THE FORUMS
April 30, 08
2 sets and 2 wings.
Well not much to talk about here. Last night was a bitch. Really not in the mood to approach like a machine.
I started by winging my buddy's first set of the night. Realized I was gaming his girl so I backed off. She was cute though.
1st set. One guy had already opened and was talking to one of them. I open the other chick that was totally bored.
I winged my buddy. Plowed but felt like I was losing her and making a fool outta myself.
2nd set. 2 girls. Totally bored. I talked a bit but never really "went for it". Felt tired and lazy.
From then on I wandered the club. But never really felt like opening. Actually I was trying to get approached. Something that still seems way out of my reach.
Mental notes:
Maybe I went too low energy last night. Trying to show big time indifference by looking around and putting my hand in my pockets at times.
I think working the "indifference" angle is not going to make me improve my game at this point. My major sticking point is that I don't escalate, so by "acting" indifferent, I'm definitely going nowhere. I'm such an idiot.
2 sets and 2 wings.
Well not much to talk about here. Last night was a bitch. Really not in the mood to approach like a machine.
I started by winging my buddy's first set of the night. Realized I was gaming his girl so I backed off. She was cute though.
1st set. One guy had already opened and was talking to one of them. I open the other chick that was totally bored.
I winged my buddy. Plowed but felt like I was losing her and making a fool outta myself.
2nd set. 2 girls. Totally bored. I talked a bit but never really "went for it". Felt tired and lazy.
From then on I wandered the club. But never really felt like opening. Actually I was trying to get approached. Something that still seems way out of my reach.
Mental notes:
Maybe I went too low energy last night. Trying to show big time indifference by looking around and putting my hand in my pockets at times.
I think working the "indifference" angle is not going to make me improve my game at this point. My major sticking point is that I don't escalate, so by "acting" indifferent, I'm definitely going nowhere. I'm such an idiot.
May 2, 08
What's up guys. ;)
Well, I got together with 2 of my friends. We went to a club I had never been to. A little too ghetto for my taste. Anyways, here's the usual breakdown of the night. (3 sets)
1st set. 2 girls part of a bigger group of about 4 or 5 girls.
I used a canned opener. I know, I know. You'll rarely find me using canned stuff. But nothing else occured to me at the moment so I just went for it.
The rest of the girls came back and kinda lingered around for a bit.
I tried stayin' in there long enough, but ended up ejecting.
2nd set. 5 girls. Surounded by chodes dying to approach. I walked up. Can't remember what I said to open. My objective was to just stay in there for as long as possible. I worked the weakest link. The leader came up, got up in my face. Said, "I think you need to buy her a drink". I ignore her at first. Cold read the weakest link and her friend. I say, "maybe I shouldn't tell you what I notice" to try to get her to chase me. Then I meet some of them and add, "she must be the leader" pointing to the chick that had nagged me trice already about the drink thing. She hated the leader comment. I knew for sure she was the alpha-female of the group at that point. I demonstrated a lot of unreactivity and indifference by looking away, leaning away, and hands in pockets. It totally worked. Before I know it I'm talking with the alpha chick for 30 or 40 mins. I wasn't really interested in her but her friend that stayed around.
More stuff happened. They left.
3rd set. 1 chick. By herself. I open w "Quick question". Not even looking at her but at the stage. "Which one of these 2 go-go dancers dances better ?" She laughs. Bla bla bla. Some convo. Fail to escalate. Miss my chance. Qualify her. Really sloppy. She's gone.
I then go back to alpha-female group. Talk about politics. #close her friend and leave with my buddies.
Mental notes:
Well, I don't know what it's going to take for me to actually sexually escalate the goddamn interaction. But I'm definitely not approaching enough with the "fuck it" attitude. I'm playing too relaxed and chill all the time. Take more chances !
Although it does have a positive feel to it. Because I do want to be selective and I do enjoy just talking to chicks. So it's not all bad.
I've been looking over some qualification techniques here and there. Applied them tonight, but did a really sloppy job. I'm not used to qualifying at all. And it shows. :p
Overall, felt pretty good. At the beginning of the night felt kinda down.
Still working on my low energy vibe. The so-called "walking under water" feeling I want to work on. I think I'm just going to fuck it and not worry so much about energy levels. It's an endless cycle of overthinking.
Thanks for reading.
What's up guys. ;)
Well, I got together with 2 of my friends. We went to a club I had never been to. A little too ghetto for my taste. Anyways, here's the usual breakdown of the night. (3 sets)
1st set. 2 girls part of a bigger group of about 4 or 5 girls.
I used a canned opener. I know, I know. You'll rarely find me using canned stuff. But nothing else occured to me at the moment so I just went for it.
The rest of the girls came back and kinda lingered around for a bit.
I tried stayin' in there long enough, but ended up ejecting.
