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Distant Light

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"I view myself as already dead, and for that reason, death is not to be avoided LIFE IS TO BE ACHIEVED."

That last blog hit so many questions that I've been searching for since I became a very philosophical person which was before I even found the community. I always had a similar view but the wording and the whole mindset I had always left that few unanswered questions.

This is also why people would think I'm crazy because of how I am. They can't believe I don't strive for the things they strive for. (Money, items, career, etc) They can't grasp how I could be homeless and still have the time of my life.

Constantly I have people trying to pressure me saying "You need money and a good job or else you won't ever make it in life."

But that's Bullshit because my life is only to have fun. My whole life since I was 12 was to just have fun and experience everything I want before I die. Money doesn't matter, a house doesn't matter, a car doesn't matter. Now I usually tell people I'd rather just be homeless with a canoe and walk around this whole world until I'm dead. What an experience I would have actually trying to use a canoe to cross heavy water channels. Ending up in hostile areas and passing through poverty, different types of people, climates, cultures and everything. My life would be perfect, because I'm have FUN and actually doing what I want to do.

Family members can't process why I'd pass going to college and instead go to the army. I know for a fact if I didn't go to the army and have that experience I'd be pissed. I can't even process when people ask me "Why would you want to go to the army." but they won't understand because the whole way that my mind is, they can't process why I'd actually go. The only thing they think of the army is "Death".

Lately I've been reading Tyler's stuff and just trying to picture where he is at mind wise. An many of his views were spot on and what I used to think about when I was younger. That quote above was like a big question that I had unanswered when I was smaller.

That quote just hit home. That whole post alone hit home. I used to always doubt my whole reality and views when I was at all time lows. (I've posted on here at times when I was at my lowest) An each time I had that feeling of just giving up my whole views and falling into how society says to live and what success is as far as society is considered. But this post really caused my reality to become solid
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Focus

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I like Tyler he's a cool guy, but I think he's taking everything this "ditch the society's standards" stuff a bit too far.

It's not really about stuff per se, it's about freedom and comfort that stuff adds to life.

He says he traveled to many different places and learned a lot of things - so have I and I gotta tell you - USA is where I want to be. I like the competitive spirit of the market that drives progress, gives actual value to people and provides a better life for everyone.

The fact is that it's not about stuff - it's about a person who has the stuff. Some rich people are unhappy. Some are happy. Some poor people are unhappy, some are happy.

IMO pursuit of "something greater" is hard to accomplish when you're worrying about paying your bills on time. Pursuit of something greater has to be done in line with being able to be healthy, financially and mentally free.

Happiness is a balance of ego and core self, any extremities to either side will rarely result in a "full life experience", at least in my opinion. Mostly ego person will never be satisfied, mostly core self person will never be able to exist in the world with other people, because his reality will be too far off from a "common consciousness" of healthy ego drives of most people.
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Tyler

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Thanks bro.

As for needing money, the problem is living in constant reaction to your bills.

I was over my head in debt when I said "Fuck it" and went travelling. This lead to the opportunities that generated my existing line of work.

If I'd done what every single other person would have, I would still be paying those same debts years and years later.

The point is that "if you keep doing what you've always done you'll keep getting the results you've always gotten."

People are dissatisfied with their lives, and yet keep going along the same path that doesn't challenge them or make them happy.

Also, as for realizing that the USA is the best place to live -- that was EXACTLY what I realized from travelling.

You see most people in the USA are frustrated with their lives, and yet until you travel you don't realize what a soap-opera it is that they're generating for themselves.

That said, I always tell this to people -- many of those who've travelled to the exact same places, and all they'll have taken from it is "It was such a long flight...."

I go into it knowing what I'm looking for, so the change in environment is mandatory in order to stimulate my mind to find my next idea. Without that, I'd be the same generic dude with the same ideas.

So you have to know what you're looking for, or at very least, have the drive to find an epiphany of some kind.


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I read Tyler's blog and all I have to say is: LOL. Thanks for writing a biography about my life... goodbye investment banking... goodbye search and rescue diving... goodbye 3 countries... goodbye MTV & Jerry Bruckheimer... I'm working with RSD and UCLA now... solely passionately and intrinsically motivated... Sometimes I miss the money, but I had to figure out the hard way that the way I was doing it wasn't worth it. Internally it was like slowly dying when I wasn't doing what I knew I needed to do. You have to follow your path.

I look back now at all my many life experiences, hard and good, as awesome social and cultural experiences that I LEARNED from. Trust me, some lessons really hurt. But, they all gave me depth and wisdom beyond belief. I feel I can relate to anybody on almost any level because I've been there in one way or another. From hanging and fighting in the streets of Baltimore, to corn husking in the fields of Iowa, to picking my neighbor’s grape harvest in Italy, to riding camels in the sands of Oman, to red carpet events and the social elite of Hollywood. They’ve all expanded my reality to the point where nothing surprises or intimidates me. I’ve made all this my reality.

