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May 23rd, 2013
An RSD Bootcamp: Should I do it?
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StuartL

StuartL

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Join Date: 08/19/2006 | Posts: 368

Hey all,

I'm haven't been much of a regular on the forum since its launch last year, but I took notice over the past few days since there’s been more questions and posts than usual regarding our bootcamp courses.

I remember when I attended the bootcamp in New York back in 2004; I was underage at the time (20 yrs. old). At the time, I think I was a bit naive on the financial end of it just because I really didn't care how much it was, I had made a commitment to myself to do it.

Similar to VikingBlud, the cost of attending (hotel + flights + incidentals) was almost as much as the bootcamp price itself. But I didn't let that stop me.

I knew other guys and acquaintances in the community that would laugh at the omission of spending $2000 for 3 days of another person's time. But I didn't care.

What I did know was that the vibe RSD emitted was extremely compelling and struck a chord in me unlike anything else I had experienced thus far in my life. I had an unwavering faith that these guys possessed the experience, the knowledge, and the teaching ability to transfer their skills and lessons onto myself.

Moreover, everything else I had tried on my own invariably ended same way: mediocrity. Toss in a traumatizing high school breakup, 18 years of conservative upbringing (the sort where parents inspect your Halloween candy), a tyrant-like father figure, and there I was at age 20.

On a side tangent, I do believe in the positive effects of other resources like cognitive therapy, but like myself, I think most people reach a 'glass ceiling' with it – IOW: while it can help them, any long-term improvement happens when they accept personal responsibility for the way they feel and take action to change those outcomes. How many people do this? You can venture a guess.

The point is: even women aside, my social life was not something I took very much pride in.

So there's the 'before'. It’s not a unique story.

And the 'after' ?

-I've dated girls from all walks of life, culture, and experience
-I dated one of the most attractive girls on my 10,000-student college campus for nearly 4 years
-My social network is full of interesting, fun, cool people that add value to my life and likewise I add value to theirs
-I have a dream job/executive position for someone of my age and education level – much of which can be attributed to the communication skills and confidence I gained from RSD's teachings and in the subsequent months going out.
-My job gives me the financial freedom to be self-sufficient, living anywhere I want to, and traveling the world..

More than all that though, I know I am a BETTER person day-to-day and overall than I was before 2004. I have a lifestyle full of constant renewal, improvement, and happiness. 3 years ago seems like a lifetime.

Huey, David, Mike, Matt, and myself talk to guys on the telephone and otherwise a combined 40 hours each day, Monday through Friday, with minimal holidays or time off. Many of the questions we receive have their roots in a place of excuse, insecurity, or disqualification.

Some examples:

-I'm 'x' age. Am I too old/young for this?

-I'm a newbie to all this. Is the RSD bootcamp just for experienced individuals?

-I'm a community veteran. I've studied everything out there so I doubt there's much 'real content' I could learn on RSD's bootcamp. Plus I've heard (I don't remember where) that your bootcamps are geared more for newbies who just need to do a lot of approaches. I've done 1,562 approaches, so I've earned my pu-AH stripes. I don't need to spend $2000 'cause I'm already a 'pro' at this stuff.

-If I spend $2000 for an RSD bootcamp, I need to know what's going to happen each minute of the program in advance. Can you email me over an outline of EXACTLY what we'll be learning and doing from beginning to end? How many phone numbers and conversions to a 2nd date can I expect each day?

-If I take an RSD bootcamp, I want to be guaranteed an instructor of my choosing and 1-on-1 student-to-instructor ratio. What assurances can you give me that Tyler will teach my program? He's the only RSD instructor I trust that can give me the magic-pill and complete my 'Transformation'.

-I don't like going to bars and clubs, and I understand that the majority of the RSD's bootcamp takes place in these types of settings. I only want to do RSD's bootcamp if you can guarantee me that we will only do approaches during the daytime in bookstores, coffee shops, or at the supermarket.

This stuff is all understandable. $2000 is a sizeable amount of money for most people. Or is it?

Have you read Jackett's success story? This is a guy who works at a convenience store and put $5 each day in a envelope labeled 'RSD bootcamp' for over a year.

From another client: "I go out a several times a week and binge-drink. It's just part of the culture where I live. Bar tabs are at least $40-50/night, 3-4 times a week - I've been doing this for YEARS. $2000 is nothing compared to what I spend on alcohol and other trivialities."

Whenever I can tell guys are still on the fence about our bootcamp, I always say the same thing to them:

You can talk to Matt or myself, read the success stories, and talk to others that have taken RSD programs - but ultimately the choice is up to you.

The thing you need to ask yourself is this: what is my opportunity cost of NOT attending the bootcamp? How many more years of unhappiness or mediocrity am I willing to tolerate in place of $2000?"

Some will make the argument, "But I can learn all this stuff on my own; 90% of the content is all available on the internet!"

Truth be told, sure, there is an abundance of resources available to you free of charge, namely from us via our Youtube channels and weekly vBlogs. But there's a night and day difference from studying the material and actually taking action and getting results.

