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December 10th, 2016
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Phase two. Post bootcamp.

In the lead up to bootcamp, I gave myself a real kick in the ass. Ten months spent dabbling aronud doing fuck all were wasted, and totally eclipsed by two months of going out 5-6 nights a week experiencing crazy high and lows, inconsistent success but all in all a fucking good time.

Read about it here.

In that two months we've starting building a little South East Queensland crew, which is only going to expand.

Then came bootcamp. Read about it here.

Mind explosion.

This thread shall contain stories of my adventure. Epiphanies and crazy nights included. Chode nights and being a will be left out, except when being used to create leverage.

Shoot for the sky.
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In the last few days since my bootcamp, I happened to stumble across a couple of dudes saying that they forgot everything they learned at bootcamp, not applying any of it.

For this reason, I am putting my foot down and saying FUCK THAT. Since the instructors know what they are talking about, I'm going to take it all as gospel and get all the major feedback points down before moving on.

I've managed to recover somewhat since bootcamp and I feel really fucking awesome. Last night was insane. I think one of my biggest sticking points has been this whole self entertainment thing.

Fair enough, you can go and have 'the most boring conversation of your life', but whats the point if it is boring to ME. Yeah I can express my passions, but I prefer doing them to talking about them.

Last night was self entertainment deluxe, combined with this 'being dumb' theory by mister Red Leader.

The first few sets I was in my head big time. I was so nervous going in. Kimbo said it's because of this dumb pimp image you tend to get after bootcamp. You feel like you have something to live up to. The magic words: "laugh at the silly pimp image". After laughing at him, and calling him a fucktard (very similar to my letter to the inner chode), suddenly I didn't have anything to live up to. Admittedly the first few sets were still pretty hard.

A few sets in, I was talking to this cool chick we see out all the time, not hot, and found myself value scanning for sets big time. I thought to myself "NO, FUCK NO, I'm here to have a good time, hang out, vibe, and meet some girls if I feel it is necessary"

The conversation changed, she had my full attention, and I started talking absolute shit in amongst normal vibing. My mind started running wild with the most retarded shit, all hilarious. I would bring it up in convo and we would crack the fuck up.

Then I go talk to the boys, where I usually chode crystallise and value scan the shit out of the place. Not this time. I'm here and having fun with them, fuck everyone else. Oh god, the ZONE this put me in. Self entertainment deluxe.

Bam straight into set, some cute indian/greek girl, and she's giggling her ass off and loving it within 10 seconds. Assertive physical dominance comes out of nowhere. My mind is empty, rambling shit (except for Alex's voice telling me to get the number within the first 5 minutes).

Later on I am fucking around with some empty packets of cigarrettes, and it looks like they will make a cool puppet. I wear them like a sock puppet and open some girl in a high retarded voice with it. "Hello! You look bored! Can't have that! Smile!" I'm grinning like an idiot, and soon so is she. I proceed to bite another girl with it. This shit is cracking me up. Therefore the girls are also having a good time.

Killing it.

Zero thought.

Focus point number one: Self Entertainment

Tonights openers:
"My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard"
The entire chorus to "I don't think you're ready for this jelly"
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KB

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Laugh at that stupid fucking pimp image.

Ahahahahahahahahaha!

Love your work!
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Red Leader

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Mission:

EVERY conversation we start has to be about sex or divert to sex at some point.... it CANNOT be about ANYTHING else, but SEX... doesn't matter if we get blown out or not... who cares.... SEX IS THE WORD!

it's on. This is going to be A) hilarious and B) fun....

I'm going to go a step further and talk about anal sex.

Let's do it. haha.
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I started the night thinking I was going to die. Mega headache, sleepy as hell and sweating like a bitch.

A one hour nanna nap helps, so I head out and meet up with social circle.

Red man arrives and social circle is left. Real slow start, one set here, one there but predominantly choding. I'm busy reationalising that it is because Friday's in the city sucks.

Next venue I sack up and chase a girl down. The room is too loud so I drag her into the next room, plowing like a mo fo. She's from Germany so I just keep crapping on about huge parties over there and my housemate who recently moved there. Next her friends have arrived, 4 males, and I befriend all of them.