2nd set. 5 girls. Surounded by chodes dying to approach. I walked up. Can't remember what I said to open. My objective was to just stay in there for as long as possible. I worked the weakest link. The leader came up, got up in my face. Said, "I think you need to buy her a drink". I ignore her at first. Cold read the weakest link and her friend. I say, "maybe I shouldn't tell you what I notice" to try to get her to chase me. Then I meet some of them and add, "she must be the leader" pointing to the chick that had nagged me trice already about the drink thing. She hated the leader comment. I knew for sure she was the alpha-female of the group at that point. I demonstrated a lot of unreactivity and indifference by looking away, leaning away, and hands in pockets. It totally worked. Before I know it I'm talking with the alpha chick for 30 or 40 mins. I wasn't really interested in her but her friend that stayed around.
More stuff happened. They left.
3rd set. 1 chick. By herself. I open w "Quick question". Not even looking at her but at the stage. "Which one of these 2 go-go dancers dances better ?" She laughs. Bla bla bla. Some convo. Fail to escalate. Miss my chance. Qualify her. Really sloppy. She's gone.
I then go back to alpha-female group. Talk about politics. #close her friend and leave with my buddies.
Mental notes:
Well, I don't know what it's going to take for me to actually sexually escalate the goddamn interaction. But I'm definitely not approaching enough with the "fuck it" attitude. I'm playing too relaxed and chill all the time. Take more chances !
Although it does have a positive feel to it. Because I do want to be selective and I do enjoy just talking to chicks. So it's not all bad.
I've been looking over some qualification techniques here and there. Applied them tonight, but did a really sloppy job. I'm not used to qualifying at all. And it shows. :p
Overall, felt pretty good. At the beginning of the night felt kinda down.
Still working on my low energy vibe. The so-called "walking under water" feeling I want to work on. I think I'm just going to fuck it and not worry so much about energy levels. It's an endless cycle of overthinking.
Thanks for reading.
May 3, 08
Wow
What a great weekend.
Lot of info. Great stuff.
Definitely noticed some improvements (BL, tonality, state, attitude).
I'd like to give thanks To Junior Spesh. I read some of his advice he gave on tonality on LawsonButcher's journal. And some other of his stuff really helped. So thanks.
Ok. So here's the blow-by blow of the night:
(5 sets)
1st set. Mixed 3 set sitting down on couch. I role up introduce myself and sit down immediately at an angle. I don't seek a whole lot of EC. She was portuguese but we spoke in french because she didn't speak spanish. My convo wasn't good. I wasn't transmitting enough emotion.
2nd set. 4 set mixed. I open the girl I like by pulling her out to the dance floor. Dance with her a bit. We chat. I compliment her hairstyle. My friend comes in and I introduce. Man, I really don't work well with wings :D . I screw up the set. The girl thought I was making fun of her with my friend. I try to rescue the situation. But I knew by then I was fucked.
3rd set. 2 girls on couch. 2 guys were sitting next to us. We started talking with these idiots. And they were choading about thinking about openning the girls next to us. I immediately get up and open them. Italian chicks. My buddy is interested in one of them. I could care less. Not really into italian birds.
My buddy spills the chode's drink. He buys him a new one. After 10 mins. and everything is back to normal. I re-open this set. Only because my buddy likes one of them. His girl closes down. I lose interest.
4th set. 2 turbo girls sitting in chairs. This is a continuation from the previous set. The chode was being an idiot. Snapping his fingers at one of them, then hidding. I immediately get up and over there to meet them. Man, they're hot ! :D Especially the brunette. Turns out they work there. They were really sweet nonetheless. My buddy roles up. We're there talking having a good time. But then the chodes come in too. Leeching the energy off our set. I tried to move them but reacted way too late.
5th set. Older women sitting at a table. I open and things go great. Since I didn't have a chair to sit. I try to move them to a couch. One of them shows a lot interest in me. And I isolate her. We talk. Actually, she pretty much interviews me. Question train. Funny. I show her some basic tango. I # close.
Go down stairs wanting to approach more. Felt tired, so didn't do anything else. Talked to 3 girls that opened me up. Circumstantial so doesn't count as an approach.
I left. My buddy scored. And I kiss closed the girl I # closed. (We met later and walking towards the car, she isolates me from her group of friends and k-closes me). I felt I had been gamed by this large breasted, hot body, 33 year-old. I love this game.
Observations:
Great stuff overall. Noticed something really important:
I really can't put it in words, but when I approach or do anything with a girl with a sense of eagerness, shit doesn't work.
Eagerness might not be the word. But It's a sense of wanting something to happen from the girl. It's like "taking", on a very subconscious level.
Wow
What a great weekend.
Lot of info. Great stuff.
Definitely noticed some improvements (BL, tonality, state, attitude).
I'd like to give thanks To Junior Spesh. I read some of his advice he gave on tonality on LawsonButcher's journal. And some other of his stuff really helped. So thanks.
Ok. So here's the blow-by blow of the night:
(5 sets)
1st set. Mixed 3 set sitting down on couch. I role up introduce myself and sit down immediately at an angle. I don't seek a whole lot of EC. She was portuguese but we spoke in french because she didn't speak spanish. My convo wasn't good. I wasn't transmitting enough emotion.
2nd set. 4 set mixed. I open the girl I like by pulling her out to the dance floor. Dance with her a bit. We chat. I compliment her hairstyle. My friend comes in and I introduce. Man, I really don't work well with wings :D . I screw up the set. The girl thought I was making fun of her with my friend. I try to rescue the situation. But I knew by then I was fucked.
