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January 17th, 2018
HOW EFFECTIVE IS “GAME” IN WESTERN COUNTRIES???
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rsd408

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Join Date: 04/27/2015 | Posts: 186



I viewed this video about “menvy” and the importance of being a man and that attracting women with your looks (like a flower) isn’t necessary and it’s preferable to attract women with your masculine behavior, resourcefulness and being “on your purpose”and that’s 100% correct........ FOR NON-WESTERN COUNTRIES. The women in the West (Western Europe and the Anglo-sphere) DO NOT need the protection and provision of a man (due to the west’s peace, prosperity and government assistance) and are being constantly brainwashed by media to think they deserve the perfect guy. Roosh V, although this guy is ugly and weird, does a pretty good job describing this phenomenon of male attraction becoming more aesthetics/looks based in the West and this is back in 2012. I assure you that with online dating apps like Tinder becoming the norm we’re already 100% on the aesthetics model for attracting women   (start @1:25)



In poorer countries where women are almost always in physical danger (due to the lack of stability) and resources are scarce, yes a man’s ability to protect and provide is 1000 times more important than his stupid looks. But in western nations women don’t have to think about any of that and thus want physically attractive and/or rich and high status guys. Unless the economy collapses and we go to war this won’t be changing anytime soon (and likely is worse during very good economic times) so your next product should discuss how men with average to below average LMS can go practice your “game” techniques in the 3rd world if they want it to work lol
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Tyler

Tyler

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Being "on your purpose" isn't about making money or providing provisions.

It's about you having a larger purpose so the woman isn't your main purpose.  This makes you indifferent to her bullshit, and so more attractive.

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rsd408

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Tyler Wrote:
Being "on your purpose" isn't about making money or providing provisions.

It's about you having a larger purpose so the woman isn't your main purpose.  This makes you indifferent to her bullshit, and so more attractive.

Tyler
 

Thanks for responding to the skeptics to clarify your POV. Unfortunately this explanation is lacking because I don’t see how being indifferent to anyone creates attraction. If a homeless person is indifferent to me I won’t chase his/her validation; that strategy only works if that person already has some value in your eyes (ie you give a shit about their opinion). To most hot women. A short ugly ethnic broke statusless guy is of no value and viewed as a nuisance. I see how looks, money, status, as well as fun/charismatic behavior (although not sexual) sparks attraction; all of these sources of attraction are rooted in evolution. To be clear I’m not some troll short ugly ethnic guy who can’t get laid and is bitter; I’m a tall (6’5”) handsome (dates 7s/8s off tinder regularly) jacked (lift weights everyday) guy who’s winged with a lot of RSD fanboys who I see get shit results with women and blame it on their “game”.. to a red pilled guy like me who actually knows what women will do for a guy with high LMS (looks/money/status) I believe these guys are rejected 99% of the time due to their low LMS and not their behavior. I get frustrated seeing them waste their time and money on pickup when it’d be better served going all in on improving their LMS. The ugly side of this self help stuff is that it suggests that failure in any aspect of your life (in this case dating) is your fault and you were rejected by that hottie because of your lack of execution of the behavioral teachings, not because of your height, race, face, build, age, social status, or financial situation, when +90% that IS what it is. “Game” is not a hack to a woman’s brain that can overcome her evolutionary desire for high LMS guys, except in very rare/specific circumstances (social circles, she’s very high/drunk, has weird fetish, etc) and thus a low LMS guy who wants to date/fuck hot women is dependent of low probability events and is simply playing a numbers game (1/1000 approaches results in an exception to the rule event).
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marcelohimself

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Join Date: 01/06/2018 | Posts: 26

Portugal.

Portugal is a small country. The capital of Portugal is Lisbon and it is where 99. 9% of the puas are found. Other cities like Porto and Braga are almost nonexistent. I do not live in Lisbon, I have never met any pua from Portugal. I live in Braga which is close to Porto and is perfect for making approaches. In nightclubs it is very common to see stylish and handsome men. But they do not have Balls to do cold approach and if they do it or they are drunk or they do not know to act normal and for lack of calibration and game they do not have results. So here there is no competition even if the women are with friends. Women here also have low standards it is common to see ugly men with 7's, 8's but they know each other through the social circle. I am considered good looking and I am approached a few times and harassed. With game knowledge the results skyrockets.
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