THE FORUMS
Feb 23, 08
In da club (with 3 other awesome dudes). High five everyone on the dance floor. Run around the club. Twice. High five everyone again. Dance and have a good time. My friend opens group. I claw blonde. Micro-isolate. After a couple mins. I ask her to join me for a drink at the bar. I have her introduce me to her friends. We go to bar. Bar is packed. I SnA her. We go back towards friends. In the meantime during all this. I'm holding hands and giving her soft kisses on the cheak. I tell her I want to kiss her. She says "no, I don't know you, I just met you". I pull away the sale by saying "ok, lets find your friends". She says, "oh, you're ditching me ?" I pull her in, hug, make out. I move her again. Put her against a column, make out w her some more. She invites me to a drink. We go find her friends. We can't find her friends. She says, "go find your friends, I'll find mine". Cool.
Later, my buddies and I do another game before leaving. Ask, "Are you having a good time tonight ?... Awesome" to as many people as possible in 10 mins.or say to chicks, "you look hot or great tonight" was the other option.
Summary:
Did stuff I've never done before (high 5 and run around). Had more fun. Still felt eager to open more groups, talk to more chicks. But that's ok. Still had a great time with my friends. Plus the k-close was cool, too, cuz I did it in record time for me. And extra points, for using SnA, and some "push", when I needed it.
See ya 'round here.
In da club (with 3 other awesome dudes). High five everyone on the dance floor. Run around the club. Twice. High five everyone again. Dance and have a good time. My friend opens group. I claw blonde. Micro-isolate. After a couple mins. I ask her to join me for a drink at the bar. I have her introduce me to her friends. We go to bar. Bar is packed. I SnA her. We go back towards friends. In the meantime during all this. I'm holding hands and giving her soft kisses on the cheak. I tell her I want to kiss her. She says "no, I don't know you, I just met you". I pull away the sale by saying "ok, lets find your friends". She says, "oh, you're ditching me ?" I pull her in, hug, make out. I move her again. Put her against a column, make out w her some more. She invites me to a drink. We go find her friends. We can't find her friends. She says, "go find your friends, I'll find mine". Cool.
Later, my buddies and I do another game before leaving. Ask, "Are you having a good time tonight ?... Awesome" to as many people as possible in 10 mins.or say to chicks, "you look hot or great tonight" was the other option.
Summary:
Did stuff I've never done before (high 5 and run around). Had more fun. Still felt eager to open more groups, talk to more chicks. But that's ok. Still had a great time with my friends. Plus the k-close was cool, too, cuz I did it in record time for me. And extra points, for using SnA, and some "push", when I needed it.
See ya 'round here.
March 13, 08
Didn't do a whole lot tonight. I was eager to see how my good friend would do after comming back from a solid 1 on 1 in Sweden. Hopefully I'll see him in better form tommorrow...
Anyways back to me. I spent most of the time hang around w my friend waiting for him to "warm up", so I just did one approach in the first venue. 3 (mixed set). My girl shyed off almost immediately. I'm pretty much just goin in and intro-myself, and asking "having fun tonight?", nowadays. So end up talking to the guy. Cool dude, but not into guys.
Next 2 venues, we choded about. Nothing.
Last venue.
I wing my friend(2 set). I dance a little with her. She's cool, but my buddy wants to move on.
Remembering an idea from the forum about opening ugly chicks first, I open the alpha-female of a group of 3. Cool chick. Really friendly.
I approach a really cute german chick(2 set). I dance with her but completely fuck up the kino escalation. I'm sure she was thinking, "that's it?".
I eject before things get worse. I was planning on comming back later, which I did.
I wing my buddy again. Screw it up for him.
I turn around and open another set(5 or so). Only focus on one chick though. I tease, but go a little overboard. Her friend was fat, but cute. Great face.
Wing again. Eject.
Go back to german chick. She blows me off. I immediately open guys lingering around them. Tell the guys, "hey, don't be affraid and talk to these girls".
I end up chatting with a dude for a bit. Moving on.
I wing my friend one last time. Horrible.
Mental notes:
Fat/ugly chicks are cool and friendly. Hotter chicks are tough.
I'm in between styles right now. I was really sloppy. And not in a good way.
I'm definitely going back to a low energy, chill, relaxed approach, as opposed to my last 2 or 3 months of high energy, fast talking, question train, all over the place, extavaganza.
Thanks for reading.:)
Didn't do a whole lot tonight. I was eager to see how my good friend would do after comming back from a solid 1 on 1 in Sweden. Hopefully I'll see him in better form tommorrow...
