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December 10th, 2016
Taking Responsibility For Your Own Success
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Ozzie

Ozzie

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Some of the top comments that i get the most often after first night of BC from guys.
1. “i didn’t think it was so easy to open”
2. “it is easy to talk to people. People talk to you if you behave normally”.
3. “it is easy when you talk about yourself. You feel good and they feel good”
4. “i didn’t believe it would be as easy as talking about myself and then making out with a chick”


Then my next question is “if it was so easy why didn’t you do it before?”.

Top common answer goes along these lines: “i thought i couldn’t do it by myself” “i thought i needed game” “i thought i needed a good opener or a reason to talk to them” “i thought talking about my life was lame and nobody would be interested”...etc.

All these answers go along the lines of “i need something or somebody to tell me what to do or how to do it to do anything”.

Bottom line they were all waiting for some kind of permission from the universe to do these things for them. They needed a coach to tell them to go open a girl. They needed a pick up book to tell them they were good enough to talk to a woman because those books tell you “exactly what to do”. Etc.

Taking responsibility for your own success is scary because you got nobody to blame if you fail. It is all on you but yet the only guys that will experience success in this area are those who take responsibility and stop waiting around for other people to give them permission.

The second reason taking responsibility is scary is because you are going to make mistakes and you are going to be accountable for them. Nobody else. You are going to make scary mistakes and there is nobody to blame but you. You are taking the road less travelled. That scares people. I have news for you. All the guys that had success took that road eventually in their lives.
The third reason you don’t want to take responsibility is there is a chance of failure in this endeavour. You might take action and fail. That hurts. You might turn out to be a failure after all.
This one is easy. In this game, for those who take decisive action for an extended period of time, there is only good things in store for them. I mean, how hard can it be? Talking to some 10 or 20 women every night you go out. Taking one or 2 rejections every night, etc. Ending up with 2 or 3 fuck buddies after a few of months and some scattered lays here and there Can i live with that? hell, yeah. As opposed to staying at home and jerk off to porn or hang out by the bar and not approaching and seeing other guys get the girls. The choice is clear. I will take the road less travelled.
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Machismo

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good stuff, very motivating.
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Ratata

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Which again is why they call it a game: What is a game, but having fun and testing out new tactics? It really isn't about winning. It's about improving and getting good for each set you play.

Ironically, this is why I have opted to not take a BC. I am sure it would be a short-cut, but I also take great pride in doing things my way. Anyhow, I will never achieve mastery until I know how to take each step without the help of others.

Great post!
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Intime

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bootcamp from someone like you is going to be such an eye opener for so many guys.

sometimes no matter how little or much effort they put in after BC, their eyes have already been opened and they will no longer see the same way again.


funnily enough, permission from authority or society will always be one of those things that certain pple need to do even the simplest things.
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Ozzie

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Kebman Wrote:
Which again is why they call it a game: What is a game, but having fun and testing out new tactics? It really isn't about winning. It's about improving and getting good for each set you play.

Ironically, this is why I have opted to not take a BC. I am sure it would be a short-cut, but I also take great pride in doing things my way. Anyhow, I will never achieve mastery until I know how to take each step without the help of others.

Great post!


unfortunately, that's not what i meant with this post.

there is a difference between asking for help and asking for permission to do what you need to do.
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FoodBuddha~

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It's hard for some guys to let go of the comfort they get from all their past pain of "not having women." That's the old me, right there.

It's twisted, fucked up psychological shit, to be comfortable in your own mess.

So the permission you give yourself is around this... how to go out and have fun regardless of the past. Just have fun now, make this experience fun NOW... from that... it's completely easy.

& when you slip out of the "this is fun" mindset, the trick is to find quick ways to go back into it again... soon, you can just turn it on and off at will.
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Dinosaur

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Hey Ozzie you are real man!!!
Go tiger!:D
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Saad

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Haha. Ozzie simplifies the complex like no other.

Guys think that closing is similar to a theme park ride. Where they just strap in and run some routines, and BAM! Chick on their dick!

It takes vulnerability... putting yourself on the line with someone to whom you've opened yourself. Every time you pull. Or don't pull.

Take the risks. Take the responsibility.
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Ratata

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Ozzie Wrote:
unfortunately, that's not what i meant with this post.

there is a difference between asking for help and asking for permission to do what you need to do.


Ah, indeed! :)

And I didn't want to be rude either. It's just the path I've chosen.

See, there are so many things in life that prompt you to ask for permission. Schools for instance. I'm into film, and they have a great film school where I live. But all the time I hear that the only way I can get to make film is to attend a film school. It's like I have to have "permission" from a school, so to speak, in order to make films - which is utterly illogical.

However, I will only be a filmmaker if I actually make film. So, then, that is what I do, on my own terms. It is the same for pickup and seduction. I do it utterly on my own terms, and I love it.

Of course, I know that attending a school will be beneficial in many ways. It's a short cut. And with the documentation I get from a school, I will gain easier acceptance from potential employers. But do I need papers or acceptance if I employ myself? No. Then it will not matter. Then the only thing that matters is what I produce. So of course, I aim for excellence, as I'm sure you do too.

So in other words, I love what you do, and what you bring out to all these people. The value you offer, it is truly great and excellent. There are still a loads of people who don't have the time or energy that I have to see this trough on their own, and they will of course have much more to earn from attending your BC's. But never say never. Maybe I'll still sign up one day too.

Keep it up!
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Ozzie

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Kebman Wrote:
Ah, indeed! :)

And I didn't want to be rude either. It's just the path I've chosen.

See, there are so many things in life that prompt you to ask for permission. Schools for instance. I'm into film, and they have a great film school where I live. But all the time I hear that the only way I can get to make film is to attend a film school. It's like I have to have "permission" from a school, so to speak, in order to make films - which is utterly illogical.

However, I will only be a filmmaker if I actually make film. So, then, that is what I do, on my own terms. It is the same for pickup and seduction. I do it utterly on my own terms, and I love it.

Of course, I know that attending a school will be beneficial in many ways. It's a short cut. And with the documentation I get from a school, I will gain easier acceptance from potential employers. But do I need papers or acceptance if I employ myself? No. Then it will not matter. Then the only thing that matters is what I produce. So of course, I aim for excellence, as I'm sure you do too.

So in other words, I love what you do, and what you bring out to all these people. The value you offer, it is truly great and excellent. There are still a loads of people who don't have the time or energy that I have to see this trough on their own, and they will of course have much more to earn from attending your BC's. But never say never. Maybe I'll still sign up one day too.

Keep it up!


yeah. we all need help at some point. but help will manifest itself when you are ready for receiving it. i know it sounds fruitcake but you will find useful people that will help you accomplish your goals when you are ready. in the beginning i didnt think it was possible, that i was doomed to lone effort and pain. not necessarily. helps appears in many different ways when you are determined.
i personally think that people in forums like this have all the help they are going to need. most fail on the implementing, not on the help. for example, if you post up you might even get tyler to answer your posts here. this is unheard of in any pu forum. a guy who has been everywhere and run more bcs than any live instructor, pitching into your thread. how cool is that for help. and it costs you nothing.
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