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JD****

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Join Date: 05/06/2008 | Posts: 260

For the next thrty days I will be going out challenging myself. For Glory!

Gentlemen, These are the rules

1. Night Game
a. Five nights a week minimum
b. Must do at least an additional hour a week solo
c. No alcohol while Im out
d. Must open all 10s
e. Try and close every set or burn it to the ground
f. Can’t eject when it starts getting bad
g. Listen to wings as close as possible
h. Help sam as much as possible
i. Always be in set
i. Go into more mixed sets

2. Day Game
a. Must do approaches five days a week
b. Open Direct

3. Follow through with ALL numbers

4. Get fucking laid, cant turn down sex

5. Run/Work out everyday

6. Must spar once a week

7. Eat Healthy

8. Everyday listen to power of now

9. Everyday read one thing in my rsd booklet from bootcamp

10. No analyzing in field

Goals!

1. Always being Present, in the moment, and value giving

2. Build more reference points at making connections and physically escalating

3. Approach Indifference Threshold

4. Always be Closing

ATM im about 1200 approaches in. My first 30 dayer is here, winging mostly with mix, but spend a lot of time with mr smooth and vic sage also

http://www.rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=26544

I figure I’ll mostly be going out with Mix Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday, Sam wed-fri, smooth most nights hes around and vic sage (pending his relationship) Ive also been pming other new wings KevinNJ and Timboogie whom I hope to tear some shit up with.

Anyone else on these forums in the NJ/NYC area is welcome to join me for some debauchery.

And it begins….
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
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JD****

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Thursday

I hadn’t been out in a bar in six weeks. I just finished two finals and had a few days before my last one of the semester. I go to bliss and meet mix. Right now hes in Disney with a girl he met on a street approach shades
5 notable sets.

The first girl was in a set mix opened. I isolated her to the dance floor and tried to makeout but she kept saying she had a boyfriend. I didn’t mind so I kept dancing but eventually left because I didn’t think it would go anywhere and I was more attracted to other chicks.

Next set was a super cute three set I open with “your adorable” and introducing myself to everyone. The whole set opens really well but after about 2 minutes I have trouble hearing them and run out of stuff to say. I stay in and let it burn. Later I reopen the one I went direct on and start dancing with her but friends pull her away. At the end of the night I go in one more time and its still wasn’t going anywhere, but they were cute :D.

The next set mix had me go into I wasn’t too interested in the girl, she just seemed boring and I wasn’t attracted either. But I went in anyway, isolated to the dance floor and tried to make out with several times. She kept trying to ask me interview questions. Eventually I left to find girls I was more interested in.

Next girl I open with some comment about her hair, it just popped in my head. In about thirty seconds I isolate her to the dance floor. We just having legit fun. I was going to escalate but friends pulled her away in only about 5-10 minutes into the interaction

Last awesome set Mix opens a girl on the couch and her friend looks bored. I go in with “I’m tired” to the friend, who is definitely a solid 8+, super cutie, hot body. We talk for a few minutes, shes lighting up because im just talking from my core, she says our schools are close together implying hanging out. She starts to interview question me so I immediately isolate to dance floor but she pulls her friend and mix follows. Were just legit having fun dancing together. Im moving her around. Its on. We do that thing where our forheads are right next together and we kiss. Damn shes a good kisser, I tell her. I keep moving her around. Mix seeds the pull with “my place is five min away, lets smoke pot” theyr down. I wrap my fingers in her pants line but decide not to escalate when it looked like we’d pull. Make out/hang out more, then I run to the bathroom

And their gone!! The place was so packed it was impossible to find anyone, mix said after I left they just went to find friends or something

Friday

Head to abyss so sam could get in for his first approach. Weather sucks so the place is dead. About 8 girls and 30 dudes. Looked like all social circles and a few of the girls were surrounded by hordes of dudes.

I demo for sam and start dancing with one chick, I open with some stupid indirect thing, it was kinda slow but I knew I had to go first to set the pace.
Its time for his first approach ever!(Kodak moment) I give him the word and he goes right in like a man. He does pretty well and just watch till I see their interaction slowing down.

