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Section9®

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Join Date: 01/15/2009 | Posts: 63

Here begins my journal of field reports in New Orleans (1/18/2009).
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1/18/2009
Tonight started off meeting up with a friend that I thought seemed pretty cool. He makes me a mojito, promising it is the best thing I ever drank but ends up putting too much rum into it. Result - I end up getting buzzed when I intended to go sober. Oh well....

First we try Tipitina's, which apparently is a really good place to go. Unfortunately, the cover charge is $20!!. Fuck that - I say no and we end up going to Red Eye, a bar I have also never been to that is right next to a major dance club, Republic. So it ends up being the spillover of drunk people from Republic, theoretically a good thing!

Enter Red Eye and large AA hits hard. My friend professed before he has a lot of experience, which is not hard to believe since he was in a frat in a major university in New Jersey. OK - but he ends up standing around a lot.

Regardless, I should be talking to some of these cute girls. But instantly these like, mental movies start playing in my mind - "Oh, you're gonna come off creepy, tryhard" aka desperate to get laid/seeking attention. This serves as an excellent mindfuck. Meanwhile, my friend is gripping a beer near the bar, not moving save to go to the bathroom.

I recognize this is out of usual form and I go outside and call plato for a quick pick-me-up. Sadly, he suggests things I have already done already. Thats the fucked up part, I do all the things that are supposed to help me get "in state" but I still cannot bring myself to strike open girls. ahhh fuck it.

Go back inside with a slightly better mental mindframe. However, the smile has vanished from my face and is replaced with a look of anger/determination. I go back to the bar area and one girl says "hey what's wrong man?" Ignore, obviously she is drunk as hell.

So up to this point my friend or I still have not cold-approached. So I decide to play a little game, one that has worked for me before and is really fun to AA. We play rock-paper-scissors, loser has to do what the winner says.

I win the first round and send my friend to 2 girls at the bar, he hooks and they talk for like 15+ min! I go in and try to wing and play up my friend every once in a while, trying to make sure she is on board. After a bit more I try to get her to give him his number and I'm doing a great job, only she keeps claiming she has a boyfriend (in a nice way) and even my friend starts saying "dude, let her go, she has a boyfriend". uhhhh if you say so, just trying to push the interaction to the max. he sabotages himself though.

Anyway, the previous exercise is finally enough to help lower AA. I go up to HB9 and stop her while she is walking, shake her hand and talk into her ear - Hi, my name is Karthik, I thought you were cute. She says thanks, smiles, and looks back for a second. Next second, walks away into the crowd! gaaahn.

Next, I go up to a relative fatty at the bar with, Hi my name is Karthik. Apparently a fat chode that is standing around is her fiancee. I congratulate the two and thats relatively it.

I meet an old college friend and a drunk girl tries very hard to talk to me. Ignore, because she is drunk as hell. College friend and I catch up and then part ways.

What happened next was even worse, I had to endure a lecture from my friend on what to do and what not to do. He says I come off "too much like a jerk" with the opening, I thought that was breaking tonality??? Also criticizes the fact that I wanted to talk to every girl there. Fact remains though, he hooked 2 girls into conversation where I didn't....what angers me the most is that I wanted to prove what I was doing was correct, but didn't have any results to show it.

Things to take away from this report
  • AA can pop up randomly - best way to combat is to stay in venue until the fury overtakes you
  • Do not drink even 1 drink - yes, you will care less about what others think BUT you will come off like all you have is drunken confidence
  • Conserve voice and at the same time, escalate kino by getting close to and her and talking into her ear
  • AA is a fucking when it rears its ugly head. The only way to the hydra is to outlast it.

I will be going out 2 times a weekend every weekend from this point on. 33 days until planned New Orleans bootcamp (and 33 days to nail this AA to the wall!!).
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Unforeseen update! I went out on an uncharacteristic Monday just to see what happy hour is like, since I've turned 21.

We go to Balcony Bar and the place is more or less super quiet and chill. Cool, this is definitely a refreshing change in atmosphere.

There are only a few people here, 2 girls in the corner by themselves that are kind of cute and a lot of other assorted folks.

AA is suddenly popping up again! it is strange, I thought I had control over it before. Well, field smashes your ego and brings you into congruence with your real self. You might think this is a humbling and bad experience, but it is actually liberating.

So I wanted to improve at least something from last night. End up talking to random people, and to the bartender , goofing off and talking about random stuff. What do you call the fat that hangs from the arm of a fat chick?

Still could not approach the seated girls. But I understand the importance of properly warming up so you can perform the way you are supposed to. In this case, it is social warming up.

Going out tonight was a fun change, but way slow. Definitely going to add after-work time to the cycle, I think Thursday nights would be much better since it is also a popular time to go out for Tulane.

Thursday, Friday, Saturday...YEP! ascent to elite congruence is inevitable.
Looking eagerly forward to Thursday.

Lessons learned

  • Field cures all. You will not believe it if you don't go out, but it is infintely better than staying at home and rationalizing.
  • Warm up socially! Give value to old and young, attractive and ugly, male and female. Set up the snowball so that girls will inevitably be part of your night
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Pre-bootcamp postings, for comparision: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/98714
Bootcamp and post-bootcamp! http://www.rsdnation.com/node/107276


Pook. "As you think, you shall become...."
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Can you verbalize why you didn't approach? When I was getting over AA it helped to have another venue lined up in my head so I would always have an out in the event of my apocalyptic scenario playing out. Of course this never happened but it helped.
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Can't wait to see how far you take yourself. It'll be especially interesting to see where the bootcamp brings you.

