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March 26th, 2017
I Used EFT to change my Beliefs and it works like a Charm :)
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shankar

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Join Date: 08/25/2008 | Posts: 464

FraserVatt wrote:
I'm starting to get some really good reactions from women (had a chick number close me the other day, I'll probably get her over to my place or something after class tomorrow), but I still have a lot of social anxiiety holding me back from getting the results that I want. It's like I'm somehow an attractive guy now, but not confident enough and then I'm back to square 1.

Any ideas?
Bro !!

 YOU ARE AFRAID OF SUCCESS. It seems that ur unconcious is afraid of sucess. You need to break this mental pattern first. Use EFT on this. Use the following Statements :

Even though i have this social anxiety, becouse i am afraid of success, i deeply and completely love my self.

Even though i feel like i will never be able to break this Social anxiety but i still love myself and completely love myself.

Even though i still have this left over social anxiety and i dont know the core reason for it, but i still choose to release it from  my unconcious.

Even though i have fear of success and my unconcious wants me to keep in my conmfot jone, i want to relase this fear for ever. Thank you

Thank you for healing and i love you.

You may noticed that i do "thank you" kind of statemetns in every EFT session. In my personal experiance i found out that if you include thank you statements in EFT you will get some really profound results. I recommend you to use it.

And as far as getting attractive to women is concerned, bro u r on the right track. Rember as i said earler, once u start doing EFT, you aquire a kind of subtle magnetism ( which others called Presence). But i had noticed that the more you do EFT the more you gain that attractive kind of Vibe. I am sure some guys here can relate to that. All in all a good shit :)

Love

Shankar
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Truepioneer

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Join Date: 11/01/2008 | Posts: 33

So I did the technique last night (for the first time) I followed the instructions on Magnus' website.

After I went through the video I did feel releived of the AA but when I went out I was still there. But I can say it was more of a hesitation AA rather then a a crippling fear AA.

Today I went out to do some daygame stuff at the local supermarket and the crippling fear was back. In the end I only did one approach and the girl said "I'm busy thinking" wtf lol!!!! how ghey is that!?!?

I did like the message Magnus' was giving about how you can do the bootcamps read the material. It all gets me pumped but once I go out there the approach anxiety causes a relapse
. I know AA is all illogical, I know it's alot of bullshit social conditiioning I know it outdated programming but my nervous system still seems to have a mind of his own. It completely blocks me from accessing my "fuckin cool mother fucker the club imprint" 

I'm really a damn of potential waiting to explode. but the AA keeps me from exploding on the scene.

All the usual crap advice about feeling the fear and just going for it. just doesn't cut it for me.

It feels as if I have the pedal to the metal with the e-brake on.

I would really like to get this EFT to work at it's fullest potential.

The implications would be huge and then I can throw a big party:)
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Evan

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Join Date: 01/19/2009 | Posts: 10

What is the difference between EFT and EMDR?
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Warmth

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Join Date: 08/10/2009 | Posts: 209

EFT Study shows that EFT is not effective because it "Taps meridians". It's effective because it has common traits with traditional therapies.

Study located here

http://www.srmhp.org/0201/emotional-freedom-technique.html

Summary:

Abstract:
The effectiveness of the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), a treatment for anxiety and fear, was assessed. One hundred nineteen university students were assigned and tested in an independent four-group design. The groups differed in the treatment each received: applied treatment of EFT (Group EFT); a placebo treatment (Group P); a modeling treatment (Group M); and a control (Group C). Participants' self-reported baseline and post-treatment ratings of fear were measured. Group EFT showed a significant decrease in self-report measures at post-treatment. However, Group P and Group M showed a similar significant decrease. Group C did not show a significant decrease in post-treatment fear ratings. These results do not support the idea that the purported benefits of EFT are uniquely dependent on the "tapping of meridians." Rather, these results suggest that the reported effectiveness of EFT is attributable to characteristics it shares with more traditional therapies.
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shankar

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Warmth wrote:
EFT Study shows that EFT is not effective because it "Taps meridians". It's effective because it has common traits with traditional therapies.

Study located here

http://www.srmhp.org/0201/emotional-freedom-technique.html

Summary:

Abstract:
The effectiveness of the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), a treatment for anxiety and fear, was assessed. One hundred nineteen university students were assigned and tested in an independent four-group design. The groups differed in the treatment each received: applied treatment of EFT (Group EFT); a placebo treatment (Group P); a modeling treatment (Group M); and a control (Group C). Participants' self-reported baseline and post-treatment ratings of fear were measured. Group EFT showed a significant decrease in self-report measures at post-treatment. However, Group P and Group M showed a similar significant decrease. Group C did not show a significant decrease in post-treatment fear ratings. These results do not support the idea that the purported benefits of EFT are uniquely dependent on the "tapping of meridians." Rather, these results suggest that the reported effectiveness of EFT is attributable to characteristics it shares with more traditional therapies.