We walk around but theres like nothing. I open a mixed two set but their going out. For the first time ever I could see all the girls looking at me. They were bored and wanted to be approached. All that was going on was I was extremely comfortable socially in the venue.

We decide to burn his first set to the ground so he goes back in. A friend is getting bored and shes really cute so I go in direct say shes a cutie and ask her name. I try and dance but shes says im fucking hot but her boyfriend is at the bar and going to get really mad. I tell her its cool and we vibe a bit.
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
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Tuesday 12/23

Day

Just finished up with finals, I go to the mall with Sam, my sleep schedule is still way fucked up. Hes just beginning to have loads of epiphanies shades

I open some people to get talkative but I only hit one real set angry

She was a chick in spencers. I just started fucking around with the props they have and we started talking. I left because I was running out of stuff to stay, but I went back in, but then I got a call from Timboogie. A nice little takeaway, but during the day takeaways around really that effective.

So basically my daygame needs plenty of work. Its fine though, that’s what im here for.

Night
Meet up with mr smooth and vic sage. It was awesome to see them because they are both really good friends and I haven’t gotten to see them in months because ive been in school and smooth’s been in LA.

We get a little lost looking for deko lounge, some dude from the hills is there so we figured thered b loads of hot 18 yo’s shadesshades

25-30 $ cover, fuck that

Find some other club/bar place. Being a Tuesday it was slow.

One word from smooth and I do our first(and pretty much final) approach. It was like a 7-set of all girls. I open direct on the cutest one say shes adorable and ask her name. I try and dance with her, Im dancing terribly for some reason but ignor that its sucking.

I meet the rest of the group but the place is so loud I cant hear a thing. I run out of stuff to say and let it fizzle out. Smooth stays in set and I get to see him work. I can see hes improved too. We all mingle but nothing big, there are very few people there who aren’t in hardcore bubbles already, it was past midnight. We decide to find some place in new brunswhick so smooth and me burn our set out and we head to NB.

Everythings slow because its Tuesday. We all head out.

It was great to see you guys! We need to find a new Tuesday spot. Word is pub 46 is pretty good.
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
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JD****

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Mix Wrote:
Its decent for numbers but not pulls. GO TO OLD QUEENS!!!


Your right bro,
I think im reaching a point were Im opening really well and ready to bring my game home and approach there. Too bad no ones there till school starts. But when that happens, im ready to do it.:D

<3 college
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
-Rocky

Hit me up if you are NJ, Glory Awaits
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JD****

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Damn I need to get my sleep schedule straight, FAST. Its conflicting with time to work out and time to do day game AND arriving on time to clubs. Today(Friday) I woke up at 8am when I went to bed at 6am. I’m tired as hell and cant seem to sleep….so ill write this up now in the am

Thursday-Xmas day

Slept till 3pm then took a 3 hour nap at 7pm because I was so tired. Woke up and headed out to Katmandu. Didn’t get there till midnight. I need to CUT THE SHIT AND ARRIVE EARLY SO I CAN WARM UP!!! I should arrive at ten.

Even though it was xmas it was packed. I’m not really attracted to many black woman and that’s really all that was in the venue. It would take time to find a girl I genuinely wanted to meet, but I still tried to mingle with everyone.

When I first got in I found vic sage and mr smooth. They introduced me to midtown. Smooth and I went off to do some approaches while the other guys were talking. Smooth does his approach and I open direct on a dancing 3 set and get blown out on the opener, I cant remember the last time that happened!

I immediately turn around and open the next good set I see and same thing. Weird enough, I didn’t care at all! Which is awesome, the blow outs had zero effect on my state.

I need to open more physical on the dancefloor. Always be more physical!

I’m so confused because I haven’t been in the field for six weeks and I came back indifferent to 90% of blow outs/AA I used to have. Its amazing! AA only happens now with large mixed groups. Sometimes I have a little bit of hesitation but only at first glance than I go right in.

The nights slow, I don’t see any girls I like so I just try and mingle/be friendly.
Midtown throws me into another 3 set and Im still not warmed up from the lack of girlies I was interested in but it goes well. Mini isolation on the dance floor but friends pull away but I hold a playful frame and its fine. I could have gone for a makeout probably, but didn’t.

