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January 17th, 2018
I'm going debunk ONCE and for ALL that game isn't a SKILL and why you should NEVER blame yourself if you get rejected
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AntiCasanova

AntiCasanova

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if you approached a girl and you weren't weird or creepy and she rejected you, then 99.9% of the time she's either unavailable(boyfriend) or she doesn't see you as her type. It has NOTHING to do whether or not you weren't alpha enough or if you approached her from a 45 degree angle.  (or any idiotic PUA technicality autistic PUA fags bring up.)

THAT'S IT.  You don't have to do any faggy dancing monkey SWAG PUA bullshit to pull a girl who PRESELECTED YOU. The only thing you need to do is be cordial/friendly(not weird/creepy). THAT'S FUCKING IT. You don't have to do any WOO WHOO dancing monkey 10/10 numbus state SWAG or any of that shit.

Sure, all else being equal. Being witty/confident/alpha is better than being cordial/friendly but  that is NOT mandatory if you a woman already preselected you. Sure, it would be nice if a GIRL had a good personality, but that's not MANDATORY for me to fuck her if she was attractive enough.  So yes, although setting yourself apart with wit/confidence/swag helps, the prerequisite still has to be there, you STILL have to be good looking ENOUGH for her to reciprocate. Does it help? FUCK YEAH it does, is it MANDATORY? NO.... 99% of the game is played when a woman preselected you based off of her physical preferences. 

i've seen plenty of my good looking friends break EVERY PUA technicality and they still pull. WHY? because the woman already preselected them. 

PUA is not a skill. It never has been and it never will be. Women choose you, you don't choose them CASE CLOSED. 

Out of all my positive results i've gotten with women(makeouts/lays/pulls/etc) i didn't treat that girl ANY different than the thousands of times i got rejected. It just so happens that the girl i approached was already into me from the get go.   RESULTS ARE 100% RANDOM. You can increase your chances if you approach in larger volumes or by looksmaxing yourself, but generally speaking EVERY WOMAN HAS DIFFERENT PREFERENCES and that EVERY GUY GETS PRESELECTED AT A DIFFERENT RATE BASED OFF OF THEIR LOOKS/MONEY/STATUS/LOCATION. 

Here's what happens if you have good "Game" (confidence/wit/humor/) to a woman who doesn't see you as her type. The moment you try to make the interaction non-platonic is the moment she will make EXCUSES such as "oh sorry i have a boyfriend" or "my BF is over there and he woudln't appreciate it if you flirted with me" or "oh sorry, not looking right  now". Or she WILL politely give you her phone number for HER to ignore it. Basically you either get friend zoned or get the BF objection. 

What good game will do is expedite the process of you fucking her if she was already into you. it will not create attraction when there is NONE to begin with.  Another thing "game" will help on is if the girl has multiple options of equally good looking guys; it will help set you apart from the rest(this happens if you are 1 or 1.5 points below her LOOKS league). Still, the prerequisite HAS to be there(your LOOKS) for any "Game" to work. And even then, good game is not MANDATORY to bang a girl who preselected you the same way a hot girl doesn't need a good personality for a guy to bang her(as long as she looked good)

Lastly, Even if you know of some guys who DO sleep with hot girls occasionally. Guess what? I seriously doubt they are able to replicate it consistently because in order for GAME to be a skill, it HAS to be replicated CONSISTENTLY. People will claim in their FR that they get laid, but if you do the math, they are probalby only talking about the  CHERRY PICKED 1-5% times they get success and ignore the 95% of the times they fail.  


PUA IS NOT A SKILL (unless she's already into you, but not mandatory)
GAME IS NOT A SKILL (unless she's already into you, but not mandatory)
THERE ARE NO ADVANCED/INTERMEDIATE/NOVICE (unless she's already into you, but not mandatory)
THERE ARE NO GUYS GOOD WITH WOMEN (unless she's already into you, but not mandatory)

GUYS GET PRESELECTED AT A DIFFERENT RATE BASED OFF OF THEIR LMS+LOCATION. 

if a woman preselected you, 99% of so called "Game" is already played for you.

















 
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#1

Forever Beast

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Join Date: 12/13/2017 | Posts: 305

This is all true if your game sucks. If your game is actually good, you get some very interesting results. 

You have no game. That's just it. 
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Tyler

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So what I'd like to do for the video is have you explain your ideas, and then we would go out together.

Thoughts?  Or is there anyone else from your camp that would be interested?

It's not a video meant to make anyone look dumb.  I would just like to give a voice to people who are skeptical, let them have their say, and then let them check out what I can do.  Then from there if they are still skeptical, they could explain why.

