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good luck man, hope all goes well!
peace!
peace!
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hey man.. good luck with your 30 day challenge!! i look forward to seeing your journey. i really want to start my first 30 day challenge but unfortunately my next 30 days are a bit too full on with uni. but after the semester... :D
After reading stuarts post on plowing and escalating I decided to call a few numbers I had. Some warm leads. I'm always nervous about phone calls. For some reason I think I have hearing loss (really i don't).
------ the Calls -------
I called that girl HBNYU I met yesterday up and left a voice message about how I tan too easily - reference to hipster roleplaying yesterday. I'll call her again soon.
I called this HBMommy (she may have a child) I met saturday. She gave me a time constraint and then after two minutes of nervous chit chat - i told my blind date story (she laughed at the wrong parts - nervous laughs). She told me she had to walk her dogs and would call me back. I knew it at the time - i got no call back. It hurt a bit. I'll call her back in a day or two. Probably call her a goofball or dork.
I called HB Nike (she is a designer for shoes). Left a voice message.
I called HBVolunteer - the hottest of all the girls so far. She picked up with a resounding: HEY LOREN! I never realized how good it feels to listen to a girls voice. I called her and told her a short story about my cousin and we did an IQ test. I was nervous as fuck and was going through my stories fast. She could barely even hear them. I told her I was playing frisbee this weekend with a bunch of my buddies and suggested she should tag along. She replied that sounds cool. She didn't really say she would come... hmm I asked "you want to tag along?" "Yeah. Sounds fun." I don't intend to play frisbee with my friends but now she has agreed to see me this saturday. Good. I made a plan now I'll cancel and postpone for later in the day. I was really worried beofre I called. Earlier in the week she sent me a txt message with the following "hey, I can't hang out thursday since i have to pick up my bfrnd at the airport." I thought it was boyfriend but apparently it's bestfriend?
----- the sarge ----
My wing bailed on me last minute. He was sick. I went solo for about an hour. I didn't open a set for 45 minutes (AA kicking in). Then I finally opened a 2 set sitting down next to me. More of her friends come and the leader of the pack invites me to go with them to the next bar. PUALawyer comes and meets us. We all go and meet up another - PUASunshine and another guy (afc? pua?). We couldn't get in with this many guys. So one of the girls tells me "we really want to get in so we are going to go with just us girls." The girl I was gaming said "why don't we go somewhere else." I think I was starting to attract her. The girl who wanted to ditch me went and talked to the bouncer. He denied her and her friends. I smile.
The three other puas and I go to another bar. They have free drinks - awesome. I drink like 3. Unfortunately - I shouldn't drink. Even if they are free. I should restrain myself. I open 2 girls in a 7 set. The other 5 guys in the set were kind of dead weight - no need to involve them. I use tons of C&F. I never tell her my job and I can see attraction building. I try #closing since they were about to leave. No go (bf). But I plowed. So i'm happy.
I end up opening several more sets. Mostly joke sets like 1 guy with 1 girl. Obvious boyfriend girlfriend with me trying to steal the girlfriend. None of the guys really hate me. I totally go in there covert. And I can see the girls attraction switches going - girl whispers to her boyfriend "he's funny." She then starts asking me a bunch of questions like my name etc. I can see the guy getting nervous. But I'm playing it really cool and friendly... so he can't get pissed. One guy even bought me a drink (that was cool of him). I knew deep down inside I wasn't going to take his girl away. Maybe he was one up on me and he knew this as well... clever...
I pretty much ended the night after this around 1am. Unfortunately, I have nothing to show for tonight. I did plow for a number once (unsuccessfully - "i don't think my boyfriend would appreciate it" "what? he doesn't allow you to freely see other people?" "he does. but he wouldn't like me giving my number away.")
----- Thoughts from the night -----
For some reason, when I sarge solo... I have AA. But all I need is one wing. Anyone really - afc to pua. And I become a machine. It's better if they have higher energy as well. The more I'm with the better. I feel like I'm putting on a show. And when this happens I really excel. I like the validation I get from my set and from my fellow PUAs.
It feels like everywhere I go I'm always teaching or pushing - and sometimes if I'm just with one other wing - I lose my energy. Sometimes, I'd like to be pushed and challenged by someone other than myself.