I think the night was so slow because all three of us had intent issues because we weren’t attracted to the girls. Both Smooth and I left the place saying, “I don’t know what I was doing differently, but it wasn’t going as well tonight.”

Note: Find more target rich venues

Tonight will be another adventure shades
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
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JD****

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So where have I been?

Ive actually been pretty sick--so much so that I havent left my house in 3.5 days. Not at all the way a 30 day challenge should go.

I finally got out tonight.

Tuesday

I wake up from a nap to the annoying sound of my alarm clock at 9:30 pm. I'm still half asleep, i blow the snot out of my nose. I'm still half sick.

Fuck I told Kevin I'd meet him at the bar at 10:00 PM.

In a daze I text him and reset my alarm another hour.

I wake up at 10:30 and rush to get ready--I havent shaved in four days, I still have sleep hair. I throw on a hoodie and go. Like they say , Just GO.

I want to go out EVERY NIGHT, and I didnt for THREE nights becuse I was sick, this is BS.

I arrive at the bar and see some kid I graduated with, cool. I go up and talk to him. "Everyone we graduated with is here." He tells me.

I was fairly chode in highschool, definetly a value taker. I was very self conscious. When I left highschool I didnt really want to see a lot of those kids again. I didn't want to be the way I was around them back then. Not all of them were bad, but I always become a chode around the popular-type kids. But enough of this chode shit.

When I arrived, the bar is filled with about thirty of those kids, none of which I was really friends with. Fahhhk. I hit the bathroom. Surprisingly I actually see one of my muay thai students who unbeknowst to me has his first MMA fight coming up the end of febuary. That was cool.

I walk around and meet Vic Sage then KevinNJ and Robotboner for the first time. Kevin and anthony were very cool guys. Kevin actually went to my highschool and is friends with many of the people there that I used to be very reactive too.

Kevin, anthony, it was great to meet you guys, me mix smooth and vic sage are going out nearly every day in nj and nyc. Id definetly be down to go out with you guys more often.

Now I wasnt like anxious or any of that crap but damn---I was so NOT present I dont every remember being that off in my head. Not nervous but even ron was trying to talk to me to snap me out and it just never happened, I kept blanking out when he was talking.

I only opened once the en tire night and then ejected. Fuck, 1200 approaches and a bootcamp I can do better than that.

But I didnt.

I'm not going to let that happen again. Lesson learned. No reason to keep thinking about it.

Scott I know your reading this, next time were out I give you permission to go bootcamp style on my ass shades

Tommorow well be new years, then everyday again. No more "no ones out because its christmas" or any other kinds of excuses. And I have to arrive at ten pm every night.

Cheers ;)
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

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Kevin. Knows. His. Shit.

I'm sure I'm quoting someone else when I say that, but the emphasis is mine.

But I'll get to specifics about that in a minute. I choded tonight -- I've gotten good at sort of "basking" in the chode, where I'm too lame to approach anybody but I almost own it, like just standing there tall & open, and focusing on my breath, using the experience to feel and deal with this imagined social pressure that tells me I should be talking to chicks.

(BTW hate the word approach, it's just tied up in my head with this image of, like, some creepy little wormy guy hunched over and like asking permission to speak. IDFK why.)

Anyway, a big difference tonight was that in the midst of all this, I uncovered some of the bullshit surrounding my non-approaching streak, and it's some kind of ego-protection thing. Inside my head, I've got this fucking DEEP rooted identity of being a really cool guy, extremely unique and interesting -- so when I get into a position where being blown out is possible, ego's like "ABORT ABORT ABORT!!!" because then I wouldn't still be "cool." PLUS there's this belief that because I'm SO fucking unique and interesting(!), if I do something or say something stupid to some random girl in a bar and/or club, she's GOING to remember, and I'm going to forever be "that creepy guy" in the eyes of her and her friends.

Tim did a fucking FANTASTIC job of obliterating all of this shit for the bootcamp weekend about a year ago, which in turn got me laid, which in turn solidified the identity that I'm a guy who can pull on the FIRST NIGHT. But of course the habits and patterns of the ego built on each other all year until it mutated into the much more grotesque, "I'm a guy who can pull on the FIRST NIGHT...but what if you don't? What THEN, hotshot? At least now you can say you know you COULD, but you can't do that if you try and fail. So FUCK YOU. Go sit down and drink more whiskey."