Anyways back to me. I spent most of the time hang around w my friend waiting for him to "warm up", so I just did one approach in the first venue. 3 (mixed set). My girl shyed off almost immediately. I'm pretty much just goin in and intro-myself, and asking "having fun tonight?", nowadays. So end up talking to the guy. Cool dude, but not into guys.
Next 2 venues, we choded about. Nothing.
Last venue.
I wing my friend(2 set). I dance a little with her. She's cool, but my buddy wants to move on.
Remembering an idea from the forum about opening ugly chicks first, I open the alpha-female of a group of 3. Cool chick. Really friendly.
I approach a really cute german chick(2 set). I dance with her but completely fuck up the kino escalation. I'm sure she was thinking, "that's it?".
I eject before things get worse. I was planning on comming back later, which I did.
I wing my buddy again. Screw it up for him.
I turn around and open another set(5 or so). Only focus on one chick though. I tease, but go a little overboard. Her friend was fat, but cute. Great face.
Wing again. Eject.
Go back to german chick. She blows me off. I immediately open guys lingering around them. Tell the guys, "hey, don't be affraid and talk to these girls".
I end up chatting with a dude for a bit. Moving on.
I wing my friend one last time. Horrible.
Mental notes:
Fat/ugly chicks are cool and friendly. Hotter chicks are tough.
I'm in between styles right now. I was really sloppy. And not in a good way.
I'm definitely going back to a low energy, chill, relaxed approach, as opposed to my last 2 or 3 months of high energy, fast talking, question train, all over the place, extavaganza.
Thanks for reading.:)
March 14, 08
At a bar...After deciding to change up my 2 tactics a bit, and going back to what was working for me before coming on board the RSD train, I start of the night with only one major objective: do as many sets as I can, and re-learn to... slow... it... down..., again.
Another thought I had up my sleave, was to firmly believe that I was the prize girls had to win over tonight. And that women had to talk to me, plow me, not vice-versa. To implement this plan, I would use the magic word. After I asked a question, making sure it was an open-question, I would get her answer and react to it, saying "really?"(with emotion). Getting the girl to talk more than I do is on my list of things I want to improve on. Sorry guys, but I don't believe in plowing anymore.
On the downside, I wasn't really focused on escalating physically. And that sucks. But I really wanted to take care of this shift in opening and hooking with low solid energy, cause it's been a while. I was tought to plow, and had always done it. So changing that habit needed some concentration.(Actually these are excuses cause I should've, and could've escalated easily :o . Shame on me)
So here's a brief breakdown:
-3 set, opened easy. No problem. Still a bit jittery from all that high energy stuff I was doing before. Ejected on a high point.
-3 set, opened great. I finally felt I was back to what works for me. Very cute girl in that group but I want to open more sets.
-2 set opened even better. Totally casual, friendly, not too eager, I was the PRIZE. Worked my "let her do the talking" tactic fantastic! She talked about music and concerts, and I did most of the listening.
-5 or 6 set. Cool girls. Joked around. Pulled a random guy into the set. Tried a little role play with one lawyer chick. Moved it into a cold read. Never knew I could role-play AND cold read at the same time, but what the heck! I'm into creative pick up, what can I say? :D
-Winged my buddy. Did it again. Regained my position after committing the mistake of asking her about politics. Changed topics quickly. Left on a high note again.
At a loud (as fuck) club:
-3 set. Pulled the whole set on stage with me to dance. It's true, I wasn't 100% belief(like Tim says :) ), but worked anyways. Grinded for an hour with "bucked-toothed married chick with hot body" letting my buddy kiss-close her friend.
-2 set. Failed to hook. 0% belief on that one. I was pretty worn out by that time.
Mental notes:
Overall it was a good night. I worked on the 2 things I wanted to work on and it felt good. I felt a flow of confidence rushing back into my game after dropping the whole high energy "pseudo-dancing monkey game". Wicked :)
I loved the whole "listening" role I was doing. Need to work on it way more. but on the right track.
I liked going 2 or 3 months with the high energy thing though. It always helps in the long run to try and experiment with different stuff.
Need to start my affirmations diet.
Good night.
I liked myself!
At a bar...After deciding to change up my 2 tactics a bit, and going back to what was working for me before coming on board the RSD train, I start of the night with only one major objective: do as many sets as I can, and re-learn to... slow... it... down..., again.
Another thought I had up my sleave, was to firmly believe that I was the prize girls had to win over tonight. And that women had to talk to me, plow me, not vice-versa. To implement this plan, I would use the magic word. After I asked a question, making sure it was an open-question, I would get her answer and react to it, saying "really?"(with emotion). Getting the girl to talk more than I do is on my list of things I want to improve on. Sorry guys, but I don't believe in plowing anymore.
