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December 7th, 2016
I know what i have to do, but I am just not doing it.
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Ozzie

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Consistency is key to succeed in any skill be it pu or badmington. I don’t know anybody that have succeeded on anything who hasn’t been consistent at practicing.

That´s why a typical bar brawler with no formal boxing training can nail a guy with a punch and knock him down cold. He has been in many fights and knows what works.

Same way your typical club amog can approach your set and intimidate you and get your girl and you been reading amoging technique for years. The guy knows what works. He has done it many times. The hardest amogs I have ever encountered are the physical ones, they come in half drunk at times, grab your girl by the hand and wont let go. They stick around even though you block them with your body. They know it works. They stick and keep talking to your girl and grab her and don’t give up. They are consistent and committed to amoging you.

This is the elusive obvious.

The information on what do do is all over the place. If you don’t want to read in the forums go to a club and watch.

Everybody knows what to do, it can be found in any forum in the net FOR FREE. I don’t mind giving away the content of my bcs to anybody on paper. He wouldn’t know what to do with it. content is free.

Everybody can open with anything even introducing yourself works. Introducing yourself actually works CONSISTENTLY. If you do it often it will yield lays.

Everybody knows how to hook a set. Keep talking no matter what. You do this often it will yield lays. Consistently.

Everybody knows isolation tactics and extractions. Keep dragging girls around the club with lame excuses like “let´s go meet my best friend”, “lets go dance”, “lets go the bar”…and finally “lets get out of here”. You do this often enough, CONSISTENTLY, it will yield lays.

But most guys wont do this. consistently. They end up not doing anything or what´s worse doing it inconsistently.

Inconsistent practice yields inconsistent results. No secret there.

What do most guys do instead?

Well, some go and try to find something that would work most of the time that would eliminate the drudgery of trial and error. Frustration of practice MUST BE AVOIDED at all cost or so they imagine. therefore more time is spent looking for the right thing to do aka “right method” than actually doing anything. When he finds something right for him, then he tries it for a while aka a couple of nights on a couple of sets and decides it only works 50 percent of the time. Notice that the guy opened 2 sets and it worked on 1 out of 2 girls. Pretty fucking decent for free internet advice. Guy stops practicing and keeps looking for “better”. He is unconsciously looking for the magic pill.

I am a firm believer that almost anything works, that´s why I don’t worry about any specific method anymore. I know if you practice hard enough, long enough you are gonna end up laid somehow. Even against the odds of your dumbest ass attempts. Consistency goes beyond any particular method. It is at the heart of any skill. No consistency, no dice.
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tongue

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Fuckin A mate. I appreciate your little kick-in-the-butt posts. Im gonna print this one and hang it on the wall, simple as that.
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Red Leader

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awesome,

consistency also ties in to escalation. You get better with consistency. You get more consistent the more you get better, you get more escalation. etc etc... You escalate with more consistency. That's also why you gotta plow... or just CLOSE!
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Hazzard

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Join Date: 12/04/2007 | Posts: 45

Wouldn't it be funny though, if someone literally DID invent a magic pill?

I'm going to do it, I'm going to buy a shitload of a harmless powder such as sugar, salt or even bicarb soda, encapsulate it in... a capsule, and package it in bright fluorescent material and call it 'Magic Pill! (tm)' that way I could be the ultimate fuckin smart arse to anyone I meet.

I could even set up a website, call it $$$MONEY$$$PICKUP$$$GUARANTEED$$$SHB11.com (for all you oldschool members who remember Feminator), and charge people a kings-ransom.

But on a serious note, you're totally right. On a long enough timeline, everything works. The problem is most people don't give it enough time. It gets rehashed almost everyday, but it's the fails that teach you the most.

Something which may help those with fear of approaching, set yourself a time limit per venue. When I first started, I'd line up 6 venues and make sure I went to all, limiting the time I spent in each venue to about 30-40 mins. It's amazing how easy it becomes when you know you'll be in a different environment in under an hour. Of course, if you roll in and open a set and everything's going well, STAY IN THE SET!! (like duh!!)


-Hazzaroo
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Postmodern Thinker

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I see your point, but at some point that kind of consistency is desired, because otherwise it still feels like you have no control over your life and are playing a numbers game.
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Tha-Playah

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Join Date: 10/20/2006 | Posts: 764

This is exactly how it is for me. I can read and learn a ton of new things but I know one of the fastest ways I can improve is by talking to everyone. The best way I can describe it is that I just don't. That doesn't mean I never approach/open but it's inconsistent or based on who's around me or something like that.

I remember recently thinking of how some guy was gonna react when I'd ask him the time.. Well how he COULD react. I didn't end up asking. Then there's other times I'll feel natural and comfortable and I'll talk to anyone for ages. Like today.
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Thomas Anderson

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For those of us who have engaged in 'challenges', this rings so true. That's the whole POINT of a challenge. If you don't believe what Oz is telling you here, go read some people's 30day challenge threads.

cheers Oz, good post!
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Flannery

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10Pin Wrote:
Consistency of ACTION is what we're talking - not consistency of RESULTS.

Define yourself by your actions, not your results.


Bang on. If you define yourself by results your externally validated and your ego is involved. Define yourself by your actions and you are free, everything is in your own hands then.

A great saying; "It takes many years of hard work to become an overnight success"
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NoSweat

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So how are you supposed to handle the drunken AMOG that grabs your girl? I have never dealt with this but I imagine if in that situation I would have to knock the bloke out!
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Flannery

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NoSweat Wrote:
So how are you supposed to handle the drunken AMOG that grabs your girl? I have never dealt with this but I imagine if in that situation I would have to knock the bloke out!


I'd say something like "Hey, you right there random drunk guy, wanna give her some breathing space?" then take her hand and walk away .. assuming she'd take ur hand and go. I'd take the chance I guess.
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Ozzie

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NoSweat Wrote:
So how are you supposed to handle the drunken AMOG that grabs your girl? I have never dealt with this but I imagine if in that situation I would have to knock the bloke out!



actually it happened last weekend in london. my student was winging me on a set and both made out with the girls-we both pulled them at the end of the night and i banged mine- and we were surrounded by hungry chodes-only in london btw guys are that aggressive- who were coming into our set left and right. they smelled blood. one of them was particularly annoying and was pulling my student´s girl by the hand eventhough this guy is already making out. like i said we were surrounded, packed up area, and this guy is very intense, i grabbed him, big smile on my face, shook his hand introduce myself, asked his name, clawed him, patted him in the back hard, and he didnt know what hit him. i turned around and blocked him with my back. he turned around and left. 10 minutes later he came back for my student´s girl. more patting in the back, blocking with our bodies. we manage to pull our girls out of there. i never saw him again. he went to chode hell i think.

my student was kind of wtf? and i was "just london, man".

i dont use any particular amoging technique because i know it will back fire with really abusive guys looking for a fight. so i shake their hand, i am superfriendly, dont take anything personal and i kind of block them for a while that way. then i turn my back on them and keep talking to my girl like nothing happened. guys usually walk off. mostly.
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