So after being in my no-approach zone for awhile, I decide to just hang around and watch Kevin do his thing (and of course he was cool with it).

And while watching him, a piece kinda clicked into place tonight in a new way so that I can understand it at a deeper level.

It's like this -- instead of "wingmen" going out into the "field" to "sarge," the Flawless Naturals are more like a group of guys going to hang out at the clubhouse (or the treehouse, I just saw Step-Brothers), only this time there's no "NO GIRLZ ALLOWED!" sign hanging outside. So the guys are in the club, having fun and doing their own thing, and the women are all around them everywhere like toys to play with. And it's not like, "Ooh, here comes a woman I'm gonna toy with her and manipulate her and then fuck her!" kinda shit.

It's more like when you were a kid and there's some toy you REALLY wanted for Christmas or your birthday or something, and you got it and it was just so cool you couldn't put it down for days or weeks, except now there are way too many to choose from. Or when I went to visit my cousin one summer and he had the entire basement of his house converted into a giant theater of operations for his G.I. Joe shit (including that gigantic fucking aircraft carrier monstrosity). It's like, "Oh my God I want to play with all of them, which one do I pick up first?"

So thanks, Kevin. Awesome shit.

--V

PS -- I also wanted to mention after the club closed, I saw one chick hug him and then make that little extra effort to kiss him before she ran off to her friends. Once she was back with them, and they were headed back to their car, they all turned and shouted goodbye to some other asshole who had been trying to game them all night, not in a mocking tone or anything -- the girls were completely sincere and being nice by saying goodbye to the dude. And the dude laughed and said goodbye and flipped them off, "jokingly," as if he wasn't really angry at them for not giving up the pussy. I didn't feel bad for him.

PPS -- Sorry DP, I didn't mean to hijack your thread. =) I think it's hard for me to objectively assess and advise you on your sticking points sometimes because my own shadows and demons, lurking deep below the surface of my mind and affecting everything I say and do, are so similar to yours. It's all ego shit projecting into an imaginary idea of what the future might be IF this happens AND that happens and etc. Let me know if any of what I said about my own bullshit at the top of this post rings true for you too.
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JD****

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Well im drunk ritght now(for the third time in 6 moths!)

In response Robotboner, thanks dude. I've already spoken to kevin and Mix, were hitting bliss tommorow. Its an awesome place, ive been there once and had a great night. Very similar to an in-door seaside. its 18+ so the chick are so fucking hott and so fucking 18. Come it will be loads of dun for all of us.

Kevin, I think a lot of your stuff is spot on/ Im not thinking twice about that night. It was a snapback and its done. All the advice is appreciated bro

Im a lil drunk now so quick review b4 i right up tommorow what happened. Kissed one girl(virgin that doesnt drunk) who i pulled into a bathroom at a previous party to fuck but ended up getting a handjob. Brought a chick to our basment while we walked in on other people hooking up, tried to bang but just made out and groped for awhile, saw some new chick, mingled and got a kiss rejection but it was cool, and had a fuck load of fun....drunk cant rememeber anymore. well write full reprot tomm
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

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Thursday

Wake up still half drunk from new years, I only slept for 4 hours. The previous night I only got fours hours, and the night before the same. My body was going crazy from lack of sleep.

I take 60 mL of Nyquil and Benadryl and finally pass out, waking up still drowsy in time to get ready to meet smooth and mix for a night of glory.

We hit the gansvort (chodesvort). I meet a lot of cool guys Steve, Jason, Dave, Fred, Hero. It was awesome, they were all really great people I know id enjoy winging with in the future.

We start hitting sets a few notable ones.

My first set of the night I open are all seated and im standing, it was good because it was difficult even though it didn’t go anywhere.

I also did my first double claw opener which was awesome! I think someone videotaped the set, it opened great but died down because they both had boyfriends in the venue

I did a lot of choding, I wasn’t in set enough. Smooth threw me into a few mixed sets which was good.

