THE FORUMS
Went to club tonight. I totalled 7 # closes and 1 kclose. Good shit
Tonight i want to talk about State and Drinking
I vowed not to drink this weekend but i did it anyway. I also read an article from Jeffy right before i left about getting in/maintiaining state. Basically it reiterated a recurring theme of 'joking around with my bros' to get in state. Ok, i finally get it.
So i tried it - goof off as much as possible, do random shit, DANCE AROUND LIKE A FOOL. And laugh. That shit was hilarious, and it was good stuff. THIS is the best social value demonstration.
Forget social proofing, forget short-setting. All of that stuff is good but clowning around with your bros is undoubtedly the best mechanism. The more i think about past times where i've had those most ON nights (like this last monday with 3 HB9 # closes and 2 HB7 Fcloses) i realize i started the night by joking around with my wings. Good shit.
How did i # close? I opened with WHATEVER, including the "i love your X" (insert some article of clothing they're wearing, or their hair, etc), which i've realized also serves to disable bitch-shields. High kino, big smiles, and just VIBE. Say whatever comes to mind and smile with it, they'll roll with you. Hit a high note, laugh, and go for the close.
I went for the close mildly 'prematurely' a couple of times, i basically interrupted our vibe by #closing, but i frame-controlled it away with 'i gotta get back to my friends but tell me your # before i go. Tell me in my ear right now'. Worked every time.
In fact, i # closed 5 out of 7 of those #'s within 30 seconds of meeting them.
Good times. I reopened all of them later too. I felt i could've kclosed more but i didn't want to slut myself out. Anyone else experience that ? I see a good amount of the same people when i go out and i don't want to necessarily seem like the town slut by making out with everyone at the club...
Anyway, this is long enough, so...
Lessons Learned:
Joking with your friends is priority #1
Dress to suit your mood and be congruent
Dance like no one's watching
And pull the fucking TRIGGER in every interaction
til next time!
West
Tonight i want to talk about State and Drinking
I vowed not to drink this weekend but i did it anyway. I also read an article from Jeffy right before i left about getting in/maintiaining state. Basically it reiterated a recurring theme of 'joking around with my bros' to get in state. Ok, i finally get it.
So i tried it - goof off as much as possible, do random shit, DANCE AROUND LIKE A FOOL. And laugh. That shit was hilarious, and it was good stuff. THIS is the best social value demonstration.
Forget social proofing, forget short-setting. All of that stuff is good but clowning around with your bros is undoubtedly the best mechanism. The more i think about past times where i've had those most ON nights (like this last monday with 3 HB9 # closes and 2 HB7 Fcloses) i realize i started the night by joking around with my wings. Good shit.
How did i # close? I opened with WHATEVER, including the "i love your X" (insert some article of clothing they're wearing, or their hair, etc), which i've realized also serves to disable bitch-shields. High kino, big smiles, and just VIBE. Say whatever comes to mind and smile with it, they'll roll with you. Hit a high note, laugh, and go for the close.
I went for the close mildly 'prematurely' a couple of times, i basically interrupted our vibe by #closing, but i frame-controlled it away with 'i gotta get back to my friends but tell me your # before i go. Tell me in my ear right now'. Worked every time.
In fact, i # closed 5 out of 7 of those #'s within 30 seconds of meeting them.
Good times. I reopened all of them later too. I felt i could've kclosed more but i didn't want to slut myself out. Anyone else experience that ? I see a good amount of the same people when i go out and i don't want to necessarily seem like the town slut by making out with everyone at the club...
Anyway, this is long enough, so...
Lessons Learned:
Joking with your friends is priority #1
Dress to suit your mood and be congruent
Dance like no one's watching
And pull the fucking TRIGGER in every interaction
til next time!
West
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Inspirational..! ;)
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Brad '09 BC Alumni ✘ Alexander 3x BC Assistant ✘ Former RSD Intern ✘ Copenhagen, Denmark ✘ SWAG
Pipes, awesome. I've been doing this for quite some time too and have been meticulously recording this as well.
Keep us posted through your journey of social mastery.
Keep us posted through your journey of social mastery.
Went to club X tonight, same security crew that works it on Sundays. The cockface i made friends with on Monday let us in VIP line, and we got in on the list from this cute ass latina we know whom Justin Joints has been stalling on pulling the fucking trigger.
We roll in there, do some loops, clown around. There's some sexy girls in there, i'll cut to the highlights:
First of all in clowning around i said to my wing Justin 'lets dance with ALL of the fat girls we see' so we danced with 2-3 diff sets of them. This kind of backfired later when a 2set of fatties surrounded me and wanted to take me home.
That is NOT how i want my first threesome to go down.