3rd set. 2 girls on couch. 2 guys were sitting next to us. We started talking with these idiots. And they were choading about thinking about openning the girls next to us. I immediately get up and open them. Italian chicks. My buddy is interested in one of them. I could care less. Not really into italian birds.
My buddy spills the chode's drink. He buys him a new one. After 10 mins. and everything is back to normal. I re-open this set. Only because my buddy likes one of them. His girl closes down. I lose interest.
4th set. 2 turbo girls sitting in chairs. This is a continuation from the previous set. The chode was being an idiot. Snapping his fingers at one of them, then hidding. I immediately get up and over there to meet them. Man, they're hot ! :D Especially the brunette. Turns out they work there. They were really sweet nonetheless. My buddy roles up. We're there talking having a good time. But then the chodes come in too. Leeching the energy off our set. I tried to move them but reacted way too late.
5th set. Older women sitting at a table. I open and things go great. Since I didn't have a chair to sit. I try to move them to a couch. One of them shows a lot interest in me. And I isolate her. We talk. Actually, she pretty much interviews me. Question train. Funny. I show her some basic tango. I # close.
Go down stairs wanting to approach more. Felt tired, so didn't do anything else. Talked to 3 girls that opened me up. Circumstantial so doesn't count as an approach.
I left. My buddy scored. And I kiss closed the girl I # closed. (We met later and walking towards the car, she isolates me from her group of friends and k-closes me). I felt I had been gamed by this large breasted, hot body, 33 year-old. I love this game.
Observations:
Great stuff overall. Noticed something really important:
I really can't put it in words, but when I approach or do anything with a girl with a sense of eagerness, shit doesn't work.
Eagerness might not be the word. But It's a sense of wanting something to happen from the girl. It's like "taking", on a very subconscious level.
May 8, 08
Hey guys,
went out tonight. Did 3 sets. Props to my buddy on k-closing a chick on the street under 10 mins. Crazy stuff.
I wanted to work on moving chicks and being physically dominant.
My game plan is simple: Open, chat a bit, move to dance floor, move to bar. I had to move the girl or entire set within 5 to 10 mins max.
1st set. 2 older chicks. Moved to dance floor. Moved back.
2nd set. Mixed (2 girls, one couple). Opens great. bla bla bla. My buddy roles in. His girl wasn't responding. Mine was going great. I cold read with horoscope. Boom ! I guess it right on the first try. :D
I try to move set. No go.
3rd set. 2 girls. Open. Indifference move(turn BL away, hand in pocket). Rip her drink outta her hand. Dance a bit. Blow her off. Move back to 1st set.
Re-open first set. Just dragged her out to the dance floor. Busted some moves.
Observations:
When walking to the club/bar, I wasn't feeling that into it. Once I got there though, things changed. Isn't the first time I had that weird feeling.
Starting to feel more dominant by moving the girls around.
I also noticed that when I approach, I'm opening with a more decisive and yet flexible way. Actually, when I'm opening I'm usually thinking something like, "You better not give me any shit". I'm also shifting my body away from her a lot quicker than before. I'm not really smiling a lot when opening. But it's still working.
Hey guys,
went out tonight. Did 3 sets. Props to my buddy on k-closing a chick on the street under 10 mins. Crazy stuff.
I wanted to work on moving chicks and being physically dominant.
My game plan is simple: Open, chat a bit, move to dance floor, move to bar. I had to move the girl or entire set within 5 to 10 mins max.
1st set. 2 older chicks. Moved to dance floor. Moved back.
2nd set. Mixed (2 girls, one couple). Opens great. bla bla bla. My buddy roles in. His girl wasn't responding. Mine was going great. I cold read with horoscope. Boom ! I guess it right on the first try. :D
I try to move set. No go.
3rd set. 2 girls. Open. Indifference move(turn BL away, hand in pocket). Rip her drink outta her hand. Dance a bit. Blow her off. Move back to 1st set.
Re-open first set. Just dragged her out to the dance floor. Busted some moves.
Observations:
When walking to the club/bar, I wasn't feeling that into it. Once I got there though, things changed. Isn't the first time I had that weird feeling.
Starting to feel more dominant by moving the girls around.
I also noticed that when I approach, I'm opening with a more decisive and yet flexible way. Actually, when I'm opening I'm usually thinking something like, "You better not give me any shit". I'm also shifting my body away from her a lot quicker than before. I'm not really smiling a lot when opening. But it's still working.
2 cities, 3 days...39 appproaches.
My buddy and I went up to Salamanca for 2 days. Had a pretty good time.
Came back, and went out again.
I got a lot more approaches under my belt, but I also had my jacket stolen right under my nose, while I was gaming.
Here's what happened. Just the facts...
Enjoy. :)
May 15, 08
17 sets. First night in Salamanca. Big college town. We went to 5 or maybe 6 different bars.
-1 set. 2 Girls. Open well, talk a bit. Joke around. They think I'm drunk. One of 'em gives me shit. I pull a chode into the set. I eject.