Dude Seriously , i dont give a dammn about this studies. I know for dammn fucking sure that this stuff is da bomb. Not only me, a lot of guys who read this thread has sent me thier success stories. Apart form the internet is liretelly filled with shit load  of case history. You may say Fuck internet, but i had seen so many things in my own personal experiance that its more then magical. so fuck those studies and try it on ur self and see the changes ur self.

Love

Shankar
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Wolfy

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Group P and Group M were also tapping, just not on the same points.  One group on other places on their arm and the other on a doll.  What other traditional therapies share that unique characteristic?
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Warmth

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Hey Shankar, I'm not saying EFT is a scam or it doesn't work. It clearly does work.

But it can work equally well without all the mysticism. I don't believe all this energy prism tan lines stuff. I would be more open to using it if it stuck to what was real.

Group P who did tapping behavior that was not along the meridian lines experienced the same benefit. So this meridian line stuff is not necessary to make EFT work.

Group M tapped a doll. And they recieved the same benefits.

So why keep this mysticism in the program? I'm sure its there to appeal to a market share, but I'm not part of that market share. Give me what's real bro. That's all I'm saying.
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Warmth wrote:
EFT Study shows that EFT is not effective because it "Taps meridians". It's effective because it has common traits with traditional therapies.

Study located here

http://www.srmhp.org/0201/emotional-freedom-technique.html

Summary:

Abstract:
The effectiveness of the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), a treatment for anxiety and fear, was assessed. One hundred nineteen university students were assigned and tested in an independent four-group design. The groups differed in the treatment each received: applied treatment of EFT (Group EFT); a placebo treatment (Group P); a modeling treatment (Group M); and a control (Group C). Participants' self-reported baseline and post-treatment ratings of fear were measured. Group EFT showed a significant decrease in self-report measures at post-treatment. However, Group P and Group M showed a similar significant decrease. Group C did not show a significant decrease in post-treatment fear ratings. These results do not support the idea that the purported benefits of EFT are uniquely dependent on the "tapping of meridians." Rather, these results suggest that the reported effectiveness of EFT is attributable to characteristics it shares with more traditional therapies.

Dude Seriously , i dont give a dammn about this studies. I know for dammn fucking sure that this stuff is da bomb. Not only me, a lot of guys who read this thread has sent me thier success stories. Apart form the internet is liretelly filled with shit load  of case history. You may say Fuck internet, but i had seen so many things in my own personal experiance that its more then magical. so fuck those studies and try it on ur self and see the changes ur self.

Love

Shankar
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Warmth

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Where are you getting that tapping is the traditional characteristic?

This is where they talk about the traits of traditional therapy that EFT incorporates:

EFT incorporates the same fundamental components as systematic desensitization and distraction. First, persons are required to focus on their fear (imaginal exposure) while tapping on specific locations, which is akin to distraction. Therefore, a decrease in SUDS ratings by Group EFT may be due to a combination of exposure and distraction, rather than to the specific tapping locations (meridians).


The present research was based primarily on the contention that meridian points are the fundamental factor in EFT's effectiveness (Pulos, 1999). However, EFT also incorporates a breathing technique followed by a repetition of the treatment procedures when initial post-treatment scores are less than 2 points lower than baseline scores (Craig, 2001a). Although the breathing technique does not utilize meridian points, the apparent efficacy of EFT may be due, in part, to the second application of the procedure. Group C's results demonstrated that the breathing technique alone was effective and, therefore, may be an important component of EFT's effectiveness.
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Group P and Group M were also tapping, just not on the same points.  One group on other places on their arm and the other on a doll.  What other traditional therapies share that unique characteristic?
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Wolfy

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I'm saying that the process of tapping is unique. What other therapies include tapping? 
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shankar

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Warmth wrote:
Where are you getting that tapping is the traditional characteristic?

This is where they talk about the traits of traditional therapy that EFT incorporates:

EFT incorporates the same fundamental components as systematic desensitization and distraction. First, persons are required to focus on their fear (imaginal exposure) while tapping on specific locations, which is akin to distraction. Therefore, a decrease in SUDS ratings by Group EFT may be due to a combination of exposure and distraction, rather than to the specific tapping locations (meridians).


The present research was based primarily on the contention that meridian points are the fundamental factor in EFT's effectiveness (Pulos, 1999). However, EFT also incorporates a breathing technique followed by a repetition of the treatment procedures when initial post-treatment scores are less than 2 points lower than baseline scores (Craig, 2001a). Although the breathing technique does not utilize meridian points, the apparent efficacy of EFT may be due, in part, to the second application of the procedure. Group C's results demonstrated that the breathing technique alone was effective and, therefore, may be an important component of EFT's effectiveness.
Wolfy wrote:
Group P and Group M were also tapping, just not on the same points.  One group on other places on their arm and the other on a doll.  What other traditional therapies share that unique characteristic?

Bro let me ask you just 1 question, Did you tried EFT for atlest 1 time on any issue ?

If the answer is no, then try it atlest 1once before coming into this conclusion and if answer is yes, then you defenetely did something wrong.
Fuck this studies and stuff. who the fuck cares when it works. Thse guys are group of nerds who have enough time to do these kind of experiments. Take my word and use it once atlest, to know what really EFT can do .

Love

Shankar
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