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December 8th, 2016
Be Dumb Be Pulled
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Red Leader

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There's a trend amongst guys who go out consistently night after night and don't get results consistently.

They get stuck in their head.

Logic kicks in and functioning as a socially lubricated human being ceases.

It's time to Dumb down our logical brains...



Back when I was a kid...

Back when I was in grade 8, I was a popular little kiddie. Most of high school was ok for me. I had fun.

Grade 8; I had an awesome little group of friends and we dominated our classes.

I had a 'thing', where i kind of acted dumb a lot of the time. It used to get me MASSIVE amounts of attention.

A lot of it was a little negative, but on the whole it was positive.

Girls were in to me.

I had a flow happening. WE were the in crowd.

People wanted to know what we had been up to and what we were talking about when we started laughing in the middle of class.

I didn't know why I got the attention I did, but I stood out when I acted dumb.

I was actually kind of just addicted to positive attention in year 8 yet couldn't always handle the negative due to a weak frame/reality on life.




"What does this have to do with game and getting good?"

It’s a weird concept isn’t it? Being dumb to ‘get’ girls. I mean shouldn’t you be smart and alert to know when to dhv, spike her ioi or some other acronym you should be watching out for?

No.

Being 'dumb' is not really the key.

The act of being dumb WILL however completely disengage your logical brain. My frame is pretty solid now so success has been pretty phenomenal.

It's the 'slow' kind of dumb as opposed to the stupid kind...

It helps things flow.

It helps you to slow everything down.

To slow your mind down.

To help you think in a way that isn't clogged.

To help you become clear.

You can still BE smart. But you don't have to think.

In fact the idea is to NOT think....

when you find yourself totally racing in "what should i do?" type of thoughts...

try and act DUMB... Almost shut down your brain... hit the kill switch.

Any thinking is bad thinking.

You'll find this will breed a happy feeling and you'll start actioning and doing things without even thinking about it.

Like, you'll be just talking to a supre hot girl, she'll be rubbing against you and you wouldn't have even 'remembered' to get AA, you'd just be in there.

This opens a MASSIVE gateway into an emotional world of glory fun times.

IT brings you into a state of being TOTALLY in the now.

Similar reason as to why girls act dumb... however... again, it's not about being 'dumb'. It's about opening the emotional lobe and setting it on full flow.




"What is game like when you're in this state?"

Living in the now enables you to get in this emotional flow and shut off logic.

It's great.

Your voice becomes super slow yet you also become very articulated.

You can compliment the most complimented on things by guys and girls will be really appreciative you noticed...

"you have nice hair" or

"you have nice skin"

and the weird thing is you also point out all the things they want you to point out without realising it...

they just come into your head and you bring it up without thinking about it.

More importantly makes it 100x easier to give off a non-creepy sexual vibe.

There is no need to play any tactics, teasing games or ‘run’ any attraction ‘material’.

You are essentially carving AWAY insecurities, unnecessary thoughts and societal programming.

You’re going on instinct and a 'self amusement' kind of desire.

This is all inbuilt and WIRED into our gene code.

We have evolved to be able to figure this out.

We’ve collected enough junk to become a stunned mullet deep in contemplation (or constipation) of his next move.

Figuring out requires letting go.

Letting go of that Logic.

Being dumb, you become reaction-less.

You just don't have the mind power nor care factor to react. Only what’s deemed necessary.

You'll see girls shit tests and you'll just look at them with a completely non-judgemental blank face.

They'll try cover it up and act like nothing happened, but this just solidifies you're a man of total non reactivity…

to bullshit.





"Won't people think you're dumb?"

No. If you have a strong reality, you will impose to people that you're awesome. It's not about being dumb, or stupid. So please don't do that.

It's about a gateway to disengage logic and start having fun.




"I find when I try it, I just act stupid and immature"

This is not about acting silly or weird. It's about a state and cutting down on unnecessary thought process. I'm associating 'dumb' with lower thought processes.

I was able to get there pretty easily by shutting off my logic.

Being slow and in state won't even mean you're not a man who takes care of his group.

You are.

You are also totally free to misinterpret and assume whatever you like.