My energy level is key. If I can pump up my own state, I'm golden. I'm trying to anchor it. So far, not really noticing the NLP at work.
------ Things to work on --------
#close consistently - or at least try
A3/Comfort - Prepare more (go back to studying)
escalate - think of the best I can do in that set and then try for that (always with full close in mind).
Lead the conversation - dont let it stale.
------ the Calls -------
I called that girl HBNYU I met yesterday up and left a voice message about how I tan too easily - reference to hipster roleplaying yesterday. I'll call her again soon.
I called this HBMommy (she may have a child) I met saturday. She gave me a time constraint and then after two minutes of nervous chit chat - i told my blind date story (she laughed at the wrong parts - nervous laughs). She told me she had to walk her dogs and would call me back. I knew it at the time - i got no call back. It hurt a bit. I'll call her back in a day or two. Probably call her a goofball or dork.
I called HB Nike (she is a designer for shoes). Left a voice message.
I called HBVolunteer - the hottest of all the girls so far. She picked up with a resounding: HEY LOREN! I never realized how good it feels to listen to a girls voice. I called her and told her a short story about my cousin and we did an IQ test. I was nervous as fuck and was going through my stories fast. She could barely even hear them. I told her I was playing frisbee this weekend with a bunch of my buddies and suggested she should tag along. She replied that sounds cool. She didn't really say she would come... hmm I asked "you want to tag along?" "Yeah. Sounds fun." I don't intend to play frisbee with my friends but now she has agreed to see me this saturday. Good. I made a plan now I'll cancel and postpone for later in the day. I was really worried beofre I called. Earlier in the week she sent me a txt message with the following "hey, I can't hang out thursday since i have to pick up my bfrnd at the airport." I thought it was boyfriend but apparently it's bestfriend?
----- the sarge ----
My wing bailed on me last minute. He was sick. I went solo for about an hour. I didn't open a set for 45 minutes (AA kicking in). Then I finally opened a 2 set sitting down next to me. More of her friends come and the leader of the pack invites me to go with them to the next bar. PUALawyer comes and meets us. We all go and meet up another - PUASunshine and another guy (afc? pua?). We couldn't get in with this many guys. So one of the girls tells me "we really want to get in so we are going to go with just us girls." The girl I was gaming said "why don't we go somewhere else." I think I was starting to attract her. The girl who wanted to ditch me went and talked to the bouncer. He denied her and her friends. I smile.
The three other puas and I go to another bar. They have free drinks - awesome. I drink like 3. Unfortunately - I shouldn't drink. Even if they are free. I should restrain myself. I open 2 girls in a 7 set. The other 5 guys in the set were kind of dead weight - no need to involve them. I use tons of C&F. I never tell her my job and I can see attraction building. I try #closing since they were about to leave. No go (bf). But I plowed. So i'm happy.
I end up opening several more sets. Mostly joke sets like 1 guy with 1 girl. Obvious boyfriend girlfriend with me trying to steal the girlfriend. None of the guys really hate me. I totally go in there covert. And I can see the girls attraction switches going - girl whispers to her boyfriend "he's funny." She then starts asking me a bunch of questions like my name etc. I can see the guy getting nervous. But I'm playing it really cool and friendly... so he can't get pissed. One guy even bought me a drink (that was cool of him). I knew deep down inside I wasn't going to take his girl away. Maybe he was one up on me and he knew this as well... clever...
I pretty much ended the night after this around 1am. Unfortunately, I have nothing to show for tonight. I did plow for a number once (unsuccessfully - "i don't think my boyfriend would appreciate it" "what? he doesn't allow you to freely see other people?" "he does. but he wouldn't like me giving my number away.")
----- Thoughts from the night -----
For some reason, when I sarge solo... I have AA. But all I need is one wing. Anyone really - afc to pua. And I become a machine. It's better if they have higher energy as well. The more I'm with the better. I feel like I'm putting on a show. And when this happens I really excel. I like the validation I get from my set and from my fellow PUAs.
It feels like everywhere I go I'm always teaching or pushing - and sometimes if I'm just with one other wing - I lose my energy. Sometimes, I'd like to be pushed and challenged by someone other than myself.
My energy level is key. If I can pump up my own state, I'm golden. I'm trying to anchor it. So far, not really noticing the NLP at work.
