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hahaha Thorzen! :)
Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
Thorzen, presence process is 12 week process. I finished it once and I am still in abosulte bliss. Nothing in the world can affect me. I am totally living in prsence, feeling like a million doller, Excited for each and every moment what it unfolds. Going to start again the process from July. This shit is truely life transforming. Give it a go and test for yourself :)_Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
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Value does not exist. There is no such thing as high or low status behavior.
Value does not exist. There is no such thing as high or low status behavior.
hahaha Thorzen! :)
Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
Thorzen, presence process is 12 week process. I finished it once and I am still in abosulte bliss. Nothing in the world can affect me. I am totally living in prsence, feeling like a million doller, Excited for each and every moment what it unfolds. Going to start again the process from July. This shit is truely life transforming. Give it a go and test for yourself :)_Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
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Authenticity / Congruency is attraction.
Value does not exist. There is no such thing as high or low status behavior.
Value does not exist. There is no such thing as high or low status behavior.
hahaha Thorzen! :)
Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
Thorzen, presence process is 12 week process. I finished it once and I am still in abosulte bliss. Nothing in the world can affect me. I am totally living in prsence, feeling like a million doller, Excited for each and every moment what it unfolds. Going to start again the process from July. This shit is truely life transforming. Give it a go and test for yourself :)_Interesting Shankar, i've been meaning to try timeline but haven't got around to it. And i've had the presence process book sitting here in my computer room for like a year or two but never got to it. Your post got me interested in it again. What did you notice from the presence process Shankar?
Anyway, I think I will start reading it. :)
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Now honestly - dis site that gives hate on EFT - the scepdic.com seems too inclined towards their RAS/avail. But the same can be said about Gary Criag. Or do you honestly think that what RSD is telling is the 100% raw truth about the success rate and satisfaction of their students on bootcamp? Marketing is everywhere. Everyone up-plays the "pleasant/usefull/shiny" aspects of his product, and downplays the negative. Even Jeffy said during Jeffy Show 1 that he uses a similar approach in order to connect with chicks.
(P.S. - Yeah, i DO have friends who are cool people and didn't got much from RSD bootcamp, so STFU).
Well, Gary Criag is no difference. If you believe every-one of his word - then hell... EFT would be FAR more popular, believe me. Free (in this case - internet pirates deliver it for free) solutions to problems costing MUCH less time and effort are SURE AS FUCK to be widespreaded quickly among society. Don't believe me? Go see a big marketplace with huge discounts - they don't even need that much ADs - people will spread the word themselves!
What is needed is unbiased observation of the shit presented in front of you. But since that's nearly impossible (we're heavenly filtered and patterned, don't even think about being an exception with just your tiny 2-5-8 years of meditation). Or the more likely approach: reading large enough amount of replies and reviews - so you make sure to view the opinions of many different peoples. In my experience - you gotta read truly a lot and wisely choose your sources.
Now back to scepdic.com: It does have a point on two things. First - the claim of the EFT organizations is that Accupuncture dates from 5000 years. Well it is sure stupid that the site uses as a "fact" that it is documented from 2000 years. However - the Chinese THEMSELVES state that it goes back to 4000 years ago. 1000 years difference? Dafuq? Maybe Gary made better research? Or just goes hard to blow up the mystical side of this. Don't know.
Second - the placeboo effect. I have a friend of mine who was into Buddhism and stuff & meditations. He's also into PUA from years already, and graduated psychology. He's very cool and everyone invites him to his parties. When i explained to him EFT back in the day (when i used it) - he was quite... "reluctant"(VERY soft word i'm using here) to believing this ain't bullshit.
Placeboo was more closely to his interpretation.
And as a matter of fact... i read a reply of ex-Qigong Master women, that stated this whole energy stuff is mostly not correct to believe the way it's presented, and will hold you down from further developement. If you wanna know why: Check out Shinzen Young's "Six common Traps on the path to Enlightment".
There are people suggesting that it is placeeboo as well - people who have practiced it since long, had results (positive), and even tought it on clients.
