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Excellent expansion of that other post you made earlier.
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I used to give a Fuck. Now i give a fuck less.
But I was told my rockport boots were the magic pill!
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Dion, this is probably the best post I have ever read on RSDNation. Mad props.
Mods, sticky this shit.
-Caligula
Mods, sticky this shit.
-Caligula
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Great mindset to have.
Great mindset to have.
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Knowledge does not produce action. Action produces knowledge.
Don't try to make me piss my pants by waving pistols. You think i'm afraid of death or non-existence. Well surprise bitch. Before i was born i didn't exist. And to tell you the truth. I don't feel or remember shit.
Don't try to make me piss my pants by waving pistols. You think i'm afraid of death or non-existence. Well surprise bitch. Before i was born i didn't exist. And to tell you the truth. I don't feel or remember shit.
Attraction is not to be created in this ship that is called courtship.
It is the wheel on the ship that has always been there that most were blind too see. Game is your ability to grab that wheel that is attraction and use it to steer the ship of seduction in the direction we want through the storms and icebergs that can make you arrive or sink in the procces.
The power does is not in having a wheel but in your ability to steer it through the obstacles on your path.
It is the wheel on the ship that has always been there that most were blind too see. Game is your ability to grab that wheel that is attraction and use it to steer the ship of seduction in the direction we want through the storms and icebergs that can make you arrive or sink in the procces.
The power does is not in having a wheel but in your ability to steer it through the obstacles on your path.
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Cool post, although being attractive is important. Guys should develop their personalities and become attractive.
What i guess i am trying to say is that guy's should stop tripping so much about creating attraction cause it is very easy if not it has been always there to a certain degree. Since boys and girls are ment to like each other when it comes to sex. But creating attraction is done very easy and fast. The important thing is to know that you have attraction very quik and to focus on vibing and just kick it with the girl. This is why guys overgame so much and blow it. Because they can't accept that attraction is there and they feel it has to be this amazing stunt they need to pull off before getting her attracted. It is not so. I am even going as far as to say the moment you open your moment you either have attraction or not. Then again you DO have it because you are a man. You can ofcourse amplify it but not neccesary perse. You need to focus more on vibing and building a connection.
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I like the message, and the overall intention of your post, Dion. "Assume attraction, girls want boys". I don't agree with the logic, but I agree with the mindset, and that's really all that matters.
I also agree with your other points.. Really lengthy explanations of already known community principles.. but I like the way you have come to your own unique understanding of them, and I love the passion in your explanations. This isn't a knock on you saying "this stuff is already been preached".. quite the opposite.
I've found myself doing the same thing at times.. coming up with new epiphanies only to discover that there is already a term for them. It doesn't mean your epiphanies are any less brilliant. Just shows that you're on the right track.
The ones I saw you mention (besides "assume attraction") :
- "The game is played in comfort"
- "Social Value is an aphrodisiac."
Good post!
I also agree with your other points.. Really lengthy explanations of already known community principles.. but I like the way you have come to your own unique understanding of them, and I love the passion in your explanations. This isn't a knock on you saying "this stuff is already been preached".. quite the opposite.
I've found myself doing the same thing at times.. coming up with new epiphanies only to discover that there is already a term for them. It doesn't mean your epiphanies are any less brilliant. Just shows that you're on the right track.
The ones I saw you mention (besides "assume attraction") :
- "The game is played in comfort"
- "Social Value is an aphrodisiac."
Good post!
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Value is self-perception. Low Value people label themselves in their minds as such. They don't feel deserving, or brave enough, of being the Ultimate, Super-Powered versions of themselves.
As of getting more experience at college parties, I came to realize, I'd even tell myself, that look wtf this whole game is 50% taking care of the friends/obstacles+very importantly logistics. Because if me and my wing are in with 2 girls and there is no 3rd obstacle, it's done. So it's interesting you point that out. I realize real game is working the room. It's not whirly twirly make them giggle with joy attraction for 5 minutes, but seeing the fucking matrix and tweakin with it as best you can which gives you the lay.
Awesome post.
Dion, how old are you.. I've wondered this for awhile
Dion, how old are you.. I've wondered this for awhile
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Android Wrote:
Awesome post.
Dion, how old are you.. I've wondered this for awhile
18
And you? haha
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Attraction and looks are not as important as this community makes it to be.
I think alot of people focus intensly on the opening and getting a girl attracted and the end goal which is sex.
Most of the time they overlook the mid game and see it as a blurr grey color in between the black and white colour that they call attraction and closing. They forget the shit that counts the most. The stuff that IS GAME which is the vibing and connecting and handling the human and envioremental logistics between meeting a girl and fucking her.
Attraction
Guy's put waaaaaaaay too much importance on this. Way too fucking much.
They see attraction as this time bomb that can only be held from blowing up by super duper ninja magical skills. So they want the newest and most hip lines to get attraction.
Here is something to realize. If you break it down to the core of the issue. Every girl is attracted to every guy sexually. Period. Look at it this way. When a girl fucks a guy all that she needs is a body and a dick to indulge in the pleasure that is sex. When we go back to the essence and animalistic core when you are fucking a girl. She does not give a fuck about your personalitie or your fucking jaw line and cool khaki clothes money or car. She wants the dick.
So where does that bring us. Well if you think about it. And be really real then that means that deep inside from the core woman want to have sex with every normal man with two arms and feet and a head body and cock on it. No matter if its a homeless guy addict or a socially seen ugly guy or model looking guy. And the same counts for man. Most man will fuck most the woman as long as they have a pussy and a normal body. So back to what i was saying. Woman on a day to day basis feel sexual attraction to 100's of man they see. Just because they are MAN. Nothing more. Not because they got a cool car or are tall. No because they are man. And woman are ment to want to fuck man. Period.