-2 set. Gogo dancers resting. Indirect. Ask some fictitious question. Their attitude's shit. I leave.
-4 set mixed. Indirect. Ask where's a cool club. Transition with "where are they from". Chick I liked looked cuter from afar.
-2 set. German chicks. As soon as I walk into new bar, I grab her, pull her out to dance. Stop. Chat. Dance again. Move her. Dance and escalate. Grinded. Kissed her all over, except for lips. I don't think she liked it. She wanted to leave, making up some excuse. She wasn't bitchy, but cold.
-2 set. Old couple. I wanted to dance with this older(i mean real old :D ) lady. I re-opened this set. Felt good to keep trying. Her husband was trying to outsmart me.
-2 set. Couple. I walk and say: "Are you guys boyfriend and girlfriend ?"
He says yes. she says no. Hilarious. I stay in a little bit.
-3 set. This was a group my buddy opened earlier in another place. I dance with them. Joke.
-1 set. Actually this chick was really hot. And she had an orbiter next to her who left momentarily. Cool chick. I moved her so easily I was kinda shocked. We have nothing in common really. Takes forever to find common ground. I lost interest. Orbiter comes in. He's super loud. I try to "out-loud" him. No problem. He's cool.
-5 set. Direct. I tell her I think she's pretty. She introduces herself and her friends. I leave. Looked cuter from afar.
-2 set polish chicks. Few laughs. Set stalls
-6 set. Dutch black chicks. They took over the dance floor earlier. Saw my chance to open and did it.
-3 set. Direct. New venue. Tough. My buddy at this point was way too tired. Went straight up. She has bf.
-4 set. Direct. I open w, "Have we met...?" Introduce. Friend interupts. She reaches down to grab some shit from her bag. I leave.
-4 set. Fat and uglies. Lasts less than a min.
-4 set. Talk to one chick. Mexican. Normal chit chat.
-2 set. Sitting. At first ignores me by whispering into friend's ear. I pull her away. She gets up. I see how ugly she is. I leave.
-1 set. Chick by herself. Made awesome EC with her before. Best chick of the whole night. Tried to move her to the dancefloor. No dice. Got awesome attraction, though.
May 16, 08
6 sets. Much better night. I enjoyed myself so much more.
-3 set. Mixed. I just pulled a girl out to dance. Grinded a bit. Chatted a bit. Fizzled.
-2 set. Mom and daughter at a bar. I open. Before I finish my opener, old mom jumps up and says, "Ok. I'll try". I'm like, whatever. I pull her out to the middle of the dancefloor. She sucks.
-2 set. Really rough opening. She blocks up. I manage to turn it around. Later, I bet and win a beer from her. Sweet :) Do well in this one. I get them to do most of the talking.
-2 set. Mature women. One was really sexy. Do well. Fizzles.
[This was when I discover my jacket was stolen. I get angry.
I really like that jacket, too]
-2 set. Bored chicks at bar celebrating b-day. I do well. Leave.
-3 set. Older chicks. Don't have much written in my note pad about this one...
May 17, 08
16 sets. Big club. This one isn't in chronological order
-3 set. 1 fat + 2 hot. Indirect. Ask some shit about music. Nothing.
-6 set. Direct. Blonde bombshell. Easily an 8. I open by teasing. Instant attraction.
-2 set. Try to hold the EC on opening. Didn't do it right.
-3 set. Mixed. Old. Tried to hold EC before speaking. Nothing.
-2 set. Did well. I danced salsa with both at the same time.
-2 set. Older women. I self-amuse or try to at least. I tell her I want to buy a house in some exotic country...like Nepal.
-2 set. Sitting. Boring ! They worked there. Fizzled.
-3 set. Focus on one. Pretty chick. Fizzles.
-2 set. French girls. Did well. Moved one to dance floor. Fizzled.
-4 set. Mixed. Hot chick + Bf. I try to dance with her. Her bf says no. I ask, "are you her bodyguard ?". Danced with her friend, though.
-3 set. Tough chicks. Fizzles fast.
-2 set. Indirect. Opinion opener, made up on the spot.
-3 set. Focus on short ghetto-chick. Fizzles fast after telling her I'm american.
-3 set. Direct. "The boring cristinas". I open delaying my opener with heavy EC. They all looked bored out of their skulls. I introduce myself. They introduce themselves as Cristina. All 3 of them. I'm disgusted and leave.
-2 set. Mature. Boring. Leave right after my intro.
-3 set. Direct. She's totally expressionless. Actually she could care less. I try to talk, but my imagination is toast.
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Conclusion:
I feel great ! I'm really happy I got all these approaches done.
On the other hand, I feel like I'm not trying at all, once in set. I'm still way too indifferent, and I leave without escalating.
99% of sets fizzle, go nowhere or just flat-line.
I feel like I'm just mingleling around. I'm not really gaming.
But like I said. I'm doing a lot of approaches. And I feel like a lot of AA is going down.
Actually my AA right now is probably at a 2 or 3 on a scale from 1 to 10. Sometimes even lower. I waste no time in seeing what I like and going up to talk to them. It's an area where I'm constantly improving. And I'm totally free and independant from the state of my buddies.