The effect this had flipped my night. This was similar to my bootcamp experience in that once momentum was built, AA was out the fucking window. Third venue I go into gamer/cockhead mode and call some girl a bitch, whoops.

Fourth venue, about 6 people on the dance floor, two hotties with four guys dancing on the other side hoping for a piece of action.

Fuck this, going in. Me and J-rad cyclone and get them laughing. Taking her hand, I spin her, and she doesn't let go. I'm pulling her in HARD every time I want to talk to her and she is loving it. I'm noticing is a huge correlation between how much kino I use and how well the sets go.

Dragging her away from the friends, telling her I'm going to set her up with the 50 year old behind me hoping for a piece of ass, and using hyper focus which makes her blow her own friends out when they come over. Love this shit.

As Saad told me, physical channels will ALWAYS override the verbal. Get this shit internalised.

Anyway I go for the number and she doesn't know it and apparently doesn't have her phone, but she rings me with her friends phone and tells me to send a message to it. I say she's drunk and not going to remember me. She gets really serious and promises to.

I'd say flake rate is pretty high, just cause she is going to have to remember to get the number from her friends phone.

Biggest lessons from this night was the building of momentum (keep talking), and physical domination. The city sucked big time in the way of cock ratio and turn out, but we still rocked it.

Oh and Odie nearly got punched by a huge angry husband. I thought it was funny.
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yeah, went back to that girls place.

omg.... she has the most sexiest body.... but, sex didn't happen, she was on her time of the month.

But slept over and pretty much got the best in-bed lap dance of my life....
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Yup last two nights I've been out I've been REAL close to getting my head kicked in. Weird

Funny seeing red nonchalantly walking out of the shop with a box of condoms as soon as the scuffle died down as if nothing had happened shades
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26 May - Momentum and Physical Domination, Again!

Things I have to work on from bootcamp: Physical, leading, self entertaining and giving myself permission.

Picking up K from the bus stop it appears we are in no state to go out. He describes how his anger nimbus is in full effect and I talk about my curl-up-in-a-ball-and-make-it-all-go-away state.

We seem to have a knack for killing this shit within each other. After an hour of story telling and random nonsense, we have a few smouldering coals laid down.

Once again, we are predominantly concerned with self entertainment. Many nights we have taken this shit too seriously, so going out just being idiots and having fun within is some good medicine. I recommend it if you are in the same place we are.

Three or four sets later, momentum has been built. We talk about whatever. Going to Vegas and marrying each other, and making the girls our wedding planner/flower girl, normal vibey stuff (travel, work), whatever. So yeah, apparently you don't need all this game shit. What a relief. No longer do I come home feeling exhausted due to the energy required to hold up awesome fake dominant pimp man deluxe image. Now, naturally dominant cool dude has free reign, so long as I don't slip into gamer mode, which happens every so often.

I don't know if the concept of momentum is all in my head, but maybe talking is just like any other skill where you need to warm it up, gradually pumping your state. No more of this state pumping bullshit which causes epic crashes halfway through the night. I'd rather not put myself through that. Chatting to everyone and self entertainment seems to be key to building this up.

On bootcamp, covering the tonality part of rosetta stone, we learned that the sweet spot is halfway between BR and NR. This is achieved through BR but with a little smirk. It seems this allows you to ask chode questions like 'what do you do' so much more freely.

Tonights entertaining (yet painful) opener:
One guy physically manhandles the other over to a set, saying "hi my friend is shy and wanted to meet you"
This really puts you on the spot, but went suprisingly well, for the most part. I also noticed that when I went in as the guy introducing, my frame was MUCH stronger. Hopefully something I can replicate in the future.

By the end of the night we have met up with J-rad and shift, and clawing is the new goal.

My most notable set was some coast girl where it was just physical dominance, natural vibing and total authenticity. It helps so much when they blow open with a tap tap "hey I wanted to meet you, who are you". All we talked about was work, and how cool some of her jobs were (I honestly thought that). A fair bit of thread cutting was also involved.

Next step is to stay unreactive to unfavourable reactions. Admittedly still hard for me at this point. I also still have to calibrate my physical dominace, but I am going on the assumption that this comes with time and practice, similar to the verbal equivalent.