Here’s just a few other crazy things that’s possible in reality: I’m also a decorated war veteran, been recognized on national TV, was adopted Chinese (I’m white), dated Playboy, Hawaiian Tropic, and Budweiser models, have been kidnapped, worked for the US Embassy in Central America actively fighting Colombian drug traffickers, modeled, was a top ranked wrestler, helped write porn scripts for a friend in Budapest, started businesses, saved a man's life, am an expert pistol shot, cliff dove in 2 countries, managed over $300 million dollars, played stickball in brooklyn, hang glided over Brazilian rain forest, written my own TV show, graduated from a #1 ranked program in the world, hiked mountains, dealt drugs (long time ago), ATTACKED BY A GANG OF WILD MONKEYS, lived on a boat for 3 years, partied for Carnival in Rio, Venice, and New Orleans, been arrested and put in jail (a couple times), been to close to 30 countries (lived in 4), am fluent in renaissance art, broken too many bones to remember, speak parts of 5 languages, was actually kicked out of a country once and made to fly home (not my fault), was almost a father and engaged, ran a black market, had sex in 2000 year old plazas where saints were once burned on a stake, thoroughly well read in classical and contemporary literature, met, partied and am friends with famous Spanish bullfighters, been questioned by the CIA, taught at a renowned university, stowed away on a train once out of desperation, camped in complete wilderness, traveled to East Germany while under Soviet Union’s control (it was as crazy and depressing as the movies portray it), ran with the bulls in Pamplona, been part of a pit crew in the mexican Baja 500 twice, been courted by the Russian Mafia (long story), won ski races in the Alps, promoted parties, and also kicked the tree of life. I just turned 30 and have been completely independent since I was 18. Funny thing is, is that I need my friends to really remember some of the crazy shit that’s gone on.

I guess the only thing left is to own a monkey, be in a heist, and get shot. Seriously, these are my goals for the next 5-20 years... climb a mountain, write a couple books, start a philanthropic organization, motorcycle around S. America, go on safari, visit the north pole (before it's gone), buy a home in Europe and in the great state of Texas, get married and have kids, and finally put an end to the and hunt down the Loch Ness monster. Anything’s possible when you’re living your own legend. What's yours?

BTW, file this under an experience I wouldn't trade ANYTHING for-- college. I don't think it's necessary for everyone to go, but for people who don't know who they are or what they're doing--then GO. What did Tyler just say about experiencing new cultures in his blog... that's what college is. That's why it was so awesome. But, to make all the memorized-learning tests bearable, make sure you study things that piques your intellectual curiosity!
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Nathan Wrote:
I read Tyler's blog and all I have to say is: LOL. Thanks for writing a biography about my life... goodbye investment banking... goodbye search and rescue diving... goodbye 3 countries... goodbye MTV & Jerry Bruckheimer... I'm working with RSD and UCLA now... solely passionately and intrinsically motivated... Sometimes I miss the money, but I had to figure out the hard way that the way I was doing it wasn't worth it. Internally it was like slowly dying when I wasn't doing what I knew I needed to do. You have to follow your path.

I look back now at all my many life experiences, hard and good, as awesome social and cultural experiences that I LEARNED from. Trust me, some lessons really hurt. But, they all gave me depth and wisdom beyond belief. I feel I can relate to anybody on almost any level because I've been there in one way or another. From hanging and fighting in the streets of Baltimore, to corn husking in the fields of Iowa, to picking my neighbor’s grape harvest in Italy, to riding camels in the sands of Oman, to red carpet events and the social elite of Hollywood. They’ve all expanded my reality to the point where nothing surprises or intimidates me. I’ve made all this my reality.

Here’s just a few other crazy things that’s possible in reality: I’m also a decorated war veteran, been recognized on national TV, was adopted Chinese (I’m white), dated Playboy, Hawaiian Tropic, and Budweiser models, have been kidnapped, worked for the US Embassy in Central America actively fighting Colombian drug traffickers, modeled, was a top ranked wrestler, helped write porn scripts for a friend in Budapest, started businesses, saved a man's life, am an expert pistol shot, cliff dove in 2 countries, managed over $300 million dollars, played stickball in brooklyn, hang glided over Brazilian rain forest, written my own TV show, graduated from a #1 ranked program in the world, hiked mountains, dealt drugs (long time ago), ATTACKED BY A GANG OF WILD MONKEYS, lived on a boat for 3 years, partied for Carnival in Rio, Venice, and New Orleans, been arrested and put in jail (a couple times), been to close to 30 countries (lived in 4), am fluent in renaissance art, broken too many bones to remember, speak parts of 5 languages, was actually kicked out of a country once and made to fly home (not my fault), was almost a father and engaged, ran a black market, had sex in 2000 year old plazas where saints were once burned on a stake, thoroughly well read in classical and contemporary literature, met, partied and am friends with famous Spanish bullfighters, been questioned by the CIA, taught at a renowned university, stowed away on a train once out of desperation, camped in complete wilderness, traveled to East Germany while under Soviet Union’s control (it was as crazy and depressing as the movies portray it), ran with the bulls in Pamplona, been part of a pit crew in the mexican Baja 500 twice, been courted by the Russian Mafia (long story), won ski races in the Alps, promoted parties, and also kicked the tree of life. I just turned 30 and have been completely independent since I was 18. Funny thing is, is that I need my friends to really remember some of the crazy shit that’s gone on.

