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September 2nd, 2010
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TheRajNYC

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Join Date: 09/13/2008 | Posts: 167

 Went out last night to a birthday barty (barty = party at a bar). This was in my social circle so I wasn't gaming. Well perhaps it is natural now :) A few things...

* Beforehand I was trying to get my HB10 model pivot to come out with me. She invited me over to her place to hang out and have tea after dinner. But I was pushing her to come out... eventually she went "dead air" on me. The whole interaction was fucked up, I haven't hung out with this girl in months and she ALWAYS flakes. She is socially insecure and I think she hates going out b/c she gets approached or looked at ALL THE TIME. And she is getting over a divorce. She's 27 btw, not my type physically but a REAL head-turner (tall, blonde, skinny - she's a real model/actress type). These girls are plan-changers so I don't know how to approach her. I just want to hang out sometime.
* I rode my bike to the bar. Since it was in my social circle and I didn't give a fuck I wore this BRIGHT orange fleece jacket. With reflectors and everything. It looked like a safety vest. Some comments that I got all night included  "Hey man, where's the air traffic controller's meeting?"  and "Did you steal that from a construction site?"  and "You look like a crossing guard." So people were testing me, girls were trying to get me to take it off, but I loved it and it worked. By the end of the night one or two girls even told me that they loved my jacket, haha.
* Approached a cute black girl at the bar, "Hey - are you here for Roger's birthday? No? Oh that's cool, I just wanted to say hey, I thought you were pretty cute." Then we chatted for about 90 seconds and went our own ways. I thought nothing of this interaction until an hour later, when she was leaving with her HUGE black boy-friend, and she came up to me and gave me a nice kiss on the cheek to say goodbye! I feel like I could have even tried for the number close, haha. How nice :)
* The highlight of the night was HB6 IndieRocker. I am actually pretty attracted to her type right now - short black hair, kinda punky attitude - but the more I got to know her the less attractive she was. ANYHOW I warm-approached (she was with the birthday boy) and I immediatelly pulled her into me. Going pretty hard on the kino within the first 15 seconds, holding her hand, close-talking, whispering in her ear, etc. She was into it! This is a physical part of my game that I am just becoming congruent/natural with.... a lot of it goes to Moondoggy for pushing my boundaries with the claw station in Vegas, haha... but girls have been receptive to that hard kino within seconds of our eyes meeting.
* Later on I saw HB6 IndieRocker outside with her friends, I definitely won them all over. They were shit-testing me, too... haha. "Oh you smoke? Buh-bye. Good-bye."  and "Are you bi? We are pretty sure you are bisexual."   (BTW at least they didn't think I was gay! Seriously that must be good progress, I am showing my fun/playful side and being aggressive with my sexuality... so they know I like girls.... but somehow possibly think I like guys, too.)
* Went for the Moondoggy kiss close in front of all her friends, and got a little peck on the lips :) That was nice and her friends all knew that it was kinda on. So I am getting good vibes from the friends, they are saying things like "Oh my god who is this guy - I LOVE him" and "Where did you come from??" etc. This girl is into me grabbing her ass and I am tickling her armpits.... we are having a lot of fun together and we just met. I tried to go for the make out "Let's take a walk, I'll show you my bike"  -- but when I went out to show her, she got really cold and dropped all kino.
* By the way my new bicycle is awesome. I have showed it to a dozen people and everyone loves it - it's a single-speed, perfect for riding around Manhattan, so tight, very hipster :) I can get to venues FAST, but guaranteed always going home alone. Haha - oh well, it was a GREAT ride last night.
* I pretty much got fucked by logistics. She was asking me how I was getting home - "On my bike" - she thought I had a motorcycle - asking me again later, "Oh yeah - you're getting home on your dumb bicycle" ... etc etc. Like it was REALLY ON for a few minutes, and then I feel like once she realized she couldn't get home with me, it just went downhill. 

