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Let go of the grudge, it will only burn you up from the inside and manifest itself as neediness to get laid in the present moment.
And don't pay for sex. I heartily believe that paying for sex with some junkie hooker ISN'T going to boost your self-esteem, nor is it going to be something you will be proud of talking about in front of your friends - certainly not anymore than you are about your virgin-status.
In fact, it most likely will be a badge of dishonour that you wear around your neck...a constant reminder that you were so unnattractive that you had to PAY a woman cash to let you fuck her for 15 minutes.
So...what you need to do is use this energy in a positive way. Holding grudges and fucking hookers is a NEGATIVE way. Channel this as a motivation to move onto greater things in life and to learn game. When you get your game sorted, banging a girl is ZERO worry. Trust me on that.
If you think that not having had sex like 'all the other guys' makes you less of a man...you are much mistaken. That's just a mental weakness inside of you buying into what society and your peer group tells you is 'the norm'. You need to step away from that, reframe your situation and remind yourself that you honestly, to the core, do not give a fuck about this. What defines a man, what defines a boy - all this has to come from only YOUR OWN definition, and not the pressures of those around you.
It will come, naturally, in time provided that you stay on the right path.
And don't pay for sex. I heartily believe that paying for sex with some junkie hooker ISN'T going to boost your self-esteem, nor is it going to be something you will be proud of talking about in front of your friends - certainly not anymore than you are about your virgin-status.
In fact, it most likely will be a badge of dishonour that you wear around your neck...a constant reminder that you were so unnattractive that you had to PAY a woman cash to let you fuck her for 15 minutes.
So...what you need to do is use this energy in a positive way. Holding grudges and fucking hookers is a NEGATIVE way. Channel this as a motivation to move onto greater things in life and to learn game. When you get your game sorted, banging a girl is ZERO worry. Trust me on that.
If you think that not having had sex like 'all the other guys' makes you less of a man...you are much mistaken. That's just a mental weakness inside of you buying into what society and your peer group tells you is 'the norm'. You need to step away from that, reframe your situation and remind yourself that you honestly, to the core, do not give a fuck about this. What defines a man, what defines a boy - all this has to come from only YOUR OWN definition, and not the pressures of those around you.
It will come, naturally, in time provided that you stay on the right path.
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"I choose to believe I will easily have sex with a beautiful woman very soon"
repeat 5 times in the morning, every once in a while during the day and five times before you go to bed. Mornings+evenings take 5 mins to also visualize the situ from opening her to sex. Success guaranteed! :) :) :)
(If you believe hard enough and let go of the outcome.)
No, but just try it for seven days. I mean, what could be easier?
repeat 5 times in the morning, every once in a while during the day and five times before you go to bed. Mornings+evenings take 5 mins to also visualize the situ from opening her to sex. Success guaranteed! :) :) :)
(If you believe hard enough and let go of the outcome.)
No, but just try it for seven days. I mean, what could be easier?
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Algeristo that sounds like a great idea! Visualisation rocks. And I'm not being sarcastic at all.
Mmmm I see what you mean. I used to know a guy who was a filthy rich CEO and good looking who banged hookers, so maybe I associated that behaviour with high status rather than low....but now that you say it that way...urgh...you're right. Thanks for the advice man.
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In fact, it most likely will be a badge of dishonour that you wear around your neck...a constant reminder that you were so unnattractive that you had to PAY a woman cash to let you fuck her for 15 minutes.
Mmmm I see what you mean. I used to know a guy who was a filthy rich CEO and good looking who banged hookers, so maybe I associated that behaviour with high status rather than low....but now that you say it that way...urgh...you're right. Thanks for the advice man.
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Kaleidoscope Wrote:
I shalt bangeth a hooker.
Okay I'm not locking this in 100%...but...
I highly encourage you not to do this. I don't see anything wrong with it once you've had some experiences, as you then won't equate it with your self worth, but the idea that you need to pay to get some is a bad one that's going to f with your confidence if you go through with it. Also you don't want your view of sex to be defined as rushed and awkward, which is how these experiences tend to go. So don't do it. 100% no.
I'll be completely honest with you. I used to think it was stupid to go to hookers to get sex, haven't done it myself but I remember davidx saying if you really wanna get laid just go to a hooker. At least you know what you're paying for instead of doing shit like buying dinner / drinks all night in the hopes you'll get laid (not directed towards u).
