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December 7th, 2016
Some Girls Will Like You No Matter What.
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Ozzie

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To this day it still blows my mind the fact that you can open a girl and she likes you right off the bat and you haven’t done anything yet. You have a feeling that there is nothing you can do that can screw it up. You can say or do whatever you want and they swallow it like candy.

It goes against any attraction theory or logic that you can come up with. Which brings us to logic vs emotions. The crux of pick up.
When we work with emotions, there is only one thing that needs to happen. A connection. Something clicks and we are in. Nothing clever or important that we say, sometimes nonsensical like “i like bananas” and they want to know your name and start telling you about themselves. They forget to mention they have a boyfriend, etc....
They like you for who you are and there is nothing you can do to change that. Same happens when they don’t like you. Nothing you can do about it either. You can try anything and nothing will happen. This is an uncomfortable truth that most guys don’t want to hear about. They want to believe that they can “create” attraction thru gimmicks, jokes, clever lines or what have you. Yes, you can create giggles when you say something bold or that aims to break social conventions like “i want to fuck the shit out of you” but you wont create the deep seeded ground level core attraction required for a girl to go home with you. Giggles is not attraction. You will see how giggles die down and the girls hit a low very quickly and you kind of “lose” them. Guys also want to believe that they can come back once they have killed the attraction when saying something stupid. This is extremely hard to do. Almost impossible. The odd cases confirm the exception to the rule.
Is there a possibility that there are some girls programmed to like me out there no matter what? Yes. There is.
So why study pick up?
Simple. You need to know what to do when you find those. Not only that, in order to find those girls that like you you need to assume, approach and act as if they liked you already. You need to think they all like you. What if they don’t? Well, it doesn’t really help you to think that way.
Reason why guys struggle the most with belief, not with women. They struggle with the belief that any woman could be attracted to them. That’s the real struggle. Once you internalize that belief, the rest tends to be easy. Or..i must correct myself, simpler. There is nothing easy about this game.
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Synyster

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This is so true. Great job Ozzie on bringing it up. Had something similar happen a few weeks ago.
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Nixation

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They sure will, those sluts
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VikingBlud~

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Liberating, this was the final nail in my "pro-routine self"-coffin.

I'm just gonna admit that the mechanics behind attraction are far beyond my intelligence. Wow my ego could not have handled that a few months back.

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Sexpest

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Ozzie, everything you say man, everything you say, is like gold in word form. You just hit the fucking nail man everytime.
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Ozzie

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improvingame Wrote:
I've had this happen to me before, but I always ended up BLOWING IT. It just took longer to blow it.

I think these kind of chicks our attracted to the mental image they make of you--they are communicating NOT WITH YOU but with the mental labels they put on you (whether they are of attraction or repulsion).

They have an unusually high level of attachment to these labels, so it just takes longer to kill or cause attraction.

How could a chick like you without even assessing you?...30 sec. isn't long enough to assess a guy as he could just be putting up a front


The whys are not of my concern. there could be hundreds of reasons. you honestly will never know why she wanted you. they could be looking for a fling, rebound fuck, open to a new relationship, or simply looking for somebody. as a guy who is out there, this has litttle or no relevance. doesnt help you either to rack your brains about this. i used to interview girls i laid. i gave up interviewing because they honestly dont have an answer that makes sense as to why they went to bed with me or with any guy. it is emotional.

these things kill most of the guys in the field. why, how, who, what if...you are in your head.
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Ozzie Wrote:
The whys are not of my concern. there could be hundreds of reasons. you honestly will never know why she wanted you. they could be looking for a fling, rebound fuck, open to a new relationship, or simply looking for somebody. as a guy who is out there, this has litttle or no relevance. doesnt help you either to rack your brains about this. i used to interview girls i laid. i gave up interviewing because they honestly dont have an answer that makes sense as to why they went to bed with me or with any guy. it is emotional.

these things kill most of the guys in the field. why, how, who, what if...you are in your head.


Ignorance is blizz.

Yeah, women tell you X but respond to Y and then tell you Z for why they did it.

Though it is funny to ask a girl why they hooked up.

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Your "closer, lets do this no matter what" mindset is my kryptonite, and my crack. Fucking necessity to bust my shell.
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sinan

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i respect you ozzie as ive heard about you on the jeffy show etc

however this article was meaningless to me. i will talk to a girl if i want, carry on talking to her if i want, leave if i want, close if i want. nothing else matters.

i think i can understand your point being to stop wondering why, and just let it be, and stop trying to figure things out. thats a decent point. however realised that ages ago, however maybe lots of others didnt

tell me if im not getting the message of this post.
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VikingBlud~

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sinan Wrote:
i respect you ozzie as ive heard about you on the jeffy show etc

however this article was meaningless to me. i will talk to a girl if i want, carry on talking to her if i want, leave if i want, close if i want. nothing else matters.

i think i can understand your point being to stop wondering why, and just let it be, and stop trying to figure things out. thats a decent point. however realised that ages ago, however maybe lots of others didnt

tell me if im not getting the message of this post.


Read it again, there's lots more.

What I got out of it was that you should stop worrying about what to say, do, think etc and just BE. Because women communicate emotionally with you through a lot of different levels you know that words are not that important and can thus enjoy it for what it is, and C.L.O.S.E.

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Hmm..this rarely happens to me. Maybe one in like 30-50 approaches I'll open and immediately the girl will be really friendly, asking questions and talking about herself. She's never all that hot too, it's always a 6, maybe a 7
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Ozzie Wrote:
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Reason why guys struggle the most with belief, not with women. They struggle with the belief that any woman could be attracted to them. That’s the real struggle. Once you internalize that belief, the rest tends to be easy.



Absolutely. I guess somewhere deep down i think "what? this girl could like me? no way! am i sure? why?"

Unless i'm in a relationship, in which case i get the belief pounded into me by my daily reality of being with a girl. Which is of course why you're always better with women while you're seeing someone.
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