You can just get to a stage where you'll have nothing left to say but, "wanna make out?" and the next thing you'll hear is, "well maybe if you sat a bit closer."




Who else is like this and pulls consistently?

I met a natural last night, I had heard about him a few years ago through a friend.

He's pretty slow and got expelled from his school.

However he had HOT girls coming up to him.

You could SEE they really wanted him.

I think they wanted to take advantage of his lack of logical thought...

He actually has a reputation for being dumb or 'slow' and I've realized girls LOVE to take advantage of that.

He's quite slow, BUT not in a 'dumb' way. He's cool, calm and collected. He vibes with girls EASILY.

Telling me about his relationship dramas when he was fucking two girls who were friends with each other, he said,

"I'd be talking to them on msn and one would ask me, "did you fuck christy?" and I'd be like, "no fucking way!" then christie would talk to me like 5 seconds later and say, "did you tell sarah we slept together? because i just told her we did." and I'd be like, "what? no!" then it'd go back and forth. I mean I'm just trying to be friends with everyone here and shit would happen so I'd just sign out."

He was looking at the situation in a logical sense and he couldn't make ANY sense of it.

The underlying message was, "it's so funny how i can get what i want when I don't understand shit about them." I was just like.

Yep, I know. :)

He's a total natural with almost zero logical brain but a totally intelligent emotional brain.



"I need more examples"

I've been doing this on the dance floor with ridiculous results. Combining it with picking up her hand and slowly whispering sweet and sensual compliments really slowly into her ear creating a chemical fusion of knowing it's on!

Things like,

"you're absolutely gorgeous/adorable."

"I like your dress."

"you smell fan tas tic."

All said SLOWLY while holding her hands and as if that's the only thing on my mind... no alterior motives what so ever.

No EGO detected.

Seconds next, make out ensues. There is no thought process going on in my head to do it. It's all feeling and nimbus.



How do you get to this stage?

Just try acting dumb.

This might make people feel a bit vulnerable or whatever, I'm not sure.

I can't quite explain it myself, but it's kind of dumbing yourself down so you stop thinking logical stuff.

I have a friend who can be SUCH a logical guy that sometimes when he makes a joke, no one gets it because he's so out of touch (feeling) with the group he'll have to sit there explaining the semantics of how the joke is funny...

That's holding on, you gotta let go.




"What made you come to these ideas?"

I wanted more and more to not have to think and then paralyse myself with thought... to be 100% confident when I saw a girl I liked....

It's just a tool to open a gateway into nimbus state deluxe.






Final Observations

Be dumb Be pulled home by the girl.

It's a womens fantasy to get with a guy who doesn't really think in any other period than the 'now', who can keep a secret even if she tells other girls about them together, who is totally logic free and emotionally present and who isn't immature or weird.

It's a guys fantasy to be this guy while not having to know anything about girls....

This is one of the best metaphors I use to enter 100% natural game as I go about it.

"No bullshit, no tactics, just straight in there, make a girl feel really sexy, have great fun with her, be cool, go back to your/her place and do the hunka-chunka. Problem solved.

This isn't about tricking girls into stuff, or playing them. If you try that, you'll fail, and I will personally batter you senseless with your own shoes.

This is about refusing to be a leaf in the hurricane.

This is about being the hurricane, gentlemen.

Be the fucking hurricane." - Ciaran
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You're right. Acting like an idiot is my magic pill.
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AWESOME post.
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Thanks man.
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wow... this was amazing. Thanks.
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Ah, dude this came at the perfect time.
Friday night I went out with a note in my pocket "SLOW THE FUCK DOWN"
It's the first time I've tried that and it kind of worked.
I totally agree with this.

How does this compare to a 'high energy' state. Can you be 'dumb' and slow down and still have the high energy vibe? Its something I am trying to accomplish but its almost as if its two completely different states and you should just choose one. The result is I constantly alternate between high energy and laid back on consecutive nights. Whats your take.
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This is where I have the most problems. I can't stop thinking logically. I have very little ego except when it comes to my intellegence. I feel like this is what is holding me back from having massive success with women. I try to just let go but when I do I come across as "dancing monkey" and I just need become the "sexworthy guy".

