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September 22nd, 2018
I'm really confused and enraged at some of Owen's statements
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ProteinShot

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Join Date: 09/13/2016 | Posts: 162

In one of Owen's comments he said that women don't really care about money and in fact gravitate towards "complete degenerate retards". As someone who always admired CEOs, business leaders and philanthropists this shocked me and infuriated me. I've always wanted to just meet a good girl, be cool with that good girl and have a satisfying sex life..WITH JUST THAT ONE WOMAN. Then I got into pickup and discovered all of these "truths" about how women only want douchebags, degenerates and bad boys when I always thought they wanted somebody well put together - stylish, cool, sophisticated..that sort of thing. Like a real-life Tony Stark/Iron-Man. However, Owen is saying "women don't care about any of that stuff - they don't care about money or success, they just wanna fuck somebody whose aggressive and "alpha". Sorry, but I don't know how in this day and age you can be alpha without a good career when the world runs on $$$ and it pisses me off because he's basically dissing everything I've ever wanted in life - I don't want to play musical chairs with all of you(except in this scenario that "chair" is a woman and risk getting an STD, I just want to find somebody that works for me and my lifestyle and do something great for myself, technology/engineering and humanity while having a cool sexy chick as a girlfriend or wife. Is that so much to ask for?
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ProteinShot

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rsd408 Wrote:
It’s called red pill rage... stop being immature and complaining about how reality works. Instead grow a pair of balls, go after what you want in life, and STFU!!!
Whatever man, I just think you're delusional and need a mental hospital
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ProteinShot Wrote:
rsd408 Wrote:
It’s called red pill rage... stop being immature and complaining about how reality works. Instead grow a pair of balls, go after what you want in life, and STFU!!!
Whatever man, I just think you're delusional and need a mental hospital


LOL - I wasn't going to reply but seeing this post - at least you have your head screwed on right enough to recognize trash.

Tyler says on the video very CLEARY that you don't need to become a degenerate. Do what it takes the attract women, but live however you want to live (- ironically this is what degenerates do anyway). Then choose the women that suits you the best.The point of the video was that degenerates do not give a fuck about anything, this attitude attracts women, but they also do not give a fuck about their lives. You can learn from this and have the same attitude/behaviour/mindset when it comes to attracting women, but guess what? Big suprise - You do not have to emulate the fucked up life part. 

Finally do you want a women to like you for you or like you for your money? It's great you want to help humanity, in fact kudos to you for that - but not everyone is the same way.
Think of it like this, you have obvioulsy done some stupid stuff in your life and you probably still are, why are you expecting others to not to? Again big suprise - women are humans too! Just like everyone they go for the can of Coke instead of the green kale juice. 
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looks are the only thing that matter for a men. irregardless ive done 5000000000 approaches. men are valued for their beauty, evolution dictates that men must have symmetrical face in order to hunt and war and provide value. for millions of years men go out to chase and fight and kill dangerous animals they come back looking even more beutiful. when men go to war they come back with perfect chiseled jaws and that perfect nose. looks feed millions, looks builds skyscrapers, looks protect. belive me after 99.3% rejection rate. think of the most valuable men in history - that's right you seeing the pantheon of male models throughout the history of mankind. why do you think majority of cosmetic products are aimed at men? looks. why do you think the most well known beauty pagents are for men? looks. why is the male called the fairer sex? looks. when i say masculine what is the word that pops into you head? that's right, its the word beauty.

 
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samgamgee

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Tylersbeard actually summarized it pretty nicely. It essentially is true that you won't attract chicks with money, a degree etc. Of course, in the 3rd world you could get many chicks just by flashing your passport or your cash, but in the western world that simply isn't the case. 

I have two pieces of advice.  1. Read the book the "the rational male" read it man, it will upset you, the book will tell you many painful things you need to know about yourself and about women. And then also read "the manipulated man". Your reaction should be similar, unless of course you resort to "none of this is even remotely true" behavior.

2. Lead the life you want to live. Do it for yourself and as you say "for humanity", but don't do it for chicks. It won't get you chicks. However, along your path you might actually meet a woman who is worthy of your time. Choose wisely.
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bingobango

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Soooo, you want to have a good career for women??

 
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amicoolyet

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Read the rational male 10/10
putting the manipulated man on my book list
thanks samgamgee
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SicGameDotCom

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I don't agree with Owen's comments at all. For women that are 8's and below, sure. As for the 9's and 10's, unless you get pretty lucky, they get inundated by guys asking her out that you have to offer them something more. Sure, you may sleep with them, but if you want a relationship with them, you'll have to show them you're a successful person outside of the game.
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ProteinShot

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bingobango Wrote:
Soooo, you want to have a good career for women??

 
I want to have a good career for me; also I want to help people who are needy take control of their lives and help people out of shitty situations like hunger..I donate blood all the time and try my best while going to school to be the hero. I'm angry because I see douchey bad boys having sex with everything. How am I supposed to handle that when I always admired engineers and creative types and people like Nelson Mandella who created this amazing world for everybody? I'm being told they're provider cucks and the real alpha male is a degenerate loser(aka "lover") who got there first? It doesn't make any sense and makes me depressed for myself and the rest of the planet
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stilloldschool

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I've never seen a rich guy with a hot wife. Jk being successful is not a bad thing. If you really think being a degenerate is cool, just pretend to be. 
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Smoove

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@Protien Shot, I get it. We’ve all been there in some form, at least most have, where our perception of what we thought life was like and how it actually shows up are 2 very different things and it’s super upsetting. And while other guys on here are taking a hardline stance on here of “deal & STFU”, there is some truth to their point: it’s not really useful to spend too much time stunned by how life shows up. Anybody who excels in life has to constantly keep adapting and updating their sense of what works and apply that, instead of what they thought would work. This is how winners win. Shift, evolve, learn, master, excel. Rinse & Repeat.

I think it’s a good idea to keep winning for you, for your own personal satisfaction, and if you want to have ONE woman for life, that’s your prerogative. I think the lesson from PUA culture is just to: 
1-pick your woman very wisely 
2- frame the relationship the way you want from the start
3- never get lazy, she could leave at any time.

but don’t let any of that make you paranoid. Just don’t be blind to the pitfalls. Every time you step outside your door you do something dangerous; some part of you is aware that the world can be dangerous and hurt or kill you; yet you still go outside regularly. When there’s a reason to be on high alert, you know to be, and you usually know when that is. But you’re not paranoid every time you step outside the door.

The same with women; do as you will, but be informed about it and know that there can be dangers. Learn to identify them and enjoy your life.

 
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ProteinShot

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SicGameDotCom Wrote:
I don't agree with Owen's comments at all. For women that are 8's and below, sure. As for the 9's and 10's, unless you get pretty lucky, they get inundated by guys asking her out that you have to offer them something more. Sure, you may sleep with them, but if you want a relationship with them, you'll have to show them you're a successful person outside of the game.
I don't belong in this world, my mind is stuck in the mindset that was imprinted on my brain that "women are harder to have one night stands with and easier to get into relationships with because that's what they really want but men are dogs and just want to sleep with women". I don't want to spend inordinate amounts of time getting my "game" just right, I just want to find a cute..I guess old-fashioned woman who doesn't spread her legs left and right. I want to figure out how this world works before I die..I'm not that interested in women at all I just care that other dudes don't fuck mine.
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