On the downside, I wasn't really focused on escalating physically. And that sucks. But I really wanted to take care of this shift in opening and hooking with low solid energy, cause it's been a while. I was tought to plow, and had always done it. So changing that habit needed some concentration.(Actually these are excuses cause I should've, and could've escalated easily :o . Shame on me)
So here's a brief breakdown:
-3 set, opened easy. No problem. Still a bit jittery from all that high energy stuff I was doing before. Ejected on a high point.
-3 set, opened great. I finally felt I was back to what works for me. Very cute girl in that group but I want to open more sets.
-2 set opened even better. Totally casual, friendly, not too eager, I was the PRIZE. Worked my "let her do the talking" tactic fantastic! She talked about music and concerts, and I did most of the listening.
-5 or 6 set. Cool girls. Joked around. Pulled a random guy into the set. Tried a little role play with one lawyer chick. Moved it into a cold read. Never knew I could role-play AND cold read at the same time, but what the heck! I'm into creative pick up, what can I say? :D
-Winged my buddy. Did it again. Regained my position after committing the mistake of asking her about politics. Changed topics quickly. Left on a high note again.
At a loud (as fuck) club:
-3 set. Pulled the whole set on stage with me to dance. It's true, I wasn't 100% belief(like Tim says :) ), but worked anyways. Grinded for an hour with "bucked-toothed married chick with hot body" letting my buddy kiss-close her friend.
-2 set. Failed to hook. 0% belief on that one. I was pretty worn out by that time.
Mental notes:
Overall it was a good night. I worked on the 2 things I wanted to work on and it felt good. I felt a flow of confidence rushing back into my game after dropping the whole high energy "pseudo-dancing monkey game". Wicked :)
I loved the whole "listening" role I was doing. Need to work on it way more. but on the right track.
I liked going 2 or 3 months with the high energy thing though. It always helps in the long run to try and experiment with different stuff.
Need to start my affirmations diet.
Good night.
I liked myself!
March 18, 08
Day Game:
After choding around with my buddy at a bookstore. I finally sum up the courage to do an approach(yeah, I suck at day game. High levels of AA).
I get up beside her and lookng at some CD I open, Boom! "What's that perfum you're wearing?" She replies, "I'm not wearing any perfum." I stay in it and keep talking. I'm nervous as hell. And it's showing. I go for the close way too soon. She runs off with a smile.
Night Game:
After a really disappointing day session. I'm back in my natural "habitat"(night game!). We go into a bar. Place is dead. Next bar. I open a chick in a 3 mixed set. Dance with her. There were only about...15 people in the whole place.
So I make sure I dance well. I leave her and open a 4 set all girls. Easy. I dance with my target. Vibe. Everything's going great. I eject and go to help out my buddy that was with a 2 set. These girls didn't want to bounce. It was like their feet were fucking stuck to the floor. I kino escalate my girl and notice very little rejection. But I can't for the life of me, move her to the dance floor. I get tired of her and leave. My friend stays in there. We go back to the first place. Open 3 more sets(2 two-sets, one 3 set). My last one was funny. After I open the 3 set, one of the girls says, "Do you guys know each other?". And there was one chick I tried to claw and she kung fu'd my arm out of the way, twice! It was the weirdest thing. We leave. Night's done.
March 19, 08
Day Game:
Back on the streets. Much less nervous as the day before. We go to an H&M store. I wanted to approach direct. I guess I was giving off a very creepy vibe, because I opened 3 girls, and I couldn't even get the words out, they were already running for the hills! I mean...it was pretty ugly.
So I say, fuck direct, I'll just use what's around me and go indirect. We go to another store(books, music, movies n' stuff). I open a 2 set. Finally. Eureka. The set opens and I'm in. I eject after making them laugh and stuff. I wanted to open more sets. In the book section, I open with "Hey is this a good book?" they all opened. I open my last girl with the perfum opener from yesterday. Great stuff. Number closed. Awesome.
So I was able to save face after those first 3 direct openers that went really bad. I was a bit too high energy the whole time. Better towards the end.
I get so nervous during Day time approaches, I definitely have to work hard at this part.
See ya later. :D
Day Game:
After choding around with my buddy at a bookstore. I finally sum up the courage to do an approach(yeah, I suck at day game. High levels of AA).
I get up beside her and lookng at some CD I open, Boom! "What's that perfum you're wearing?" She replies, "I'm not wearing any perfum." I stay in it and keep talking. I'm nervous as hell. And it's showing. I go for the close way too soon. She runs off with a smile.
Night Game:
After a really disappointing day session. I'm back in my natural "habitat"(night game!). We go into a bar. Place is dead. Next bar. I open a chick in a 3 mixed set. Dance with her. There were only about...15 people in the whole place.