You never know. It could feel awesome and at least you can still say you banged a girl without having to mention it was a hooker. Just tell the complete truth and if you aren't comfortable say "I don't kiss and tell" or "I can't tell ya that".. "why?"... "Can't tell ya"... "Because I can't".
Personally, I don't think virginity status has anything to do with being a man or boy. It's just that a man tends to have banged more chicks than a virgin. Him banging chicks is a by-product of being a man.
Don't take yourself too seriously, are you more or less of a man if you pay for a hooker? You're still gonna be you. Nobody really gives a shit. It's how you feel. You might love it you might hate it but it's an experience. If you hate it I'm sure you'll laugh about it later... That's unless she's some kinda psychopath that ends up killing you while she's having sex.. Actually.. I'm into that.
KK, that's enough from me. :D
You never know. It could feel awesome and at least you can still say you banged a girl without having to mention it was a hooker. Just tell the complete truth and if you aren't comfortable say "I don't kiss and tell" or "I can't tell ya that".. "why?"... "Can't tell ya"... "Because I can't".
Personally, I don't think virginity status has anything to do with being a man or boy. It's just that a man tends to have banged more chicks than a virgin. Him banging chicks is a by-product of being a man.
Don't take yourself too seriously, are you more or less of a man if you pay for a hooker? You're still gonna be you. Nobody really gives a shit. It's how you feel. You might love it you might hate it but it's an experience. If you hate it I'm sure you'll laugh about it later... That's unless she's some kinda psychopath that ends up killing you while she's having sex.. Actually.. I'm into that.
KK, that's enough from me. :D
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nah there are better ways to lose your virginity there are pletny of drunk hoes that wouldgo home with prtty much anyone, and you save yourself some money.
Here's what i think can help you, just stop caring if you mess up like if its horrible or something who is gonna care, like jsut go adn keep on escalating until she is crying in a corner trying to call the cops..... ok maybe not till that point.
I dunno why i think you are still a virgin cause you are not totally outcome independent and you think it will be ackward and you may mess up and that is messing with you. I cant really now anyway im just a poster on an online ofrum but you know yourself maybe i guessed and maybe that will help you.
p.s. i know i have to work on my writing skills
p.s.2 think about it
Here's what i think can help you, just stop caring if you mess up like if its horrible or something who is gonna care, like jsut go adn keep on escalating until she is crying in a corner trying to call the cops..... ok maybe not till that point.
I dunno why i think you are still a virgin cause you are not totally outcome independent and you think it will be ackward and you may mess up and that is messing with you. I cant really now anyway im just a poster on an online ofrum but you know yourself maybe i guessed and maybe that will help you.
p.s. i know i have to work on my writing skills
p.s.2 think about it
imo getting laid won't solve your problems. It might make em worse.
You may start thinking patterns like "oh, i'm such a loser, i have to get a hooker to get laid".
I've never been with a hooker, instead I kept plowing the field, metting women, trying trying trying. Slowly I'm getting better at this.
Keep going out and going for the close, always. That's all.
You may start thinking patterns like "oh, i'm such a loser, i have to get a hooker to get laid".
I've never been with a hooker, instead I kept plowing the field, metting women, trying trying trying. Slowly I'm getting better at this.
Keep going out and going for the close, always. That's all.
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Thanks for all the advice....its just so frustrating sometimes to be the guy who wanks over internet porn while the cool guys are out succeeding with real women...I used to delude myself about having 'too high standards' or 'waiting for the right person' etc, but this was merely ego protection.
During my worst chode years (uni), people used to see my chode-ness as being gentlemanly. I was the 'nice guy' who was always platonic. The one women would think 'oh, I'd never sleep with that guy, but he restores my faith that males aren't all just after sex' and so on. The problem is I almost feel guilty that I'm actually, like any other men, a male human being who wants sex. I just didn't have the game to get it, so to an onlooker I seemed to be less trashy/sleazy/morally superior than the average male. In reality, that is probably false, IMO most guys have the same drives unless they have grown up godfearing like ned flanders or something. Anyway its good to have discussed this issue and let it out...
During my worst chode years (uni), people used to see my chode-ness as being gentlemanly. I was the 'nice guy' who was always platonic. The one women would think 'oh, I'd never sleep with that guy, but he restores my faith that males aren't all just after sex' and so on. The problem is I almost feel guilty that I'm actually, like any other men, a male human being who wants sex. I just didn't have the game to get it, so to an onlooker I seemed to be less trashy/sleazy/morally superior than the average male. In reality, that is probably false, IMO most guys have the same drives unless they have grown up godfearing like ned flanders or something. Anyway its good to have discussed this issue and let it out...
