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December 4th, 2016
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Dexter~

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Hey fellas, I went out to a strip club tonight, for the first time , and at first glance I liked it ALOT!!!!

tons of hot chicks dancing, tons of Chodelings SUPPLICATING... i thought to myself ive got to pull home one of these girls.

SO i got there with my bud (doesnt know about game but is a skilled player)
we get there its not too crowded but there are old guys PAYING, SUPPLICATING, etc... i thought shit i cant be one of THESE guys, i want some pussy. I was Chill the entire night i wasnt nervous at all or anything completely confident:D

SO me and my freind are ENJOYING our each other enjoying the "scenery" but NOT eyeballing too much. genuinely having a good time together. A HOTT Stripper comes over to me I CLAW and we start talking (i wasnt feeling the WOOO) i tried not to push it, but i ended up asking some chode questions:o

she asked me for a dance i turned her down, she left.... a few minutes later ANOTHER super HOTT girl this time even sexier than B4 came up to me started talking (she wanted me to buy a dance) i learned my lesson from B4 this time i asked LESS stupid things and made it sexual in about 4 seconds. I kinda got her out of stripper mode..but ended up buying a dance, my buddy covered me so it was cool, he got another chick (BY FAR THE HOTTEST GIRL THERE!) we talked about music we liked, school, chodey things but i was having fun, and didnt care..i guessed her age (this was significant ill explain) said 23..after the dance she came back to me we talked and had a fun convo (Non chode) more rapportish, she told me her real age, and asked my opinion whether it was cute or not..i said "your cute anyway" (sort of with a fuck em attitude).....

a key thing you guys should know is my subcom is pretty strong ive got lots of core confidence


...any way she DID not ask for a dance this time, but she said ok im gonna go in the back for a sec..ill be back tho (seemed interested in me) my freind looks at me and says dude she likes you.. i think to myself ..."HOW COULD I BOUNCE THIS CHICK???"

anyway like she said she did come back, we talked for a little bit she asked for a dance i turned her down..we talked about how me and my freind were gonna go to a dance club asked her if she like those asked what time she got off (she said 2) i said some other stuff but i cant remeber

(i think this is where i fucked up)

I kept wondering, "should i ask for her number, should i ask to meet up??"
oh shit i already blew it

then she said "ok nice meeting you," fuck, most of the time her stripper persona was down too..oh well still had a fun night

questions:
1) is it harder or easier to bounce/pull strippers?
2) WOuld like some criticismshades
3) id like some of your thoughts on this

If i have other questons ill ask, but im gonna get one of those strippers!! im going to another hot strip club 2 morrow

ill keep yuz up dated

cheers
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JohnJohnJohnson

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There is no sex in this FR.

I wouldn't feel remotely close to success with a stripper if

1. $$$ were involved and
2. there was no sex.

Strippers are trained every hour of their jobs to make you feel uniquely interesting and attractive.

If there are $$$ involved, and no sex, and you have no experience getting strippers into bed, then it is impossible for you to determine that they were "dropping their stripper persona."

You have to realize that this girl who you gave $$$ for a dance probably now views you as "successfully gamed." Her job is to turn you into a customer by appealing to your natural desires and to your ego. As far as she's concerned, she did her job.

AT LEAST, that is how I would feel in your situation. I don't know. What do you guys think?
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Troof

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Junior Spesh Wrote:
Strippers need boyfriends too ;]


Good point.

However, a naive guy can get confused real easily and end up dumping off every cent he has if he is naive. I met a buddy who was in town for the weekend just as he was leaving a strip club. It was early evening and we went into a bar and had a couple of drinks.

He was all pumped because he was absolutely certain that this stripper was crazy about "him." He was excied about how he had her number and she convinced him that she thought he was great looking and that she was incredibly impressed the size of his cock. All of the things that she was saying to him were stereotypical stripperspepak for I want more money.

I asked him how much he had dropped and he said $500. He went back to her several times over the weekend.

After he returned home he called her and she went off on him. She told him that he just did not "get it" and that she had paid off her credit cards off of his visits.

He was sad.
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Dexter~

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interesting,

thanks for the feed back gents,

@Spesh: what are some things i should expect in the beginner stages of picking up strippers, do you have any posts on stripper game?
could you give some general guidelines?

Im gonna get one of those girls come hell or high water.
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HarryHaller Wrote:
Strippers aren't nearly as complicated as people make them out to be.

Like Troof said, a naive guy will very easily be taken advantage of though.