So I make sure I dance well. I leave her and open a 4 set all girls. Easy. I dance with my target. Vibe. Everything's going great. I eject and go to help out my buddy that was with a 2 set. These girls didn't want to bounce. It was like their feet were fucking stuck to the floor. I kino escalate my girl and notice very little rejection. But I can't for the life of me, move her to the dance floor. I get tired of her and leave. My friend stays in there. We go back to the first place. Open 3 more sets(2 two-sets, one 3 set). My last one was funny. After I open the 3 set, one of the girls says, "Do you guys know each other?". And there was one chick I tried to claw and she kung fu'd my arm out of the way, twice! It was the weirdest thing. We leave. Night's done.
March 19, 08
Day Game:
Back on the streets. Much less nervous as the day before. We go to an H&M store. I wanted to approach direct. I guess I was giving off a very creepy vibe, because I opened 3 girls, and I couldn't even get the words out, they were already running for the hills! I mean...it was pretty ugly.
So I say, fuck direct, I'll just use what's around me and go indirect. We go to another store(books, music, movies n' stuff). I open a 2 set. Finally. Eureka. The set opens and I'm in. I eject after making them laugh and stuff. I wanted to open more sets. In the book section, I open with "Hey is this a good book?" they all opened. I open my last girl with the perfum opener from yesterday. Great stuff. Number closed. Awesome.
So I was able to save face after those first 3 direct openers that went really bad. I was a bit too high energy the whole time. Better towards the end.
I get so nervous during Day time approaches, I definitely have to work hard at this part.
See ya later. :D
March 19, 08...continued.
Night Game:
6 sets and winged my buddy once.
Here's the breakdown:
-2 chicks from belgium. Opened casually "Hey what's up?" ...bla bla
I eject. I come back after hangin with my homie. Pull one of them out to the dancefloor. Dance. Eject.
-Monster mixed set. Mostly guys. Only 3 chicks. Alternative dive-bar. I open dancing. Nothing really to comment on that one. Not really into them. Probably biggest mixed set I've done so far.
-3 set. Ugliest chick in the club but "tons" of fun. Not a chubby chaser, BTW. I wanted the mini-skirted one of the 3. I eject after a bit. Came back later.
-2 set. Mature with 30 something hot chick. Talked to mature. I ejected. She was boring.
-Winged my buddy. Getting better at winging.
-2 set with Daikiris. Had some quick fun. Ejected.
-2 set dancing. Open. Dance. Twirl. A chode jumps in. I get rid of him. Second guy jumps in. Got rid of him, too. First time I ever actively get rid of competition.
Home.
Recap:
Opening IS getting a lot easier. I just did 19 sets, plus winging a bit, in 2 days. And I don't feel emotionally drained at all. In fact, I feel I could go out tommorrow and keep going. I really want to get good at this. I know I need to approach like mad to get there, and that's what I'm doing.
I'm still counting the sets eventhough maybe I shouldn't. I could really care less how many approaches I do. To be really good you gotta do thousands upon thousands anyway...But I guess maybe a year from now I can look back and count how many I've done. I guess it helps to document the progress in any way, shape or form, so...this is how I'm doin' it.
See you next week. I'll be starting a good Day Game diet!:D
Night Game:
6 sets and winged my buddy once.
Here's the breakdown:
-2 chicks from belgium. Opened casually "Hey what's up?" ...bla bla
I eject. I come back after hangin with my homie. Pull one of them out to the dancefloor. Dance. Eject.
-Monster mixed set. Mostly guys. Only 3 chicks. Alternative dive-bar. I open dancing. Nothing really to comment on that one. Not really into them. Probably biggest mixed set I've done so far.
-3 set. Ugliest chick in the club but "tons" of fun. Not a chubby chaser, BTW. I wanted the mini-skirted one of the 3. I eject after a bit. Came back later.
-2 set. Mature with 30 something hot chick. Talked to mature. I ejected. She was boring.
-Winged my buddy. Getting better at winging.
-2 set with Daikiris. Had some quick fun. Ejected.
-2 set dancing. Open. Dance. Twirl. A chode jumps in. I get rid of him. Second guy jumps in. Got rid of him, too. First time I ever actively get rid of competition.
Home.
Recap:
Opening IS getting a lot easier. I just did 19 sets, plus winging a bit, in 2 days. And I don't feel emotionally drained at all. In fact, I feel I could go out tommorrow and keep going. I really want to get good at this. I know I need to approach like mad to get there, and that's what I'm doing.
I'm still counting the sets eventhough maybe I shouldn't. I could really care less how many approaches I do. To be really good you gotta do thousands upon thousands anyway...But I guess maybe a year from now I can look back and count how many I've done. I guess it helps to document the progress in any way, shape or form, so...this is how I'm doin' it.