It's an opportunity for you to share your voice and be heard.  I think there is a group of you who are SUPER passionate about this topic, and this is a chance for you to have a say.

At the same time, it's a chance for me to show you what's possible as well.

Anyone interested?

Tyler
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Kingmaker

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so, you just approaching until you see that some girl like you? do you even kow how to get over bf objection? you didnt treat any girl different? maybe you fucking should! every girl react to different things, she doesnt know you at the beginning, it is her default state to reject you, but you go on, rely on preselection. Do you know how many times i was rejected exactly the way you saying and i still pulled? so your game is going for preselection? okay, that is fine, but most people here dont play like that, they learn to handle objections, pump them with emotions while just being yourself ( i hope) and learn how to pull, and they get better way faster
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Oscar10

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So Aznguy just to be clear... in your experience would you say that:

1) A girl decides whether she wants to sleep with your or not before you even open your mouth?
2) Or would you say women have certain standards, and even of you meet those standards it's not garaunteed you'd sleep with her? (Obviously for this option removing outliers if you fall below her standards you not sleeping with her no matter what )
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#5

hugge

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You can also see game as the "skill" of avoiding extremely common mistakes people make. I made mistakes for over 30 years before I finally nailed it. Also, it takes some experience with women to know what they like and not like. At my job for instance, people can get involved in very corny discussions. Girls tend to look at me with "that" glance ("please save me") and I show them, with a smile, that I get it. Skill or not, it does at least take some experience.
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Oscar10

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Kingmaker Wrote:
so, you just approaching until you see that some girl like you? do you even kow how to get over bf objection? you didnt treat any girl different? maybe you fucking should! every girl react to different things, she doesnt know you at the beginning, it is her default state to reject you, but you go on, rely on preselection. Do you know how many times i was rejected exactly the way you saying and i still pulled? so your game is going for preselection? okay, that is fine, but most people here dont play like that, they learn to handle objections, pump them with emotions while just being yourself ( i hope) and learn how to pull, and they get better way faster

Yeah the way Aznguy games is he machine guns approaches, until he finds a girl DTF then he capatalises on that girl. This is why for HIM game isn't a skill. Cause obviously the way he runs game is not a skill but EFFORT.

The way the rest of us run game though it IS a skill. So his not lying, for him game ISN'T a skill but for the everyone else including good looking guys like RSD408 or Shtoyle game IS a skill.

There's no need to argue with Aznguy cause his not lying. The way he runs game, that isn't a skill but sheer effort.
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#7

Macstar

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Join Date: 01/09/2016 | Posts: 15

Imagine being so passionate about proving a theory that women don't like you, for fuck sake man get a grip
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AntiCasanova

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Oscar10 Wrote:
  Yeah the way Aznguy games is he machine guns approaches, until he finds a girl DTF then he capatalises on that girl. This is why for HIM game isn't a skill. Cause obviously the way he runs game is not a skill but EFFORT. The way the rest of us run game though it IS a skill. So his not lying, for him game ISN'T a skill but for the everyone else including good looking guys like RSD408 or Shtoyle game IS a skill. There's no need to argue with Aznguy cause his not lying. The way he runs game, that isn't a skill but sheer effort.


Nope, my topic applies to EVERY GUY. Whether he's chritiano ronaldo or  the hunchback of notre dame.

RSD408/Whatsyourshoyte are better looking than me, so they get preselected more OFTEN, and thus they have more opportunities to convey their personality on a girl who allows them  to flirt with her in a non-platonic way.

EVERYONE gets preselected at a different rate based off of LOOKS/MONEY/STATUS/LOCATION. 

btw, everything takes effort. You can do the machine gun approach route, or you can join a fraternity in college or become a GYM owner/yoga instructor/etc(where you get situationa status). Or my favorite, GO OVERSEAS 
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AntiCasanova

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Kingmaker Wrote:
. Do you know how many times i was rejected exactly the way you saying and i still pulled? so your game is going for preselection? okay, that is fine, but most people here dont play like that, they learn to handle objections, pump them with emotions while just being yourself ( i hope) and learn how to pull, and they get better way faster


BULLSHIT. I can bet out of the 99.9% of the time you didn't fuck a girl by her rejecting you, you are talking about the .1% times where you pulled a girl who rejected you. The exceptions does not disprove the rule. The majority is STILL the majority. 

if you want to fucking waste your time on a dismissive/disinterested girl, be my guest.

LMFao pump them with emotions. Sorry boyo, they only allow guys to do that to them if you already meet their physical standards. 

 
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#10

Kingmaker

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yes, everyone gets preselected at certain times, we just dont give a shit! we dont rely on it, because if we do, we would barely fuck any girls
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