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doctadre Wrote:
Hey guys, I just came out of a 1 year relationship, and posted here a few times. I am doin better now, gettin out there, approaching, being social, having fun, and I am actually ENJOYING myself once again. Still workin on gettin the thoughts of the EX out of my head, and its getting better every day.
I been doin a lot of readin through the community, and have this one fear I want to eradicate wayy before I get LTR: I know, and have seen that advanced PUA's are easily able to "steal" gfs from their bfs, by being alpha, more fun, and just having more game. Sometimes the bf is a cool dude, but usually they are chodes, this is true.
For some reason, I FEAR that even if my game is really tight, and I am in another LTR with a great girl, one nite she'll be gamed by some guy and I'll look and they are making out at a bar. I guess this stems from ideas such as "No matter how skilled someone is, there are always people much more advanced, and once a girl is in a purely emotional state, they will do ANYTHING their instincts tell them to".
I have heard stories where guys have gamed WIVES from their Husbands, even, and it just bothers me a little. I would like to think that I am building myself, and my inner game, to a point where I am a VERY solid guy, as well as increasing my skillset in the game. I simply dont want this to be an issue for me EVER. I would love some feedback, tips and just the Mindset of guys who have experience in this.
Any thoughts?
Dre
It sounds to me like faithfulness is one of your core values and you're struggling with the fact that women can be attracted against their logical will. Its sad in the romantic love sense but its true. You may have trouble letting go of that idea that "there will be a girl out there just for you with no question" just as I did at one point in my life. I'm not saying that its impossible and infact, it may very well happen if you're open to the posibility. However, it is best to take a stance on the other side of the fence in the meantime. Realize that the only way she'll truely stay "obedient" to you romantically is if you have the exact type of game that she needs to keep her at bay. If you are her alpha male, she will be yours: end of story.
But....thats a privilage that you have to earn. Nothing that comes easy is ever rewarding. That shit ain't free.
~Danny
If you REALLY look at your last longterm relationship and coldy and calculatingly analyse it, you will come to the same conclusion I did. Lady was a tramp. I am ultimately trying to game the impossible woman. By impossible, I mean she won't put out before you are in a longterm relationship.
Logic is this: If she wouldn't put out for me and my game (in the future) is rock fucking solid, that is the one. She will not cheat on you as long as you can perpetuate value indefinately. If you cannot perpetuate value indefinately, lower your standards, or raise your own quality until you can.
The benefits of this approach are as follows: You become a man of quality. You will get laid alot until you find her. She is inherently a woman of immaculate morals, values and standards, IE, NOT A TRAMP. The sad fact of the matter is this; most PEOPLE, not just women, have no real undaunting sense of morality. You will probably date (just a projection here, a guess really) well over 500 women before you meet one that is of this caliber. You will likely date (once again a projection) 1500 girls before you meet one that is physically beautiful and of uncompromising morality.
If you think of it this way, it is an AMAZING investment: How much did everything you ever materially earn cost you in time and money? Get a divorce, and divide that in half, and than when that is done, ask yourself this. Was it worth half of my material investments, plus loss of child custody (assuming children)? I think that the next three to six years of my life will be spent looking for that person. The payout? Happily Ever After!
I got to this conclusion after a 3 year longterm relationship, and 3 more years of soul searching and am just now feeling able to go out and look for HER. Total time investment? 6 years before I started on the right path. I intend on spending the next 3 to six years finding HER. Learning this game is just my next step, nothing more, nothing less. Chew on that, and post a reply.
Cheers, the groundraven
Logic is this: If she wouldn't put out for me and my game (in the future) is rock fucking solid, that is the one. She will not cheat on you as long as you can perpetuate value indefinately. If you cannot perpetuate value indefinately, lower your standards, or raise your own quality until you can.
The benefits of this approach are as follows: You become a man of quality. You will get laid alot until you find her. She is inherently a woman of immaculate morals, values and standards, IE, NOT A TRAMP. The sad fact of the matter is this; most PEOPLE, not just women, have no real undaunting sense of morality. You will probably date (just a projection here, a guess really) well over 500 women before you meet one that is of this caliber. You will likely date (once again a projection) 1500 girls before you meet one that is physically beautiful and of uncompromising morality.
If you think of it this way, it is an AMAZING investment: How much did everything you ever materially earn cost you in time and money? Get a divorce, and divide that in half, and than when that is done, ask yourself this. Was it worth half of my material investments, plus loss of child custody (assuming children)? I think that the next three to six years of my life will be spent looking for that person. The payout? Happily Ever After!