See you next week. I'll be starting a good Day Game diet!:D
April 10, 08
First night out in ages. 3 sets...I know...why am I writing this, right ?
But I'm listening to Genpo Roshi for the first time...and I'm kinda in the mood of writing what went on.
1st set. 4 girls. Open dancing, not saying a word. Wing roles in and games 2 girls from my set breaking the set in 2. We both later got # close from his 2 girls.
2nd set. After the first one was dying down. They were getting ready to leave. I open 3 girls. Went well and ejected within 3 mins.
3rd set-3 girls(2 sitting one dancing a bit). Approach invitation by one of them by dancing around and looking at us. Actually I don't know if it was an AI but I went ahead and moved in. Opened by dancing with her. Her friends asks, "do you guys know each other ?"(awesome :D ) I literally drag her out to dance, but she went to my wing. My friend and I sit down with set. Talk for 20 mins.
Mental notes:
It's so hard to see improvements...but I know it's there.
I tried to focus more on her left eye. I could really care less. But I want to see how connecting with that "eye" goes.
My kino still sucks. But I'm definitely more aware of the whole interaction.
Overall felt pretty comfortable...
Night
First night out in ages. 3 sets...I know...why am I writing this, right ?
But I'm listening to Genpo Roshi for the first time...and I'm kinda in the mood of writing what went on.
1st set. 4 girls. Open dancing, not saying a word. Wing roles in and games 2 girls from my set breaking the set in 2. We both later got # close from his 2 girls.
2nd set. After the first one was dying down. They were getting ready to leave. I open 3 girls. Went well and ejected within 3 mins.
3rd set-3 girls(2 sitting one dancing a bit). Approach invitation by one of them by dancing around and looking at us. Actually I don't know if it was an AI but I went ahead and moved in. Opened by dancing with her. Her friends asks, "do you guys know each other ?"(awesome :D ) I literally drag her out to dance, but she went to my wing. My friend and I sit down with set. Talk for 20 mins.
Mental notes:
It's so hard to see improvements...but I know it's there.
I tried to focus more on her left eye. I could really care less. But I want to see how connecting with that "eye" goes.
My kino still sucks. But I'm definitely more aware of the whole interaction.
Overall felt pretty comfortable...
Night
April 18, 08
After forcing myself to memorize routines(which is a real nightmare for me), with not much success. I decided to just wing it one more night and go with the flow.
1st set. 3 dutch chicks sort of isolated from a larger mixed set. led one of them out to dance. Just talked without any real intention to connect. Just hanging out. Bad for me, because I really need to work on my kino escalation.
2st set re-open a set my friend opened before. They tell me how they insulted the teacher(future dentists they tell me). I pull one of them out to dance.
3rd set, 3 girls. Mini bachelorette party. The one getting married was super dry. I tried to get her to talk to me about her steamy man. No go. I really liked her friend. SOI'd her a little but again was affraid to kino escalate that shit.
We go to another spot.
4th set, 3 chicks. Open the alpha female, got her smiling. Eject too early.
5th set, 3 girls yet again, high five alpha chick. I'm in. tease a bit. Eject.
6th set. These chicks shut me down so quickly. Fuckin lame cause I'm leaning in again. Speech is too quick, and my energy is way above theirs.
Mental Notes:
I'm so anti-routines, I don't know how the fuck I'm going to make that change to routines...
Escalation, My biggest fucking problem(among many others). I gotta push myself even if I blow up.
I need to put my "shuffle" idea in practice. See how it goes, cause I'm only theorizing the play in my mind and not actually doing it, so I don't know how it would work in real life.
Need to push myself more, much more.
On a positive note. I'm choding around much less these days. Approaching a lot with very little space in between each approach. The downside of this is that I'm eject way too soon on many of them.
More work tomorrow...
After forcing myself to memorize routines(which is a real nightmare for me), with not much success. I decided to just wing it one more night and go with the flow.
1st set. 3 dutch chicks sort of isolated from a larger mixed set. led one of them out to dance. Just talked without any real intention to connect. Just hanging out. Bad for me, because I really need to work on my kino escalation.
2st set re-open a set my friend opened before. They tell me how they insulted the teacher(future dentists they tell me). I pull one of them out to dance.
3rd set, 3 girls. Mini bachelorette party. The one getting married was super dry. I tried to get her to talk to me about her steamy man. No go. I really liked her friend. SOI'd her a little but again was affraid to kino escalate that shit.
We go to another spot.
4th set, 3 chicks. Open the alpha female, got her smiling. Eject too early.
5th set, 3 girls yet again, high five alpha chick. I'm in. tease a bit. Eject.
6th set. These chicks shut me down so quickly. Fuckin lame cause I'm leaning in again. Speech is too quick, and my energy is way above theirs.
