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Validation as fuel


Who hasn’t felt validated by a hot girl? It is the ultimate form of validation for a man, a man with low self esteem, that is. Does it mean validation is wrong? If so, what makes it wrong?
For some, this game is not even about sex with beautiful women after all you can pay for sex. This game is about validation it all its forms including props from significant people not only girls. I remember when I first started, I approached in front of co-workers in company dinners. I wanted validation from the women in my office. I used to like some of them. I wanted to impress my co-workers into thinking I was good with women. I also did it in front of personal friends for the same reasons. I posted long lay reports on the internet which revealed me as a pickup superhero of sorts. I used to crave validation. That’s how low my self esteem was. Coincidentally people in the game had the same problem except for a few exceptions.
You could say that my validation seeking ways landed me girls and I over achieved that way. That’s one way to look at it. However, it still was validation seeking. I was seduced by the dark side of the force. Really geeky stuff.
Life as a geek
Until I found Pickup life had been geeky, you know star wars, all kinds of sci fi movies and so on. The only thing that was not geeky was my passion for baseball. I silently craved playing the game during the week until the weekend arrived. I had a true passion for baseball (I played organized baseball for 8 years) until I became good at it and started to crave validation from it.
(My last team(green jerseys) playing in Barcelona)
As I got better at baseball (I used to train harder than the other guys) I started to crave perfection from it. I became a baseball nut. I had to perform better than anybody else. As my team moved up in the levels of competition, I became more and more dependent on baseball for validation. I practiced more, I had to go to gym for lifting, and I became more and more invested into validation: more was demanded of my performance- I was measured up against way tougher pitchers, games, ball parks.
If the coach didn’t start me on a particular game, it became a drama for me. My life became chaotic at baseball too. Let me tell you this, you don’t know how hard it is to go from being amateur to pro or semi-pro level. The game changes like night and day. Your team changes when they start getting money. They start to hire real professionals and since they start to pay for travel, hotels and food, and player salaries they demand results… and you have to compete for a starting spot. Once the team moves up in the level of play, survival of the team is more important than particular players. You become another screw in the wheel. The game that once was about fun becomes a business and you are in the middle of it. Competition inside the ranks becomes fierce. Validation from outside becomes a real problem, a drama. People start sucking up to the coach to get more play time. Players start tripping each other. Groups of players stick together, survivor style for support. It becomes office politics all over again. Either you adapt or you quit.
In the pickup game it became the same thing. If I didn’t get laid on a particular night, it became a drama for me. How come? I should get laid. I had taken two bootcamps with the best people in the business at the time and I demanded results. If a particular hot girl didn’t like me, it became a drama. What’s wrong with my game?
Is there anything wrong?
Validation seeking was wrong. But it was too strong for me to let it go. I became seduced with validation from outside sources as explained above. I still do. I am a huge validation whore. I still crave praise. The difference today is that I am very aware of it. I am slowly disengaging that part of my life. It is hard though. I am getting used to being alone in front of others. I have become less concern with students’ validation and more concern with my program’s constant improvement as a whole. I have started saying things like “You, guys, probably won’t like me this weekend and that’s ok”, and mean it.
I am convinced that since my program is in a constant state of flux it hits plateaus every once in a while where nothing seems to be happening; but if I just wait and become patient about it, I will hit a new high in quality- the program will leap in awesomeness (Kungfu panda pun intended, that shit is everywhere, Matt talks about how awesome he is all the time. Dude, chillax. You are just being gregarious!).
I am getting in the habit of listening to my own voice inside my head, my intuition, the sound of my deeper self which doesn’t depend on validation. It is an educational process. You must learn this skill.
The chaos of validation seeking
Insanity is defined by doing the same over and over expecting a different result. This is how guys go after female validation. It is like a dog chasing its tail. He is never going to fully get it.
You could say, “What’s wrong with praise from a beautiful girl or your friends?” Nothing, I say. There is fine line between validation seeking and praise. It is like a drug. Once you taste it, you want more of it. You must disengage. I have seen guys on a scary high just because a hottie validated them. They seem to get out of control with the drug. They get high on validation. On the flip side, they go super low when on they fail to get any validation at all. The resulting emotional chaos, makes them quit or lose motivation to go out. Perfectionism (expecting emotional highs all the time) creeps in and they become paralyzed. They become frozen in their learning curve. Perfectionism stalls forward movement in any skill learning activity.