I got to this conclusion after a 3 year longterm relationship, and 3 more years of soul searching and am just now feeling able to go out and look for HER. Total time investment? 6 years before I started on the right path. I intend on spending the next 3 to six years finding HER. Learning this game is just my next step, nothing more, nothing less. Chew on that, and post a reply.
Cheers, the groundraven
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Here's the thing, women ALWAYS have options. Single or married, if they're even halfway decent looking, they're being hit on 10 times a day. They may not tell you about it, but it's happening.
Instead of being worried about it, focus on being the better option. Or should I say be her best option.
It's like, let's say you're hooked up with Jessica Alba, would you give a shit if a bunch of HB8's or below hit on you? Probably not. Why? Cause Alba is the better option. Ok, so now, let's say an HB9 or HB10 hits on ya, then you're thinking hmmmm, yeah, Alba is fine but I've hit it and here I have a chance to check out this Lohan or Johansson.
But wait... you realize... Alba gives you the best head you've ever had in your entire life, can cook in a way that puts cordon blue chefs to shame, she's fun, she challenges you intellectually, and she's set the rules, that if you stray, she's walking away and never looking back, and you KNOW that's the case.
Well, given that, she sounds like the best option, so stick with the Alba.
Now I'm simplifying things massively here, but the point is, if you're the girl's best option (at least in her perception), she's staying. Demonstrate enough high value, pass her sh!t tests, flip her Emotional Needs (as you all know I subscribe to Brother Kermit's Emotional Needs theory) and she knows that you can walk away and find someone else at any moment, then it's a win/win situation for you both to be together.
(ok this is the part where I make a MAJOR digression but there's a point that fits back into the original concept, skip it if you're not interested)
That's one of the reasons why I flirt with everyone, especially with so-called not-so-attractive women. Example, Friday night I'm out with a very close friend I haven't seen in awhile, we go into a coffee shop and it's busy. Behind the counter is a Muslim woman, in her mid 40's with the headshawl on and everything, as I'm ordering I'm making small talk and the small talk is fun and escalates and pretty soon we're chatting up a storm and hitting it off. My friend is nudging me and going, "Dude, wtf are you doing? Are you trying to pick her up or something?!" and I'm like I'm vibing with her, having fun, making her feel good and bringing the party. He's stunned and he's like, "Why? It won't get you anywhere unless you want to go with her etc etc etc" and then when we finally finished the conversation, we turn around and it turns out there's an HB8 blonde and she can't take her eyes off me, she's with a guy and even though his girl is checking me up, down and all over, he can't fight it nor is he upset. I demonstrated massive value by having fun, even with someone who isn't "normally desirable". I especially love flirting with grannies because 1. they love the attention, just eat it up, I've made grandmothers giggle like little schoolgirls, it makes them feel better than walking them across the street or listening to their boring stories of days gone by 2. The HB's see this and just MELT like those faces when they opened the Ark in Indiana Jones' Raiders of the Lost Ark.
I never had a name for it until last night, I was at a friend's watching a movie, Happy Gilmore starring Adam Sandler, and I realized that's what makes Adam Sandler so charming. Check out all his movies, he's always bringing the party to grannies, animals, little kids, people that he obviously cannot get any sexual reward from, yet it makes the "targets" (the HBs when they see this) melt because they see this and realize that with or without an HB, he has fun and therefore has value. Check out Billy Madison, or Wedding Singer, I haven't seen all his movies but I'm willing to bet he does this in every movie of his. So I call it the "Adam Sandler Effect", make it a point to bring the party to people that you obviously get no sexual reward in "gaming" and that will melt all shields.
I once had dinner with a friend's parents and I was flirting heavily with his mom. Being that she's in her 70's, there was no way I was obviously hitting on her for real but she's totally loving it to the point where she's pushing her two grand daughters (one was 19 and the other was 22) on me, trying to set me up with them!
The point is, you can't live your life in what TD calls "a ball of neediness" over your girl, you've got to be the party not for an HB's sake, but for your own sake and the people around you. Make every moment of your life fun. No matter where you are or what you're doing, ask yourself, how can I make this fun? That's how you live life, with love, not in fear.
Instead of being worried about it, focus on being the better option. Or should I say be her best option.
It's like, let's say you're hooked up with Jessica Alba, would you give a shit if a bunch of HB8's or below hit on you? Probably not. Why? Cause Alba is the better option. Ok, so now, let's say an HB9 or HB10 hits on ya, then you're thinking hmmmm, yeah, Alba is fine but I've hit it and here I have a chance to check out this Lohan or Johansson.
But wait... you realize... Alba gives you the best head you've ever had in your entire life, can cook in a way that puts cordon blue chefs to shame, she's fun, she challenges you intellectually, and she's set the rules, that if you stray, she's walking away and never looking back, and you KNOW that's the case.