1st # close came from a tall sexy chick who was dancing like a stripper. Turns out she's in the Navy and lives on the base about 45 mins away. I opened her with god knows what, bantered for a quick sec and then told her we'd talk later i had to go rejoin my friends. I bounced, later i looped back around and simply said tell me your number and she gave it to me. Everything went down smoothly. Hand kino, Situational, takeaway, direct, close.
2nd # close came even MORE smoothly than the first. I locked laser-eyes with a sexy latina, told her to come here, high kino, straight direct, asked her name, quick banter, she said she was leaving so i told her to give me her number. That's my favorite type of game.
My goofball of a wing, Todd the God, was saying some fucking RETARDED shit to her while i was vibing with her. That's OK. I remained in strong frame, ignored him other than a small smile. I maintained the eye lock, she had that awe-struck deer in headlights look as she saw my glowing golden nimbus of ethereal sexual power eminating from my pee-wee herman t-shirt and poke-a-dot tie.
Smooth.
This other girl was ALL OVER ME that i met and # closed the night before. High, INTENSE kino, much ass rubbing. Right after i walked in the club she gave me a huge hug and i slapped her on the ass as she walked away. Pure comedy.
I was also 2 seconds away from opening and closing the hottest gogo dancer after a series of nonverbal exchanges. That's for next time, i WILL close some gogos.
And perhaps the most...interesting of all is that i saw my ex there from like 3 or 4 years ago. She has a baby now, and she's doing god knows what. She still looks pretty good. I, on the other hand, look like a shiny golden godling, ruler of the night, and she definitely saw some dances, kino, and one of the # closes from tonight. I said hi and hugged her.
For some reason it always feels good to see old acquantances and see their faces shift at how far i've come.
And for the grand finale, we saw another old acquantance from about 3 years ago. She said she wanted to hang out. She ended up coming thru at like 4AM and together we engaged in serious product testing on a couple of Trojans.
Lessons Learned:
-Compliment openers work well as short-game to lower all bitchshield defenses and prime the target for later re-opening.
-Remember to neg (ball bust) targets who get big headed/stuck up (this is easily 50% of the women in Seattle)
-'NO' means 'Not Yet".
I ignored this HOT HOT HOT target to open her friend and even her FRIEND was acting stuck up. I kept it up, good BL, eye contact, i said you don't like meeting people? She said no, blah blah blah, i kept it up. She's from portland, i 'knew what she meant' about meeting people and going out, have you ever been to Atlanta, yes she has, its totally different! yes it is! VIBE VIBE VIBE SEE BITCH YOU'RE MEETING ME AND YOU WANT ME BOW THE FUCK DOWN
haha, sorry, sometimes these stuck up girls get on my damn nerves. anyway
-I'm playing around with 'social retard' type of negs for these stuck up girls. I turn to their friends and say, "your friend doesn't know how to be social, she needs your help !" etc. The friend always laughs at them and it's pretty funny.
But 'on some real shit' as they say, i really think that the psychology of a lot of these girls is that they never DID learn to be social, at least not in a non-weird way, and not to strangers. The type of environment in Seattle is such that many communities are fairly tight-knit, so growing up everyone always knew someone thru someone else -- ie social circle. The only girls that are ALWAYS cool are ones that have lived in other cities or are from somewhere else.
That's all for tonight. The quest continues. Til next time...
cheers!
We roll in there, do some loops, clown around. There's some sexy girls in there, i'll cut to the highlights:
First of all in clowning around i said to my wing Justin 'lets dance with ALL of the fat girls we see' so we danced with 2-3 diff sets of them. This kind of backfired later when a 2set of fatties surrounded me and wanted to take me home.
That is NOT how i want my first threesome to go down.
1st # close came from a tall sexy chick who was dancing like a stripper. Turns out she's in the Navy and lives on the base about 45 mins away. I opened her with god knows what, bantered for a quick sec and then told her we'd talk later i had to go rejoin my friends. I bounced, later i looped back around and simply said tell me your number and she gave it to me. Everything went down smoothly. Hand kino, Situational, takeaway, direct, close.
2nd # close came even MORE smoothly than the first. I locked laser-eyes with a sexy latina, told her to come here, high kino, straight direct, asked her name, quick banter, she said she was leaving so i told her to give me her number. That's my favorite type of game.
My goofball of a wing, Todd the God, was saying some fucking RETARDED shit to her while i was vibing with her. That's OK. I remained in strong frame, ignored him other than a small smile. I maintained the eye lock, she had that awe-struck deer in headlights look as she saw my glowing golden nimbus of ethereal sexual power eminating from my pee-wee herman t-shirt and poke-a-dot tie.
Smooth.
This other girl was ALL OVER ME that i met and # closed the night before. High, INTENSE kino, much ass rubbing. Right after i walked in the club she gave me a huge hug and i slapped her on the ass as she walked away. Pure comedy.
I was also 2 seconds away from opening and closing the hottest gogo dancer after a series of nonverbal exchanges. That's for next time, i WILL close some gogos.