Actually your success in the game has nothing to do with validation but with meticulous execution of a personalized game plan. You can get all the validation on any given night but fail to get laid. Then again, most are in it for the validation so they get what they want. However, it doesn’t obscure that fact that is a giant waste of time. You might as well invest your time in some other more fruitful endeavor than validation from women.
The chaos of club life
Life in the field becomes chaotic for validation seekers. Girls will like you or they won’t, but you must put your eggs in another basket. You can’t disengage from validation while validation seeking. You can’t quit drugs while taking drugs. That’s why guys fail. Validation is like a drug and like any other drug addict who wants to quit you need to shift your focus, AWAY from the drug.
Many guys choose day game over club environment. The argument is usually the same: clubs are chaotic, loud music, crazy girls and so on, loud music, crazy girls and so on. However they chase after validation in day time too which makes their lives chaotic during the day.
Peace of mind is not freedom from chaos but piece amid chaos. Approaching is chaotic due to validation seeking. You don’t want to stop chaos from coming into your life but what you really need to do is to find centering, piece of mind and serenity in the midst of chaos. Life is chaotic. The club can be chaotic but you can become centered by not validation seeking all the time in the middle of it.
Here is a list of things far more important than validation from girls:
1. Surviving your night of approaching women without getting discouraged
2. Getting laid (you can get laid with her despite the girl not approving of you; actually it is a common occurrence in the game)
3. Enduring rejection
4. Executing your plan of action for the night
5. Simply approaching
6. Overcoming personal limitations
7. Exposing yourself to your fears of being rejected
8. Hitting your pre-planned number of sets per month.
……
Can you think of more…?
I can think of one hundred things not related to validation from women that are far more crucial in your long term success in this game.
Validation as fuel


Who hasn’t felt validated by a hot girl? It is the ultimate form of validation for a man, a man with low self esteem, that is. Does it mean validation is wrong? If so, what makes it wrong?
For some, this game is not even about sex with beautiful women after all you can pay for sex. This game is about validation it all its forms including props from significant people not only girls. I remember when I first started, I approached in front of co-workers in company dinners. I wanted validation from the women in my office. I used to like some of them. I wanted to impress my co-workers into thinking I was good with women. I also did it in front of personal friends for the same reasons. I posted long lay reports on the internet which revealed me as a pickup superhero of sorts. I used to crave validation. That’s how low my self esteem was. Coincidentally people in the game had the same problem except for a few exceptions.
You could say that my validation seeking ways landed me girls and I over achieved that way. That’s one way to look at it. However, it still was validation seeking. I was seduced by the dark side of the force. Really geeky stuff.
Life as a geek
Until I found Pickup life had been geeky, you know star wars, all kinds of sci fi movies and so on. The only thing that was not geeky was my passion for baseball. I silently craved playing the game during the week until the weekend arrived. I had a true passion for baseball (I played organized baseball for 8 years) until I became good at it and started to crave validation from it.
(My last team(green jerseys) playing in Barcelona)
As I got better at baseball (I used to train harder than the other guys) I started to crave perfection from it. I became a baseball nut. I had to perform better than anybody else. As my team moved up in the levels of competition, I became more and more dependent on baseball for validation. I practiced more, I had to go to gym for lifting, and I became more and more invested into validation: more was demanded of my performance- I was measured up against way tougher pitchers, games, ball parks.
If the coach didn’t start me on a particular game, it became a drama for me. My life became chaotic at baseball too. Let me tell you this, you don’t know how hard it is to go from being amateur to pro or semi-pro level. The game changes like night and day. Your team changes when they start getting money. They start to hire real professionals and since they start to pay for travel, hotels and food, and player salaries they demand results… and you have to compete for a starting spot. Once the team moves up in the level of play, survival of the team is more important than particular players. You become another screw in the wheel. The game that once was about fun becomes a business and you are in the middle of it. Competition inside the ranks becomes fierce. Validation from outside becomes a real problem, a drama. People start sucking up to the coach to get more play time. Players start tripping each other. Groups of players stick together, survivor style for support. It becomes office politics all over again. Either you adapt or you quit.
In the pickup game it became the same thing. If I didn’t get laid on a particular night, it became a drama for me. How come? I should get laid. I had taken two bootcamps with the best people in the business at the time and I demanded results. If a particular hot girl didn’t like me, it became a drama. What’s wrong with my game?
Is there anything wrong?