Goals:
Physical - check
Leading - check (thread cutting)
Self entertaining - check
Giving myself permission - check (75% of the time)
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So I wrote this last night in a pretty angry state. Like I predicted, I feel fine this morning. These ups and downs really can't be good for me. They are starting to get more voilent then my old drunken escapades.

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Oh lord is this shit frustrating.

Thursday night, what else to do but go out. I'm one happy mother fucker after work, smiling at everything and loving my mp3 player. After some netball and a nanna nap, most of the state is gone. Dammit.

K and I head into the porto, its dead. AA is non-existent as I open what I can, and I throw in some physical dominance. K gets amoged by 2 black dudes, one who bathroom pulls some horny hottie within 5 minutes of knowing her. What a mindfuck.

Bouncing to UJ's, we discuss that we have reached a point where we are comfortable doing what used to be so painful to us. The next step is to figure out something to push ourselves even further. Not really sure what that is of yet.

UJ's is kicking, surprisingly, despite the rain and cold. At the bar, I open two hotties, teling them they look fun, fully expecting a big blowout. Boom, they are loving it, but shortly after we find one has a huge bf, who eyed me down big time every time this girl came and re opened me. At one point they are hugging so I think fuck it, and pounce on both of them in a big group hug, swaying them around resulting in screams and giggles. Probably my best set.

K tells me he is having a lot of trouble approaching. He claws some hottie and ends up introed to the group, and hits it off with one girl, who he ends up taking home. One set, one kill.

I realise its solo time and shit myself. I get tired of looking for sets so I take 5 outside. Back in, boom, boom, boom. Short set method. Run into a guy I haven't seen in years. Girl K originally clawed keeps pinging me, and her friend tells me that HBClaw "hasn't had sex in a long time and doesn't want to but I should have a crack". Doh. She looked like she was having a good time with my mate (whos taken and had no intentions), so I puss out. She was even leaving the city the next day, perfect logistics. Typing this hurts. Face palm

I open some 3 set and have 1 isolated in about 10 seconds. Vibe for 5 mins, drag to dance floor. Her friends form a football style huddle. There is no getting in there, so I bail. HBNurse

More short set stuff. I practically know half the people in here now, all on next to no state. I claw in HBNurse and chat about 1 inch from her face. Seems to be the best way to initiate a makeout. Friend comes over, so I move her to a stool, making her stand between my legs. Best position ever. Her friend comes over after the guy she was with fucks up big time. Nurse has to bathroom, and says to meet back in 5. I didn't wait, but I later saw her friend had dragged her to the bar anyway.

Back to HBClaw, she pings me more, gagging for attention. I only realise how big this was now. Fuck.

The girl with the boyfriend from the beginning made a comment that sounded like she wanted to set me up with her friend, which I didn't click on until it was too late. Double fuck.

I end up getting blown out of some sets after a creepy guy starts hanging off my back as I go in. Eventually I see him start hitting on HBNurse. I see claw girl leave.

I'm the fuck out of there. Frustration kicking in big time. Another good night spent leaving alone.

I drive home to some really fucking angry music. Anger nimbus smoldering.

As I pulled in the driveway I realised that I really don't know what I want from this. Sometimes it feels like the only reason I want to get laid is so that I have something to show for all this work. That's fucked. It seems to be my metric for how far I've come, and at the moment it's not registering. No new girls for a while now.

The TV isn't mine so I couldn't throw it out the window. The window isn't mine either.

Alright, sleep time. I'll be back to happy mode in the morning.

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Positives
Lots of sets
A few blow outs
Continuing on despite shit state
I'd say comfort zone was actually pushed, due to the state thing

Physical: Check
Leading: Check
Self-entertainment: Nope, not really
Giving myself permission: Check
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Igs

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Join Date: 05/29/2008 | Posts: 3

sounds like quite the wild night..
and a good learning experience ('what do i want from this?')
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KB

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Dude, even whilst fucked up, you seemed to be RELENTLESS once I left.

Perseverance is the difference between those who fuck around in field and those who fuck some glitterbomb they pulled at 3am after getting blown out 25 times.

I think last night was very beneficial for you.
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