Well, given that, she sounds like the best option, so stick with the Alba.
Now I'm simplifying things massively here, but the point is, if you're the girl's best option (at least in her perception), she's staying. Demonstrate enough high value, pass her sh!t tests, flip her Emotional Needs (as you all know I subscribe to Brother Kermit's Emotional Needs theory) and she knows that you can walk away and find someone else at any moment, then it's a win/win situation for you both to be together.
(ok this is the part where I make a MAJOR digression but there's a point that fits back into the original concept, skip it if you're not interested)
That's one of the reasons why I flirt with everyone, especially with so-called not-so-attractive women. Example, Friday night I'm out with a very close friend I haven't seen in awhile, we go into a coffee shop and it's busy. Behind the counter is a Muslim woman, in her mid 40's with the headshawl on and everything, as I'm ordering I'm making small talk and the small talk is fun and escalates and pretty soon we're chatting up a storm and hitting it off. My friend is nudging me and going, "Dude, wtf are you doing? Are you trying to pick her up or something?!" and I'm like I'm vibing with her, having fun, making her feel good and bringing the party. He's stunned and he's like, "Why? It won't get you anywhere unless you want to go with her etc etc etc" and then when we finally finished the conversation, we turn around and it turns out there's an HB8 blonde and she can't take her eyes off me, she's with a guy and even though his girl is checking me up, down and all over, he can't fight it nor is he upset. I demonstrated massive value by having fun, even with someone who isn't "normally desirable". I especially love flirting with grannies because 1. they love the attention, just eat it up, I've made grandmothers giggle like little schoolgirls, it makes them feel better than walking them across the street or listening to their boring stories of days gone by 2. The HB's see this and just MELT like those faces when they opened the Ark in Indiana Jones' Raiders of the Lost Ark.
I never had a name for it until last night, I was at a friend's watching a movie, Happy Gilmore starring Adam Sandler, and I realized that's what makes Adam Sandler so charming. Check out all his movies, he's always bringing the party to grannies, animals, little kids, people that he obviously cannot get any sexual reward from, yet it makes the "targets" (the HBs when they see this) melt because they see this and realize that with or without an HB, he has fun and therefore has value. Check out Billy Madison, or Wedding Singer, I haven't seen all his movies but I'm willing to bet he does this in every movie of his. So I call it the "Adam Sandler Effect", make it a point to bring the party to people that you obviously get no sexual reward in "gaming" and that will melt all shields.
I once had dinner with a friend's parents and I was flirting heavily with his mom. Being that she's in her 70's, there was no way I was obviously hitting on her for real but she's totally loving it to the point where she's pushing her two grand daughters (one was 19 and the other was 22) on me, trying to set me up with them!
The point is, you can't live your life in what TD calls "a ball of neediness" over your girl, you've got to be the party not for an HB's sake, but for your own sake and the people around you. Make every moment of your life fun. No matter where you are or what you're doing, ask yourself, how can I make this fun? That's how you live life, with love, not in fear.
An Alpha male fulfills a role in her life- whether it be her boyfriend, husband, or the man she cheats with.
If you are her alpha she won't need to find it anywhere else..
She will also know if some other male is trying to subvert this to try and fill this role, if she's a confident girl then she will enjoy talking to him, but draw the line. If she's not that confident she will run away or say she's taken..
She can be having girl's night out, and still know where she stands. A lot of people think you have to be rough and muscle-bound to be an Alpha. Actually a lot of those guys are turds..
Read Gunw!tch Method: A Dynamic Sexlife for the lowdown on what being an Alpha male is. There's some other stuff out there but Gunw!tch nails it..
John Alexander is a beta trying his best to be Alpha.. I don't know of many others. DavidX is an Alpha but doesn't really describe the right mentality
If you are her alpha she won't need to find it anywhere else..
She will also know if some other male is trying to subvert this to try and fill this role, if she's a confident girl then she will enjoy talking to him, but draw the line. If she's not that confident she will run away or say she's taken..
She can be having girl's night out, and still know where she stands. A lot of people think you have to be rough and muscle-bound to be an Alpha. Actually a lot of those guys are turds..
Read Gunw!tch Method: A Dynamic Sexlife for the lowdown on what being an Alpha male is. There's some other stuff out there but Gunw!tch nails it..
John Alexander is a beta trying his best to be Alpha.. I don't know of many others. DavidX is an Alpha but doesn't really describe the right mentality
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Groundraven.. you place waay too much emphasis on the women being of a certain calibre before you can trust them. No no and no..
It all depends on YOU! Read Redshirt's post above.. being Alpha and that emotional needs thing and you own her.
