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Manwhore Wrote:
Read Gunw!tch Method: A Dynamic Sexlife for the lowdown on what being an Alpha male is. There's some other stuff out there but Gunw!tch nails it..
John Alexander is a beta trying his best to be Alpha.. I don't know of many others. DavidX is an Alpha but doesn't really describe the right mentality
I actually started reading this today and this quote had me in stitches esp considering the bulk of the community is doing this stuff.
9.5 Reading her palm, doing a psychic "cold reading", doing a handwriting analysis, playing a game of some kind ARE all LOSER behaviours as well. You may get lucky and she wont decipher that you are paying her with this entertainment and brand you a poor lover or micro penis equipped man, but it STILL does not move them into a sexual direction of any kind, so don't waste the time. Besides, tampering with these mystic forces is a one-way ticket to eternity in hell, ha ha ha.
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"I don't care how you get the attention on you. As long as it's not try hard. And once you get it, be cool enough to keep it." - Michael Wayne
The words sounds impressive but at the end of the day, I go by what is field tested and works.
Like Manwhore, I've field tested cold reading extensively, simply put, it works. HB's go doggy dinner bowl, follow you around like a puppy dog, your value is raised in their eyes.
Though I could see how it could come across as supplicant. It's not what you do, it's how you deliver it. As Ozzie said awhile back, I've seen naturals do everything AFC and still pull the girl, it's not WHAT they did, it was HOW they did it. It's possible to buy an HB a drink and come across as strong and non-needy. Just as its possible to do a cold read and come across as a wussy, or do a cold read and come across as the most high value guy she's met all week.
Handwriting analysis has also been field tested by me and works (thank you Bart Baggett and your Graphodeck). I don't do palm reading.
One last thing, after you show HB something cool like a handwriting analysis or ring finger routine or Cube or whatever, they usually want more, that's where you tell them that they have to show you something cool, and if they can't tell them to come back when they have something. This is straight out of The Game, basic 101 stuff here.
PS: example of buying a girl a drink.
I met an HB who is a Suicide Girl and we were hanging out at a bar. Nevermind "The Game", she has read the My5tery Method. So I had a ton of fun with it, I'd tell her stuff like, "This is where I'm supposed to give you a neg" and riffed on it all night long. At some point, I wanted to buy her a drink cause I was getting one for myself and someone else so I told her, ok, I'm going to be AFC now and buy you a drink, even though it's AFC, but don't expect to get anything else out of it cause I'm only doing this because I want to. And then when the drink arrived, I'm like, this is interesting, being AFC for a change! And I started chanting A-F-C, A-F-C and making the letters like Y-M-C-A. Simply put, everything is material, it's all in how and what you do with it.
Like Manwhore, I've field tested cold reading extensively, simply put, it works. HB's go doggy dinner bowl, follow you around like a puppy dog, your value is raised in their eyes.
Though I could see how it could come across as supplicant. It's not what you do, it's how you deliver it. As Ozzie said awhile back, I've seen naturals do everything AFC and still pull the girl, it's not WHAT they did, it was HOW they did it. It's possible to buy an HB a drink and come across as strong and non-needy. Just as its possible to do a cold read and come across as a wussy, or do a cold read and come across as the most high value guy she's met all week.
Handwriting analysis has also been field tested by me and works (thank you Bart Baggett and your Graphodeck). I don't do palm reading.
One last thing, after you show HB something cool like a handwriting analysis or ring finger routine or Cube or whatever, they usually want more, that's where you tell them that they have to show you something cool, and if they can't tell them to come back when they have something. This is straight out of The Game, basic 101 stuff here.
PS: example of buying a girl a drink.
I met an HB who is a Suicide Girl and we were hanging out at a bar. Nevermind "The Game", she has read the My5tery Method. So I had a ton of fun with it, I'd tell her stuff like, "This is where I'm supposed to give you a neg" and riffed on it all night long. At some point, I wanted to buy her a drink cause I was getting one for myself and someone else so I told her, ok, I'm going to be AFC now and buy you a drink, even though it's AFC, but don't expect to get anything else out of it cause I'm only doing this because I want to. And then when the drink arrived, I'm like, this is interesting, being AFC for a change! And I started chanting A-F-C, A-F-C and making the letters like Y-M-C-A. Simply put, everything is material, it's all in how and what you do with it.
doctadre Wrote:
So, how does one adopt this "can walk away anytime" attitude? I have always been a lil more sensitive by nature, and when Im in a relationship I am devoted and have a great time. I have always had this internal struggle about being able to walk away, where people like my older bro and some friends can do it...
I would like to be able to have this mindset, at least to a point. Any suggestions?
Dre
Here's what the guys around here told me a few days ago (my situation was kinda similar to yours): "When you date the girl, you tell her that in order to be your gf, she has to meet certain standards. If she doesn't meet those standards, she is NOT your gf"
You see, my chick made out with other guys. I pulled her aside the next day, told her about my standards. I told her that technically she is not my girlfriend, because she doesn't meet my standards. BOOM! She immediately agreed to stop.
I just make it clear that you have to meet standards to be my girlfriend, if you don't, your just a fuck-buddy. Girls will NOT cheat on you if you're alpha and make it clear that you have standards.
Jack-Stripper - congrats and I'm glad our advice helped you out. That's one thing I like about this board, because of the high quality level and the fact that RSD instructors post here, you can really tell who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't. Easy tell what's the good advice here.