Finally some real glory
Smooth opens a two set at the bar, neither is attractive but I go in to join him. Another girl in their party comes in and its on. Shes in her early thirties, very cute.

Smooth and the girl hes talking to say they are virgins, I claw my girl and say were not virgins, and pull her leg up around me torso and smack her ass. At one point I go to make out, no go.

She finds out im 21, I don’t want to lie about my age, she gets worked up saying she can teach me “loads of stuff,” I don’t react at all. I keep lots of sexual tension with hard eye contact. I show her a muay thai move and lead her outside. I show her more moves and we get in a full embrace. More make out attempts, no go. Some dude interrupts us, he legit didn’t know what was going on so I try and be nice.

This girl keeps saying “Show me what you got” I have no idea what it means, I figured she meant “no don’t just make out with me, turn me on” So I don’t just wall-slam her, I Rhino Charge Her.

A new thing I just made up in which you push her back several steps into a wall, THEN make out. People were like wtf and I finally got some tongue on tongue with this girl, she was good.

*Note: Scott informed me after this I should always rub the va-jaY-jay. Will remember for later this weekend

Then she said “Good, now show me what you’ve really got”

I have no idea what this meant. If anyone can decrypt it that would be amazing, I figure that meant she wanted me to finger her or fuck her.

My mind races….what would jeff do wwjd. Bathroom pull. I go back inside and remerge my chick with smooth and her group. I brb to grab scott, tell him I need a condom and for him to occupy the guy that works in the bathroom. (I know ill remember next time)

If can survive being arrested for terrorism I can survive getting caught pulling to a bahroom.

I really believe I could have fucked her in the bathroom.

When I got back she was gone, and her friend began calling her friend a whore, but in a friendly context.

No pull, but I really think I had it.

She was a med student :D

Thanks to all my wings

Until tommorow!
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Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
-Rocky

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Wednesday
Well I’m typing this up four days later so well see how much I remember.

I was so tired for new years, I had three hours of sleep so when I get to the party I actually nap for an hour. I wake up and fine the place packed. But as usual sticking to the highlights….

Two girls im hooking up with both simultaneously text me “Where are you” and enter the door right behind each other. I say hi to both and pull away from kisses.

Girl #1
She had been clingy previously so I was spending much less time with her. Kissed her once or twice but mostly hung out with girl #2

Girl #2
She looked fucking hot and got me seriously horny. I kissed her a little then pulled her to a couch and clawed and just chilled.

A few weeks ago she text me saying she just wants to be friends because she was seeing someone. I didn’t burn the bridge and was totally cool about it, so I was surprised to see her. I asked her about it and she said forget it so I dropped it.

I brought her down stairs for makeout session. I go for the vag and she says no.

Now I know the difference between no shit test and no-no. This was a no shit test, but I failed. My last gf had an older sister who was raped and the word no drops my state a lot when im going for the vag even if I can tell they like it. It something Im going to have to learn to deal with and figure out because I stopped escalating all together.

We go upstairs for ball drop and make out then I bring her to an area of the building under construction, we walk in on people already hooking up there and I think its hilarious. I calm them down by saying “Im here for the same reason you guys are” but I think that made my girl uncomfortable. Damn.

I bring her to the lower level, its pitch black. We make out on a single chair till I decide to throw her on the ground. Its dusty as fuck and disgusting but
I ignore it. I go for the vag again but she pulls the hand away so I totally fuck up by saying “If you don’t want to do anything else that’s fine”—which isn’t BAD to say but it set a frame in which there was no way she would say YES or that could end in escalation—FAHK

Soon after she randomly says “I should check on my friends,” at first I thought it was her state dropped when she realized she was laying on a dirty construction site-basment, but after rereading this I think this is an obvious case of being blown out for under escalating!

I take her upstairs. Once upstairs my state was noticeably lower and for the first time with this girl I felt I was more reactive, I was like wtf. Fortunately I don’t think I permanently lost that hook up because I was still bringing intent with “what are you doing later tonight” ect.