And perhaps the most...interesting of all is that i saw my ex there from like 3 or 4 years ago. She has a baby now, and she's doing god knows what. She still looks pretty good. I, on the other hand, look like a shiny golden godling, ruler of the night, and she definitely saw some dances, kino, and one of the # closes from tonight. I said hi and hugged her.
For some reason it always feels good to see old acquantances and see their faces shift at how far i've come.
And for the grand finale, we saw another old acquantance from about 3 years ago. She said she wanted to hang out. She ended up coming thru at like 4AM and together we engaged in serious product testing on a couple of Trojans.
Lessons Learned:
-Compliment openers work well as short-game to lower all bitchshield defenses and prime the target for later re-opening.
-Remember to neg (ball bust) targets who get big headed/stuck up (this is easily 50% of the women in Seattle)
-'NO' means 'Not Yet".
I ignored this HOT HOT HOT target to open her friend and even her FRIEND was acting stuck up. I kept it up, good BL, eye contact, i said you don't like meeting people? She said no, blah blah blah, i kept it up. She's from portland, i 'knew what she meant' about meeting people and going out, have you ever been to Atlanta, yes she has, its totally different! yes it is! VIBE VIBE VIBE SEE BITCH YOU'RE MEETING ME AND YOU WANT ME BOW THE FUCK DOWN
haha, sorry, sometimes these stuck up girls get on my damn nerves. anyway
-I'm playing around with 'social retard' type of negs for these stuck up girls. I turn to their friends and say, "your friend doesn't know how to be social, she needs your help !" etc. The friend always laughs at them and it's pretty funny.
But 'on some real shit' as they say, i really think that the psychology of a lot of these girls is that they never DID learn to be social, at least not in a non-weird way, and not to strangers. The type of environment in Seattle is such that many communities are fairly tight-knit, so growing up everyone always knew someone thru someone else -- ie social circle. The only girls that are ALWAYS cool are ones that have lived in other cities or are from somewhere else.
That's all for tonight. The quest continues. Til next time...
cheers!
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I just realized that i forgot ALL about #close #3
After the club, which ended early because some dude got a bottle broken over his face and another guy accidently shot himself outside the club (fun times), we were wandering aroud.
This group of like 6 HBs in dresses were around. I remembered one HB9 from the club and i had compliment-opened her about her dress. I walked by her as some dude in a crimson crushed velvet pimp suit was taking a picture of them and whispered in her ear "that guy's suit is KILLER" and kept walking with a small half smile and a half-glance back to see her reaction.
She whispered to her short HB9 friend who came running after me and said Wait! Come talk to my friend!
Score. I casually went back, leaned on the wall and gave her the james dean look. She came over to me, we vibed for a sec and i # closed her with high kino. Great stuff.
Tonight i'm going on a day2 with this short HB9 Asian chick who i kclosed at the club on Friday. Look for that report soon.
Peace!
p.s. oh, and i also # closed this other HB8 who was the friend of my wing's FB, so i totalled 4 new #'s. pretty good night!
After the club, which ended early because some dude got a bottle broken over his face and another guy accidently shot himself outside the club (fun times), we were wandering aroud.
This group of like 6 HBs in dresses were around. I remembered one HB9 from the club and i had compliment-opened her about her dress. I walked by her as some dude in a crimson crushed velvet pimp suit was taking a picture of them and whispered in her ear "that guy's suit is KILLER" and kept walking with a small half smile and a half-glance back to see her reaction.
She whispered to her short HB9 friend who came running after me and said Wait! Come talk to my friend!
Score. I casually went back, leaned on the wall and gave her the james dean look. She came over to me, we vibed for a sec and i # closed her with high kino. Great stuff.
Tonight i'm going on a day2 with this short HB9 Asian chick who i kclosed at the club on Friday. Look for that report soon.
Peace!
p.s. oh, and i also # closed this other HB8 who was the friend of my wing's FB, so i totalled 4 new #'s. pretty good night!
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Note for the scale:
HB8 = bomb face/avg body OR vice versa
HB8.5 = Bomb face/Voluptuous feature (T or A), avg 'shape', or vice versa
HB9 = bomb face, voluptuous feature, nice body
HB10 = bomb face, voluptuous feature, AND works out/great shape
or maybe
face 1-10
body 1-10
fitness 1-10
then average it? anyway...
So last night i went to 's house, the 5'2" buxom cutie, HB 8.5. I left at 4:15Am and here i thought i had to get up at 7AM for an 8:30AM seminar on campus. As i lay awake in bed half from excitement half from the cough that is the only lingering sympton of this godforsaken cold i caught last week, i remembered it's actually at 10:30 AM; thank god i'll actually get a couple hours of sleep. Still, as i laid i couldn't help recapping the evening in my mind...