Validation seeking was wrong. But it was too strong for me to let it go. I became seduced with validation from outside sources as explained above. I still do. I am a huge validation whore. I still crave praise. The difference today is that I am very aware of it. I am slowly disengaging that part of my life. It is hard though. I am getting used to being alone in front of others. I have become less concern with students’ validation and more concern with my program’s constant improvement as a whole. I have started saying things like “You, guys, probably won’t like me this weekend and that’s ok”, and mean it.
I am convinced that since my program is in a constant state of flux it hits plateaus every once in a while where nothing seems to be happening; but if I just wait and become patient about it, I will hit a new high in quality- the program will leap in awesomeness (Kungfu panda pun intended, that shit is everywhere, Matt talks about how awesome he is all the time. Dude, chillax. You are just being gregarious!).
I am getting in the habit of listening to my own voice inside my head, my intuition, the sound of my deeper self which doesn’t depend on validation. It is an educational process. You must learn this skill.
The chaos of validation seeking
Insanity is defined by doing the same over and over expecting a different result. This is how guys go after female validation. It is like a dog chasing its tail. He is never going to fully get it.
You could say, “What’s wrong with praise from a beautiful girl or your friends?” Nothing, I say. There is fine line between validation seeking and praise. It is like a drug. Once you taste it, you want more of it. You must disengage. I have seen guys on a scary high just because a hottie validated them. They seem to get out of control with the drug. They get high on validation. On the flip side, they go super low when on they fail to get any validation at all. The resulting emotional chaos, makes them quit or lose motivation to go out. Perfectionism (expecting emotional highs all the time) creeps in and they become paralyzed. They become frozen in their learning curve. Perfectionism stalls forward movement in any skill learning activity.
Actually your success in the game has nothing to do with validation but with meticulous execution of a personalized game plan. You can get all the validation on any given night but fail to get laid. Then again, most are in it for the validation so they get what they want. However, it doesn’t obscure that fact that is a giant waste of time. You might as well invest your time in some other more fruitful endeavor than validation from women.
The chaos of club life
Life in the field becomes chaotic for validation seekers. Girls will like you or they won’t, but you must put your eggs in another basket. You can’t disengage from validation while validation seeking. You can’t quit drugs while taking drugs. That’s why guys fail. Validation is like a drug and like any other drug addict who wants to quit you need to shift your focus, AWAY from the drug.
Many guys choose day game over club environment. The argument is usually the same: clubs are chaotic, loud music, crazy girls and so on, loud music, crazy girls and so on. However they chase after validation in day time too which makes their lives chaotic during the day.
Peace of mind is not freedom from chaos but piece amid chaos. Approaching is chaotic due to validation seeking. You don’t want to stop chaos from coming into your life but what you really need to do is to find centering, piece of mind and serenity in the midst of chaos. Life is chaotic. The club can be chaotic but you can become centered by not validation seeking all the time in the middle of it.
Here is a list of things far more important than validation from girls:
1. Surviving your night of approaching women without getting discouraged
2. Getting laid (you can get laid with her despite the girl not approving of you; actually it is a common occurrence in the game)
3. Enduring rejection
4. Executing your plan of action for the night
5. Simply approaching
6. Overcoming personal limitations
7. Exposing yourself to your fears of being rejected
8. Hitting your pre-planned number of sets per month.
……
Can you think of more…?
I can think of one hundred things not related to validation from women that are far more crucial in your long term success in this game.




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progress-now
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Steve-0!
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Leo-~
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(duh.. seems like a long time! ;)
by the way, your blog is truly appreciated by your students. Never forget that!
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Adil
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Last weekend I had a decent Friday night followed by a miserable Saturday night. I just laughed at myself in the end of that night. It was painful and embarassing but I understand that the journey itself is still fun. And yeah.... validation is a drug. Being detached from it and still going out is difficult, especially after having some success.
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Drone
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Thanks OZZIE..
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dirtysexybandit
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That bugs me. Stop doing that.
AZmagic
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You rock dude.
Thx.
caviar
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The problem is, i'm at a pretty good level, but i chase validation from a friend. This guy, has very high standards, but sometimes i feel like he is trying to put me down on porpouse.
For example, the other day i picked up a (i think, by her photos and contacts on her facebook) 18 years old runaway model, and i showed him the photographs, and he told me "umm it's nice", and i think "what the fuck!".
I know that i shouldn' t let it affect me, but i want to know, why it' s affecting me? and how can i stop it?