Thumbs up to me, for making the effort.
My buddy and I went up to Salamanca for 2 days. Had a pretty good time.
Came back, and went out again.
I got a lot more approaches under my belt, but I also had my jacket stolen right under my nose, while I was gaming.
Here's what happened. Just the facts...
Enjoy. :)
May 15, 08
17 sets. First night in Salamanca. Big college town. We went to 5 or maybe 6 different bars.
-1 set. 2 Girls. Open well, talk a bit. Joke around. They think I'm drunk. One of 'em gives me shit. I pull a chode into the set. I eject.
-2 set. Gogo dancers resting. Indirect. Ask some fictitious question. Their attitude's shit. I leave.
-4 set mixed. Indirect. Ask where's a cool club. Transition with "where are they from". Chick I liked looked cuter from afar.
-2 set. German chicks. As soon as I walk into new bar, I grab her, pull her out to dance. Stop. Chat. Dance again. Move her. Dance and escalate. Grinded. Kissed her all over, except for lips. I don't think she liked it. She wanted to leave, making up some excuse. She wasn't bitchy, but cold.
-2 set. Old couple. I wanted to dance with this older(i mean real old :D ) lady. I re-opened this set. Felt good to keep trying. Her husband was trying to outsmart me.
-2 set. Couple. I walk and say: "Are you guys boyfriend and girlfriend ?"
He says yes. she says no. Hilarious. I stay in a little bit.
-3 set. This was a group my buddy opened earlier in another place. I dance with them. Joke.
-1 set. Actually this chick was really hot. And she had an orbiter next to her who left momentarily. Cool chick. I moved her so easily I was kinda shocked. We have nothing in common really. Takes forever to find common ground. I lost interest. Orbiter comes in. He's super loud. I try to "out-loud" him. No problem. He's cool.
-5 set. Direct. I tell her I think she's pretty. She introduces herself and her friends. I leave. Looked cuter from afar.
-2 set polish chicks. Few laughs. Set stalls
-6 set. Dutch black chicks. They took over the dance floor earlier. Saw my chance to open and did it.
-3 set. Direct. New venue. Tough. My buddy at this point was way too tired. Went straight up. She has bf.
-4 set. Direct. I open w, "Have we met...?" Introduce. Friend interupts. She reaches down to grab some shit from her bag. I leave.
-4 set. Fat and uglies. Lasts less than a min.
-4 set. Talk to one chick. Mexican. Normal chit chat.
-2 set. Sitting. At first ignores me by whispering into friend's ear. I pull her away. She gets up. I see how ugly she is. I leave.
-1 set. Chick by herself. Made awesome EC with her before. Best chick of the whole night. Tried to move her to the dancefloor. No dice. Got awesome attraction, though.
May 16, 08
6 sets. Much better night. I enjoyed myself so much more.
-3 set. Mixed. I just pulled a girl out to dance. Grinded a bit. Chatted a bit. Fizzled.
-2 set. Mom and daughter at a bar. I open. Before I finish my opener, old mom jumps up and says, "Ok. I'll try". I'm like, whatever. I pull her out to the middle of the dancefloor. She sucks.
-2 set. Really rough opening. She blocks up. I manage to turn it around. Later, I bet and win a beer from her. Sweet :) Do well in this one. I get them to do most of the talking.
-2 set. Mature women. One was really sexy. Do well. Fizzles.
[This was when I discover my jacket was stolen. I get angry.
I really like that jacket, too]-2 set. Bored chicks at bar celebrating b-day. I do well. Leave.
-3 set. Older chicks. Don't have much written in my note pad about this one...
May 17, 08
16 sets. Big club. This one isn't in chronological order
-3 set. 1 fat + 2 hot. Indirect. Ask some shit about music. Nothing.
-6 set. Direct. Blonde bombshell. Easily an 8. I open by teasing. Instant attraction.
-2 set. Try to hold the EC on opening. Didn't do it right.
-3 set. Mixed. Old. Tried to hold EC before speaking. Nothing.
-2 set. Did well. I danced salsa with both at the same time.
-2 set. Older women. I self-amuse or try to at least. I tell her I want to buy a house in some exotic country...like Nepal.
-2 set. Sitting. Boring ! They worked there. Fizzled.
-3 set. Focus on one. Pretty chick. Fizzles.
-2 set. French girls. Did well. Moved one to dance floor. Fizzled.
-4 set. Mixed. Hot chick + Bf. I try to dance with her. Her bf says no. I ask, "are you her bodyguard ?". Danced with her friend, though.
-3 set. Tough chicks. Fizzles fast.
-2 set. Indirect. Opinion opener, made up on the spot.
-3 set. Focus on short ghetto-chick. Fizzles fast after telling her I'm american.
-3 set. Direct. "The boring cristinas". I open delaying my opener with heavy EC. They all looked bored out of their skulls. I introduce myself. They introduce themselves as Cristina. All 3 of them. I'm disgusted and leave.
-2 set. Mature. Boring. Leave right after my intro.
-3 set. Direct. She's totally expressionless. Actually she could care less. I try to talk, but my imagination is toast.