I arrived about 15 minutes late at 10:15pm, i come into the house with a pizza, 3 movies, and a bottle of wine. I'm wearing something that would fit right in at a casual bar, she's wearing some 'i'm not going anywhere today' clothes: tank top, zipped hoody, capri jeans. ALL the lights are on in her house, very bright, no mood. She did, however, have several candles lit in different rooms. Clearly she wants it but doesn't want to appear too eager.
sidenote: i just released the most hellish fart in this library and if someone walks past me they're going to get a nice whiff of warm custard asscream.
I didn't give her a huge hug as i walked in which i had halfway wanted to do to establish strong kino. Instead i walk in like i own the house. I put the movies down on the table (i own the living room), put my coat on the other table (i own the dining room), put the pizza in the fridge (and make fun of her small ass freezer where it wouldn't fit) and preheat the oven (i own the kitchen). I didn't think about this stuff at the time but i now realize the effect, which is cool.
Then i go thru the fun and extremely awkward experience of opening a bottle of wine with no bottle opener. She proclaims she's not much of a wine drinker,then she pulls out two glasses and when i finally get it 'open' (note: push the cork INTO the bottle, but cover the top with a towel because that shit will splash up EVERYWHERE), she offhandedly says, 'i'm cool with the wine' and walks into the living room. I went non-reactive and kept with the previous convo thread, ignoring her comment.
As i poured into both of the glasses she then went playful, "are you trying to get me drunk?" Reframe time! "No, this wine isn't for YOU, it's for ME. You're not old enough yet." And i left her glass in the kitchen as i brought my own into the living room to sit down right next to her. Actions speak louder than words - i left that choice up to her.
I put in a movie, She Hate Me, a spike lee joint and one of my favorites. Has an assload of sex scenes, including lesbo ones, and is great for conversation. I'm opening the wine as it's starting, she suggests maybe we switch to Jamie Foxx's standup, i said 'put it in' then later, 'if i've seen this we're gonna watch something else.'
We vibe for a minute, i'd seen it, i see 300 laying there so i say, "ooh! 300! Can we watch that?" (with a tonality that said, 'i want to watch this, what do you think of it?'. Immediately afterwords i wondered what the effect of that question would be on the frame-dynamic because i typically don't ever ask questions like that, i typically have more of a commanding, decisive tonality and format about such things.
But whatever, she said "yeah" in a tonality that said, "yeah i don't mind, sounds good." I wondered if that exchange shook the dominant, decisive frame... who knows?
I figured 300 was good, i genuinely wanted to see it and it also had a lot of manliness and a few good sexual scenes too. We're barely watching it, vibing. I'm kinoing back and forth, keeping a sexual undertone. She asks me a shitload of comfort building questions and i intentionally keep them ridiculously playful: "i'm 12 years old, i'm vietnamese and filipino, i'm an exotic dancer and a male escort, after community college i was backpacking thru europe then i went on a quest for manhood in the wilderness and killed a giant wolf just like in 300. etc."
My intention originally was to try to skip entirely over comfort and keep up high BT and pushpull/kino all night. She went for it the whole time. The goal was for her to never get the idea that i'm a good potential relationship partner/boyfriend. Unfortunately i also unintentionally kept revealing shit about myself when we were vibing. Oh well...
I tell her to show me a shitload of pictures on her laptop and she does. I feel like this created a bonding feeling between me and her attached to all of the events/people she showed me pics of. Great idea. An interesting thing was this: she asked "do you have a myspace?" "You show me yours i'll show you mine" So she pulls her laptop onto the couch, then unplugs it, i said "yeah you can't be tied down by those cords like that" she agreed. Love it! We look at each others' myspaces.
This was a PHENOMENAL idea! I saw her age (24), her sign, the school she went to, and a bunch of othe crucial stuff. We went to my page and she looked at all my info. Great exchange of personal info. Comfort building? Probably. Not deep rapport though. Then the best thing that could've happened happened: she read some of my blogs.
She LOVED them, and it also turned the conversation to social dynamics, relationships, and sex. Awesome.
She came with some good game and honesty about girls and sex, and she appreciated my viewpoints and knowledge. "How do you know all this stuff?" "blahblah" i responded. She said, "i bet it's from experience..." Non-reactive shrug on my part. She said "yeah ive had boyfriends and ive had a one night stand and blahblalbha" then a second later, "forget you heard me say that last statement by the way." Hmm...
I was meanwhile push-pulling on the kino. I'd go from 'im seducing you' kino to 'im just a platonic guy friend' kino to 'im comfortable sitting here touching you' kino. I kissed her cheeks and neck in the seducer frame a few times, then pulled back. Later in the seducer frame i kissed her lips. She kissed back. I also kissed her in the club so it wasn't anything new for us.
