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January 17th, 2018
Tyler:You should do a fully fleshed out video on looks and race
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HeyNigglet

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Otherwise, it's something that will keep coming up. These trolls that come from red pill forums will keep trolling if you don't . While i know that you've made statements acknowledging it's importance in game, you've never really talked it  with nuance and precision like you have on  many other topics. It's the pink elephant on the fucking couch. I think it's a little disengenuous to market game as something that is something everyone can benefit from to the extent that it will evn be worth their time or efficacious. The 5'0 asian with buck teeth virtually has no chance in getting the abundance that even you  as a balding ginger gets: You still have to novelty and advantage of being white, and you can't really know the full extent of what it's like to not be white. Most white men do not need to learn game but just to be fucking not retarded and not below a 6.  In every single free tour, bootcamp ect, it seems there are a disproportionate amount of non whites that attend . I think the programs should be catered to their needs since they are the ones who need the most help and stop giving the false expectation that game is "mostly" ambiguous and something that everyone can have. I think i can guess why papa  is a businessman and no longer a man.
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rsd408

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HeyNigglet Wrote:
Otherwise, it's something that will keep coming up. These trolls that come from red pill forums will keep trolling if you don't . While i know that you've made statements acknowledging it's importance in game, you've never really talked it  with nuance and precision like you have on  many other topics. It's the pink elephant on the fucking couch. I think it's a little disengenuous to market game as something that is something everyone can benefit from to the extent that it will evn be worth their time or efficacious. The 5'0 asian with buck teeth virtually has no chance in getting the abundance that even you  as a balding ginger gets: You still have to novelty and advantage of being white, and you can't really know the full extent of what it's like to not be white. In every single free tour, bootcamp ect, it seems there are a disproportionate amount of non whites that attend . I think the programs should be catered to their needs since they are the ones who need the most help and stop giving the false expectation that game is "mostly" ambiguous and something that everyone can have.


Well said. As you mentioned, the importance of looks (including race), money and status are only danced around by RSD instructors but never given a +2hr detailed video explaining just why LMS is so important to attracting women. Maybe discuss the limits of “game”? Does game really have limits? Is game more effective for some than others? These questions will never be honestly or directly answered by RSD because the truth is too red pilled and would likely scare off prospective customers and thus hurt sales. The idea is to make these potential customers optimistic and think there’s only upside to buying this RSD product, no downside. If that 5’3” skinny fat Indian guy who’s a 30yr old virgin thinks that there might  not be a very good return on investment in an RSD boot camp or digital product then he may not make that investment. They will only reluctantly address this issue (after enough backlash) and it’ll be along the lines of “Looks aren’t an excuse! If so and so can do it with their disadvantages so can you!” Which is a straw man argument and dismissive. 
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BlackRubles

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Tyler has made himself clear on numerous occassions.

As long as your "game" is good enough you can hook up with attractive women.

People say looks matter. Guess what: oxygen matters, water matters....

Everything matters to an extent
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HeyNigglet

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BlackRubles Wrote:
Tyler has made himself clear on numerous occassions.

As long as your "game" is good enough you can hook up with attractive women.

People say looks matter. Guess what: oxygen matters, water matters....

Everything matters to an extent


Not to the extent in which he has on other topics which are FAR less important than looks or race. Madison already has like three videos on race and he hasn't even been an instructor that long . Currently, game is a cis white male paradigm. This has to change if most people who need "game" are ethnics. I've actually heard of people who's results have gotten worse after gaming.All they really had to do was continue to be white and average while socially savy. Game can make you a fucking weirdo , chilling in the lair with all your pickup hommies , nt getting laid, overthinking it and waiting to get into state and presence lol.
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Tyler

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Certainly it's not stopping the guy from having sex with hot girls.

If a 6'4 celebrity jacked stud did the same things would he have an advantage?  Sure.  But it doesn't mean that the short dude can't get hot girls.

What you need to understand about women is they are emotional AF.  Their emotions get the best of them.  They chase validation and approval like you wouldn't remotely understand.  You need to learn to push their buttons.

For example, many of the hottest women I know have fucked lesbian fat butchy women.

So are you telling me if a short, butchy lesbian with no penis at all can seduce a Playmate, a short asian dude can't?  NO DUDE.  Limiting belief 100%.

The challenge with not being the stereotypical attractive guy is it GETS IN YOUR HEAD.  Most short dudes, for example, are insecure and weird.  I rarely see them being smooth of cool.  Because they've allowed society's narrative to take up camp in their heads.

My job as a pasty bald old fat guy is to hook up with young, 21 year old stunners.  How do I do that?  It's harder than you'd think.  Yet EASIER than you'd think.  It's hard because I can't let the insecurities get into my head.  But it's easy when I realize that I just need to be a pimp, and do my pimp thing, and it works again and again.

I spent the night with a 22 year old fitness trainer last night btw.  Was fun.

Tyler

HeyNigglet Wrote:
Otherwise, it's something that will keep coming up. These trolls that come from red pill forums will keep trolling if you don't . While i know that you've made statements acknowledging it's importance in game, you've never really talked it  with nuance and precision like you have on  many other topics. It's the pink elephant on the fucking couch. I think it's a little disengenuous to market game as something that is something everyone can benefit from to the extent that it will evn be worth their time or efficacious. The 5'0 asian with buck teeth virtually has no chance in getting the abundance that even you  as a balding ginger gets: You still have to novelty and advantage of being white, and you can't really know the full extent of what it's like to not be white. Most white men do not need to learn game but just to be fucking not retarded and not below a 6.  In every single free tour, bootcamp ect, it seems there are a disproportionate amount of non whites that attend . I think the programs should be catered to their needs since they are the ones who need the most help and stop giving the false expectation that game is "mostly" ambiguous and something that everyone can have. I think i can guess why papa  is a businessman and no longer a man.
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newandimproved

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HeyNigglet Wrote:
BlackRubles Wrote:
Tyler has made himself clear on numerous occassions.