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Conclusion:
I feel great ! I'm really happy I got all these approaches done.
On the other hand, I feel like I'm not trying at all, once in set. I'm still way too indifferent, and I leave without escalating.
99% of sets fizzle, go nowhere or just flat-line.
I feel like I'm just mingleling around. I'm not really gaming.
But like I said. I'm doing a lot of approaches. And I feel like a lot of AA is going down.
Actually my AA right now is probably at a 2 or 3 on a scale from 1 to 10. Sometimes even lower. I waste no time in seeing what I like and going up to talk to them. It's an area where I'm constantly improving. And I'm totally free and independant from the state of my buddies.
Thumbs up to me, for making the effort.
1st RSD journal approach summary
.Since starting my journal here in RSDNation, I've approached:
:) 117 sets :)
If I were to rate the level of my game right now, in all honesty, I'd probably give myself a 3. From 1 to 10. I still have loads to learn and I'm unsatisfied with what I can do so far. I'm very demanding of myself, what can I say.
Level I'm at right now: 3
May 22, 08
Let's move on with what happened tonight.
As you probably know me by now. I don't really update my journal unless something relevant pops up, or I open 3 or more sets.
I did 3 sets tonight and winged once.
We went to an awesome club with a cool terrace. Tons of cute girls.
Objective of the night: Use claw as much as possible. EC work. And BL.
Winged my buddy by dancing a little merengue with a tall black chick.
1st set: 2 mexican girls. Used Claw a couple times. Shifted body a lot. So so.
2nd: 2 girls. Opened Situational. My Gogo dancer opener. New EC stuff.
3rd set: 4 girls. Clawed 2. Loud as possible. Situational Opener. Not decisive enough. Ok BL. Worked new EC stuff. Got them smiling right away. Haven't had girls light up so much in a looong time. I just realized.
Aftermath:
The place was loaded with chicks. After reading another PUG's stuff I wanted to try out(yet again), my state was very off. Couldn't find my happy place.
The only thing that interferes with my state is when I read stuff from other Coaches that have different techniques or philosophies. It totally messes with my head.
I wanted to work on my claw-action, which I did. But only 3 sets is not enough. :(
I wanted to work on my EC. Which I also did.
When I open now, I don't make eye-contact, and I don't smile. But sets still open nicely. No heavy blow-outs whatsoever. At least not yet.
I like working with a couple concepts per night. Only 3 or less. But really focusing on adjusting them and correcting them.
Ciao.
-117 sets, which matches my post count. When I surpass it I won't be a KJ anymore ! lol
May 30, 08
Went out alone tonight. Bad case of AA and stuck in my head. Haven't had that in a while. Later I'll analyze more in depth.
2 sets. One phone number.
1st set. 2 girls sitting down on couch. I open using a ridiculous opener. Continue to talk. Their faces light up( so I must be doing something right).
My speech was a little too fast. Nervousness, I guess. First sat on couch arm-rest, then on table. Could've and Should've occupied more space.
2nd set. 2 Mature ladies at bar. Went ok. I got weirded out because I thought they were shit-testing me. Mature women are so much nicer, sometimes I find it hard to go back to young girls. Phone closed.
Wandered around the streets like a lost puppy. I hate when I do that.
Observations:
First night alone in quite some time...
I got a lot of AA. But a weird kind of AA.
Here's an X-ray of my thoughts during the night:
"Ok, here we go. Should I approach them/her...mmm...ok, wait, let me first check out the situation..."
and other stuff like this,
"Ok, maybe I can approach her...but I don't want to make a fool out of myself. I'm out alone and I can't fuck up. This place isn't crowded enough and other sets might see me crash and burn..."
I was more focused on not fucking any sets up, than actually going up and doing it.
On the way back home I realized that common problem most guys get at different stages. Like my buddy ;) . At certain stages you don't want to feel "regressive-failure". You know. That kinda failure that makes you feel like a newbie again. Make you feel like you've regressed again.
That sucks. Because I'm aware it's just an illusion.
It was a weird feeling...as much as I hate to admit I had AA, at least I learned something more about that snap-back effect of not approaching because you don't want to fuck up the progress made. I totally simpathise with my buddy now. I felt somewhat paralyzed at times, too.
Mental Notes(when stuck due to AA):
-Move around. Walk around, dance. Just get the body moving.
-Remember that I still suck at this. I'm no don juan, yet. I got tons of work to do.
-Admire their beauty. Remember that they are the reason you're doing this, not your pride.
Went out alone tonight. Bad case of AA and stuck in my head. Haven't had that in a while. Later I'll analyze more in depth.
2 sets. One phone number.
1st set. 2 girls sitting down on couch. I open using a ridiculous opener. Continue to talk. Their faces light up( so I must be doing something right).
My speech was a little too fast. Nervousness, I guess. First sat on couch arm-rest, then on table. Could've and Should've occupied more space.
2nd set. 2 Mature ladies at bar. Went ok. I got weirded out because I thought they were shit-testing me. Mature women are so much nicer, sometimes I find it hard to go back to young girls. Phone closed.
Wandered around the streets like a lost puppy. I hate when I do that.