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Pic from her Facebook.
Oh well. I got the number and we'll see if anything comes of it for a D2. I'm not worked up about this (she's not the quality that I would date) but I'd like to work on my SNL game sometime and this would have been a PRIME candidate. Fun and spunky and she lives in my 'hood.
Until next time!
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Mix

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Join Date: 04/11/2008 | Posts: 594

It seems like you are doing great, getting tons of closeing opps.

When you have the girl alone you should just make her comfortable, dont get into
bed too soon unless u are there to watch a movie, cause u have no couch.
Sleeping can be the worst cockblock.

Its best for you to pick her up and carry her into the bedroom once you think
she is about ready for sex, then continue to escalate.

Fingering is key, once they are wet its done dude, shes ready.

Everytime you fuck this up you learn something for next time. Getting those learning opportunities is the hard
part.

Ride the resistance, this will turn them on, you will grow to love the little sounds she will make
as this occurs.

When escalating dont just grab for shit, feel her hand as she goes to stop u and pull away before
she has the chance. Its a dance, you will not get resistance if you constantly pull back just before
it actually occurs.

By going out at night you begin to form a closer mindset because u have less time to work.

When I go on a date i always have a plan for having sex that night, its almost automatic.

Have your place ready, and just have fun with the girl. Day 2s are only dull if arnt doing something
you enjoy, but it can still be repetative. My last 4 day 2s were almost identical, it doesnt matter as long
as its fun.


Hope this helps, Pythag gave me similar advice back in the day, and ive been closing ever since.
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#63
TheRajNYC

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 Hey Mix - Thanks for the feedback, man. I think I will refer to it in the coming week as I try to close more.

Tonight... Hung out with HB6 IndieRocker all night. As always, lots to say here :) But I will distill it to a night of testing. This girl beat the shit out of me, btw. Punching me REALLY hard in the abs, shoulders, etc. Telling me - "You know I'm just testing you" - flat out tests all night.I could tell she really wanted a relationship so I wanted to cut this right in the bud.  What was funny was I specifically told her, "I am a dirt bag - I do not want a relationship with you - I am going to fuck you - who knows what will happen tomorrow." Staying positive and having a good time in the now. She's cool though. SUPER independent and really sharp. Here's another picture of her:

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HB6 IndieRocker from my camera phone tonight, met her on a warm approach last night (extended social circle)

Anyhow we made out a little, biting her neck, massing her HOT awesome back. Girl has an amazing back. Grabbing her piereced nipples a little. She hung out with me all night, running errands, seeing friends, then going to this house party in the neighborhood.

For the record, my HB7 or HB8 NeuroScienceBabe flaked on me tonight. We were supposed to meet up at 11:00pm and then have an epic night of fucking. Unfortunately she was exhausted from work, and one of her girlfriends was having family issues. I don't know.... not too worried about it but I thought I really had her in the bag.

Number-closed a lesbian at brunch today! Haha. Really hot with amazing boobs. I got her number and texted:

Me: Hey punk :)  Do you speak text
Her: Yes I speak homo and I know you do too

Whoops! :)

Then I number and Moondoggy-kiss closed an HB7 CougarCook tonight. Flirting pretty hard with her, entertainer/gay mode all the way (swooping in at the end fo the party! haha). Late 30's woman, but really sharp and SUPER receptive to all of my flirting. Upper West Side, represent! She is an amazing chef, too (it is her job professionaly).

One interesting thing is that I have been out with my friends at this house party before (they have them frequently). And I am getting MUCH better feedback from girls here now. It's a new crowd of people, too, but I am being more alpha, more flirty, I can calibrate better, I feel like I have some deeper connections with new people that I meet. That's cool and I really like that.
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Haven't been gaming much lately. Pretty busy with work, plus I am happy with my HB8 NeuroScienceBabe. In fact she just left my apartment :) This girl has SUCH a tight body, she is always DTF (multiple times per day/always in the morning), and she has a great job. We are into a routine now where we have been meeting up twice a week.... wow, crazy to think I only fucked her for the first time a week ago?!