------ Things to work on --------
#close consistently - or at least try
A3/Comfort - Prepare more (go back to studying)
escalate - think of the best I can do in that set and then try for that (always with full close in mind).
Lead the conversation - dont let it stale.
Hey Loren
Congrats on finally joining the big boys -
You're gonna like it a lot more over here -
c u in NYC
Congrats on finally joining the big boys -
You're gonna like it a lot more over here -
c u in NYC
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Nice...... Wicked.
Tyler
Tyler
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Good job! Full-on action combined with analyzing after is gonna get you FAR! 
I started the night feeling pretty shitty overall. But it gets good. I feel so good I feel high right now.
I made plans with a girl HBVolunteer and she totally didn't respond to my text that I sent her. I texted two other girls telling them that i just met their twin. Both responded asking about this girl. I don't know exactly how to respond. Maybe a bit C&F. I'd like to get them on the phone. I also sent a joke to another girl but she didn't respond. This is the girl that said she'd call me back and never did. Whatever.
My buddy called me up and we I met up with about 9 guys. We went out sarging around 11:00 or so. We couldn't get into any of the clubs so we kind of did a bit of street sarging. Two girls offered me their numbers. I never even asked. One girl I was sarging and I put bunny ears on her. I then took them away and went back into another set. She came over to me and asked me to send her the picture we took and I should take her number. She was closing me. The other girl we sarged on the street was with a guy. I believe she might have been his girlfriend. But maybe not. I sarged and she asked to exchange numbers.
I ended up sarging a bunch of 9s from kansas. Absolutely gorgeous girls I would never had the balls to sarge before. I introduced 3 wings into the set. They ended up all stealing my seats. PUASunshine did a good maneuver where he moved the girls aside so he could sit and take a picture of one of the girls with her boyfriend. I'll have to use this in the future. He ended up closing one of the kansas 9s. I had tons of social proof for introducing the set to people and opening the set. Plus I had on fucking bunny ears. Next time take care of myself before my wings.
I ended up opening a couple sets. I got a bunch of free booze again. i'm getting really good at getting free drinks lately. This girl got me a couple dirty martiniz and a large group of maybe 8 guys and 3 girls poured me a billion drinks. These are $20+ a drink. Craziness. Many of the guys totally tried to amog me but I plowed. ANd I kind of igored this dude and made fun of him a bit. He began to qualify himself at the end. This is where I finally gave him some credit and respect. I won over the group. No one to close here though.
I then open up this three set. With my own patented move. I imitate the bored or frustrated girl in the set. It's great. I end up talking to them and find out one is the aunt, the other the niece, and the last girl is their freaking nun. I find this out when I run a bit of a risky maneuver - calling the niece a stripper and offering her money. I end up gaming the girl and getting her number. Aunt and nun approve. Aunt actually gives me a pen.
I try to open this solid 9. She's with her boyfriend and some other guys. I give her the middle finger. She makes this disgusted look. And does nothing. I quickly put it down and go sit with a set. I don't want to start a fight.
Although, I do open a 2 set where the guy is making out with the girl. I try to see if he'll let me make out with the girl. I get a great chuckle from them both. It's fucking golden.
I ended up sarging on the subway. It's great. Makes the time go fast. I do a lot of direct game. I look at girls and tell them they are hitting on me. i lick ym fingers and fix my eyebrows. I use my two fingers and point at their eyes and point them at mine. I get the whole subway roaring with laughter. This gay guy starts hitting on me. I own that train.
I go to the next cart. Meet a gorgeous girl sitting by herself. I open with an opinion opener. and then just run natural cocky funny game. I use fewer routines lately. Which has it's pluses and minuses. It's great cause i can be soical to anyone - however, I wish i knew more attraction routines to own sets that are difficult. Magic would be nice.
---- the analysis ----
I blasted open with sets. Wearing bunny ears out is an amazing peacock. girls opened me.
I need to plow into sets and think of myself first at times. Especially in that kansas set. These were the most gorgeous girls all night. I could have gotten into any bar with them. i won over the boyfriend and all obstacles. One of the girls came up to me and asked me a question. I should have been entertaining to her. I basically had nothing and she went over to the next interesting thing. My wing actually closed the girl I liked. But that's fine I really didn't get to game her.