Observations:
First night alone in quite some time...
I got a lot of AA. But a weird kind of AA.
Here's an X-ray of my thoughts during the night:
"Ok, here we go. Should I approach them/her...mmm...ok, wait, let me first check out the situation..."
and other stuff like this,
"Ok, maybe I can approach her...but I don't want to make a fool out of myself. I'm out alone and I can't fuck up. This place isn't crowded enough and other sets might see me crash and burn..."
I was more focused on not fucking any sets up, than actually going up and doing it.
On the way back home I realized that common problem most guys get at different stages. Like my buddy ;) . At certain stages you don't want to feel "regressive-failure". You know. That kinda failure that makes you feel like a newbie again. Make you feel like you've regressed again.
That sucks. Because I'm aware it's just an illusion.
It was a weird feeling...as much as I hate to admit I had AA, at least I learned something more about that snap-back effect of not approaching because you don't want to fuck up the progress made. I totally simpathise with my buddy now. I felt somewhat paralyzed at times, too.
Mental Notes(when stuck due to AA):
-Move around. Walk around, dance. Just get the body moving.
-Remember that I still suck at this. I'm no don juan, yet. I got tons of work to do.
-Admire their beauty. Remember that they are the reason you're doing this, not your pride.
June 6, 08
6 sets.
I went out alone. With very low expectations.
1st. 2 girls from out of town. I talked for a while. I wasn't really interested.
2nd. 3 women. Ugly as fuck. And bitchy, too.
3rd. 3 women. Self-amusing began. Pretty darn ugly as well.
4th. 2 girls. Opened with "You're beautiful...are you an actress ?". Talked about her hair. Then skipped right into salad. She didn't know what was going on. Opened another set. Bringing the new set into the convo.
5th. Lonely girl, part of bigger group. Used same opener. talked about "I hate lawyers". Opened another set(a couple) in front of her. Again, trying to include more people in the convo. Just experimenting. I do that a lot :D Actually, it would be interesting to see how many sets I can string together !! :D :D
6th set. A couple talking. Opened indirect. "Where's a good place for calamari sandwiches ?" I interrupted her. Focusing only on the guy. He left. I was with the girl the rest of the time. She wanted to know who was I with. I took her around the place re-openning the girl I met before. I was playing around. She actually liked my playfulness. I wasn't really into her. Thought about escalating but did nothing.
Observations:
You know...on the way back home. I was thinking how much I suck at this...still. But at the same time I realized how much I've improved. I am a lot looser, and screwing up sets isn't such a big deal once I'm on a roll.
I also realized that 90% of my improvement comes from pain.
The pain I go thru after fucking up so much.
Most of the time this feels like torture. The only time I see progress is when I push out of my comfort zone and "get lucky".
All the while, I'm using the pain of stagnation as a motivator to step out and push the comfort zone.
I'm so tempted to learn routines. I'm totally torn !!
I think I'm passed the point of no return. Learning canned shit might be very counter-productive at this point.
Self-amusement, eventhough I've only tried it a couple times, seems like free-entertainement/dancing monkey for my taste.
Now I can see that it's ME who makes the Method work, not the other way around(Knew this from before, just a reminder). I definitely don't have enough faith in it to make it work.
Anyways...
I definitely need to fail faster...
6 sets.
I went out alone. With very low expectations.
1st. 2 girls from out of town. I talked for a while. I wasn't really interested.
2nd. 3 women. Ugly as fuck. And bitchy, too.
3rd. 3 women. Self-amusing began. Pretty darn ugly as well.
4th. 2 girls. Opened with "You're beautiful...are you an actress ?". Talked about her hair. Then skipped right into salad. She didn't know what was going on. Opened another set. Bringing the new set into the convo.
5th. Lonely girl, part of bigger group. Used same opener. talked about "I hate lawyers". Opened another set(a couple) in front of her. Again, trying to include more people in the convo. Just experimenting. I do that a lot :D Actually, it would be interesting to see how many sets I can string together !! :D :D
6th set. A couple talking. Opened indirect. "Where's a good place for calamari sandwiches ?" I interrupted her. Focusing only on the guy. He left. I was with the girl the rest of the time. She wanted to know who was I with. I took her around the place re-openning the girl I met before. I was playing around. She actually liked my playfulness. I wasn't really into her. Thought about escalating but did nothing.
Observations:
You know...on the way back home. I was thinking how much I suck at this...still. But at the same time I realized how much I've improved. I am a lot looser, and screwing up sets isn't such a big deal once I'm on a roll.
I also realized that 90% of my improvement comes from pain.
The pain I go thru after fucking up so much.
Most of the time this feels like torture. The only time I see progress is when I push out of my comfort zone and "get lucky".
All the while, I'm using the pain of stagnation as a motivator to step out and push the comfort zone.
I'm so tempted to learn routines. I'm totally torn !!
I think I'm passed the point of no return. Learning canned shit might be very counter-productive at this point.
Self-amusement, eventhough I've only tried it a couple times, seems like free-entertainement/dancing monkey for my taste.