Damn!! your life sounds like a grand ole time. any tips for those of us still just 20 who are looking for such a cool 20s?

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I guess the only thing left is to own a monkey, be in a heist,

Admit it, you took that from Dane Cook

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and get shot. Seriously, these are my goals for the next 5-20 years... climb a mountain,

I did htat. almost 20k ft. almost died on the way down. long story. recommended, but know your shit

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write a couple books, start a philanthropic organization, motorcycle around S. America, go on safari, visit the north pole (before it's gone), buy a home in Europe and in the great state of Texas

Texas??

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, get married and have kids, and finally put an end to the and hunt down the Loch Ness monster.

If it has legs, can I get a drumstick of that shit? otherwise just a nice Lock Ness steak would do

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BTW, file this under an experience I wouldn't trade ANYTHING for-- college. I don't think it's necessary for everyone to go, but for people who don't know who they are or what they're doing--then GO. What did Tyler just say about experiencing new cultures in his blog... that's what college is. That's why it was so awesome. But, to make all the memorized-learning tests bearable, make sure you study things that piques your intellectual curiosity!

College is the ultimate growing experience. I graduate in less than two months now (SHIT!!!) and I can only think "woah..that was...something".
But I'm going to grad school so I guess I'll have more of that
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Nathan Wrote:
I read Tyler's blog and all I have to say is: LOL. Thanks for writing a biography about my life... goodbye investment banking... goodbye search and rescue diving... goodbye 3 countries... goodbye MTV & Jerry Bruckheimer... I'm working with RSD and UCLA now... solely passionately and intrinsically motivated... Sometimes I miss the money, but I had to figure out the hard way that the way I was doing it wasn't worth it. Internally it was like slowly dying when I wasn't doing what I knew I needed to do. You have to follow your path.

I look back now at all my many life experiences, hard and good, as awesome social and cultural experiences that I LEARNED from. Trust me, some lessons really hurt. But, they all gave me depth and wisdom beyond belief. I feel I can relate to anybody on almost any level because I've been there in one way or another. From hanging and fighting in the streets of Baltimore, to corn husking in the fields of Iowa, to picking my neighbor’s grape harvest in Italy, to riding camels in the sands of Oman, to red carpet events and the social elite of Hollywood. They’ve all expanded my reality to the point where nothing surprises or intimidates me. I’ve made all this my reality.

Here’s just a few other crazy things that’s possible in reality: I’m also a decorated war veteran, been recognized on national TV, was adopted Chinese (I’m white), dated Playboy, Hawaiian Tropic, and Budweiser models, have been kidnapped, worked for the US Embassy in Central America actively fighting Colombian drug traffickers, modeled, was a top ranked wrestler, helped write porn scripts for a friend in Budapest, started businesses, saved a man's life, am an expert pistol shot, cliff dove in 2 countries, managed over $300 million dollars, played stickball in brooklyn, hang glided over Brazilian rain forest, written my own TV show, graduated from a #1 ranked program in the world, hiked mountains, dealt drugs (long time ago), ATTACKED BY A GANG OF WILD MONKEYS, lived on a boat for 3 years, partied for Carnival in Rio, Venice, and New Orleans, been arrested and put in jail (a couple times), been to close to 30 countries (lived in 4), am fluent in renaissance art, broken too many bones to remember, speak parts of 5 languages, was actually kicked out of a country once and made to fly home (not my fault), was almost a father and engaged, ran a black market, had sex in 2000 year old plazas where saints were once burned on a stake, thoroughly well read in classical and contemporary literature, met, partied and am friends with famous Spanish bullfighters, been questioned by the CIA, taught at a renowned university, stowed away on a train once out of desperation, camped in complete wilderness, traveled to East Germany while under Soviet Union’s control (it was as crazy and depressing as the movies portray it), ran with the bulls in Pamplona, been part of a pit crew in the mexican Baja 500 twice, been courted by the Russian Mafia (long story), won ski races in the Alps, promoted parties, and also kicked the tree of life. I just turned 30 and have been completely independent since I was 18. Funny thing is, is that I need my friends to really remember some of the crazy shit that’s gone on.