Eventually i went to more intense body touching around thighs and around breasts, then i drew lines from her thighs over her pussy up to the middle of her breasts and around. Turned her on for sure. She told me as much, and told me her spots as i toyed with them. Wet pussy all over the place. And now i have to go to this seminar so we'll finish this incredibly detailed report later. Ta-Ta!
Ok back the the story...
So pushpull kino. She complains about me turning her on and every now and then throws token verbal resistance. I go for verbal agreement "Yeah im gonna stop before you get to turned on" and mix in some dominance/acceptance ie "Yup, and it's awesome" or "it's OK, it's OK" type of responses, meanwhile I'm rubbing on her pussy thru the jeans. She also tries breaking state by going logical about other shit. I play along, going logical, quizzing her about her times tables, but i'm still kino'ing up and down her body like i'm strumming a guitar. "Do you remember when we first met?" she asks. Eventually the logical convo turns to these pics she has of that time and somehow i let her jump up and go get them. Woops!
After we look at them she goes, "sorry for killing the mood." I was nonchalant in response except to restart the kino escalation. Eventually we're at the same point, wet pussy, and she's like OMG and runs to the bathroom, i make fun of her that she's gonna wipe herself. I join her in the bathroom, she's preening her hair. We move to the bedroom, i lay on the bed.
More kino, eventually im gliding my fingertips along the inside of the top of her pants. I unbotton them, they're tight as fuck. She says something verbally as she goes for the strongest physical token resistance yet where she actually gently pulled my hand off (rather than just touching my hand like before). I pulled back some, mini freeze-out. I said, "i just wanted to see exactly how wet it was, the results of my work." She's like "ok, go ahead and feel"
I reach down and start massaging her clit. That shit is SOAKING wet. She started to reach to down again, i got up and took her jeans off, said i wanted to see how wet her panties were. More rubbing/touching. I put her hand on my johnson several times, she rubs it. Few minutes later i took her panties off. More foreplay. She's into it. I take my shirt off, more foreplay, then my pants. I had to pushpull (2 steps forward/1back style) several times. I reach into my pants, pull out a condom and put it on.
She stops me with some physical resistance coupled with, 'no sex!' verbal resistance. I go with verbal agreement (next time i'm going to go for dominant). I don't get it in. I pull back and lay, she's like "ok we'll take the condom off that way we know there'll be no sex." I'm laying there thinking 'i have another one in my pocket so whatever. "Ok!" She takes it off. Note that in order to do that her hand had to be on my piece. She started stroking it.
Push time. I get back on top and do more foreplay. Every so often she throws in the 'not having sex tonight' verbal resistance. I agree. At one point i said, "we're not having sex, i'm just teasing the FUCK out of you." I felt a very palpable shift in the balance of power with that line. "I hate you." she said playfully. haha, she didn't like the idea of ME teasing HER, yet she loved it at the same time.
Eventually im rubbing my D on her pussy, and the tip is near the hole. She angles herself and lets it glide in like a quarter of an inch. We play like this for a while. I pull back. Then push and get right back to the same position. I tell her i have another condom, she laughs. No sex!
Then for the next 30 mins or so we play around like that. Eventually i slide it all the way in, do a few strokes, pull out and pull back. Did that like 5 times. I'm laying next to her and she asks me what middle school i went to for logical distraction. I start chronicling the history of my education and the friends i met at each school whom she might know. Meanwhile im sliding it into her and she's moaning while i stroke it. I pull out and pull back
FINALLY, we're laying again, in a from-the-side position. I slide it in and start playing with her clit again. She's loving it. I stroke some, she's about to cum, i stroke like a mofo and she comes. I slow down, speed back up again and shes like 'OMG ur gonna make me cum again!'
I shift to me-on-top and get DEEP in that mufucca, after a couple minutes i pull out and bust all up and down her stomach. On some real shit, it was Peter North style. I used her camera to take a pic of it, it was a gargantuan amount of cum. Nice.
She can't stop smiling, i tease her about this. "That was fun," she said. Yes it was. I left at 4:15. Interesting to note, that was 6 hours. says you need 7 hours to lay, so maybe he's right. We'll see...
Lessons Learned:
-The amount of resistance, ASD style, seemed almost perfectly proportionate to the amount of deeper rapport building i did.
very important
-I think there's a difference between comfort and 'rapport' in a sense. Or rather, all of the historical personal data exchange builds comfort. All of the current and future info builds rapport ie RELATIONSHIP-outcome driven.
Ideal net result is for her to feel like she's known me for long enough that she won't feel slutty for boning a guy she just met, yet not get any ideas about dating me in the future. (regardless of whether or not i want to date her).
-Verbal agreement/physical escalation frame to the 'not having sex tonight' thing might not be good. Dominant 'i KNOW i can fuck you' might be better, or perhas 'Relax, i'll lead you'. We'll see.
-Go get tested before my dick falls off
Peace out!