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Some of you guys have fucked escorts and didn't know it. There are plenty of chicks in LA that have sugar daddys and do shit on the side. I mean lot's. Most don't want any guys they meet to know it though, so you wouldn't know it if she did.
There is nothing inherantly nasty about an excort, some are 10 times cleaner than a club whore. I don't recommend pulling a chick off the street ever, that is for sure nasty. But, a hot chick on an escort site maybe be completely cool, interesting, fun, clean, and may test regularly.
There is no blanket policy that escorts are nasty. I know a chick that will fuck for money, she is just a chick pursuing a career in something and needs lots of money to do it, she averages 6k a month from just 2 guys.
I got a few escorts my time just for fun and to see what it was about, actually it was no big deal to me. I had two chicks over once, and a hot Asian chick. If I were a virgin and over 18 I'd get one, I think the longer you wait, the more it fucks with your head. Use common sense, it will be fine, you'll be rid of the virgin stigma which is far bigger a deal to you than fucking a hooker is.
Many wealthy guys prefer escorts, if I had stupid money, I wouldn't hesitate to do it, I'd have chicks over right now on my couch doing each other with a strapon if I had cash to burn. I'd be like, "hit that shit, fuck that bitch hard, stop bullshittin around".
My business partner has 3 full time GF's, he still gets escorts over weekly, he has no shortage of pussy. Escorts are NOT an indication of pussy shortage. Nor are they an indiation of your worth.
There is nothing inherantly nasty about an excort, some are 10 times cleaner than a club whore. I don't recommend pulling a chick off the street ever, that is for sure nasty. But, a hot chick on an escort site maybe be completely cool, interesting, fun, clean, and may test regularly.
There is no blanket policy that escorts are nasty. I know a chick that will fuck for money, she is just a chick pursuing a career in something and needs lots of money to do it, she averages 6k a month from just 2 guys.
I got a few escorts my time just for fun and to see what it was about, actually it was no big deal to me. I had two chicks over once, and a hot Asian chick. If I were a virgin and over 18 I'd get one, I think the longer you wait, the more it fucks with your head. Use common sense, it will be fine, you'll be rid of the virgin stigma which is far bigger a deal to you than fucking a hooker is.
Many wealthy guys prefer escorts, if I had stupid money, I wouldn't hesitate to do it, I'd have chicks over right now on my couch doing each other with a strapon if I had cash to burn. I'd be like, "hit that shit, fuck that bitch hard, stop bullshittin around".
My business partner has 3 full time GF's, he still gets escorts over weekly, he has no shortage of pussy. Escorts are NOT an indication of pussy shortage. Nor are they an indiation of your worth.
i'll fuck you.
ten dollar. sucky sucky.
ten dollar. sucky sucky.
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Okay I'm not locking this in 100%...but...
Just an idea I had. I was thinking that in many ways, my lack of experience with women as anything more than a platonic friend screws with my inner game too much. My inner game is pretty damn good apart from that. Basically the only things really stopping me succeeding is green-ness/lack of field experience (might take several years to catch up since I was pretty unsocialised until a year ago) and....this inner game issue about not being 'worthy of a woman's sexual desire'. Even though I can 'channel the pimp' when I'm in the field, I can get pretty touchy about this issue if people bring it up in convo, eg discussing their first kiss, first time in bed etc, and I feel obliged to surreptitiously escape to get a drink, or lie about my circumstances (unless its my inner circle of trusted friends who know I'm a virgin and are cool with that).
Ok this is gonna sound even more weird but...it made me feel better the other day when I discussed with my mum how she cock blocked me as a teenager because she didn't want me with some skanky hoe (I have had this grudge about it for a while because she def stopped me losing my virginity). In a way it takes the responsibility off me a bit. It happened twice, otherwise I would have lost my virginity at 17/18 like most guys I know. However, at least that would have allowed me to get an experience which is part of the rite of passage of growing up...rather than me having to remain a 'boy' for so many more years. It seemed much easier to attract women at that age, even though I was a chode with a semi-monobrow and bad zits, I don't know why but women seem to get pickier/more superficial from 18-23, before they start to get into the 'desperate for marriage and kids' era in their later 20s.
Its weird looking back and seeing how the events in your life have shaped who you are, and its not always YOU that's 100% responsible for where you're at now....but part of becoming an Alpha male IMO is beginning to TAKE responsibility for your path...
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