When you find a person who is sitting all day playing WoW - you can take their advice on how to level up faster in the game. When you see a fucked up killer - you could learn from them how to slice your neighbour the most painfull way. But i wouldn't take dating advice from the first one or photography lessons from the second one - providing the only photoes he has are the ones police took of him for his arrival in prison.
Now why the hell should i recieve a lesson on Total Life Living - if the person is NOT being good on every aspect they're advising to use their approach? Once upon a time, as Tyler said - at least in the community there had a very useful practice/question: "Is it field tested?". That is why i'm regularily asking: "Do you go out, do you get laid?" Because you can't be a fucking looser tapping all day at home (to keep your pureness intact), leaving only for groceries - and when someone on the buss station you walk past gives you a stare - you go home and tap that for 25 minutes. Then you go on a forums and suggest that you sould be using this and that in order to get good at sports or work for example... Pfffft...
Don't believe there are such people? Heck - then you've never truly searched and verified some of the Spiritual Fft - totally fucked up.orums out there on the internet!
In conclusion - if ot works for you - good. But the universe and nature have proved one of her patterns over time: "Magic pills are all in your head." So even if there's real effect of this - the marketing of the program is surely not accurate.
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thanks for the referral. Still have a few limiting bitch ass beliefs that nag at me at time. I'm excited!!!
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Even without eft though, just field will eventually get rid of any belief, just gotta work a bit harder. EFT makes it a lot easier in my opinion.
I know this reply is super late (4 yrs late!) but just wanted to comment on this post. I don't completely agree with field work being able to take care of every limiting belief regarding women or dating. I'm the guy who's always passed on inner game stuff like EFT or NLP to get rid of my limiting beliefs (in part coz I was too lazy or skeptical to even try) and rather went out and did it the hard way cos it just made more sense to me.
While actuall practice did in fact get rid of many of my limiting beliefs (women don;t like to be approached, people are watching, hot girls are higher value, women are mean, etc) including eliminating approach anxiety (don't really get it now a days, expect on rare occasions) I still have beliefs that greatly limit my potential. Am still insecure in some ways. Stil get frustrated at times when things don't go my way...simply put, I still have inner game issues.
So I'm really hoping this EFT stuff will help out. Hoping it's my missing link.
Thanks for reading.
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Even without eft though, just field will eventually get rid of any belief, just gotta work a bit harder. EFT makes it a lot easier in my opinion.
I know this reply is super late (4 yrs late!) but just wanted to comment on this post. I don't completely agree with field work being able to take care of every limiting belief regarding women or dating. I'm the guy who's always passed on inner game stuff like EFT or NLP to get rid of my limiting beliefs (in part coz I was too lazy or skeptical to even try) and rather went out and did it the hard way cos it just made more sense to me.
While actuall practice did in fact get rid of many of my limiting beliefs (women don;t like to be approached, people are watching, hot girls are higher value, women are mean, etc) including eliminating approach anxiety (don't really get it now a days, expect on rare occasions) I still have beliefs that greatly limit my potential. Am still insecure in some ways. Stil get frustrated at times when things don't go my way...simply put, I still have inner game issues.
So I'm really hoping this EFT stuff will help out. Hoping it's my missing link.
Thanks for reading.
EFT, at least used in the "typical" fashion which happens to be the 90% of the time (even here), will only fuck you more. You will be making horizontal progress as oppossed to vertical.
If you had done meditation daily during all of this time you were going out - and not some holosync shit - but real observation (which is harder than concentration and breathing exercises) - you would've discovered some Shit you DIDN'T EVEN SUSPECT you had EVEN NOW.
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hey people!
you should definitely check out "pstec"... i'ts a new therapy and seems to work faaaar better than eft - just google it
i will definitely experiment with this therapy over the next month
you should definitely check out "pstec"... i'ts a new therapy and seems to work faaaar better than eft - just google it
i will definitely experiment with this therapy over the next month
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