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July 15th, 2018
TYler, what are your current thoughts on the secret society?
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stilloldschool

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to those unfamiliar the secret society is an article written by Tyler Durden. It is one of the most important pickup articles ever written. For whatever reason, it is not stickid here. It's clearly hyperbole, but contains a lot of truth. 

So tyler, what are your current thoughts on the article?

for those interested in reading it, just google tyler durden pua secret society. 
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stilloldschool

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Here's the article


A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.
Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.
Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.
What I’m talking about is the sex secret society – and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.
SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
1) Don’t talk about the secret society.
2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.
3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like “all men are dogs”. Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.
4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.
5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.
6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.
7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.
It’s OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. “It doesn’t count”.
9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.
10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.
WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?
Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:
1) Their own sexual needs.
2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.
3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible (“players”).
The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.
Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.
They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They’re part of the secret society too, so they can’t be left out.
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):
1) If you tell a girl that you’re gay, and that you want to “see what it feels like to be with a girl”, she’ll sleep with you. She won’t insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You’re part of the secret society, where condoms aren’t necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.
2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target “I’m really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight”, she’ll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she’ll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.
3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren’t direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she’ll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she’s looking for a relationship.PUA: “I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life”.. HB: “Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too.”PUA: “Really? Cause to be honest, I’ve always felt like I’m a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won’t cheat.”HB: “I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I’m always loyal.”PUA: “But didn’t you say…”HB: “No, I said nothing.”PUA: “No, you said that you don’t let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want.”HB: “No, I didn’t mean that. I’m not a slut. I have no idea what you’re talking about, I didn’t say that.”
4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you’re a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.
5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They’ll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they’ve fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.
6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn’t like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is “creepy/scary” (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.
THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don’t understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.
Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is “sexual aggression”. They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.
They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread – “this is how to get chicks”.
Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.
What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.
They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.
They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.
They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.
They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won’t be interfered with.
Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.
(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn’t take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don’t need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive – not receptive – so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).
They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).
Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)
Trust = not telegraphing interest
Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she’s ready)
Don’t tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.
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Such an important article 

The three main points to take away from this is

1) Always be spreading the fun/positive emotions
2) Master game styles which aren't overly reliant on physical touch 
3) Be sexually non judgmental 
 
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Galahad

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I think one of the major points of the article, that I got out of it when I read it the first time back in the day while still a noob, was to use and hone the skills that I had instead of going around and discussing the subject. The whole "Secret Society" point of view is a good way of avoiding talking about something that most people do not even have the mental paradigm to be able to process, but will simply reject because it goes against everything they have been taught as good little girls and boys. It's an interesting paradigm to come from, even though the details within the article might not be 100 % true (nor are they meant to be).
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WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
Lmfao this is legitimately fucking retarded and HIGHLY autistic. People literally praise anything Tyler says or does because they have their noses so far up his fucking ass. Ultimate brownnosers. This ginger fuck releases 10 hour tirades about Kobe Bryant and gets infinite likes and "you go Tyler!" comments.

Forever Beast Wrote:
Such an important article 

The three main points to take away from this is

1) Always be spreading the fun/positive emotions
2) Master game styles which aren't overly reliant on physical touch 
3) Be sexually non judgmental 
 


Physical touch is literally the best way to pull someone who's interested in you. Honestly if you're just making friendly chatter and not touching her when it's CLEARLY beyond the feeling out stage, you're moronic. Anyone can tell the signs too, probably even someone on their first night out. Next time I'll try to actually pinpoint the signs, I just feel it by instinct but obviously physical signals are tipping me off... Perhaps it's eye contact, smiling? Will see in 5 weeksish when I next venture out.


Yo, Jimmy, 3 notches down, remember?

Like what does that post even actually say. You disagree with tyler because you think physical touch is an important and you should escalate....?


 
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This article is actually my new holy bible. I've read it before, but I probably dismissed it and didn't read it through.

Wow.

I'm not new, but this just is 100% clarity. I've definitely fucked up some recent relationships that I could've not have if I remembered some of these core principals.

It's spot on too, what a perfect analogy. I've thought a lot about this topic, more like how I personally want to escalate and seduce to be more in line with my own brand.

Sexual receptive as opposed to sexually aggressive? Literally woah. I've been thinking about this a lot, because I've been recently assblasted by the fact that I'm the one who has to initiate always, I feel like sometimes women are supposed to initiate too and it's a sign that they care about you... Again wow. 