HB8 = bomb face/avg body OR vice versa
HB8.5 = Bomb face/Voluptuous feature (T or A), avg 'shape', or vice versa
HB9 = bomb face, voluptuous feature, nice body
HB10 = bomb face, voluptuous feature, AND works out/great shape
or maybe
face 1-10
body 1-10
fitness 1-10
then average it? anyway...
So last night i went to 's house, the 5'2" buxom cutie, HB 8.5. I left at 4:15Am and here i thought i had to get up at 7AM for an 8:30AM seminar on campus. As i lay awake in bed half from excitement half from the cough that is the only lingering sympton of this godforsaken cold i caught last week, i remembered it's actually at 10:30 AM; thank god i'll actually get a couple hours of sleep. Still, as i laid i couldn't help recapping the evening in my mind...
I arrived about 15 minutes late at 10:15pm, i come into the house with a pizza, 3 movies, and a bottle of wine. I'm wearing something that would fit right in at a casual bar, she's wearing some 'i'm not going anywhere today' clothes: tank top, zipped hoody, capri jeans. ALL the lights are on in her house, very bright, no mood. She did, however, have several candles lit in different rooms. Clearly she wants it but doesn't want to appear too eager.
sidenote: i just released the most hellish fart in this library and if someone walks past me they're going to get a nice whiff of warm custard asscream.
I didn't give her a huge hug as i walked in which i had halfway wanted to do to establish strong kino. Instead i walk in like i own the house. I put the movies down on the table (i own the living room), put my coat on the other table (i own the dining room), put the pizza in the fridge (and make fun of her small ass freezer where it wouldn't fit) and preheat the oven (i own the kitchen). I didn't think about this stuff at the time but i now realize the effect, which is cool.
Then i go thru the fun and extremely awkward experience of opening a bottle of wine with no bottle opener. She proclaims she's not much of a wine drinker,then she pulls out two glasses and when i finally get it 'open' (note: push the cork INTO the bottle, but cover the top with a towel because that shit will splash up EVERYWHERE), she offhandedly says, 'i'm cool with the wine' and walks into the living room. I went non-reactive and kept with the previous convo thread, ignoring her comment.
As i poured into both of the glasses she then went playful, "are you trying to get me drunk?" Reframe time! "No, this wine isn't for YOU, it's for ME. You're not old enough yet." And i left her glass in the kitchen as i brought my own into the living room to sit down right next to her. Actions speak louder than words - i left that choice up to her.
I put in a movie, She Hate Me, a spike lee joint and one of my favorites. Has an assload of sex scenes, including lesbo ones, and is great for conversation. I'm opening the wine as it's starting, she suggests maybe we switch to Jamie Foxx's standup, i said 'put it in' then later, 'if i've seen this we're gonna watch something else.'
We vibe for a minute, i'd seen it, i see 300 laying there so i say, "ooh! 300! Can we watch that?" (with a tonality that said, 'i want to watch this, what do you think of it?'. Immediately afterwords i wondered what the effect of that question would be on the frame-dynamic because i typically don't ever ask questions like that, i typically have more of a commanding, decisive tonality and format about such things.
But whatever, she said "yeah" in a tonality that said, "yeah i don't mind, sounds good." I wondered if that exchange shook the dominant, decisive frame... who knows?
I figured 300 was good, i genuinely wanted to see it and it also had a lot of manliness and a few good sexual scenes too. We're barely watching it, vibing. I'm kinoing back and forth, keeping a sexual undertone. She asks me a shitload of comfort building questions and i intentionally keep them ridiculously playful: "i'm 12 years old, i'm vietnamese and filipino, i'm an exotic dancer and a male escort, after community college i was backpacking thru europe then i went on a quest for manhood in the wilderness and killed a giant wolf just like in 300. etc."
My intention originally was to try to skip entirely over comfort and keep up high BT and pushpull/kino all night. She went for it the whole time. The goal was for her to never get the idea that i'm a good potential relationship partner/boyfriend. Unfortunately i also unintentionally kept revealing shit about myself when we were vibing. Oh well...
I tell her to show me a shitload of pictures on her laptop and she does. I feel like this created a bonding feeling between me and her attached to all of the events/people she showed me pics of. Great idea. An interesting thing was this: she asked "do you have a myspace?" "You show me yours i'll show you mine" So she pulls her laptop onto the couch, then unplugs it, i said "yeah you can't be tied down by those cords like that" she agreed. Love it! We look at each others' myspaces.
This was a PHENOMENAL idea! I saw her age (24), her sign, the school she went to, and a bunch of othe crucial stuff. We went to my page and she looked at all my info. Great exchange of personal info. Comfort building? Probably. Not deep rapport though. Then the best thing that could've happened happened: she read some of my blogs.
She LOVED them, and it also turned the conversation to social dynamics, relationships, and sex. Awesome.