BTW-There is nothing wrong with throwing out some ones here and there (despite what many say), but don't do private dances and all that other crap.

For me, I would want to know I could do it without paying first, so that I could use those experiences as reference to determine when it was ok to give out money and when it wasn't.
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robotboner Wrote:
Dude you payed for her. She LIKES you? That's her job, to act like they like guys.


It sounds like she is good at it too.
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The absolute best guy I ever saw with strippers was mid-fifties grungy European guy named Daniel Hamilton. Unfortunately, Daniel is no longer alive. Anyway, Daniel took me to a strip club when I was a Noob and he broke down his method for me.

A note of caution!!! I've never picked up a stripper and I've never really tried to, but the following is what I witnessed and what was extremely effective for Daniel.

First of all, you must control the frame from the very begining: Here is what Daniel did verbatim:

Stripper: Hello.....
Daniel: Fascinating! come with me. (he looked the girl in the eye,cut her off mid sentence, and led her to where we would be sitting)

At this point, Daniel led us to a table and sat the girl in his lap. It was time for Daniel to do what he called "baffling her with bullshit". His method was to use cold reading and mentalism to get her out of her logical headspace. Daniel was very accomplished at cold reading and mentalism and he had been around enough strippers to know that they have universal traits. What's important is that he didn't buy into the "we're at a strip club" reality and he didn't try to get the girl to start talking about her day to day boring ass activities.

He later explained to me that you must lead a strippers mind away from the strip club environment but that you have to be careful where you lead her. In other words getting her to tell you her real name, that she's going to school part time, and that her favorite band is Nickleback doesn't do you any good. You want to take the frame to Emotionland!

Here is an example of a conversation Daniel might've had:

D: "Are you comfortable?'
Her: "Yeah, do you wanna buy a dance or a drink?"
D: "It's ashame that some of these girls don't give you a chance...." (notice that he wouldn't even answer questions that aren't relative to emotionland)
Her: "What do you mean?"
D: "I dunno, I just get the feeling that some of the people are jealous of you for no reason at all."
Her: "Wow, how did you know that?"
D: "I can see it in your eyes. You've had a jealous boyfriend in the past."
Her: "OMG, I have... blah, blah, blah"
D: "I guess that's just the way some people are. You're very intuitive aren't you? I bet you can tell a lot about poeple just by looking at them."
Her: Oh, you don't even know the half of it..."
D: "What do you think is going on at that table over there?"
Her: "That's Chuck, he's a regular."
D: "Haha, do the girls fight over the regulars or do the regulars fight over the girls?"

Daniel would repeat this type of conversation throughout the night. He would talk about emotions, intuition, spirituality, and relationships. Then he would cut the conversation off with a joke or a story. His basic framework was to establish deep rapport, "come up for air", then go into deeper and deeper rapport.

By the time we left, the hottest dancer in there forced her phone number on him and was practically begging him to hang out some time. She had the classic doggy in the dish look. I was amazed!

Now, as I said earlier, I have very little experience gaming strippers. So, take my advice with a grain of salt. I'm just explaing what the best I've ever seen did and what he taught me. Daniel died of a rare heart condition a few weeks later so I never got the opportunity to learn anything else from him. RIP Daniel.

BTW, Junior Spesh has a totally different style of gaming strippers and he is very effective as well. So, listen to any advice that he has.
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The strippers that I've known all had one thing in common; issues. If you spend any time with them you will be meeting those issues.
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Trig Wrote:

First of all, you must control the frame from the very begining: Here is what Daniel did verbatim:

Stripper: Hello.....
Daniel: Fascinating! come with me. (he lookedthe stripper in the eyes,cut her off mid sentence, and led her to where we would be sitting)

At this point, Daniel led us to a table and sat the girl in his lap.



What I quoted is by itself worth the price of admission. Good stuff. I have never picked up a stripper either and I never will. No desire to. Nonetheless, even if all you wanted to do was enjoy a lap dance that would be a great way to increase the fun.

Thanks for that.

robotboner Wrote:
Heck yeah, it's her job. If she doesn't bring home the bacon, her kids don't eat.

She was thinking, "Oh this dude isn't satisfied with just playful flirting.. let me get 'deep' with him, then he'll pay for my lap dance."



I once had a buddy get a lap dance and come back bragging about how the girl was truly into him. We left, met some buddies and went back about an hour later. He approached the same girl and it was obvious that she had no recollection of him whatsoever. Quite amusing.
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