As long as your "game" is good enough you can hook up with attractive women.

People say looks matter. Guess what: oxygen matters, water matters....

Everything matters to an extent


Not to the extent in which he has on other topics which are FAR less important than looks or race. Madison already has like three videos on race and he hasn't even been an instructor that long . Currently, game is a cis white male paradigm. This has to change if most people who need "game" are ethnics. I've actually heard of people who's results have gotten worse after gaming.All they really had to do was continue to be white and average while socially savy. Game can make you a fucking weirdo , chilling in the lair with all your pickup hommies , nt getting laid, overthinking it and waiting to get into state and presence lol.


Well then seek out PUAs and mentors of your race who are (rightly) considering that race/looks plays a role in dating. As a black dude, I've found them. And I've also come to make my own conclusions IN FIELD, rather than relying on people like Tyler or Todd to resonate with every single aspect of who I am.  And who says "ethnics" need game the most? Just faulty and distorted logic all around. 
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rsd408

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You hear that AntiCasanova? The disadvantage of being a short Asian manlet is 100% a limiting belief and all in your head! I know a super hot girl who has even fucked a dildo and that’s an inanimate object... you’re a real life human being! Lol
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Been away from this forum for 10 months, and what's the first thread title I see when I login? Never change RSD, never change....
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Tyler

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To be real with you bro, I rarely get any truly ugly students.  And many who have been have still done well.

IMO the ugly thing is more how it affects the person psychologically growing up.  Being short as well.  It can mess with guys heads and cause them to act really creepy.

Generally speaking, most guys are SO FUCKING CREEPY that if you aren't creepy, you have a huge advantage no matter what you look like.

Tyler

WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
Tyler Wrote:
Certainly it's not stopping the guy from having sex with hot girls.

If a 6'4 celebrity jacked stud did the same things would he have an advantage?  Sure.  But it doesn't mean that the short dude can't get hot girls.

What you need to understand about women is they are emotional AF.  Their emotions get the best of them.  They chase validation and approval like you wouldn't remotely understand.  You need to learn to push their buttons.

For example, many of the hottest women I know have fucked lesbian fat butchy women.

So are you telling me if a short, butchy lesbian with no penis at all can seduce a Playmate, a short asian dude can't?  NO DUDE.  Limiting belief 100%.

The challenge with not being the stereotypical attractive guy is it GETS IN YOUR HEAD.  Most short dudes, for example, are insecure and weird.  I rarely see them being smooth of cool.  Because they've allowed society's narrative to take up camp in their heads.

My job as a pasty bald old fat guy is to hook up with young, 21 year old stunners.  How do I do that?  It's harder than you'd think.  Yet EASIER than you'd think.  It's hard because I can't let the insecurities get into my head.  But it's easy when I realize that I just need to be a pimp, and do my pimp thing, and it works again and again.

I spent the night with a 22 year old fitness trainer last night btw.  Was fun.

Tyler


You're DOWNPLAYING the extent of the advantage by even using the word "advantage"...

Advantage implies that you still have to do things but it's just easier. When actually, you can just be completely normal-yet-hot and pull very easily, and not bother about insta-rejections so much either. It's easier to be normal than to have to actually use autist techniques. Techniques are retarded AS FUCK, using techniques is just compensating because you're lacking in another area: Confidence, level of awkwardness, rapport, dominance... I only included dominance because I'm imagining OMEGA male m'lady friendzoned guys - actually you can be level pegging, it's more natural to be roughly level if you're truly connecting with someone.

Pills will make the average guy better than an instructor even if he's never seen any videos or "studied game". I've used them and literally do not see how it would even be possible to not just hook up with ANYONE you want, it seems impossible.

Unlike Bradicus you're not actually ugly. Every girl I've spoken to says she's fine with a guy so long as he's not ugly. Or some say they have to find the guy attractive but not # put on it (one girl said 10/10s but obviously she's exaggerating).
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Being white= advantage? Ehh, not everywhere. Yeah, whites outnumber every race on the United States and occupies the current standard beauty paradigm (to some, not all) but where I'm from, you would rarely see a white guy with a decdent girlfriend ( I go to Loyola University). A lot of the girls there actually go for minority races, I see the white athletic chicks with blacks and sometimes Asians. I've only seen a few Indian guys with girls outside their race. For me? I prefer beautiful tall black and mexican chicks, and the ones I've met so far have sworn up and down that they've never dated or will never date a white guy. Trick to that is game will change their mind (possibly).
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TheNaturalPath Wrote:
Being white= advantage? Ehh, not everywhere. Yeah, whites outnumber every race on the United States and occupies the current standard beauty paradigm (to some, not all) but where I'm from, you would rarely see a white guy with a decdent girlfriend ( I go to Loyola University). A lot of the girls there actually go for minority races, I see the white athletic chicks with blacks and sometimes Asians. I've only seen a few Indian guys with girls outside their race. For me? I prefer beautiful tall black and mexican chicks, and the ones I've met so far have sworn up and down that they've never dated or will never date a white guy. Trick to that is game will change their mind (possibly).


Loyola U in Chicago?
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