Girl #3
After girl #2 left im getting pretty drunk. Long story short I see new girl(girl #3), talk to girl3, blow chode out of girl3, try and make out with girl3, and leave when it’s a no go. I only wrote this down to remind myself how not getting a make out is a shit test and when u stay in and don’t lose state it build LOTS of sexual tension—some of my best interactions ever have occurred when I didn’t get makeouts and just didn’t care.

Drunkenly I start texting girl #1 and Girl #2 about meeting up, girl #1 was asleep and txt me in the morning girl #2 text me(once I was too drunk to go over)

Me: (something like) What are you doing! Come back, its fun.
Girl #2: I’m comfy in my bed right now…

I didn’t read that till the next day but I think I shoulda gone over(at least if I was more sober). Idk how it would have turned out but I should have.

Under escalating was the problem of new years.

Friday
Head to 230 fifth with mix and smooth. Smooth runs it bootcamp style on me which I appreciate a lot, thanks bro. He was helping me work on my sticking point of staying in set. All night he was timing me not letting me out and sending me back in numerous times until every set was burnt to the ground, which is good. This 30 day challenege isn’t meant for validation or results, its meant for progress.

At the end of my last 30dayer I actually had really good verbal game, I could motor mouth like whoa and get hooks really well, but after coming back to school it looked retarded so I had to drop it and worked more on passive gaming like sexual tension. Now im having trouble getting back to the plowing I used to be good at.

Every set eventually became akward or a blow out. There were not many sets so phillipe kept sending me back in burning them to the ground. It was good for me.

Also start going crazy with this double clawing opener….it was all I wanted to open with

And some chick kept telling me to leave but I ignored her thread and kept asking her name plowing like a motha fucka, she was a cutie.

Thinks smooth for all the instruction

Hit a diner and met a bunch of the nyc crew again

Saturday
Wake up FOR THE DAY at 9PM….wtf

Immediately drive to scott’s and we get into bliss.

I immediately start double clawing on the opener. Scott says something about us about having to pull tonight so I jump on the next two set with a double claw and open with “Ladies where are we going? Are we all going home together tonight?”

I think this is the apocalypse opner, little did I know the glory I was tampering with.

Mix opens and tries to make out. Somewhere between my double-claw-apocalypse-opening and scott’s make out attempts a bouncer comes and tells us to not talk to girls we don’t know. DEFINATE state drop but scott held frame like a champ.

We question what to do but decide to stay. Mix also invited the girl we both tried to makeout with last time back and I was happy I was pushing him to pull her, hope that was helpful. Lately it has been him helping me since ive been in school.

Much more opening and double claw apocalypse opening later we realized we weren’t having any good sets. Something was off. I suspect it was the feeling of the bouncers watching us. At one point some other dude gave scott some shit about talking to girls too! Fucking CHODES!!

80% of the time I opened and 100% of the time I entered scotts set I double clawed and said some variation of “are we all going back to our place/scotts place?” I must have tried to pull(verbally) at the very least 30 girls. Club scott should have been Hoppin.

In fact i even remember turnign down going into a one set because i couldnt double claw one girl, but maybe....

Lots and lots of blow outs but we pushed through it. We had a good time even tho all that was going on.

I have noticed lately im very rarely approaching when im by myself also, I need to work more on this.

We burnt this venue to the ground, and with very few good sets. We both pushed through a very difficult night and im happy for us, we didn’t leave and we stuck to our own rhythm.

Go back to mix’s place and we watch the tao of steve
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

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JD****

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Join Date: 05/06/2008 | Posts: 260

As I took the last few days off, I have spent time giving very through and deep thought, to my progress, my results, what to work on, and my level in “the process” and where my game will go in the future. I have looked very deep into FR’s from both this and past challenges and come to many interesting insights.

Thus far in my challenge, like the beginning of my first challenge, as fatigue set in and the novelty of constant new adventure and returning-to-the-game swagger ran down, it felt like my success and overall outer game got worse, yet my inner game and indifference has improved. I feel like I am far less effected by social scenarios yet I fail more shit tests simply because I don’t care if I fail them.

I think that is a part of the learning curve. Having done martial arts and taught them for so many years, questioning progress also seems to be a reoccurring phase in the learning process.