What would you say is the best way to just Let go of logic and engage the emotional side of your brain? To be free and live in the moment.
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Xero0000 Wrote:
This is where I have the most problems. I can't stop thinking logically. I have very little ego except when it comes to my intellegence. I feel like this is what is holding me back from having massive success with women. I try to just let go but when I do I come across as "dancing monkey" and I just need become the "sexworthy guy".

What would you say is the best way to just Let go of logic and engage the emotional side of your brain? To be free and live in the moment.


When I'm really present and centered, I go into a fun mental state I call being "Fresh-Eyed." The world is constantly new and exciting, even though I've seen stuff like it before. The best way I can describe Fresh Eyes is that I'm part eight-year-old. (Minus the fart jokes.) Everything is cool, because it's just more opportunity to play. USED SPARINGLY, this is good conversation fodder in itself.

Approaching: "Oh my god, you guys are here!"
Random humor: "I bet puppies love you. You're like Snausage."
Sharing conspiracy: "That chick over there is jealous of you. Be careful because she could totally beat you up." Or "We could be a superhero team! But you have to be the sidekick, and my utility belt is better."

Again, don't ride this vibe exclusively.

The best way to get Fresh Eyes for me is meditation. I also used to do some affirmations in the mirror, but have pared that down. Now after I shave, I just look at my face and watch the kid smile creep up. The affirmations are burned in already.
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Red Leader

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ThePyromaniac Wrote:
Ah, dude this came at the perfect time.
Friday night I went out with a note in my pocket "SLOW THE FUCK DOWN"
It's the first time I've tried that and it kind of worked.
I totally agree with this.

How does this compare to a 'high energy' state. Can you be 'dumb' and slow down and still have the high energy vibe? Its something I am trying to accomplish but its almost as if its two completely different states and you should just choose one. The result is I constantly alternate between high energy and laid back on consecutive nights. Whats your take.


Good question.

yes you can be high energy and still be slow.

The idea is to stop your head being filled with questions and unnecessary thoughts that stop you from acting, or for a better word when you're in state, flowing.

I don't think everyone will understand this thread because it's a word that everyone has slight variation in meaning.

It's not about being an idiot or a clumsy drunk.

It's not about doing the wrong thing to try and get attention and hopefully it will get the opposite effect.

It's not about ignoring the rules of social dynamics.

No one is above them.

It's about living in the now, removing your inner chode that asks you "how do i talk to her?" when she's right in front of you...

like

is the answer not the simplest in the world?

Dumb people don't have to ask those things... Just go over and flap your trap.

Slow minds don't think that far into the future. They're present, tuned in and emotionally present in the situation.

The logical brain is turned off.

For me, the word 'dumb' is just associated with slow talking and simple-ness.

Guess what game should comprise of?

slow talking, happy state and simple-ness... hooking up should be simple as pie.

And it really is when you're in this state.

The good thing about this is that it totally enhances nimbus.

It's like your nimbus being on full volume.
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That was great! It's like you filled the missing piece of my state-puzzle, thank you:)
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Red Leader

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Xero0000 Wrote:
This is where I have the most problems. I can't stop thinking logically. I have very little ego except when it comes to my intellegence. I feel like this is what is holding me back from having massive success with women. I try to just let go but when I do I come across as "dancing monkey" and I just need become the "sexworthy guy".

What would you say is the best way to just Let go of logic and engage the emotional side of your brain? To be free and live in the moment.


Yeah, a lot of people in this community REALLY pride themselves on being able to 'work this out'...

There are MASSIVE egos attached to that.

No one wants to be called dumb with girls. - they associate that with bad.

But funnily enough, you can still be dumb with girls and still have them all over you. Not your fault if you're super attractive.

I was asking a famous Australian cricketer some advice on girls and he said to me, "mate, I know NOTHING about women." while he had girls all over him.

I think the best way is to pretend you're an actor, almost stop being yourself for a moment and be a dumb slow dummy...

just to try it out...

see what it FEELS like...

see if it gets you into state.

Don't think about approaching...

think about nothing...

laugh, have fun, just go up to girls you like and say, "woah, you have a really nice dress." - SUPER SLOW

and don't say the word 'hey'. you're not trying to get their attention...

;)
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