemed up for it, I wanted more sets though. Told Brad, I could take her home but wanted more sets. He laughed.
Set 19: Upstairs and outside, big group, mixed, opened cute one with the claw, cold response, ploughed, I could see she was intrigued that I was immune to her cold response, went round he behind her and put my ass to hers whilst dancing, she responded very positively. Opened her again later. Blowout but I had the felling that I could have pushed this further.
Set 20: Brad told me to go in on very tall cute girl and tell her “I’m taller than you!”. She smiled, chatted, laser eyes, paused after she spoke to create tension,
(by this point, blowouts were literally irrelevant to me. It all seemed so easy that if I got a blowout I just thought “NEXT!!!”. Awesome.)
Set 21: Brad told me to open a cute blond asian, I told him she was standing next to a chick I madeout with earlier and then ignored, he said “open anyway”, opened, her chode friend (who was the boyfriend of the girl I madeout with earlier(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) told me “she has a boyfriend”, I replied “that’s OK, we’re not getting married”, then looked at her and said “or maybe we will….”. She smiled but it wasn’t going anywhere so I ejected.
Set 22: 3 set, all female, girl at bar downstairs, introduced myself, told her to stand up then spun her around and took my seat (I love that move), got good reaction but by this point I was very cocky (maybe to much; going for makeout in about 30 secs), she told me: “you’re very hands-on”, I ejected.
Set 23: opened cute blond looking for her friends, chatted briefly, ejected.

Street Sets:

Set 24: opened 2 girls with Tyler, one tall blond (not bad), hugged, escalated (can’t remember if I madeout – that’s how crazy things were getting!!). Whilst talking to her I got opened by the cute asian made out with earlier and made out with her again whilst the blond stood there. I told the asian girl I wanted to take her home with me but all her friends were watching and waiting for her a few feet away and so she couldn’t.
Set 25: We all met a group of girls on the way to the pizza place. Pretty skanky but escalated on one by pushing her up against the wall. She loved it.

De-brief in car on way back to hotel:

The bootcamp was an amazing experience and, on the last night in particular, inspired many epiphanies.

Day 3 Lessons Learned (so many!):

 “Whenever you’re worried about what you’re going to say/do, you’re coming from the wrong frame.” - Brad
 The tap tap opener. I noticed Tyler kept tapping one girl even when talking to her. He said it was very good for getting/and keeping attention.
 Stand your ground. Create tension.
 NR/BR is the Rosetta Stone of PU.
 “You’re more likely to get blown out from under-escalating than over-escalating” – Brad. MASSIVE EPIPHANY.
 Successful PU is about self-trust i.e. going in and just trusting who you are.
 When you’re talking to a girl just take her hands and put them in the “mercy” position and/or around your waist. Do this early, whilst taking and don’t give a reason.
 The Claw is awesome.
 As the night begins, Tyler told me to start little conversations with people to get talkative. No PU stuff. Just getting talkative. He later told me that when he walked off during dinner, he was talking to people.
 “To get talkative, approach and assume the blowout” – Tyler
 Screen for the lay early with ”what are you doing later?”. This helps to quickly weed out logistically-impossible lays.
 After Tyler and I did a set on the street (whilst Olcay and Brad waited in the queue for the next venue) he told me “game wasn’t meant for girls like that”. I asked what he meant and he told me that direct/natural game was really meant for 9s and 10s.
 THE “CLOSE YOUR EYES” K-CLOSE IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 “ALWAYS ASSUME ATTRACTION!!” – Brad (when I mentioned to Brad that some girls seemed aloof he told me they were either shy, intimidated or had little to say. He also told me “they’re attracted because you’re in there opening them unlike chodes.”
 When Brad or Tyler experienced resistance they always automatically genuinely assumed it to be the girl’s issue e.g. very shy.
 Great way to get close to the girl (i.e. cut the distance) is to point something out to her in the distance whilst leaning right in and turning AWAY.
 The re-open after a take away is often more “on” than the open.

Conclusion:

The BC was an amazing experience. I am a very lucky guy who has had many amazing experiences and this was definitely up there with the best of them. I will never forget it. If you’re thinking about doing one, JUST DO IT. Afterwards, the inside of a nightclub will never look the same again…..

Furthermore, it was professionally run and the guys seemed genuinely interested in helping ME progress. It was clear that a lot of thought had gone into structuring the BC so that I would get the most out of it.

Finally, the instructors: Tyler, Brad and Olcay. They are very cool guys BUT they are ordinary dudes. I know Tyler tries to emphasise this point but they really are not cut from a different cloth. Being in a club with them was being in a club with 3 normal, very fun guys. Great vibe etc. It was not like being out with 3 pick-up super heroes (although truthfully that is virtually what they are). Tim’s words from Flawless Natural really rang true during this BC: [paraphrased] “When we enter the club, you and I are equals. We’re both in a yuck state. But I go through a different set of processes than you do.” This was probably the biggest take home point for me. These guys go through a different set of physical and mental processes than non-mPUAs. They WORK to get themselves in state and then draw upon a skillset which they have WORKED to internalise. If there is a magic pill, it’s this.

So…. STOP THINKING ABOUT IT AND TAKE A BOOTCAMP YOU PUSSY!!!! )

If anyone has any questions, give me a shout.

Best wishes

Dubbaldown