Now I can see that it's ME who makes the Method work, not the other way around(Knew this from before, just a reminder). I definitely don't have enough faith in it to make it work.
Anyways...
I definitely need to fail faster...
June 21, 08
I went to a Big club by myself. I later joined some friends but for the most part of the night I was in total chode mode delux.
What a failure. :(
The field kicked my ass tonight.
Anyways I'll make this brief. I only approached one chick all night. Ok. she was smoking hot. But she was also out on her bachelorette party.
2 major things have been fucking up my game big time lately:
1. I'm too eager on reaching the next level.
I realize that I'm tired of slow progress. I feel like I have "plateaued". and I want to improve at a quicker rate. This is definitely self-sabotaging me. But I'm confident it's a phase I need to go thru to reach that next level.
When I'm out there, I have increased AA again because I don't want to lose what I got, and I want better results. I know I can't just do what I always do because I'll just get more of the same. And if I go for more, I might fail. This situation has totally paralyzed my game.
2. I'm in the middle of learning new PU material.
I've decided on doing "scripted" game. I'm in the middle of learning new concepts and developing a whole new approach and game plan. Actually it's the first time I'm using a game plan, since for the most part I've always gone in like a chicken without a head. This transition is gonna be painful, I know. But I really need to get a good script I like soon. Or else I'm going to be stuck inside my head everytime I go out.
:)
I went to a Big club by myself. I later joined some friends but for the most part of the night I was in total chode mode delux.
What a failure. :(
The field kicked my ass tonight.
Anyways I'll make this brief. I only approached one chick all night. Ok. she was smoking hot. But she was also out on her bachelorette party.
2 major things have been fucking up my game big time lately:
1. I'm too eager on reaching the next level.
I realize that I'm tired of slow progress. I feel like I have "plateaued". and I want to improve at a quicker rate. This is definitely self-sabotaging me. But I'm confident it's a phase I need to go thru to reach that next level.
When I'm out there, I have increased AA again because I don't want to lose what I got, and I want better results. I know I can't just do what I always do because I'll just get more of the same. And if I go for more, I might fail. This situation has totally paralyzed my game.
2. I'm in the middle of learning new PU material.
I've decided on doing "scripted" game. I'm in the middle of learning new concepts and developing a whole new approach and game plan. Actually it's the first time I'm using a game plan, since for the most part I've always gone in like a chicken without a head. This transition is gonna be painful, I know. But I really need to get a good script I like soon. Or else I'm going to be stuck inside my head everytime I go out.
:)
Gigololove
Senior Member
Join Date: 08/25/2007 | Posts: 212
11 sets. Left empty handed.
The positive: After a rocky afternoon with my gf. She's upset because I don't dedicate enough time to her and I change my plans with her at the last minute. All very true. I felt emotionally tired. I felt like I was on an emotional rollercoaster all freagin' night. I was constantly pumping myself up. Trying to stay on course. At one point I had to go to the bathroom to regain focus (something I never do). I was pushing myself a lot. I give myself points for the effort.
1st set. 3 girls. Situational opener. Something about the gogo-dancers.
2nd set. 4 girls. Concetrated on one of them. High-5ed her to death. :)
3rd set. 3 girls. Got a bad shit test. Didn't pass. It was that shit test where they ask you tones of questions without really believing a word you say.
4th set. 2 girls. Got great connection with one. The other one had cockblock written on her forehead.
Choaded around a lot...Re-grouped.
5th set. large fuckin group(8 or 9). all girls. Tried to work the group. Unsuccessfully. Only one lit up like a christmas tree.
6th set. Opened another large group of all girls. (6 or 7). They looked sad as hell. I say, "Why are you guys so sad". One responds, "Who's sad ?" all defensive and literally walking away.
7th set. Open 1 of 4 girls. Leaned in too much. I lost interest and ejected.
8th set. 3 girls. Bored to death. Only one gave me the time of day. The other 2 were bitchy.
9th set. 4 or 5 girls. Open, really high energy. Really nice girls. Danced with the one celebrating her b-day.
10th set. 3 girls and 2 guys. At this point I don't give a fuck. I go direct. Boom. "I think you're pretty, I want to meet you. I'm GL and you ?"
Her friend comes out of nowhere. "Her boyfriend's right there". Pointing at this big dude twice my size. I reach over, shake hands. Meet her friends. I get Amoged by his A-hole friend, "You look definitely gay", or something, he blurts out. I don't even fucking care. Boom, I go back to my chick. Her friend proceeded to push me away with her back. A little more happened there but not worth writing about.
11th set. 3 girls. "Hey girls, I want to meet you, I'm GL and you ?". The tall chick takes like 4 steps back. I don't give a fuck. I meet the other 2. She finally slides back in. SHe says, "I don't feel like talking" in a really bitchy way. I wave my hand downwards, giving her the "you suck" move.
Mental notes:
What a rollercoaster of a night. I felt like Humpty Dumpty, time and time again. Falling down, thinking "this sucks", "this is too hard", and various shit of that nature. Pulled myself back and went for one more. I even had to take a time out to regroup.
Another night of what I call "pure learning". No closes. Emotional beatings. And at the end, just experience to take home and digest.