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Contrary to popular opinion, the more you approach people the more you realize they don’t expect from you as much as you think they do. You are more critical of yourself than people are toward you. It is a fact. You don’t have to have 3 amazing superman type stories told to them in the first 5 minutes. In other words there is no need to impress. People will talk to you anyway even if you are mildly interesting and cool. It turns out we put all the pressure on us for a grade A performance. People would just be pleased if you are just normal.

Value Coming Out Of Your Mouth Regardless



What makes what you say valuable. Think about it. It is coming from you. You are unique. There is none other. Even if you think you are a super dork with no social skills there is still value because you are a unique never to be repeated super dork. None other like you.

It Goes Back To Biology

You have an unique DNA, none other like you. You got unrepeatable finger prints. What proof you need to realize you are one of a kind.

It Goes Back To Personality

Personality is just one thing that would never be repeated. You have your personal history, family background and culture which despite certain common features with others is unrepeatable in itself. Why embellish it? Why fake being somebody you are not.

You are not Tom Cruise with amazing life stories to tell, your are just a regular dude. No need to be Tom Cruise to get laid. Most guys who get laid get attraction right off the bat, without telling many stories about themselves. It is understandable because communication is rarely about what is being said but about the subtext.

You can be saying the most retarded stuff but sub communicating the right stuff to a girl by being physical with her. Then attraction happens.

Why Demonstrate Something You Already Have Inside

What we have is so unique. Why overdo it with inane stories about yourself.

Well, males have a tendency to look for solutions outside. This tendency goes back to caveman days where the environment was supposed to supply food and shelter and males were supposed to go out and fix problems.

Males rarely look inside for cause of problems. They always scout the environment. Females go the opposite way. That’s why females are not victim thinkers as much as males. Women usually think that if there is a problem in the environment is their fault not anybody’s. That’s why women are more prone to depression than men.

In This Game

Male victim thinking makes guys go outside to look for value as opposed to find it inside themselves. They think something else or somebody else is the problem. The solution is never inside themselves but in the environment.

That’s why they always think they need something other than what they already have like an opener, a technique, state, etc. these are all things that they figure are outside themselves. They rarely introspect and think that they can open with anything about themselves-I love bananas!-, or draw state from inside rather than from girls’ reactions-environment has solutions for problems-. What happens when the environment fails to give them solutions for their inner scarcity? They crumble and fall. They become victims. They drop state because the environment fails to give positive feedback for their state to maintain. Solution is not in the environment but inside. That’s why it is so hard for guys to be outcomeless. We are always looking outside. We are agents of doing.

Say Something Boring

Bored

When I notice guys are trying to impress people I attack it head on program. I instruct to say something boring about themselves and then survive it. My student must approach and say “Hi, I wake up in the morning, brush my teeth, go to office, and check my mail. I rarely have any breakfast...” and so on.

After this exercise and getting a couple of girls attracted with this lame stuff they learn their lesson: people don’t expect as much from them as they thought first.
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#1

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Really interesting. So much material out there has us thinking that we have to capture the girls attention - and because beautiful women are approached by 1000 guys a month or whatever, we have to be extremely interesting and what we say must be grade A material. 

But I guess by thinking that we need unique, top of the line shit to say, we are putting her up on a pedestal. 

I have a question though. When you are talking about how guys get girls with lame stuff like 'I brush my teeth' are you saying that to demonstrate the old point that the words are only 7% of communication? And that its the body language and voice tone that are getting the girls? Or are you saying that by talking about whatever they have in their mind, like bananas, the underlying communication is that they aren't trying to impress and are indifferent to whether or not the girl likes what they are saying, so she ends up liking them. 
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Brilliant!

Still learning from you...
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On bootcamp,  Ozzie told me to say something embarassing about myself whenever there was a gap in the conversation. So even though it was very hard, I would tell them that I have hairy nipples. I must have told 50+ girls that I have hairy nipples so far.
           It's only now that I realise how powerful this technique is, because after saying something like that, you have no urge to impress them.
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Hahah, this brings back memories. I remember me and Brooksie were up in Newcastle right after my BC, and we were pissed off because you kept saying, 'Just open with I am Ozzie, I am from Barcelona'. You know...Barcelona is a cool place, that must be what was getting the attraction we figured.

So we went around that night opening with 'Hi I'm Brooksie, from Fulham' and 'Hi I'm Ian from Newcastle' (...in Newcastle...) - and it went fucking incredible. Those were funny times.
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This is good stuff.
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I love this.
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Great post


