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Last night I wen't out dressed as the cool aid man. I had a blue cool aid man shirt, a blue straw, blue glasses, and a blue highlighter. It was awesome. I managed to open a few sets (using "Oh Yeah!" it was awesome) despite my state crash towards the end of the night. Which brings me to the concept of: state.
State and How to Get It
I think state is a somewhat misunderstood concept in game. Just knowing what it is will not help you in field. However, using the knowledge of state in field can help you. The "normal" way a guy picks up a girl is by getting state externally from the environment. Pinging off of the environment is somewhat different. It's like a habitual way of acting. When your reaction seeking you look to others to give you state.
Actually, there probably isn't much difference in results from "natural" game and scripted game. That is, they are probably about as effective. The answer isn't so much about the type of game but in who is using it. In the hands of an idiot both scripted and natural game can be disasterous. It's not the material--it's how you use it.
Since there are so many variables beyond your control, any type of "game" or method is futile.
Mystery Method and other methods focus almost exclusively on getting the type of reaction you wan't from the girl. In natural game, we don't care so much about what we're doing but in how we're doing it. If you were to use the line "Who lies more men or women" it could hook or not depending on how it's used. Since it's not what you say it's how you say, it's how you say it, it's also not what you do it's how you do it. Ultimately, if your actions are not amusing you than they are not building your state. Girls, by nature, derive there state externally from the environment. When you come from a place of authenticity they fall into that frame.
How to get your state internally
State is ultimately a freing concept because we know that it can be achieved internally. Thinking about how to do these things is relative to who you are. For women, it is relative to the environment. If YOU are the environment than she will fall into your frame. This is why "rules" in pickup are futile. Whether or not complimenting a girl works depends on why your doing it. If you are genuinly complimenting her than it doesen't matter.
However, people misread state as a new tactic or technique. For example, do x y or z and it guarantees state. Just like routine's were "gauranteed" to get good reactions new tactics "guarantee" to put you into state. Think about it this way: if none of your actions can get a women to respond, than none of your actions can get you to respond. Once you no longer care about the outcome, you surrender your attachement to "state" in favor of a more experimental approach.
Rather than doing x y or z to get something, whether that be state, good reactions, or both it is important to do x y or z just to do x y or z. The only way to achieve state is to be in state already. If your thinking about state, your probably not in state. The trick than is to discover what things you would do if you were in state and do them anyway (foundation of fear technology?). That is, instead of trying to get state you simply give state to people by being in state already.
Trying to get state is like trying for rapport. It doesen't work.
This is basically a reframe of your thought process. Normally you think your going out to get something--whether it be good reactions, state, or what have you. Now, your simply going out to have fun and express yourself. Whether or not you get state is somewhat irrelevant, because your behavior will be the same anyway. That being said, just like there are certain ways to arouse a women there are certain ways to arouse state. One of these things is not longer caring about the outcome. You can either get state negatively (by destroying negative thought patterns or fears) or positively (by accumulating enouph positive emotions).
Getting state negatively is somewhat improvisational because it starts with the assumption that you are already in state.
It starts with the assumption that you are enouph.
Therefore, nothing you do can change that. When you do things just to do them you are in state. When you do things to get a reaction you are not in state, and are trying to get into state by some bullshit. Assume you are enouph, act in ways congruent with that and you can't avoid getting into state.
Slide to the bottom of the hill by destroying negative thought patterns.
Ultimately, every interaction you have is about you and your fun. If it is outside someone's reality it doesen't matter because once you are congruent with yourself you no longer care.
State and How to Get It
I think state is a somewhat misunderstood concept in game. Just knowing what it is will not help you in field. However, using the knowledge of state in field can help you. The "normal" way a guy picks up a girl is by getting state externally from the environment. Pinging off of the environment is somewhat different. It's like a habitual way of acting. When your reaction seeking you look to others to give you state.
Actually, there probably isn't much difference in results from "natural" game and scripted game. That is, they are probably about as effective. The answer isn't so much about the type of game but in who is using it. In the hands of an idiot both scripted and natural game can be disasterous. It's not the material--it's how you use it.
Since there are so many variables beyond your control, any type of "game" or method is futile.
Mystery Method and other methods focus almost exclusively on getting the type of reaction you wan't from the girl. In natural game, we don't care so much about what we're doing but in how we're doing it. If you were to use the line "Who lies more men or women" it could hook or not depending on how it's used. Since it's not what you say it's how you say, it's how you say it, it's also not what you do it's how you do it. Ultimately, if your actions are not amusing you than they are not building your state. Girls, by nature, derive there state externally from the environment. When you come from a place of authenticity they fall into that frame.
How to get your state internally
State is ultimately a freing concept because we know that it can be achieved internally. Thinking about how to do these things is relative to who you are. For women, it is relative to the environment. If YOU are the environment than she will fall into your frame. This is why "rules" in pickup are futile. Whether or not complimenting a girl works depends on why your doing it. If you are genuinly complimenting her than it doesen't matter.
However, people misread state as a new tactic or technique. For example, do x y or z and it guarantees state. Just like routine's were "gauranteed" to get good reactions new tactics "guarantee" to put you into state. Think about it this way: if none of your actions can get a women to respond, than none of your actions can get you to respond. Once you no longer care about the outcome, you surrender your attachement to "state" in favor of a more experimental approach.
Rather than doing x y or z to get something, whether that be state, good reactions, or both it is important to do x y or z just to do x y or z. The only way to achieve state is to be in state already. If your thinking about state, your probably not in state. The trick than is to discover what things you would do if you were in state and do them anyway (foundation of fear technology?). That is, instead of trying to get state you simply give state to people by being in state already.
Trying to get state is like trying for rapport. It doesen't work.
This is basically a reframe of your thought process. Normally you think your going out to get something--whether it be good reactions, state, or what have you. Now, your simply going out to have fun and express yourself. Whether or not you get state is somewhat irrelevant, because your behavior will be the same anyway. That being said, just like there are certain ways to arouse a women there are certain ways to arouse state. One of these things is not longer caring about the outcome. You can either get state negatively (by destroying negative thought patterns or fears) or positively (by accumulating enouph positive emotions).
Getting state negatively is somewhat improvisational because it starts with the assumption that you are already in state.
It starts with the assumption that you are enouph.
Therefore, nothing you do can change that. When you do things just to do them you are in state. When you do things to get a reaction you are not in state, and are trying to get into state by some bullshit. Assume you are enouph, act in ways congruent with that and you can't avoid getting into state.
Slide to the bottom of the hill by destroying negative thought patterns.
Ultimately, every interaction you have is about you and your fun. If it is outside someone's reality it doesen't matter because once you are congruent with yourself you no longer care.