Anyhow I leave next Tuesday for a big Asia work trip. I will be around Southeast Asia for about four weeks. Not sure if I will be "gaming" but I will definitely be social and meeting new people. I got some new books on body language so I am pumped to read those.... shit I gotta go catch up on emails! Oh and I am throwing a party at my apartment tonight, anyone in NYC who reads my thread, hit me up for details  :)
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That rocker chick pic cracked me up.  She seems fun!  Makes me miss that NYC type of girl.

I like the quick tips that Mix gave you as well.
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What's up guys... I am in Asia for the next few weeks. Been here for one week already. I am not gaming but I had some interesting things happen.

On one of my first nights in Bangkok, I was going out with some old work friends. We were going to a fancy club and I wanted to bring a date. So I found a date within one hour :)  It was a cute Australian girl who was in town by herself, waiting for her boyfriend to arrive in a few days and had nothing to do. She was eating alone and I walked up and said, "Hey... I know this is kinda random... but I thought you were cute and had to say hello. I have to meet my friends in a few minutes, can I sit down and chat though?"   etc etc. She ended up following me around all night long, lots of kino, hand holding, leg rubbing - we looked like a couple for sure. I kissed her neck/grabbed her ass a bunch, but nothing physical happened and I wasn't pushing it.

What is interesting here is that exactly four years ago I had the hardest time doing the SAME THING in Bangkok. Situations like this remind me how much better I am getting at understanding and interacting with women. (I have a LOT of work to do, though.) But I would always get these awesome club invites from people at work, and I could never get a date to go with me. This time it just worked and the girl LOVED the interaction. Of course she followed up the next day and added me on Facebook. When I am in Sydney next time I will have a friend to hang out with!

SECOND interesting thing, when I came down to the beach here in Thailand on Sunday night, I was all by myself for a few hours. So I put out a message on this on-line site asking if anyone wanted to hang out... and sure enough a Thai girl with a sweet car drove all the way to my hotel to help me go grocery shopping  :)  She even gave me a massage, asked me if I liked Thai girls, if I wanted to get married, etc. Even drove me to the airport to pick up my parents at 1am that night, haha!  She was NOT my type, though  (built like a brick - short and thick)  so I was not interested in fooling around.

But talk about being invested. This girl drove an hour to see me, and then she let me drive her car all around, took me to fill up our fridge with beer and water bottles, etc etc. I got the idea what it must be like to be a hot girl  :)  Having guys do things for you to get your attention. And at the end of the night I didn't even feel like saying THANK YOU to the girl. I know that she had a great time with me  (I made her laugh, I gave her a little massage, I got on top and was tickling her, etc).  I know she loved it because at the end of the night she asked, 'Can I kiss you?'  A girl has never said that to me before, so that made me feel very special.

Alright ~ that's all I got for now. Check out Moondoggy's thread because the Vegas crew is going to be blowing up the Day Game and D2 scene pretty soon.

Updates to come once I finish up all my work here and start having fun. That should be in about 10 more days.
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Gotta give a shout-out to S|n|ster here on the RSD forums - THANK YOU for the hook-up in Singapore. I met up with him on Friday night, we opened a few sets, he pulled :)  Singapore has hotels that you can rent out by the hour so that is pretty cool.

Then on Sunday S|n|ster got a bunch of guys together and we had a mini-bootcamp for Day Game. I talked a little about my stack - Wiredrawn aka Money Boy was even there - and then we all went out to a big mall. It was my first time "coaching" and I was having trouble keeping up with eight guys. However I got to spend a few solid hours with one guy in particular, and he saw really noticeable improvements. We worked on body language, totality, facial expressions, etc.