But a big question I have is if I’m going to forget all the pick up skillz I’m getting and my inner game will drop again when I return to social circle game for 3 months why bother?(I’ll come back to his) But ultimately the reason is because I enjoy it, and I know through progress, even with breaks, success in anything is inevitable. When training and teaching martial arts I found time away as one of the greatest factors in my inevitable success because it kept me fresh and passionate about the skill.

Now on to the first big part, what has my game been missing that I used to have? Plowing. The last few nights out I really haven’t gotten any hooks, and the first week when I still had the swagger I was hooking on the opener-which isn’t consistent.

Plowing was literally the only way I used to consistently hook. I would literally imagine the girl wasn’t there and just talk. I would think change thread, wide rapport, change thread, verbally lead, story ect. and just blab out everything that came to mind until something stuck then tone it down—exactly how plowing should be done. Eventually I got so good at motor mouthing I was over gaming like WHOA and recall putting a girl into such a spectator mode escalating became impossible(when she was half naked and in my bed) and she was a solid 8. After that I pretty much dropped the plowing and forgot about it. Its time I bring it back and just be aware of when to stop. It’s a great way to segway conversations, show you are unreactive and to get away with things, but it should not be maintained for more than a minute.

Plowing and verbal game was literally the most tight portion of my game finishing the last 30 dayer. All of my most solid pickups involved plowing.
Another cool thing about plowing is its very difficult to fail a congruence test because you are not coming from a place of reaction when you are talking. By plowing you are also staying in set longer (which in the last two weeks has also been a sticking point for me)

The way I plow is pretty much trying to change topics as much as possible.

I think not doing it has been the most hindering factor on my game lately.

What else has been preventing my success, or slowing it down? Efficiency, lately I have been wing dependant, only approaching when my wings are around. I recall not being that way in the past, but it sort of just happened that ive been wing dependant. So tonight I’m going out solo, to get over the “Ill wait to find my wings.”

I think because I have been waiting for my wings I have also been hesitating much more frequently in the clubs and during the day. And just a little bit of hesitation is enough to lose a very good set. For these reasons I want to do some solo gaming at night, to get over that hill. Even if I don’t approach one night alone, so long as im consistently showing up, I know I will eventually get it.

I need to continue to open more mixed sets as well.

This isn’t to say my challenge has not been going well, with my health I haven’t been able to accomplish as much as I wanted but I have been having lots improvement. For one I feel great and generally much more calm in social situations. I have also been much more physical, ive pretty much only been opening with the claw and have done many apocalypse openers. I have been seeing game as fun not as work.

I think an important thing to realize is its all about the girl. Not the club. I haven’t been getting lots of one on one experience with girls because I haven’t been number closing, ive specificly been working on my inner game when I first meet them in the club or bar or whatever. Which is fine for a time, but the one on one time is a whole other dynamic to be enjoyed which

I have done very little with this challenge. Because of that I am going to be integrating more daygame where I always go for the number so I can continue to go for the pull first in the clubs.

As many people know I haven’t been able to daygame because Ive been sleeping through the day, well today I woke up for the day at 3am so now going out at night is at risk and I will be doing more daygame.

Just a few random things I’ve been doing any reader may want to try out. On the second time I see the girl or talk on the phone I’ve been going in with “hey sexy” and ive never thought it would work so well but its been setting a frame they want to live up to of being sexy. Its solid, try it.

Ive also been playing with lots of eye contact. Id had great success using it on one on one situations but never in a club environment. After reading Kevin/anthony’s post on it I feel like my use of eye contact is only scratching the surface. I’m going to play with it a lot more.

The last thing on my mind is where am I in the process? Ive been told the next level is becoming an approach machine. I’m still not there yet. In fact my current goals are set to help get me there (going out solo ect.) Ultimately so long as I stick with it I know I will eventually make it. I just hope I can continue to improve with school in my way over the coming 3 months.
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Summer 09 Journal

Second 30-day Challenge!

Post BC Thirty Day Challenge Thread. Wings; Mix, Mr Smooth, and Vic Sage

But it ain't about how hard you hit, it is about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward
-Rocky

Hit me up if you are NJ, Glory Awaits
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