Cheers
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So on point. So the trick is to intentionally say something boring or silly. When you say it knowingly, it subcommunicates you don't care and the more retarded it sounds to YOU the more self amused you become. But where do you draw the line and internally believe that saying "I brush my teeth in the morning" isn't just being said because you are seeking a reaction and is instead being said because you REALLY don't give a shit?
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shawnader wrote:
So the trick is to intentionally say something boring or silly. When you say it knowingly, it subcommunicates you don't care and the more retarded it sounds to YOU the more self amused you become. But where do you draw the line and internally believe that saying "I brush my teeth in the morning" isn't just being said because you are seeking a reaction and is instead being said because you REALLY don't give a shit?
Thinking too much, bro.
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i think you can say anything. just explain it if they don't get it.
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Expression not impression explained.
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Straight to the point! Say anything you want and feel confident doing it, accompanied with good body language :)
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Great Post Ozzie ;)
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shawnader wrote:
So on point. So the trick is to intentionally say something boring or silly. When you say it knowingly, it subcommunicates you don't care and the more retarded it sounds to YOU the more self amused you become. But where do you draw the line and internally believe that saying "I brush my teeth in the morning" isn't just being said because you are seeking a reaction and is instead being said because you REALLY don't give a shit?
Hey man... For you to find this answer you have to picture yourself in a bootcamp. Remember, saying stupid stuff is not the end in itself, it is a way that the instructor is trying to hammer something into your head. It's the epiphany that you get after doing this that really counts... You will not open sets, all your life saying boring stuff. C'mon!
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I love this post Ozzie.  All of this definitely rings true to my experiences.  The whole concept of "DHV" is pretty fucked.  If you think you have to DHV then you are auto-assuming that the girl sees you as a low-value man to begin with, which is a fucked place to put yourself.  If you think you have to DHV you are essentially setting a frame on yourself that you DO come in with low value which is BOGUS!
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Getupa wrote:

shawnader wrote:
So on point. So the trick is to intentionally say something boring or silly. When you say it knowingly, it subcommunicates you don't care and the more retarded it sounds to YOU the more self amused you become. But where do you draw the line and internally believe that saying "I brush my teeth in the morning" isn't just being said because you are seeking a reaction and is instead being said because you REALLY don't give a shit?
Hey man... For you to find this answer you have to picture yourself in a bootcamp.
So essentially you are saying fake it 'til you make it? I want to be clear that I'm purely coming from a place of trying to understand this concept and not putting anyone down. That being said, you say that I should picture myself in a bootcamp. But its clear that the boot camps temporarily take people out of the chode reality they know and into the instructor's reality who is "giving them permission" to behave in ways that pump their state. What I'm trying to figure out is how does one go back home and weekend after weekdend consistently use these gambits and successfully pull without an instructror breathing down their neck? I mean, is it just a matter of using these things like training wheels until you get an "epiphany" so that you dont need them anymore? Or is it a matter of getting your life together and actually being happy with who you are and therefore confident in your words and body language? Or both? Thnx.
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Love the picture of the bored baby.

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omg tyler posted in this thread so it's now awesome!

but seriously, pickup is starting to seem more and more like simple chit-chat, than a sort of "impression exercise" but damn was this tough to understand

I have an INFP personality type (introverted, intuitive, feeling, perceiving) but a lot of times I've felt forced to "wear an ESTJ business suit" (ESTJ=extroverted, sensing, thinking, judging, aka male stereotype personality)

I understand that there is absolutely no need to pretend, but it took me almost a year to get to this stage

maybe RSD should have "normality lessons" as a product, I bet it would be a killer and it would have guys wondering "what? I can be normal and pick up chicks? wow what a concept"
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Awesome stuff.

this is the type of stuff i use the internet for ;D
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Trust In Self wrote:
omg tyler posted in this thread so it's now awesome!

but seriously, pickup is starting to seem more and more like simple chit-chat, than a sort of "impression exercise" but damn was this tough to understand

I have an INFP personality type (introverted, intuitive, feeling, perceiving) but a lot of times I've felt forced to "wear an ESTJ business suit" (ESTJ=extroverted, sensing, thinking, judging, aka male stereotype personality)

I understand that there is absolutely no need to pretend, but it took me almost a year to get to this stage

maybe RSD should have "normality lessons" as a product, I bet it would be a killer and it would have guys wondering "what? I can be normal and pick up chicks? wow what a concept"
Dude, me and a friend concluded this same stuff.  The PUAAAA community tries to put guys into a ESTJ machine, where you start out on one side as whoever you really are, and you come out on the other side as an ESTJ.  It's kinda fucked when you think about it, but I think RSD is moving toward the "be your best self" angle, even though it still glorifies extraversion in the extreme and paints introversion as a horrible disease rather than a neutral temperament.  I can see what they are trying to do though.  A lot of guys are so introverted, they need to be pushed in the complete opposite direction and see extraversion = good, introversion = bad -- for one that's easier for most people to understand and digest on a mass level, and for two, it creates a clear goal to work toward.