I notice a lot of puas try to outgame me. They'll stand and keep throwing shit out while I'm talking. They'll try to interrupt and get their word in. Before I used to shut up and let them speak. now I just continue and ignore what they are saying. girls don't even look away from me now. A fucking fire could be burning the place down but if I'm talking all eyes are on me.
I didn't really run solid game on any of the sets I closed tonight. I basically just ran mostly early attraction. I should have gotten into comfort and qualification a bit more.
Every night I go out I need to try new stuff. Today I used a couple new c&f lines and i tried attack kitten - it didn't go over so well - i'll keep trying. maybe I should write some new stories or something.
Don't stale. Try shit. If they don't hook at least you try. (I was worried on the kansas 9s that I'd say something stupid). Hopefully, me and sunshine meet up with them later today.
Keep up the energy and keep up the kino. Go for kcloses.
Accomplishment for the night:
4 #closes
I made plans with a girl HBVolunteer and she totally didn't respond to my text that I sent her. I texted two other girls telling them that i just met their twin. Both responded asking about this girl. I don't know exactly how to respond. Maybe a bit C&F. I'd like to get them on the phone. I also sent a joke to another girl but she didn't respond. This is the girl that said she'd call me back and never did. Whatever.
My buddy called me up and we I met up with about 9 guys. We went out sarging around 11:00 or so. We couldn't get into any of the clubs so we kind of did a bit of street sarging. Two girls offered me their numbers. I never even asked. One girl I was sarging and I put bunny ears on her. I then took them away and went back into another set. She came over to me and asked me to send her the picture we took and I should take her number. She was closing me. The other girl we sarged on the street was with a guy. I believe she might have been his girlfriend. But maybe not. I sarged and she asked to exchange numbers.
I ended up sarging a bunch of 9s from kansas. Absolutely gorgeous girls I would never had the balls to sarge before. I introduced 3 wings into the set. They ended up all stealing my seats. PUASunshine did a good maneuver where he moved the girls aside so he could sit and take a picture of one of the girls with her boyfriend. I'll have to use this in the future. He ended up closing one of the kansas 9s. I had tons of social proof for introducing the set to people and opening the set. Plus I had on fucking bunny ears. Next time take care of myself before my wings.
I ended up opening a couple sets. I got a bunch of free booze again. i'm getting really good at getting free drinks lately. This girl got me a couple dirty martiniz and a large group of maybe 8 guys and 3 girls poured me a billion drinks. These are $20+ a drink. Craziness. Many of the guys totally tried to amog me but I plowed. ANd I kind of igored this dude and made fun of him a bit. He began to qualify himself at the end. This is where I finally gave him some credit and respect. I won over the group. No one to close here though.
I then open up this three set. With my own patented move. I imitate the bored or frustrated girl in the set. It's great. I end up talking to them and find out one is the aunt, the other the niece, and the last girl is their freaking nun. I find this out when I run a bit of a risky maneuver - calling the niece a stripper and offering her money. I end up gaming the girl and getting her number. Aunt and nun approve. Aunt actually gives me a pen.
I try to open this solid 9. She's with her boyfriend and some other guys. I give her the middle finger. She makes this disgusted look. And does nothing. I quickly put it down and go sit with a set. I don't want to start a fight.
Although, I do open a 2 set where the guy is making out with the girl. I try to see if he'll let me make out with the girl. I get a great chuckle from them both. It's fucking golden.
I ended up sarging on the subway. It's great. Makes the time go fast. I do a lot of direct game. I look at girls and tell them they are hitting on me. i lick ym fingers and fix my eyebrows. I use my two fingers and point at their eyes and point them at mine. I get the whole subway roaring with laughter. This gay guy starts hitting on me. I own that train.
I go to the next cart. Meet a gorgeous girl sitting by herself. I open with an opinion opener. and then just run natural cocky funny game. I use fewer routines lately. Which has it's pluses and minuses. It's great cause i can be soical to anyone - however, I wish i knew more attraction routines to own sets that are difficult. Magic would be nice.
---- the analysis ----
I blasted open with sets. Wearing bunny ears out is an amazing peacock. girls opened me.
I need to plow into sets and think of myself first at times. Especially in that kansas set. These were the most gorgeous girls all night. I could have gotten into any bar with them. i won over the boyfriend and all obstacles. One of the girls came up to me and asked me a question. I should have been entertaining to her. I basically had nothing and she went over to the next interesting thing. My wing actually closed the girl I liked. But that's fine I really didn't get to game her.