Mental Notes:
I'm so anti-routines, I don't know how the fuck I'm going to make that change to routines...
Escalation, My biggest fucking problem(among many others). I gotta push myself even if I blow up.
I need to put my "shuffle" idea in practice. See how it goes, cause I'm only theorizing the play in my mind and not actually doing it, so I don't know how it would work in real life.
Need to push myself more, much more.
On a positive note. I'm choding around much less these days. Approaching a lot with very little space in between each approach. The downside of this is that I'm eject way too soon on many of them.
More work tomorrow...
April 19, 08
Last night was weird. I shouldn't be posting a report. But I noticed a couple glitches in my game so I might as well take note and write 'em down...
I went out alone because my friend fell asleep and forgot to turn on his cell phone. So here's my first "batman" night in a while.
I went to this area of bars where normally it's pretty packed. Last night it was empty and was like Mixed-set hell...oh well. Gotta learn this shit !
1st set, 3 girls, as soon as I walk in. Boom. I open this set. I'm pretty high energy with this one. I get stuck on the cold read and don't move it beyond that. It was just a warm up. At one point I tell the alpha, "you look like you read a lot. You've got small eyes". Her friend moments later tells me it's mean to tell her that, bla bla bla. I respond, "yeah, of course she likes to read. My grandmother had small eyes, and she was a great reader !"
2nd set, 2 girls and 3 guys. Normally I don't waste my time when the guys out-number the girls. But these guys had AFC tattooed on their foreheads. Really boring guys. So I open the guy closest to the girls. Transition to the girls. But make the fatal mistake of talking to the other 2 chodes. I'm not an expert in mixed sets, and it showed. Any experience comes in handy.
3rd set, 7 girls+1 guy. I see only the girls dancing in a circle. I see a good looking guy at the bar (that sounds gay, I know). I open him first, because I want to create some social proof and maybe use him as a wing later. Turns out his the bf of one the girls in the large group. The guy is super cool, and chat with for a while. I make the mistake of not creating a way for him to open the set of girls for me.
I eject and shortly after meet my friend. The place was crap. We end up in an another part of town. Different area, but very few sets to do anything. Mostly mixed. I like doing mixed because they're challenging but they also stress me out more.
Mental notes:
I want to note how I accelerate my speech a lot when things are going well. It's like I get excited and stuff and talk faster and gesticulate a lot more.
Need to improve on this aspect.
Last night was weird. I shouldn't be posting a report. But I noticed a couple glitches in my game so I might as well take note and write 'em down...
I went out alone because my friend fell asleep and forgot to turn on his cell phone. So here's my first "batman" night in a while.
I went to this area of bars where normally it's pretty packed. Last night it was empty and was like Mixed-set hell...oh well. Gotta learn this shit !
1st set, 3 girls, as soon as I walk in. Boom. I open this set. I'm pretty high energy with this one. I get stuck on the cold read and don't move it beyond that. It was just a warm up. At one point I tell the alpha, "you look like you read a lot. You've got small eyes". Her friend moments later tells me it's mean to tell her that, bla bla bla. I respond, "yeah, of course she likes to read. My grandmother had small eyes, and she was a great reader !"
2nd set, 2 girls and 3 guys. Normally I don't waste my time when the guys out-number the girls. But these guys had AFC tattooed on their foreheads. Really boring guys. So I open the guy closest to the girls. Transition to the girls. But make the fatal mistake of talking to the other 2 chodes. I'm not an expert in mixed sets, and it showed. Any experience comes in handy.
3rd set, 7 girls+1 guy. I see only the girls dancing in a circle. I see a good looking guy at the bar (that sounds gay, I know). I open him first, because I want to create some social proof and maybe use him as a wing later. Turns out his the bf of one the girls in the large group. The guy is super cool, and chat with for a while. I make the mistake of not creating a way for him to open the set of girls for me.
I eject and shortly after meet my friend. The place was crap. We end up in an another part of town. Different area, but very few sets to do anything. Mostly mixed. I like doing mixed because they're challenging but they also stress me out more.
Mental notes:
I want to note how I accelerate my speech a lot when things are going well. It's like I get excited and stuff and talk faster and gesticulate a lot more.
Need to improve on this aspect.
April 20, 08
Went to salsa club. Took a lot of girls out to dance. So after a lot of dancing. I'm chatting with the girl I really want.
She's 37, divorced. I cold read her well and leave her thinking about what I said about her. Apparently it affected her deeply.
I see her again. Continue talking with her. I pull out to dance again and miss a golden opportunity to kiss her. I definitely regret that. big time !