I think its important to never compare yourself to others (like your friend). Interact with people and have a good time (always leading interactions towards the close, if thats why you're there), then at the end of the night when all is said and done think about what you could have done better and do your best to fix those mistakes on your next night out. Think about pickup just before your night starts, and then again after its over.
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The worst possible thing you can do is think about pickup while you're actually picking up. When I do this I get pushed deeper and deeper into my head. I see my situation as 'picking up' so I beat myself up when an interaction doesn't validate my this. It really kills interactions.
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Thanks for the replies mates, much appreciated.
RodB wrote:
Can you verbalize why you didn't approach? When I was getting over AA it helped to have another venue lined up in my head so I would always have an out in the event of my apocalyptic scenario playing out. Of course this never happened but it helped.
This is something I haven't thought of before, interesting idea! Because I have a habit for getting lost in this city, I usually try to "plant" myself in a general vicinity (usually 1-2 venues or such). Maybe I should try fully believing that other venues are options next time?

It is interesting that you mention the apocalyptic scenario. For me, a good majority of my approaches in the past have gone over well. None were ever the kind of a hostile counterattack or something like that....in fact it is usually just me ejecting too early.

To verbalize why I couldn't bring myself to approach? - When I first starting learning this stuff, I didn't have any problem approaching because my only goal was to approach, nothing more (usually ended up in approach + eject). Then when the approaches started hitting more consistently, I started thinking of what to do after that. Now, I don't approach because I try to imagine what is going to happen next (after the approach) and I cannot think of anything to get into a good conversation. So I end up convincing myself not to approach because I have no idea how to take it forward consistently after that.
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DatingMoron wrote:
Can't wait to see how far you take yourself. It'll be especially interesting to see where the bootcamp brings you.

I think its important to never compare yourself to others (like your friend). Interact with people and have a good time (always leading interactions towards the close, if thats why you're there), then at the end of the night when all is said and done think about what you could have done better and do your best to fix those mistakes on your next night out. Think about pickup just before your night starts, and then again after its over.
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The worst possible thing you can do is think about pickup while you're actually picking up. When I do this I get pushed deeper and deeper into my head. I see my situation as 'picking up' so I beat myself up when an interaction doesn't validate my this. It really kills interactions.
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You are right DatingMoron. I no longer think of myself in relation to others anymore. Bootcamp is going be so damn exciting!

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On to what happened this weekend
Note: Thursdays are not such a good day to go out anymore. I am shooting for Wednesdays now...more on this later.

1/23/2009
Tonight the venue was the last point in a bar tour, Bulldog. True to what I imagined, the places was packed with people spilling into the street.

I get there and get out of my car and immediately some girls yell "Hey nice car". Righto, I hate that kind of line. I walk by and one says "Hey I really like your car". I look her in the eye, smile and say "Thanks". Keep walking and she yells "HEY" again but whatever.

I meet up with a friend and get inside to get a tonic and line (it is a really good drink). Some girl says 'HI" at the bar and thats cool, fluff a bit and apparently its her birthday, which means high fives and hugs around. Cool, but stupidly let it go because some dude had his arm around her and I immediately assumed it was a boyfriend. I am still very uneager to initiate "AMOG wars".

So as AA tries to return again, I decide the goal tonight is to get in a conversation (more than just a couple of seconds, must have at least some depth) with random girls - like I wrote above, this is one place where I still feel unsure. about.

This is accomplished pretty easily by opening the girls my friend apparently knew. Later 2 more girls join and I can hold convo with them too...cool, I wish I found a way to get into (good) conversation off the opener with a good success rate. Or maybe, these kind of things just sorta "happen" as long as you don't blow yourself out - can't really plan for them or have a "strategy" to go into. Something within me tells me it is the latter.

Overall a productive night because I accomplished the conversation goal for the first time ever. I did not push for closes in these because I simply wasn't attracted.

1/24/2009
Tonight is a special night because I am doing something new : Going out completely solo. Nerves aren't a problem, its the problem of haven't been able to get girls to hook me yet, so I would get bored.

The venue is the Boot, which is very close to Tulane and apparently a date auction is going on tonight.
OK, so the goal tonight is to go out and hang around for a decent amount of time, completely solo and stay in a good state.

Goal accomplished. Fun things to do to keep yourself entertained - walk backwards through people (also a fantastic way to move through a crowd). Directionally deny people with the corporate elbow (dangerous though, might get you into a fight). Both of these were fun tonight. And as usual, girls who kept bumping into me and saying "Sorry", "Excuse me", etc. The cool thing about the Boot is that there is much higher chance of lots of cute girls in this bar.

- It is now proven that I can keep a good mood just staying completely solo.
- Follow your inner core mind (that first "instinct" kind of feeling). Guaranteed to stay state with that.

Bootcamp is less than a month away! Just enough time to begin smashing away at old sticking points.

Cheers!
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Pre-bootcamp postings, for comparision: http://www.rsdnation.com/node/98714
Bootcamp and post-bootcamp! http://www.rsdnation.com/node/107276


Pook. "As you think, you shall become...."
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