I notice a lot of puas try to outgame me. They'll stand and keep throwing shit out while I'm talking. They'll try to interrupt and get their word in. Before I used to shut up and let them speak. now I just continue and ignore what they are saying. girls don't even look away from me now. A fucking fire could be burning the place down but if I'm talking all eyes are on me.
I didn't really run solid game on any of the sets I closed tonight. I basically just ran mostly early attraction. I should have gotten into comfort and qualification a bit more.
Every night I go out I need to try new stuff. Today I used a couple new c&f lines and i tried attack kitten - it didn't go over so well - i'll keep trying. maybe I should write some new stories or something.
Don't stale. Try shit. If they don't hook at least you try. (I was worried on the kansas 9s that I'd say something stupid). Hopefully, me and sunshine meet up with them later today.
Keep up the energy and keep up the kino. Go for kcloses.
Accomplishment for the night:
4 #closes
Although this is Day 4 technically it's really Day 5. And sleep is starting to creep itself into the equation.
I didn't open many sets yesterday. However, I did try to kclose but kind of jokingly which my wing told me not to do. I was like "hey, so do you want to make out now?" great reaction but obviously too much.
I did end up getting blown out once which rarely happens. This girl was like "don't talk to me." It was difficult to get in. My wing was in there with two girls and he didn't bring me in. So basically I just have to throw myself in there. And it was tough. I called her shy and she got offended (probably not really). I'm not sure what I should have done... actually I do... plow. Fuck it.
My highlight set was this two set. An HB 7.5 and her friend HB 5. I end up sitting down with them and run some game. Unfortunately, it was too much rapport shit. I built some attraction but the problem today is that I didn't do anything to create tension. I didn't tell them my job which is slightly. But when I said that we'd never be a couple she's too nice. Her interest spiked. I have to do more C&F. I tried doing more sexual kino today instead of playful. It was something new. Not sure if it's my style yet but it's outside of that comfort zone.
I learned something from my wing. He grabs the girl and just pulls her in towards him. and has her leaning on him. Then he gives her a massage. She was totally into it. It was great.
What I learned:
Create sexual tension. Create push/pull. Important.
I didn't open many sets yesterday. However, I did try to kclose but kind of jokingly which my wing told me not to do. I was like "hey, so do you want to make out now?" great reaction but obviously too much.
I did end up getting blown out once which rarely happens. This girl was like "don't talk to me." It was difficult to get in. My wing was in there with two girls and he didn't bring me in. So basically I just have to throw myself in there. And it was tough. I called her shy and she got offended (probably not really). I'm not sure what I should have done... actually I do... plow. Fuck it.
My highlight set was this two set. An HB 7.5 and her friend HB 5. I end up sitting down with them and run some game. Unfortunately, it was too much rapport shit. I built some attraction but the problem today is that I didn't do anything to create tension. I didn't tell them my job which is slightly. But when I said that we'd never be a couple she's too nice. Her interest spiked. I have to do more C&F. I tried doing more sexual kino today instead of playful. It was something new. Not sure if it's my style yet but it's outside of that comfort zone.
I learned something from my wing. He grabs the girl and just pulls her in towards him. and has her leaning on him. Then he gives her a massage. She was totally into it. It was great.
What I learned:
Create sexual tension. Create push/pull. Important.
I never opened a set near my house before. I opened 3 sets on the street. 2 were moving and 1 sitting down. I had hooked a walking 2 set of girls. Probably 18 or 19 years old. I just didn't plow. Which I should have...
At least I went out and opened. That's what matters. Now I just need to plow.
I need to spend some time reading and using more material. I'm still lacking in that.
Good thing today is that I opened sets near my house for the first time and I went out solo sarging. I guess I don't need my buddies around.
I feel motivated that I can finish this 30 day challenge.
At least I went out and opened. That's what matters. Now I just need to plow.
I need to spend some time reading and using more material. I'm still lacking in that.
Good thing today is that I opened sets near my house for the first time and I went out solo sarging. I guess I don't need my buddies around.
I feel motivated that I can finish this 30 day challenge.
There is more to this than women.
As and have put it and many before them. I need to bring my life into balance: Health, Wealth, and Relationships.