We go to the bar and continue to talk. I go for the number close. But she doesn't want anything more than friends. I insist and tell her I like her and I want to get to know her, nothing more. I try some NLP and other stuff. Nothing.
Mental Note:
After having my oportunity to close and then fumbling around I realize that I definitely lack a 'killer instinct' when it comes time to close. I play it way to safe. I know this. I think I'm going to put it in my affirmations. "Closing women is easy" or something.
I was really pissed off at myself for fucking this one up. It's like the upteenth time I fuck up when it's time to pull the trigger.
Went to salsa club. Took a lot of girls out to dance. So after a lot of dancing. I'm chatting with the girl I really want.
She's 37, divorced. I cold read her well and leave her thinking about what I said about her. Apparently it affected her deeply.
I see her again. Continue talking with her. I pull out to dance again and miss a golden opportunity to kiss her. I definitely regret that. big time !
We go to the bar and continue to talk. I go for the number close. But she doesn't want anything more than friends. I insist and tell her I like her and I want to get to know her, nothing more. I try some NLP and other stuff. Nothing.
Mental Note:
After having my oportunity to close and then fumbling around I realize that I definitely lack a 'killer instinct' when it comes time to close. I play it way to safe. I know this. I think I'm going to put it in my affirmations. "Closing women is easy" or something.
I was really pissed off at myself for fucking this one up. It's like the upteenth time I fuck up when it's time to pull the trigger.
April 24, 08
I got dumped today. For the first time in my life. :D
I had never been dumped before so I was pretty shocked. I wanted to break up with her but never found the guts to do it. I felt bad for her because I knew she was very upset. I had lied to her, and she picked up on it very quickly. I deserved it. I wasn't upfront or honest with her so I got the boot.
She's 36 and has a lot of experience under her belt. Women that age have like a 'bullshit alarm' bilt in.
At least I can spend more time now with my other girlfriend. And I can go out more, too.
Anyways, I met my friend and went out. First we went to a very preppy bar. Super hot college girls. We ended up leaving and going somewhere else. Everybody knew everybody. Tons of Mixed sets.
So we end up in my buddy's favorite place.
I only needed to approach one set last night :) . 3 girls. I claw 2 of them. Say something. I get a "We're american". I high-5 them all and pull 'em on stage to dance. We talk a bit and out of nowhere An idea occurs to me. I SOI her with "you're funny". It works great, because girls love to think that their funny. Guys rarely tell them their funny as a compliment. And it kinda confuses her, she doesn't quite understand if I think she's funny because I'm laughing at her or because she really is funny.
So I'm dancing with this sweet young girl and I get the 'age' shit test. "How old are you ?" I play around and am very vague. I finally tell her my age and reverse the situation on her. I tell her, "You look really young...Maybe too young. You look 18 or 19". She gets all defensive and says, "No I'm 20". At this point her gfs ditch her(shocking !! I've never seen that before. 2 girls leave a third in the hands of some stranger-dude
).
I know at this point I've got it made. ;)
I try some qualification on her, eventhough I suck at it.
I say, "Are you a good student, because I only like really smart girls that study a lot". She replies all coy, "Yeah, I love to study. It's all I do." I bust on her a bit and say, well don't take it that far, I don't like teacher's pets either".
I kiss her neck slowly and start to amp it up. I kiss her and we start dry-humping on stage. We're going at it for like 40 mins. Finally I say, "Are you thirsty ? I'm going to get something to drink".
I get her #. I want to leave because I don't want to stay up late. It's 2 am. My buddy comes around and interrupts our make out, that was funny.
I pull her out of the club and put her in a cab. She's on her way home.
I knew I couldn't leave her in there, all alone, drunk, and with guys probably ready to pounce on her at the first chance.
Mental Notes:
Game is so weird. Here I was at 8 o'clock pm, dumped by one girl only to find myself "humping" another chick 5 hours later.
-I really enjoyed the "you're funny" remark I gave her a couple of times from the beginning. Need to use that more. I used some shock n awe. Sprinckling it here and there. I also SOI'd her later with "Wow, you're funny and sexy".
-I was focusing a lot on emotional spikes, too. Instead of being all loud and high energy from the beginning, I'm more relaxed and chill, and then I amp it up with high-5s hugs or whatever, when I need it.
-I need to qualify random people more to get into the flow of qualification. Apart from reading more about it, I really need to work on it's subtle variations.
I got dumped today. For the first time in my life. :D
I had never been dumped before so I was pretty shocked. I wanted to break up with her but never found the guts to do it. I felt bad for her because I knew she was very upset. I had lied to her, and she picked up on it very quickly. I deserved it. I wasn't upfront or honest with her so I got the boot.
She's 36 and has a lot of experience under her belt. Women that age have like a 'bullshit alarm' bilt in.