Manwhore - just wanted to follow up with you, I'm halfway through the Gunw!tch book right now and love it, thanks for the recommendation. His straight-forward no-nonsense language is great, though there are some parts I disagree with, for example the avoiding sets with taller guys etc. I'm 5'7" on my tippy toes, if I did that I'd basically have to avoid most sets.
Manwhore - just wanted to follow up with you, I'm halfway through the Gunw!tch book right now and love it, thanks for the recommendation. His straight-forward no-nonsense language is great, though there are some parts I disagree with, for example the avoiding sets with taller guys etc. I'm 5'7" on my tippy toes, if I did that I'd basically have to avoid most sets.
Yeah Redshirt, I think Gunw!tch was just describing a situation he himself didn't particularly feel comfortable with. It's his personal sticking point that he was projecting onto the rest of us. Thanks asshole 
A lot of my friends are taller than I am.. it's pretty sad that a lot of people accept the idea that status is based on personal stature and looks. Oh my gawd it's horseshit..
Hey Dre, don't worry about trying to adopt this "I can walk away at any time" mentality. Just keep your personal boundaries and set a standard for your girl to go by with you. If she steps over them then let her know she beefed and you don't accept behavior like that. You don't need to have multiple girlfriends to feel fulfilled as a happy masculine man. We're all built different. Does this answer your question..? Or do you experience having women abuse you?
A lot of my friends are taller than I am.. it's pretty sad that a lot of people accept the idea that status is based on personal stature and looks. Oh my gawd it's horseshit..Hey Dre, don't worry about trying to adopt this "I can walk away at any time" mentality. Just keep your personal boundaries and set a standard for your girl to go by with you. If she steps over them then let her know she beefed and you don't accept behavior like that. You don't need to have multiple girlfriends to feel fulfilled as a happy masculine man. We're all built different. Does this answer your question..? Or do you experience having women abuse you?
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Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
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Say it.
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How to sext !!
Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
-rsdn
Get the Manwhore Text Displayer app from Google Play. And learn Text Game I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
Manwhore
A lot of threads in here - I got an opinion on a few of them -
Willingness to walk away is your own self-esteem - no matter who you are in a
relationship with, the more important person MUST be you - the female nauture
cannot handle being #1 in any man's life - if she does not live up to your
standards, she must know inside that you will walk - this will maker her
constantly fight to live up to your standards.
Naturals can teach you little through words - but they can teach you an
unbelievable amount through their presence - you just have to read their
behaviors and try to understant them and model them yourself - read their
body language, their values, how they treat people, their philosophy toward
women (usually really derogatory), how people relate to them, how they groom
and take care of themselves, etc. etc. etc. - they have an internal compass
which allows them to bullshit 75% of the time and still achieve better results
with women and sometimes financially too that a newb working full steam
99% of the time can't match -
A woman is very unlikely to cheat if you can naturalize yourself - you take
yourself to an elite class that is rare in our society and she will fight to hold
on to you, and women begin chasing you hard too - as long as you fulfill her
emotionally and are willing to walk, she will always be trying to meet your
standards.
However, no matter how strong you are, in an exclusive LTR your value
drops - if you are a 10, once a woman domesticates you, your value drops
to an 8 or 9 at best - and if you take yourself out of the game your skills
detiriorate to the point where you might even drop further -
But if she's a 10, she will always be a 10 until she ages or gets fat - therein
lies the problem - other HG10s may continue gaming her, arousing her
emotionally, and one day she cracks -
That is where finding a woman of high morals and values comes in - in some
cases we may need to settle for a little less just to find a strong woman that
will raise your children and especially your daughters correctly and provide
a stable household while you pursue your goals in the world.
I have a level of faith that this issue will crystallize more as my skills and
experience improve - I am sure it will for most of us.
Willingness to walk away is your own self-esteem - no matter who you are in a
relationship with, the more important person MUST be you - the female nauture
cannot handle being #1 in any man's life - if she does not live up to your
standards, she must know inside that you will walk - this will maker her
constantly fight to live up to your standards.
Naturals can teach you little through words - but they can teach you an
unbelievable amount through their presence - you just have to read their
behaviors and try to understant them and model them yourself - read their
body language, their values, how they treat people, their philosophy toward
women (usually really derogatory), how people relate to them, how they groom
and take care of themselves, etc. etc. etc. - they have an internal compass
which allows them to bullshit 75% of the time and still achieve better results
with women and sometimes financially too that a newb working full steam
99% of the time can't match -
A woman is very unlikely to cheat if you can naturalize yourself - you take
yourself to an elite class that is rare in our society and she will fight to hold
on to you, and women begin chasing you hard too - as long as you fulfill her
emotionally and are willing to walk, she will always be trying to meet your
standards.
However, no matter how strong you are, in an exclusive LTR your value
drops - if you are a 10, once a woman domesticates you, your value drops
to an 8 or 9 at best - and if you take yourself out of the game your skills
detiriorate to the point where you might even drop further -
But if she's a 10, she will always be a 10 until she ages or gets fat - therein
lies the problem - other HG10s may continue gaming her, arousing her
emotionally, and one day she cracks -
That is where finding a woman of high morals and values comes in - in some
cases we may need to settle for a little less just to find a strong woman that
will raise your children and especially your daughters correctly and provide
a stable household while you pursue your goals in the world.
I have a level of faith that this issue will crystallize more as my skills and
experience improve - I am sure it will for most of us.
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Ahhh...that makes sense. Thanks man