I woke up today at 3:30 pm. Wasting my whole day. I need to get this straightened out as well in these next 30 days.
After reading Ozzie's post about fingering some girl in the plane I realized I needed to disqualify more and put up more of a challenge. He realized that in the back in the restroom he pushed when he should have pulled. He should have set it up so that she is chasing him.
My first few sets weren't glowing. I opened and gamed them a bit. A 6 set (1 guy 5 girls) - I couldn't get everyone involved. They were in the corner. So I had to walk in Direct with an indirect opener - not good. Another set I creeped them out. My buddy opened them earlier. So I came in later with "why do girls need to keep their mouth open while putting on eyeliner." They immediately saw their guy friend coming and they grabbed and hugged him. Ouch - it hurts.
My wing came in and starting gaming my target. I told him afterwards. Whoever I'm hardcore kinoing is my target. I wasn't pissed off. I could have gamed the other girl if I knew he wanted the target. I would have been happy with either.
Another set she hit me and I acted like i was hurt. I should have continued here. I didn't know how to escalate or work attraction material. She showed me her arm where some guy bumped into her. I then tried gaming her friend - the hottest girl in the place (HBGorgeous). I negged her and left it at that.
In the bathroom some dude starts hitting on me. Like hardcore. Later he comes over and starts leaning into me and gives me his card.
I go back to the HGITP and start telling her this weird thing. She says that's her friend and it kind of died. I think telling stories without some attraction is the wrong thing to do. She doesn't care to hear it.
Later in the evening, I open up a 3 set with "you guys work here." 2 guys and 1 girl. Girl chirps in "I do." I should have noticed that was a sign. I go on about how it's monday and people should be at work the next day. I tell them the story about the guy hitting on me in the bathroom stall. They like it. The girl chirps in again... "so what's your name." I introduce and this is where i should have started talking to her a bit more. Or get her involved more. I started talking to both guys again. My wing comes by - thank god. He can take care of these amogs so I can go after my target. Nope he goes straight for her. He does a ton of rapport seeking. I know he doesn't have her interest at all. She is thinking of that other guy in the 3 set. But she was starting to feel some attraction towards me. I could tell.
He ends up stealing my target and going for the #close. She won't pick up - most likely. Too LBJF stuff on his part. I even corrected him. I told him he stole my set again. He says he didn't even notice me there. The other wing was like so what happened. "I saw you amoging these two guys and then your wing came in and you guys switched... he got the girl and you were still talking to the guys. What happened there?" I didn't even really answer. I just told them I had to go home.
I think my wing feels bad he wrote a text: "Owe u a set next time we go out."
What's that suppose to mean?
Lesson Learned:
Have wing rules established. Important.
Act a bit selfish at times.
Things to work in the future: Disqualify, Push/Pull.
It's okay to sarge solo.
Work on other areas of my life as well.
As and have put it and many before them. I need to bring my life into balance: Health, Wealth, and Relationships.
I woke up today at 3:30 pm. Wasting my whole day. I need to get this straightened out as well in these next 30 days.
After reading Ozzie's post about fingering some girl in the plane I realized I needed to disqualify more and put up more of a challenge. He realized that in the back in the restroom he pushed when he should have pulled. He should have set it up so that she is chasing him.
My first few sets weren't glowing. I opened and gamed them a bit. A 6 set (1 guy 5 girls) - I couldn't get everyone involved. They were in the corner. So I had to walk in Direct with an indirect opener - not good. Another set I creeped them out. My buddy opened them earlier. So I came in later with "why do girls need to keep their mouth open while putting on eyeliner." They immediately saw their guy friend coming and they grabbed and hugged him. Ouch - it hurts.
My wing came in and starting gaming my target. I told him afterwards. Whoever I'm hardcore kinoing is my target. I wasn't pissed off. I could have gamed the other girl if I knew he wanted the target. I would have been happy with either.
Another set she hit me and I acted like i was hurt. I should have continued here. I didn't know how to escalate or work attraction material. She showed me her arm where some guy bumped into her. I then tried gaming her friend - the hottest girl in the place (HBGorgeous). I negged her and left it at that.
In the bathroom some dude starts hitting on me. Like hardcore. Later he comes over and starts leaning into me and gives me his card.
I go back to the HGITP and start telling her this weird thing. She says that's her friend and it kind of died. I think telling stories without some attraction is the wrong thing to do. She doesn't care to hear it.