After that experience I asked my buddy El Topo for some coaching advice and this is what he told me:

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You want to have a ratio of 1 to 3 students. If you are the leader then you need 3 other minions. But the main thing is if it is 12 guys you can really only give them 1 or 2 things to work on at a time. That is it. Such as,

"You need to be louder"
"You need to display dominance, by getting closer"
"You need to try and be emotional from the start."
"You need to only open direct"

Or you can give the entire group missions.
"You have to do these 3 things in the next 2 hours...
 -- Interrupt a conversation
 -- Open with 'You're really beautiful'
 -- Challenge someone (example) -'I don't think you actually know how to be an assertive women, that is why you can feel so out of place at times'

After you do those 3 missions, I want you to experiment with what you think works. Then we will all meet and talk about what worked and how it effected us.

In any case, I hope that helps. With a large group you can only expect to accomplish so much.  You will only really introduce a few ideas with all of them.
Rather than if you have a group of 3, you can cover more ground.
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Anyhow, El Topo didn't give me permission to post that, so if he ever reads this, Hi Steve :)  and thanks for the advice.

Then I asked the kid that I worked with to type up his notes from the advice I gave him during our 1-on-1, here is what he sent me:

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Body Language:
Back and head up straight as if leaning against a wall. Chest out
Pressing your thumb and index finger together to avoid fidgeting of hands.
Take a step back when delivering your opener to act as though your as surprised as she is.
In moving sets do not chase.

Tone( Need to work on this...):
Project voice when in set.
Speak with confidence.

Way of talking:
Always go first.
Try to refrain from asking questions, instead give suggestions
Try to plow random things about her into stories that describe feelings instead of facts and at the end attempt to get her to tell a story of similar experience.

Miscell.:
If she rejects you asking for a number, do not plow. Tell her it was nice meeting her and find another.
Cold reading her at the start is important
Having the ability to transition from one thing to other is important.
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Cool cool. 

By the way, I will say this again, I have never gotten a Same-Day-Lay so I am not good enough to really give advice yet. But for real newbies (like S|n|ster and I were working with in Singapore) we were able to see some really remarkable upgrades in their game.
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Since we are both traveling, maybe you will be able to join me on one of my travels as well. Check out rsdfreetour.com. Enjoyed reading about your field reports.
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Papa - I will definitely see you at the RSD seminar here in NYC. Otherwise I checked your schedule and we don't cross paths yet!

Alright so I am back in NYC for a few days. I have been thinking a lot about game recently.... and what I want from all of this.... Honestly right now my situation with girls is the BEST it has ever been in my life.

My FB (HB8 NeuroScienceMedStudent) came over on Monday night. We hung out and had some epic sex. Her body is so amazing, it really is a piece of art that I admire. Milky white skin, heart-shaped ass, nice blue eyes, and a killer rack. I'll be going on a weekend trip with her at the end of the month. Taking her as my date with a bunch of friends for Memorial Day Weekend.

Then last night another girl came over to see me (HB7 ExGirlfriend). She and I have not had sex together in about 10 months... until last night. I really click with this girl. Since she is an ex-girlfriend I am so comfortable and she can read my mind sometimes. She challenges me and we connect pretty hard. Last night the sex was so great. She had not been intimate with anyone in a while. So she was begging me to make her come, and when she was shaking in my arms and moaning it just felt so good. Afterwards she was telling me, "Wow - I had no idea this was going to happen tonight - I just thought we were going to hang out and talk about your trip."  I told her I didn't plan anything, either, but it just felt right and it was so good to share that moment together. She agreed and said it was sweet.

I think that is the first time I have had sex with two different girls in a 24-hour period. Yes I am a late bloomer :) But these are really quality girls that I respect and would gladly introduce to my friends.

So perhaps I will be closing this thread soon, and starting a new one in a few weeks. I feel that I have reached another level from when I started here on RSD. There is a LOT of room for improvement in the coming summer. But today I am celebrating my success and enjoying the pleasure that I have given to two beautiful women in my life.
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Join Date: 05/01/2009 | Posts: 8

These FR and LR are great, keep it up man

Just out of curiosity how old are you?
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