I guess the only thing left is to own a monkey, be in a heist, and get shot. Seriously, these are my goals for the next 5-20 years... climb a mountain, write a couple books, start a philanthropic organization, motorcycle around S. America, go on safari, visit the north pole (before it's gone), buy a home in Europe and in the great state of Texas, get married and have kids, and finally put an end to the and hunt down the Loch Ness monster. Anything’s possible when you’re living your own legend. What's yours?

BTW, file this under an experience I wouldn't trade ANYTHING for-- college. I don't think it's necessary for everyone to go, but for people who don't know who they are or what they're doing--then GO. What did Tyler just say about experiencing new cultures in his blog... that's what college is. That's why it was so awesome. But, to make all the memorized-learning tests bearable, make sure you study things that piques your intellectual curiosity!


The "Here’s just a few other crazy things that’s possible in reality" bit, is it just random things that are possible, or are you claiming to have done all them?
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Tyler Wrote:


Also, as for realizing that the USA is the best place to live -- that was EXACTLY what I realized from travelling.

You see most people in the USA are frustrated with their lives, and yet until you travel you don't realize what a soap-opera it is that they're generating for themselves.



TD,
I'm curious - which people have you found to be the most alligned with good living and happiness?
what do you - the guys with experience of travelling to scandanavia think of that place?
i'm told they have everything - energetic lifestyle PLUS they're relaxed about life in general. (the women are hot, too)

the average Canadian seems to be more chilled than the average American.

they did a UN survey of the happiest nation in the world, based on the average number of smiles per hour by an average person there. i know the country that came out on top - yes, people smile all the time and no, most of the smiles are not good natured ones. it was such a cute read:) - like saying the Joker is a nice guy because he laughs so much.

cheers,
Sting
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Sting, if you're American you'll love it here in Sweden, where the women are hot, climate is mellow (specially in spring), and guys are chodes. Plus, everyone speaks English.
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Escalator,
thanks. that seems to be how everyone in the know feels.

cheerio,
Sting
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I'm kind of perturbed about this last blog post.

Tyler is either on the verge of a genius breakthrough of enlightenment or masking an emptiness and devastating sadness. It sounds like there is no real enjoyment of the present moment of a normal life for Tyler anymore.

As far as the afterlife is concerned, I'm starting to think he'd damn himself just to experience Hell.

Is this really a good path to go? To completely break with society's values? I don't think the Fight Club "Tyler Durden" was that happy and healthy minded. He was more disillusioned with life, living in a crap shack, and fucking a drugged out ho. No real relationships he valued.

I hope all of you keep in mind that you can have a VERY fulfilling life within somewhat-normal constraints of life: i.e wife and kids, career path, occasional travel. There are some really really fulfilled people doing that. Anthony Robbins' material is designed for people that want to make the most of the normal situations, while still living with passion.

To think you can only enjoy life by experiencing absolute poverty and degradation and visiting every foreign country is like thinking you can only really enjoy making love by trying out every position and sex toy imaginable.

I would urge everyone here not to be an "experience junkie." Some of these experiences (such as drugs, etc.) can fuck your life up beyond repair and the real beauties of your first child being born or even witnessing a sunset will not be there for you.

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Tyler

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Slojodan, I think living in California would have a lot to do with your perspective.

You live in IMHO the greatest city of the greatest state of the greatest country in the world. You live in the place that I risked everything I had in order to get to. When I wake up every morning in California, I walk out to my balcony and look out the window and think how lucky I am.

I have a list of friends rotting in the cold back home, working unchallenging jobs, unhappy, mediocre, bored, unfulfilled, etc etc... That would have been me, and not a single one of them is happy. Not even one.

They work and work to pay bills so that they can keep running a rat race that offers them no happiness.

So for me, the inspiration for that article was the people of the past who risked it all for a better existence -- guys like my great grandfather who came to North America from England, or the original explorers who mapped the world.

Basically, guys who are teeter-tottering on going for something more, but just need that extra shove to actually do it.

The vast majority of guys will read that article and it will be in one ear and out the other, so I'm not concerned about anyone who would have previously found happiness deciding to scrap it and screwing up their lives. I have a level of influence but not THAT level of influence.

My audience is mind are guys like Lowrider69 (living in Toronto) who has a seed in his mind that's demanding water, and he's not giving it what it wants. It's starving and no matter how happy he is, unless he gives it what it needs his potential will never be actualized and deep down it's something that he'll know.

Sure, he might reframe it by saying he's learned to appreciate the simpler things in life, but that's something that he'll have time for in his 30s, 40s, 80s, etc etc... Now is the time for him to experience the world.


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