Yeah. With one read, it's easy to see a lot of mistakes in my approach. Thanks Tyler.

Such simple things as physically escalate on an emotional spike, even hearing "buying-temperature" being used for the first time in years. Wow. I need to revisit all the old school stuff.
 
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WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
nattehond Wrote:
WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
Lmfao this is legitimately fucking retarded and HIGHLY autistic. People literally praise anything Tyler says or does because they have their noses so far up his fucking ass. Ultimate brownnosers. This ginger fuck releases 10 hour tirades about Kobe Bryant and gets infinite likes and "you go Tyler!" comments.

Forever Beast Wrote:
Such an important article 

The three main points to take away from this is

1) Always be spreading the fun/positive emotions
2) Master game styles which aren't overly reliant on physical touch 
3) Be sexually non judgmental 
 


Physical touch is literally the best way to pull someone who's interested in you. Honestly if you're just making friendly chatter and not touching her when it's CLEARLY beyond the feeling out stage, you're moronic. Anyone can tell the signs too, probably even someone on their first night out. Next time I'll try to actually pinpoint the signs, I just feel it by instinct but obviously physical signals are tipping me off... Perhaps it's eye contact, smiling? Will see in 5 weeksish when I next venture out.


Yo, Jimmy, 3 notches down, remember?

Like what does that post even actually say. You disagree with tyler because you think physical touch is an important and you should escalate....?
 


No that's not it, it's just honestly a wall of autism and it's just not true. There's no "secret societies" rofl, everyone is hooking up with everyone, including me. Wtf "society" am I in? Where's my membership card?

It's literally Tyler being autistic because he's obsessed with Fight Club (hence Tyler Durden) so he's trying to make himself believe he's in some sort of sexual "Fight Club".

Tyler not only overcomplicates everything, but also often goes off on legit 'tismal tirades.


Lol!  It's a metaphor, Silly. 
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WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
nattehond Wrote:
WhatsYourShtoyle Wrote:
Lmfao this is legitimately fucking retarded and HIGHLY autistic. People literally praise anything Tyler says or does because they have their noses so far up his fucking ass. Ultimate brownnosers. This ginger fuck releases 10 hour tirades about Kobe Bryant and gets infinite likes and "you go Tyler!" comments.

Forever Beast Wrote:
Such an important article 

The three main points to take away from this is

1) Always be spreading the fun/positive emotions
2) Master game styles which aren't overly reliant on physical touch 
3) Be sexually non judgmental 
 


Physical touch is literally the best way to pull someone who's interested in you. Honestly if you're just making friendly chatter and not touching her when it's CLEARLY beyond the feeling out stage, you're moronic. Anyone can tell the signs too, probably even someone on their first night out. Next time I'll try to actually pinpoint the signs, I just feel it by instinct but obviously physical signals are tipping me off... Perhaps it's eye contact, smiling? Will see in 5 weeksish when I next venture out.


Yo, Jimmy, 3 notches down, remember?

Like what does that post even actually say. You disagree with tyler because you think physical touch is an important and you should escalate....?
 


No that's not it, it's just honestly a wall of autism and it's just not true. There's no "secret societies" rofl, everyone is hooking up with everyone, including me. Wtf "society" am I in? Where's my membership card?

It's literally Tyler being autistic because he's obsessed with Fight Club (hence Tyler Durden) so he's trying to make himself believe he's in some sort of sexual "Fight Club".

Tyler not only overcomplicates everything, but also often goes off on legit 'tismal tirades.


It's a metaphor for being "in the game". it's 52%, which is all women in the world, and 2% men (guys in the game/gay guys).

he means we're in the secret society right now because we're awared. The rest of his post was incredibly insightful things only players/guys in the game would know about mating psychology.

 
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But consider this, the 95% who have sex lives, 90% of them probably met their partner in a social gathering or at work, somewhere they felt comfortable. They didnt need MASSIVE balls to pull these women. You think cold approaching and picking up a girl in public is easy for most young guys? Successfully? Hell no. If you told a guy to go up to a girl and say some stupid shit he'd easily do it, he knows that stupid shit will end the interaction, it's in having the energy to flow and continue any interaction that makes you a player. The level which you should be aspiring to reach. Not some bitter forum poster. I'm just trying to help a brother out. Ultimately you're the liver of your life. 
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Cool little article I released when I was 22.  It's basically accurate, just dramatic to read, which makes it hit home harder for a lot of guys.

My next video on the release schedule will have a lot of hidden camera to show this.  Super super funny.

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