The lithmus test?

If you went out on your own for the next 30 days and implemented the ideas and concepts we talk about, would you experience a mind-blowing shift in your thoughts and beliefs and see a phenomenal amount of success?

Would you experience tangible, measurable results that you'd be extremely excited about and could build momentu in the weeks and months to come?

Nothing worth having in life can come without work and investment. "Easy gratification comes with low expectations."

I guess the way I viewed my bootcamp in 2004 was: this isn't just an investment in my success with women; it's an investment in my own personal happiness and success in life.

In the same way that many people open a portfolio for financial investment or an individual retirement account, I took the RSD bootcamp to begin a new chapter in my life and experience; to begin the restorative process of rewiring my mind, body, and soul for better things to come - with women, health, wealth, and all relationships.

So put off that new LED TV, the car, the dining room set, those season football tickets - whatever it is that may bring you SHORT-TERM happiness, and -instead- make a commitment to invest in YOUR LONG-TERM happiness, lifestyle, and success.

It's my sincere hope that one day, ALL OF YOU will be proud, successful, improving your lives, and improving the lives of others.

No gimmicks, no magic tricks - just simply guys that took life by the stones and challenged themselves to live by a higher standard.

Hit me up on Skype or by phone and let's start talking.

-Stuart
Skype: rsd-stuartlewis

P.S. Anyone in North America that’s under 21 and SERIOUS about taking an RSD bootcamp, email me with the following information:

-first name
-telephone number
-age
-location
-can you fly to Montreal or Calgary?
-can you fly to New York or LA?

P.P.S. If you're interested in taking a bootcamp, world summit, hotseat, or purchasing other products or live programs and have questions, simply pick up the phone and give us a call at:

+1 888 546 7286 (USA)

-or-

+44 207 9934 034 (UK)

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+61 (0) 280 155 522(Australia)

If it's a long-distance call or you will incur other charges in calling us, send an email to or PM me with your first name and telephone number and we can call you at no charge.
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"An RSD Bootcamp is an awesome FIRST-HAND experience talking to girls and being in the club, comfort-building with women, feeling social pressure, being an approach machine, and learning to TALK and have FUN. It is learning the HARD WAY to have these skills, by approach approach approach and STAYING in set and not PUSSYING out. It can be MADDENING at TIMES. You will cry. You will feel like SHIT. And you will SUCCEED like you never did before and feel like a MILLION. It is trial by fire, and it is worth every penny and more."
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#1

Tha-Playah

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Join Date: 10/20/2006 | Posts: 764

I don't know much about these BCs...

Has anyone ever gone to one of these BCs and got refund or not improved because they "couldn't do it" or whatever?

Say like they just DIDN'T approach or weren't "sucessful" in their approaches? Or do RSD get 100% approaching and opening etc.

ALSO how many find it piss easy to consistently approach/open in their local town after taking the BC?


If I got the money together through saving up then I would probably wait until a London BC comes along. Have you guys ever done BC in manchester (where I live), whats that like?
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Papa

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If you want to hear about what happens to clients after bootcamps, check out:

http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/testimonials.asp

We get countless success stories from clients and if you have any concern about the quality of the program, then remember that we have a 100% money back guarantee.

The question though isn't whether it worked for thousands of clients who have taken our programs over the last 5 years. It has. The question is whether you are ready to find out for yourself how it can help transform YOUR life.
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FoodBuddha~

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Join Date: 07/11/2007 | Posts: 3950

Recently, Tyler remarked in passing that bootcamp prices have not changed in about 5 years or more, and that the current feeding frenzy on the state-of-the-art of ace social skills will not remain a steal much longer at $1500 for regular large cities, $2000 for special trips.

It is my personal opinion, having shelled out:
$1500 for BC NYC
600 superconference
750 hotel
200 food, redbull, incidentals
150 gasoline/parking
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$3200

for an unforgettable experience that changed my life...

I'd pay $5000. To be fair and not engage in hyperbole, I'd pony up 5 grand for that same $3200 experience, of which RSD got $2100. More than 5k, to me, would be out of reach. 5 grand would be about the fair price. I got about a $2000 discount, is how I feel.

In fact, I plan to go again after a full year of skill-building on my own time. We will see, I might not feel I need to next July.
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rottenflesh

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isn't the superconference $1200?
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StuartL

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rottenflesh Wrote:
isn't the superconference $1200?