Then we have a friend in common, that he says that he was very good with girls, but at this moment, he is weak, and for example, if my friend (the one i chase validation) see or hears something about a PUA, he says "ohhh xxx (our common friend) do that" when in fact, he do that but out of context, but when he see me doing something that, for example, you do, like physical game he tells me "ooohhhh nooo Ozzie is not so aggresive as you, that' s your problem", what i want to spot here, is he tries to find my flaws.
But anyways, the problem here is to stop chasing this particular kind of validation.
Thanks.
Cheers.
Ozzie
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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 2435
The problem is, i'm at a pretty good level, but i chase validation from a friend. This guy, has very high standards, but sometimes i feel like he is trying to put me down on porpouse.
For example, the other day i picked up a (i think, by her photos and contacts on her facebook) 18 years old runaway model, and i showed him the photographs, and he told me "umm it's nice", and i think "what the fuck!".
I know that i shouldn' t let it affect me, but i want to know, why it' s affecting me? and how can i stop it?
Then we have a friend in common, that he says that he was very good with girls, but at this moment, he is weak, and for example, if my friend (the one i chase validation) see or hears something about a PUA, he says "ohhh xxx (our common friend) do that" when in fact, he do that but out of context, but when he see me doing something that, for example, you do, like physical game he tells me "ooohhhh nooo Ozzie is not so aggresive as you, that' s your problem", what i want to spot here, is he tries to find my flaws.
But anyways, the problem here is to stop chasing this particular kind of validation.
Thanks.
Cheers.
This is common in the game among advanced players. Jealousy. You must stay away from such people and try and find supportive guys. Rule of thumb: never ever mention anything game related around them. It will save your soul.
Matt.
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Matt.
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Ozzie
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Freakeee...
Playboy
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I <3 the part about fear
and also my dong hurts...
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Platzhirsch
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I am an attention whore, seriously, not always but often.
I am performing on stage from time to time, and than it is especially hard.
After performance when I am in one venue where I have groupies and all the girls love me,
than I change to another club and suddenly no attention at all.
my immediate response in my mind is that i want to leave the venue and that it suckz.
I have to challenge myself to focus - stay there, approach and take action.
ChuckBr
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It seemed like an awesome night because I had these girls loving me, but in terms of progress I should have gone harder.
Love your stuff Ozzie (although I know you don't care). Sometimes wish I lived in London so I could see you in action.
Sorcerer's appr...
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orgazm
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The german flat mate girl go in australia in August, if someone wants to come to my flat, and spend one month gaming why not? I m mean dial true challenges, but cheaper than a bootcamp : FREE. and longer than a bootcamp.
I suggest that an intermediate dude like me who fuked 50 girls in his life something like that and had a few long term relationships take the flat mate room for one month and then we go out and game, to truly dialed true issues.
I m looking for a dude familiar with the rsd principle, eckart tolle principle, or not BUT a happy dude, who goes out , normally. But then, I m open, like, you can find a job here if you want or whatever.
ANd someone who d like to face his fears , and immerge him self into fear technologie.
Let s inspire ourself from fear tecknologie and do it. Simple, we write our fears down, we go out and walk in it.
Sound simple, but I m sure it s not that simple. That s why a team play could be helpfull.
LIKe the time you stay in the flat,
everyday we list our fears, go out and face them, and use the team play vibe , for a win win game.
I m 29 , I m looking for a dude around that age 26 to 30 .
Anglophone or francophone , whatever, but an independant cool dude, who wants to dialed those fears once and for all, fear of approaching or whatever his fears are, and have fun in the process.
It would be like a one month bootcamp, where we would report everything in on this website, and make it fun.
The hedbo rythm have to be define together, and then stick to it.
Well if you have a good feel reading this. We ll communicate in private, and whatever part of the world you are,
if we match as "team player" let s kill those fucking fears, and have sex with the girls that we want and see how far we can go in a month. Lots of girls here are attracted by english language, so if you don t speak french, it doesn t matter, we ll go through the process anyway.
you ll have a room, bathroom, access to kitchen, whatever , it s cool. My flat : 52 meter square. not that big but cool. I m in the center of the city, in a place where you ve got pubs, bars, discotheque, concert...
I ll show you picture of the flat, description of the city, the context, whatever you want in private communication.
Contact me if interested. I ll tell you my real name.
Walker12
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thanks Ozzie your a fucn beast, when you hit the states ima be there...