Later in the evening, I open up a 3 set with "you guys work here." 2 guys and 1 girl. Girl chirps in "I do." I should have noticed that was a sign. I go on about how it's monday and people should be at work the next day. I tell them the story about the guy hitting on me in the bathroom stall. They like it. The girl chirps in again... "so what's your name." I introduce and this is where i should have started talking to her a bit more. Or get her involved more. I started talking to both guys again. My wing comes by - thank god. He can take care of these amogs so I can go after my target. Nope he goes straight for her. He does a ton of rapport seeking. I know he doesn't have her interest at all. She is thinking of that other guy in the 3 set. But she was starting to feel some attraction towards me. I could tell.
He ends up stealing my target and going for the #close. She won't pick up - most likely. Too LBJF stuff on his part. I even corrected him. I told him he stole my set again. He says he didn't even notice me there. The other wing was like so what happened. "I saw you amoging these two guys and then your wing came in and you guys switched... he got the girl and you were still talking to the guys. What happened there?" I didn't even really answer. I just told them I had to go home.
I think my wing feels bad he wrote a text: "Owe u a set next time we go out."
What's that suppose to mean?
Lesson Learned:
Have wing rules established. Important.
Act a bit selfish at times.
Things to work in the future: Disqualify, Push/Pull.
It's okay to sarge solo.
Work on other areas of my life as well.
Loren
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Join Date: 04/12/2007 | Posts: 1131
It begins
Day 1:
Sarged with a new guy DallasRussian. We hit up NYUFrat Bar. While we were wating for Lion I opened up a set. I open the set fine but then her friend came into the set and kept trying to test me. "What?" "Yea?" "Really?" I quickly get her caught up and continue with opener. I have them slightly interested. New girl begins talking to her friend and they both ignore me. Original target has her back against mine. I plowed here with a story about blind dates. I then relost the set again as they talk to each other. I should have kept plowing too. Solid 8.
As I was leaving set, Lion came and introduced me to the next set. My phone rings and I give it to my new target. She talks to him for about a minute. I tell her to ask who it is and give him directions (he lives in boston so it doesn't matter). We talk - I do a lot of push/pull on her. She likes the yankees. I hate the yankees. She's from new jersey... and you know what they say about New Jersey girls... She's indian and cute. She has a great tight body. Now I qualified a bit and there was a bit of tension. Great. I just couldn't transfer into comfort very well with her. We both liked snowboarding - (now I know where she gets her figure). I should have built a better connection and qualified. My friends wanted to eat and leave so I just left and said goodbye. Lion later said her friend came up to him and said her friend liked me. I should have #closed. At the time I felt it was tough because we had that hate/love relationship. Soo much tension and I felt it wasn't right. I still should have closed.
We walked around a lot looking for a place to eat. We ended up at some restaurant for an hour or so. Lion ate and we just sat around talking. Not too much sarging. I should have personally left the group and sarged something nearby. No reason to wait. I sarged 2 sets with low energy. Neither of them hooked really well.
As we were leaving I sarged one group that were sitting down. I could have kept going. I could have sat down and worked my magic. Plow Loren. Plow. You need to qualify and comfort it. Push.
We ended up going to a NYU Grad Bar party. A lot of beautiful sets. Very friendly and I should have opened groups up - who cares? Just do it. I ended up opening this one girl sitting next to this guy. I thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend. I wasn't even trying to game her. I was just trying to be social. It ends up she totally ignores him and engages me. We end up talking for maybe an hour or 1.5. We never exchanged names until the end. Also great body and cute face. Blond hair blue eyes. She's been a dancer since she was 4. I gave her my bird story. I cubed her. She says she liked personality tests. She gave me a 6.5/10 on it though (i need better on my cold reads). I did a little game where I told her to hit on me as a guy. I love roleplaying. I made up one yesterday about dressing up as hipsters last night.
We ended up walking around a long time. I opened one more set at Pianos. It didn't hook. I used 2 part kiss opener. Not enough energy maybe - i could have used a slight neg or at least try better energy.
Then we walked around for about another hour looking for a place to go and then hitting the subway. I should taken more of the lead role. Go to places I think would be popping. Do what I have to do. I spent too much time slacking.
Day 1 complete.
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