It's entirely possible to be an introvert and attract chicks.  The important thing to understand is that introversion is NOT all the negative qualities people often associate with it -- such as being withdrawn and self conscious, weirdly quiet all the time, serious, etc.  Introversion is simply an ascription of how a person sees the world.  No more no less.  It does not entail being misanthropic or self-hating or anything like that.  I am an INTP and I'm very friendly, talk to new people, empathize strongly with others and have high self esteem.  The propaganda spewed about how introversion is the plague is absolute garbage and I think it indirectly fucks a lot of introverts up because they start hating themselves for who they are, and not accepting that they like to play videogames sometimes, or read a book and that they CAN do these things and still be attractive to chicks.  You don't need to become an ace fighter pilot who climbs mountains in his spare time.  Sure, do it if that's what you want, but if you're doing that shit just to get chicks you are a giant fool.
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golden!
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shawnader wrote:
So on point. So the trick is to intentionally say something boring or silly. When you say it knowingly, it subcommunicates you don't care and the more retarded it sounds to YOU the more self amused you become. But where do you draw the line and internally believe that saying "I brush my teeth in the morning" isn't just being said because you are seeking a reaction and is instead being said because you REALLY don't give a shit?
No.  No.  Nooooooooo!  You COMPLETELY missed the point of his post.  This ISN'T a TECHNIQUE.  You don't "knowingly" say boring shit to "subcommunicate you don't care" and impress her.  NO!  Knock over your chess board right now!  I'm blowing up your battleship, the game is over.  This is about being GENUINE and IN THE MOMENT.

Ozzie is saying you REALLY CAN say BORING SHIT that comes to your mind (eg not a premeditated technique) and STILL attract girls.  Guys think they have to be phenominally interesting and they don't.  That's why he gave that Tom Cruise example.  You need not have the stories and experiences of a rockstar or celebrity just to get laid.  You don't have to sit there and tapdance in front of her like Fred Astaire for her to like you.  You REALLY CAN say boring shit and if you are a cool genuine guy who's in the moment, she'll still be attracted regardless.  "I brush my teeth in the morning" is just an example of a common thing to say that sounds boring.  Tyler talked about how he once had a conversation about his taxes and it didn't affect the attraction levels of the girl in a negative way.  They aren't saying necessarily that you should TRY to bore the girl, but that if you DO and you're still cool and in the moment, it doesn't matter.  Would YOU care if a hot girl came over and started talking about how she couldn't find her shoes this morning?  Would you say "AGH!  She's BORING GO AWAY!"  No, if you think she's hot and positive and friendly and not weird, you'd stick around.  Same with girls.  "What" you say matters very little.  It's what you're communicating about yourself.  Re-read Ozzie's post with all of the above in mind.
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"What happens when the environment fails to give them solutions for their inner scarcity? They crumble and fall. They become victims. They drop state because the environment fails to give positive feedback for their state to maintain. Solution is not in the environment but inside. That’s why it is so hard for guys to be outcomeless. We are always looking outside. We are agents of doing."


Sweeeet post, this is the kinda stuff everyone wants to read to encourage state.
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Over the last 6-9 months I have become  a little disenchanted with 'classic game' and routines etc. They can be great for moving things along but I'm starting to realize that 'going chode' (which is, in a way, what Ozzie describes) works because of this:

1. Women like men who make an effort. I don't mean try-hard. I mean an effort to APPLY themselves to life, and social interactions. So just being happy and yourself and getting out there is all that is required. Easier said than done, though :-) At the end of the day, men and women have been pro-creating and vibing together for millions of years, way before lines and routines came along!

2. Any man who is physically 'normal'/how nature intended (that is not overweight and generally healthy and glowing etc) WILL ATTRACT WOMEN. Its just that most men DON'T REALIZE IT and don't pick up on the subtle cues and vibes when women have the beginnings of attraction for them, which mean the men don't in turn, react to these vibes and amplify the attraction.

So in summary I'm starting to realize that 'natural' pickup is just being positive, expressive, healthy, and with confident body language + being able to read HER signals and reacting to them in kind - that is by just being naturally fun and affectionate/physically playful etc. with any *expectations* of her. Just living in the moment and enjoying her company for what it is.

After that, things just start happen, if you're into her and physically confident a good match for each other.

God that sounds so *Chode* LOL 
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I want to take a boot camp with every instructor to get thier unique opinion on things to help me be the best I can be!!! 
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Great post. I often find myself overestimating the content of what I'm going to say... 
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Your book will be nice to read through, I always loved your mindsets.
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all hail oz
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Fantastic.

I clicked on your post because it really resonates with what I`m doing these days.

I basically just show up, make a direct statement either from the start or later on and then just see what happens:)
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you are a unique never to be repeated super dork   hahahahahaaa solid gold
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The reason why being normal works is because this IS unique... no one is like this, EVERYONE is trying to impress. It's in motivation however... if you try to be normal, because it IS unique, you will STILL be trying to impress. You must reliqish being special completely! You must SEE that ending the trying IS better... it brings rest to your mind and is better than any feeling. You will however never be able to claim the prize of being superior to others... which is what most still want. For if you do... next time, you will try to impress again and it won't work.

Sorry for giving advice... simply and insight I've had after taking my bootcamp with Ozzie.
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dhv happens naturally when you have instrinsic value.  Intrinsic value is much more valueable.
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I have two different size feet. I like swiss cheese but i feel I get gyped because of the holes in the middle.
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Isn't women more likely to go into a depression than men? On the other hand, women might tend to shut off the value seeking from the enviroment and fish for value in their own isolated pond, where they slowly run down the spiral of depression.
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