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October 16th, 2017
MMA Facts 101: Self Improvement
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#21
Loren

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Good post M8,

I wrestle and take BJJ - and have done so for almost a decade (used to be competitive). I've taken out guys who weighed twice as much as me, twice as strong, and even outnumbered. (but of course everyone can scrap and get laid.)

What really helps is that it gives me the confidence to know if something does go down, I will know what to do. Sure if a guy has a knife or gun I'm going to back down. It would be stupid not to. Sure if it's 3 on 1 I'm going to back down as well. No fighting style is going to protect against that. But there are techniques like attack one or two to make room and run the fuck out of there.

Most problems with fights is that people aren't ready and willing or are scared. But if you have some knowledge it's a huge advantage especially in stupid drunk brawls and shit. In a bar if you aren't heavy and deep with people and even if you are it's all hit and run situations.

I've gone to a bar where I'm very close friends with the bouncers went to school with them. They had my back and even then I got the fuck out of there. One never knows who is running with. It's always better to have some good knowledge than none at all.

And again it isn't the knowledge it's the trainning over and over and over again. A fist is thrown do this. If this is done do this. I would say 90% of the fights I've been in at bars was over in matter of seconds rather than several minutes like a real match.
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Loren

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Stefan Wrote:
[="Comic Sans MS"]and yet they are so common (being out numbered or having a weapon thrown in the mix)... you get the picture yet champ? martial arts for self defense application is close to useless. If you really feel the need to defend yourself then buy a mini-can of mace on my key chain and thats all the "can of whoop-ass" youll ever need IMO.

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Lol. This is true. Just got to remember to carry that shit always. There is even a PUA here on this forum that carries it with him always. But he also lives in the bronx. coming home at 4am aint pretty there.
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#23
Climax

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Bros if I had this mindset i'd never go out of my house... EVER
even if you know how to break the spine of someone between your thumb and your pinky remember that going out is about having fun and sharing value.

If you step into a dickhead, as Stefan said, walk away. Not because in the back of your mind you think he'll stab your eye with a teaspoon and pour a jar of lime in your brain as his 50 friends stabs you to death with chopsticks if you confront him, but just because there's no fucking point in buying into negative mindsets.
Holding a positive frame in front of someone will save the day for BOTH of you in almost every situation.

Having said that Martial Arts are one of the best thing you can get into in order to become a better person but it's ultra important that you choose your school for it's vibe and not who's ass you will woop with it.

This is like back in the day when everyone was arguing about the best pickup method when in fact the only one you need is which one feels congruent with yourself.

I've personnaly done Capoeira in Paris for a while before starting my new life in Sydney a few month ago, and absolutely loved it.
And believe me, unless you've practiced Capoeira for 10 years it's really useless in street fights.

The question is : who fucking cares ?

Just do what feels right motherfuckers

No to put others down, but to put yourself up

nuff said
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#24

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NOTHING in this thread helped me. I want to know mma facts that can help me in a fight, or help my training, or help me stay motivated. If there were MMA training places near me then maybe this would be useful.
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Really why are these topics even cropping up. Martial art is a HOBBY. It's like pottery or miniature boat building, the friggan name of it has ART in the word! You'll kick about as much ass on the street with BJJ as someone else would with airplane glue. In fact, I think the airplane glue would win versus any fighting style. Cause goddamn that shit is toxic.

Reference Tamer for more reasoning.
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Most of them just look like silly retards having a fun time -- which strangely, is ultimately what girls are attracted to.

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Most of them just look like silly retards having a fun time -- which strangely, is ultimately what girls are attracted to.

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i would honestly kick the shit out of any one of you cunts. in ANY situation. One hand behind my back. i don't give a fuck who you are.
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#28
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Btw started the thread about the stuff before, and have found a good place to do muay thai boxing.

however I still share many of the opinions that have been in this thread. I personally dont know if martial arts is useful or not.

Street smarts is whats important.
Being confident and tough is important.
Being scary and projecting that your willing to fight is important.
Being strong is important.

I honestly have 100% belief in myself when it comes to a fight, like delusional, I dont even think mike tyson could beat me up. I think its just a natural instinct. that you tap into.

Theres a ton of martial arts guys out there that are pussies PUSSIES when it comes to the street. They dont know how to handle themselves their, they just train imaginary scenaries, and live in fantasy world of self defence etc.

Like that thread where the guy said he got headbutted and then a bottle smashed on his head but he trained 8 years in martial arts WTF. That would NEVER happen to me. It just wouldnt.

I am unsure of martial arts having much use but never the less I will attempt to find out.
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#29

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sinan Wrote:
I honestly have 100% belief in myself when it comes to a fight, like delusional, I dont even think mike tyson could beat me up. I think its just a natural instinct. that you tap into.

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I am unsure of martial arts having much use but never the less I will attempt to find out.


have you ever been punched in the face?

have you ever been in a fight (with someone who knew what they were doing)?

have you ever been slammed into the ground, had someone sit on your chest, and pound your face?

prepare to have some beliefs shattered in your first sparring match.
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#30

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sinan Wrote:

I honestly have 100% belief in myself when it comes to a fight, like delusional, I dont even think mike tyson could beat me up. I think its just a natural instinct. that you tap into.


It's weird, I have the COMPLETELY opposite belief. Whenever I think of fights I don't even consider myself winning, I always consciously and sub-consciously consider myself losing badly. So whenever the potential for a fight arises, it just feels like I'd be volunteering to get my head kicked in.

I know logically I could probably do quite well as I've taken jujitsu, MMA and I've had a punch bag since I was 8 so I've learned to throw a punch. But the rest of my body just isn't having any of it.
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