So that means that when you look at it from this point of view. Almost every woman is sexually attracted to every man in some way. And this also means that the moment you talk to a woman. You don't even need to think of wheter she wants to fuck you. Cause she does. The moment you talk to a woman know that she is interested of fucking you and thinks about fucking you probably just because you are A MAN. The opposite sex to which she naturally is atttracted to no matter if you are a pick up star or a homeless guy. If you got a dick and a body she will have nothing against fucking you.
So where does the problem come of so many guy's not being able to get ass. Well lets look at it this way.
A homeless man walks up to a girl in a group or crowded area and says the following.
sceneario #1
Homeless man: Wanna fuck?
Girl: Ugh.no...get away freak..omg..i am not a slut...iew..you are such a pervert
Now lets says this girl is the only girl on earth and the homeless man is the only man on earth. and re-enact the scenario.
scenario #2
Homeless man: Wanna fuck
Girl: Sure...where
Now the reason she is willing so quik is because nobody is around and she won't feel judged therefore she can act openly on her core animalistic desires and feelings without feeling judged. But this doesn't mean the girl in the first scenario thinks any different. No she still thinks and feels the same as she would feel in the second scenario but now she feels restricted from acting upon her desires of fucking the homeless man in fear of being judged and looked down upon by the other people.
So if this is the case. And naturally all girls want to fuck all man ( giving she didn't just had sex before a guy aproached her and is no mood ). What is the problem then. Well the problem is not in getting her to notice you A MAN which you do by opening her with anything ( opinion opener..direct..shock and awe..clawe..any kino ) and from there assuming attraction cause SHE IS ATTRACTED TO YOU FOR YOU ARE A MAN AND SHE IS A WOMAN. She can't fight this. This is what god wanted and no way is any logical thinking is gonna repress her feeling attracted to a man in her gut hart and mind.
The real problem and the skillset is in opening a girl and making her notice you and from there skillfully manipulate/redirect the rhythms and energy of the conversation and vibe and her peergroups and any other logistical obstacles in a way that will lead you and her alone where you can have SEX. See being a cool guy who is high value is not neccesarly to make a girl like you. But more to make her friends think you are cool which will make it easier for her to go along with your escalation and leading towards isolation. Because now she will think after being isolated from her friends. ''Hey ..my friends won't think i am a slut..i mean this guy was cool and they liked him so they probably think i am so cool for going with such a cool guy..i feel validated by my friends..so i will fuck this one...and won't be negativly judged but actually get props''
See a nerd can walk up to a girl and open her. And she will still think of fucking him and feel attracted to him. He doesn't have to be high value for her to want to fuck him. Its just that if she will go and act upon her desires as a woman and fuck a nerd. She will feel judged by her friends and the people around. So in one way we can actually say. To be a high value and cool guy is actually to disarm the cockblocks. Which is the world in her eyes. The world says fuck a nerd and you are a loser and fuck a cool guy and you are cool. So we need to be high value and cool chill guy's in order for her not to worry about being judged and seen in a bad light by her peergroup and people around. It does not mean she doesnt wanna fuck you. If you are a homeless man or super geek. It just means it is hard for her to act on her desires without being judged.
So what we wanna do with GAME is lead her into the bedroom without her being scared of getting judged by the people around as a slut or easy girl. This brings us to what game actually really is and where it actually is played. In the midgame. That which occurs between stepping up to a woman opening your mouth and sticking your dick in her vagina.
Like i said before. Attraction is very easy to create. Its very very very fucking easy. Just by being A MAN WITH A DICK. She will be attracted to you. But the only reason you need to have a high voice and come in high value is for her to think that her friends will like you and therefore they will find you cool too. What she doesnt realize is that her girlfriends and other girls probably don't need you to be a cool guy and high value in order to wanna fuck you. Just like her. But you know how we people are. We think we are all different. We think everyone is different from us. And so she is scared to tell her friend ''i don't care i wanna fuck this guy! he has a dick'' in fear of the friends saying ''but he is homeless'' When in fact the friends probably secretly want a mans dick too. Its all social conditioning.
Fucking a girl without disrupting her social conditioning is WHAT GAME IS.
Leading her through the paths into sex without her social conditioning being violated. So comfort and just vibing like a normal person plus escalating while handling the logistics of friends and enviorement is WHERE THE REAL GAME IS. This is what you should practise. If you still have a hard time creating attraction and thinking about it and worrying if a girl want to fuck you. Uhmm..fucking yeah she wants...assume attraction cause as a woman she has it for you just for you being A MAN alone. So next time opening a girl stop thinking about your looks or cool line. She already wants to fuck you for having a dick alone. Just focus on vibing with her and smoothly transitioning from place to place which will lead to sex.
But that is a whole different topic. And one that is not talked about allot in RSD i think. When in real this is where game actually is. Logistics and peergroup and friends handling.
Like i said good looks only spark attraction and so does slapping a girls ass and just smiling at her. But as you see getting attraction and actually fucking a girl are two very different things.
So next time don't worry while talking to a girl if she likes you cause
Girls are attracted to you JUST FOR THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A MAN AND THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE.
Just because a girl didn't fuck you doesn't mean she didn't want too. It means you failed in helping her going to that place where you could fuck her without her being judged by her friend.