She came with some good game and honesty about girls and sex, and she appreciated my viewpoints and knowledge. "How do you know all this stuff?" "blahblah" i responded. She said, "i bet it's from experience..." Non-reactive shrug on my part. She said "yeah ive had boyfriends and ive had a one night stand and blahblalbha" then a second later, "forget you heard me say that last statement by the way." Hmm...
I was meanwhile push-pulling on the kino. I'd go from 'im seducing you' kino to 'im just a platonic guy friend' kino to 'im comfortable sitting here touching you' kino. I kissed her cheeks and neck in the seducer frame a few times, then pulled back. Later in the seducer frame i kissed her lips. She kissed back. I also kissed her in the club so it wasn't anything new for us.
Eventually i went to more intense body touching around thighs and around breasts, then i drew lines from her thighs over her pussy up to the middle of her breasts and around. Turned her on for sure. She told me as much, and told me her spots as i toyed with them. Wet pussy all over the place. And now i have to go to this seminar so we'll finish this incredibly detailed report later. Ta-Ta!
Ok back the the story...
So pushpull kino. She complains about me turning her on and every now and then throws token verbal resistance. I go for verbal agreement "Yeah im gonna stop before you get to turned on" and mix in some dominance/acceptance ie "Yup, and it's awesome" or "it's OK, it's OK" type of responses, meanwhile I'm rubbing on her pussy thru the jeans. She also tries breaking state by going logical about other shit. I play along, going logical, quizzing her about her times tables, but i'm still kino'ing up and down her body like i'm strumming a guitar. "Do you remember when we first met?" she asks. Eventually the logical convo turns to these pics she has of that time and somehow i let her jump up and go get them. Woops!
After we look at them she goes, "sorry for killing the mood." I was nonchalant in response except to restart the kino escalation. Eventually we're at the same point, wet pussy, and she's like OMG and runs to the bathroom, i make fun of her that she's gonna wipe herself. I join her in the bathroom, she's preening her hair. We move to the bedroom, i lay on the bed.
More kino, eventually im gliding my fingertips along the inside of the top of her pants. I unbotton them, they're tight as fuck. She says something verbally as she goes for the strongest physical token resistance yet where she actually gently pulled my hand off (rather than just touching my hand like before). I pulled back some, mini freeze-out. I said, "i just wanted to see exactly how wet it was, the results of my work." She's like "ok, go ahead and feel"
I reach down and start massaging her clit. That shit is SOAKING wet. She started to reach to down again, i got up and took her jeans off, said i wanted to see how wet her panties were. More rubbing/touching. I put her hand on my johnson several times, she rubs it. Few minutes later i took her panties off. More foreplay. She's into it. I take my shirt off, more foreplay, then my pants. I had to pushpull (2 steps forward/1back style) several times. I reach into my pants, pull out a condom and put it on.
She stops me with some physical resistance coupled with, 'no sex!' verbal resistance. I go with verbal agreement (next time i'm going to go for dominant). I don't get it in. I pull back and lay, she's like "ok we'll take the condom off that way we know there'll be no sex." I'm laying there thinking 'i have another one in my pocket so whatever. "Ok!" She takes it off. Note that in order to do that her hand had to be on my piece. She started stroking it.
Push time. I get back on top and do more foreplay. Every so often she throws in the 'not having sex tonight' verbal resistance. I agree. At one point i said, "we're not having sex, i'm just teasing the FUCK out of you." I felt a very palpable shift in the balance of power with that line. "I hate you." she said playfully. haha, she didn't like the idea of ME teasing HER, yet she loved it at the same time.
Eventually im rubbing my D on her pussy, and the tip is near the hole. She angles herself and lets it glide in like a quarter of an inch. We play like this for a while. I pull back. Then push and get right back to the same position. I tell her i have another condom, she laughs. No sex!
Then for the next 30 mins or so we play around like that. Eventually i slide it all the way in, do a few strokes, pull out and pull back. Did that like 5 times. I'm laying next to her and she asks me what middle school i went to for logical distraction. I start chronicling the history of my education and the friends i met at each school whom she might know. Meanwhile im sliding it into her and she's moaning while i stroke it. I pull out and pull back
FINALLY, we're laying again, in a from-the-side position. I slide it in and start playing with her clit again. She's loving it. I stroke some, she's about to cum, i stroke like a mofo and she comes. I slow down, speed back up again and shes like 'OMG ur gonna make me cum again!'
I shift to me-on-top and get DEEP in that mufucca, after a couple minutes i pull out and bust all up and down her stomach. On some real shit, it was Peter North style. I used her camera to take a pic of it, it was a gargantuan amount of cum. Nice.
She can't stop smiling, i tease her about this. "That was fun," she said. Yes it was. I left at 4:15. Interesting to note, that was 6 hours. says you need 7 hours to lay, so maybe he's right. We'll see...