At least I can spend more time now with my other girlfriend. And I can go out more, too.
Anyways, I met my friend and went out. First we went to a very preppy bar. Super hot college girls. We ended up leaving and going somewhere else. Everybody knew everybody. Tons of Mixed sets.
So we end up in my buddy's favorite place.
I only needed to approach one set last night :) . 3 girls. I claw 2 of them. Say something. I get a "We're american". I high-5 them all and pull 'em on stage to dance. We talk a bit and out of nowhere An idea occurs to me. I SOI her with "you're funny". It works great, because girls love to think that their funny. Guys rarely tell them their funny as a compliment. And it kinda confuses her, she doesn't quite understand if I think she's funny because I'm laughing at her or because she really is funny.
So I'm dancing with this sweet young girl and I get the 'age' shit test. "How old are you ?" I play around and am very vague. I finally tell her my age and reverse the situation on her. I tell her, "You look really young...Maybe too young. You look 18 or 19". She gets all defensive and says, "No I'm 20". At this point her gfs ditch her(shocking !! I've never seen that before. 2 girls leave a third in the hands of some stranger-dude
).I know at this point I've got it made. ;)
I try some qualification on her, eventhough I suck at it.
I say, "Are you a good student, because I only like really smart girls that study a lot". She replies all coy, "Yeah, I love to study. It's all I do." I bust on her a bit and say, well don't take it that far, I don't like teacher's pets either".
I kiss her neck slowly and start to amp it up. I kiss her and we start dry-humping on stage. We're going at it for like 40 mins. Finally I say, "Are you thirsty ? I'm going to get something to drink".
I get her #. I want to leave because I don't want to stay up late. It's 2 am. My buddy comes around and interrupts our make out, that was funny.
I pull her out of the club and put her in a cab. She's on her way home.
I knew I couldn't leave her in there, all alone, drunk, and with guys probably ready to pounce on her at the first chance.
Mental Notes:
Game is so weird. Here I was at 8 o'clock pm, dumped by one girl only to find myself "humping" another chick 5 hours later.
-I really enjoyed the "you're funny" remark I gave her a couple of times from the beginning. Need to use that more. I used some shock n awe. Sprinckling it here and there. I also SOI'd her later with "Wow, you're funny and sexy".
-I was focusing a lot on emotional spikes, too. Instead of being all loud and high energy from the beginning, I'm more relaxed and chill, and then I amp it up with high-5s hugs or whatever, when I need it.
-I need to qualify random people more to get into the flow of qualification. Apart from reading more about it, I really need to work on it's subtle variations.
Gigololove
Senior Member
Join Date: 08/25/2007 | Posts: 212
Hi there. My 69th post, as I talked about, will mark the beginning of my journal here. Thanks RSD for being so cool. It took me a while, but I think I want to adopt you guys as my new parents and uncles, brothers and cousins. Much Love.
Feb 21, 08...
What a fuckin' night. I definitely got served by this one ghetto chick I opened. Last approach of the night. She was pretty darn close to hitting me or something cause she was making a huge scene. She was in a group of...6 or maybe 7 other ghetto chicks.
Another fat chick I opened reacted really poorly. I was self-amusing and just dancing around, having fun. I guess I just rubbed her the wrong way I guess. Her friend was a lot nicer, but I still don't get why girls go out with such nasty expressions on their faces. They frown, I laugh.
Dutch girl, hot. Self-amused myself, which is a lot like wacking off in public with a big grin on your face. She ran off. Talked a bit to a funny gay kid from france. At least I got to practice my french.
group of 3 from france, weird fucking chicks. Another anti-social group that goes out and socially self-destruct. "Can't talk to strangers" is their motto I guess.
2 girls, did ok. I liked my version of me there, cuz I was so unreactive and sort of flat-line, showing active disinterest. Wasn't really into them.
Large group, opened the guy first, but didn't go after girl I wanted, sucks for me. Met other cute girl from that same group, but left, friends sucking her into their territory.
Talked to older nice chick from Tenerife. At least she was nice. Showed active disinterest in her as well, clawed, but not really interested in her.
Summary:
Well. At least I went out. It has been a while since my last approach.
I promise not to bitch on how hard learning this and improving is. Had to say that. The only thing I learned from tonight is how to take a beating. Anyways. I survived, cuz I'm here writing.
But one thing's for sure, I really want to stop complaining on how long it's taking for me to get to the holy land. No more whining.
You know, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think listening to the Power of Now has actually helped me. Weird.
I really didn't find it's relevance to gaming before, and probably still don't. But I do notice something in me has changed. We'll see. I'm going out saturday night, probably on one of my "batman missions", so we'll see how that goes.
Until next time...thank you.
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