The London and LA Superconference this year are $1200, because they are 4-day events ($300 a day). The New York Superconference that FoodBuddha went to was a 3-day event: $900. Since he took a bootcamp at the same time, he received $300 off = $600.
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United States: +1 (888) 546 7286 ext. 501
United Kingdom: +44 (0) 2079 934 034 ext. 501
Australia: +61 (0) 280 155 522 ext. 501
Japan: +81 345789305 ext. 501

"An RSD Bootcamp is an awesome FIRST-HAND experience talking to girls and being in the club, comfort-building with women, feeling social pressure, being an approach machine, and learning to TALK and have FUN. It is learning the HARD WAY to have these skills, by approach approach approach and STAYING in set and not PUSSYING out. It can be MADDENING at TIMES. You will cry. You will feel like SHIT. And you will SUCCEED like you never did before and feel like a MILLION. It is trial by fire, and it is worth every penny and more."
-Buddha~
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#6
imarugbyball

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Join Date: 03/26/2007 | Posts: 203

Papa Wrote:
If you want to hear about what happens to clients after bootcamps, check out:

http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/testimonials.asp

We get countless success stories from clients and if you have any concern about the quality of the program, then remember that we have a 100% money back guarantee.

The question though isn't whether it worked for thousands of clients who have taken our programs over the last 5 years. It has. The question is whether you are ready to find out for yourself how it can help transform YOUR life.


How does the guarantee work? You give people back the money if they say they didn't get much from it?

If it is that it's pretty impressive.

I don't want to ask the obvious question here but whats to stop any1 just mugging you guys the 1500 bucks?
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#7
Xantam

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Join Date: 09/19/2007 | Posts: 185

WoW this is my first post wuhu!! :p

anyways excellent post!
This might just make me attend the upcoming BC in Copenhagen, Denmark.
which also will be my first BC ever..

I'm currently saving up for it though atm I saved up aprox. 1500$..

The comunity in Denmark is growing rapidly these days. Even some people are currently doing workshops etc.
But they have never striked my interest. I've allways told myself, if RSD does a BC in Denmark - I'm defiantely attending!!

My God - and it's finally here. But still I find myself making excuses not to attend.. confused
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#8

Haze~

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Join Date: 09/19/2007 | Posts: 3536

Taking a bootcamp can definitely be a daunting task. Afterall, your life is about to change before your very eyes. Your gonna be pushed so far out of your comfort zone you experience a complete internal shift in one weekend. You have absolutely nothing to lose and EVERYTHING TO GAIN... so is money really the issue here or are you afraid?

This goes back to something Anthony Robbins talks about, "the pain of inaction and pleasure of action."

You see most people attribute pain to taking action ie. approaching a girl, quitting smoking, working hard, etc. They stay in their comfort zone and do nothing because it is the ABSENCE OF PAIN. Humans by nature run away from pain and move towards pleasure. So how do we fix this?

By attributing MASSIVE PAIN TO INACTION and PLEASURE TO TAKING ACTION.

Think about it this way... if you don't get this handled and if you don't do what's necessary to succeed, where are you gonna end up in this life? 5 years from now? 10 years from now?

For me, not taking the necessary steps to GET THIS HANDLED meant I would be doomed to be a CHODE my entire life. This is UNACCEPTABLE. I'd rather die than to accept that fate.

The pleasure of taking action? Isn't it obvious? All that you could want from being successful with women plus many other aspects that spill over into other areas of your life. The benefits are MASSIVE.

The only thing you must do is to push through the pain, push through the fear. Nothing great in life comes without sacrifice.

Every hero must have something to conquer, to triumph, to rise up against. This is your story, your life, your destiny. Strive to fullfill it with every ounce of your being.

When you think about it in these terms, the decision is easy. Take that step. You have nothing to lose and EVERYTHING TO GAIN.

Be the hurricane gentlemen... your time as the leaf has come to an end.

I leave you with my favorite quote of all time, by none other than Mr. Tony Robbins:

"Leadership is not born... it's a decision to lead and not follow, to believe and not doubt, to create and not destroy... to be a force for good... or maybe a force for God. But in order to do that you must first defy all your fears, defy all the odds, and you gotta set a BRAND NEW STANDARD for yourself, and you gotta STEP UP... if you do that you'll have a totally different experience in your life."

NYC BC - December 28th - 30th, 2007 - Ready to rock you like a hurricane... to be continued...

Haze
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Chic

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Join Date: 07/27/2007 | Posts: 175

I had some of these concerns before I signed up. I'm one of those guys who has read everything out there in the community (well, not quite everything, but the good stuff pretty thoroughly), and the self-help genre as well. In one of David D.'s programs, Tyler begins with, "I have probably read more pickup theory than all of you guys combined" (or something), and I thought to myself, "oh yeah?". This is combined with putting all this knowledge into practice, and comparing it critically to my actual real-life experiences.

Nonetheless, I still signed up for the BC. I know there are little subtleties in the way I interact that I might never pick up on, that someone with years of experience teaching social skills would probably be able to identify and correct. The knowledge that you're on the right course is worth way more than the price of admission, IMHO.


improvingame Wrote:
I just signed up for another one in SF Dec. 21-23 2008.


If you mean 2007, I'll see you there buddy. ([url]http://rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=12606)[/url]. Feel free to PM me.
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Pyro~

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so you have to be 21, i didnt even know that. at least that given me a REAL excuse to be not doing a bc until next year. can't wait :D shit i dont care what instructor, but ill be hanging out for a gold coast BC most likely, meaning itll be alex right?, which fucking rocks. dude seems like a champ
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