Lessons Learned:
-The amount of resistance, ASD style, seemed almost perfectly proportionate to the amount of deeper rapport building i did.
very important
-I think there's a difference between comfort and 'rapport' in a sense. Or rather, all of the historical personal data exchange builds comfort. All of the current and future info builds rapport ie RELATIONSHIP-outcome driven.
Ideal net result is for her to feel like she's known me for long enough that she won't feel slutty for boning a guy she just met, yet not get any ideas about dating me in the future. (regardless of whether or not i want to date her).
-Verbal agreement/physical escalation frame to the 'not having sex tonight' thing might not be good. Dominant 'i KNOW i can fuck you' might be better, or perhas 'Relax, i'll lead you'. We'll see.
-Go get tested before my dick falls off
Peace out!
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So not such a glorious LR, but a brief one because i need to get going to my appointments today.
I was at my FB's house and i hit that shit like a pornstar. Orgasms all over the place.
Anyway, the juicy stuff was AFTERwords. Basically she has 3 roomates, 2 of whom are bisexual and one that's a virgin. WHAT?! I actually already KNEW one of them too, which helps. They all heard me layin the pipe in her room and were all giggly when i came out of the room and met them. I had some good banter and chitchat with them.
Lessons Learned:
Not NEARLY enough kino.
Next time i'm kino'ing all of them like a mofo. I told my FB i'm gonna walk in here one day ass-naked and we're going to have an orgy. She laughed then tried to logically disagree although her BL was receptive. Nice.
til next time... Peace out!
I was at my FB's house and i hit that shit like a pornstar. Orgasms all over the place.
Anyway, the juicy stuff was AFTERwords. Basically she has 3 roomates, 2 of whom are bisexual and one that's a virgin. WHAT?! I actually already KNEW one of them too, which helps. They all heard me layin the pipe in her room and were all giggly when i came out of the room and met them. I had some good banter and chitchat with them.
Lessons Learned:
Not NEARLY enough kino.
Next time i'm kino'ing all of them like a mofo. I told my FB i'm gonna walk in here one day ass-naked and we're going to have an orgy. She laughed then tried to logically disagree although her BL was receptive. Nice.
til next time... Peace out!
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Waiting excitedly for the follow-up on that..!? ;)
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Brad '09 BC Alumni ✘ Alexander 3x BC Assistant ✘ Former RSD Intern ✘ Copenhagen, Denmark ✘ SWAG
Goldenpath Wrote:
That's very intesting to follow your journey Wesley. What about your gameplan and your stickings points ? What are they ?
Thanks dude! If you meant my gameplan while i'm in-field, this is how i've been running nightgame: http://rsdnation.com/showthread.php?t=10211
if you mean my gameplan for development, basically i've kind of mentally split it into a couple of categories:
Day1 game
Day2 game
MLTR management
Within those 3 stages i also want to work on developing different styles of game. ie Jeffy has a style, Ozzie has a style, Manwhore has a style, Shazam has a style, etc. To me these have distinct differences yet they all lead to some outstanding results. Being able to understand how other peoples' game works will only enhance my own.
In short, learning different styles will exponentially increase my ability to micro-calibrate, so i can pull virtually any girl from virtually any situation, like how bruce lee knew hella karate, made up his own, and whooped everyone's ass. "Put the game together" as my natural friend put it.
Sticking Points(Things i'm Working On):
- Gathering numbers then re-opening the set i want to take home that night
- Skipping straight to seduction
- Establishing more ideal MLTRs
as always, any advice or wisdom is MORE than welcome. cheers!
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Good, good shit Wes -
2-4 nights a week and opening everything? That's not a challenge, that's the life bro!
I will be spamming the forum with my FRs, just cuz I could use all the help I can get right now -
Thanks for the solid input on my last one -
I'll be keeping a close eye on yours too - peace
2-4 nights a week and opening everything? That's not a challenge, that's the life bro!
I will be spamming the forum with my FRs, just cuz I could use all the help I can get right now -
Thanks for the solid input on my last one -
I'll be keeping a close eye on yours too - peace
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Thomas Anderson
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Join Date: 03/14/2007 | Posts: 657
My goal here is to become a jedi master. I want to be able to pull virtually any girl from virtually any situation.
What that means for me in my game is pushing the limits, going for the toughest targets, and taking it to the next level with high consistency. Ideally, i would like to be able to master all of the various styles of game i've seen or heard about. I'm not going out every night for 3 months straight, but i'm engaging in social interaction as often as possible, and going out typically between 2 and 4 nights per week.
The goal is ultimate social mastery.
Rather than spam the forum with my progress/field reports, you'll get them here. ALL input and advice are welcome. I'm keeping a personal blog with the freakiest of elements, but i'll post the less character-destroying elements here. Feel free to comment whenever you feel spurred to do so. Thanks!
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