I've had so-called "Tramps" stalk me and want to know what I'm doing at all times.. she wants me to fulfill the role in her life and chases me
TD on a David D seminar cd laid it out the best I've ever heard.. Girls are very socially flexible creatures- she can be an absolute party girl and bang new guys all the time, and then meet one special guy and be his solely his for as long as he wants her. Or there can be a girl who's with a husband- grew up in church, yada yada, meets a certain guy and cheats with him just out of the blue.
It all depends on YOU! Read Redshirt's post above.. being Alpha and that emotional needs thing and you own her.
I've had so-called "Tramps" stalk me and want to know what I'm doing at all times.. she wants me to fulfill the role in her life and chases me
TD on a David D seminar cd laid it out the best I've ever heard.. Girls are very socially flexible creatures- she can be an absolute party girl and bang new guys all the time, and then meet one special guy and be his solely his for as long as he wants her. Or there can be a girl who's with a husband- grew up in church, yada yada, meets a certain guy and cheats with him just out of the blue.
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But he has the `energy`.
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I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
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But he has the `energy`.
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Say it.
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You shouldn’t of said that.
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Manwhore
Manwhore, great post, there's a reason why David X can't describe it. Because he's a natural. Naturals do this stuff unconsciously, they never had to model it, so ironic but true, they don't know what the f--k they're doing, even though they're doing something right.
It's funny because I was out with an mPUA friend tonight who lived in Montreal, and David X was one of his mentors. In fact, David X even mentions this friend specifically in his D-Why-D interview. After spending much time with David X, he realized that because David X is a natural, there is no way David X could enter his reality and explain to him the process and principles behind what he is doing to help him progress. He'll just say, "Do this, it works for me" and when he did it, it blew up in his face.
I just came home from having coffee with this friend and we talked about David X so this was all fresh in my mind.
That being said, once you reach a certain level, it is possible to learn from naturals, to break down what they are doing and why it works, but only because you have already internalized the process and principles and have the calibration necessary to see how a natural's game works.
My above friend has a brother that read The Game but he was already a natural. When he discovered the book, he tried some things and his game actually got worse, then as he gained unconscious competence of those new ideas, his game got better. We ended up talking for quite a bit today and for everything he was doing that he said was working for him, I could break down exactly why it was working and the principles behind it. He was stunned, because he couldn't explain why it worked, he only did it because it was "natural" to him.
I also had a very difficult time with the D-Why-D material. In fact, awhile back I even said on this board that I had to unlearn it all, it was true, D-Why-D material without the proper calibration and understandings is not very effective. However, I recently have been re-introducing the D-Why-D material back into my game because now knowing the context in which it works, it makes sense. Which makes me feel a lot better because previous to my meeting my mentors, I spent most of my time studying pretty much nothing but D-Why-D and without the other missing blanks filled, it wasn't very useful, so it's nice to know that time wasn't completely a write-off.
It's funny because I was out with an mPUA friend tonight who lived in Montreal, and David X was one of his mentors. In fact, David X even mentions this friend specifically in his D-Why-D interview. After spending much time with David X, he realized that because David X is a natural, there is no way David X could enter his reality and explain to him the process and principles behind what he is doing to help him progress. He'll just say, "Do this, it works for me" and when he did it, it blew up in his face.
I just came home from having coffee with this friend and we talked about David X so this was all fresh in my mind.
That being said, once you reach a certain level, it is possible to learn from naturals, to break down what they are doing and why it works, but only because you have already internalized the process and principles and have the calibration necessary to see how a natural's game works.
My above friend has a brother that read The Game but he was already a natural. When he discovered the book, he tried some things and his game actually got worse, then as he gained unconscious competence of those new ideas, his game got better. We ended up talking for quite a bit today and for everything he was doing that he said was working for him, I could break down exactly why it was working and the principles behind it. He was stunned, because he couldn't explain why it worked, he only did it because it was "natural" to him.
I also had a very difficult time with the D-Why-D material. In fact, awhile back I even said on this board that I had to unlearn it all, it was true, D-Why-D material without the proper calibration and understandings is not very effective. However, I recently have been re-introducing the D-Why-D material back into my game because now knowing the context in which it works, it makes sense. Which makes me feel a lot better because previous to my meeting my mentors, I spent most of my time studying pretty much nothing but D-Why-D and without the other missing blanks filled, it wasn't very useful, so it's nice to know that time wasn't completely a write-off.
I think a lot of it has to do with DavidX not being a very inteligent dude and not being self-reflective in any way. From what I could tell- and I'm using PU jargon I might not be using correctly- he's a value-taker, but he is so "I don't give a fuck" that people fall into his frame and think he's actually the one doing things right.
And if I'm wrong then DavidX can come find me and we'll wrestle..
Not necessarily sure that if you're a natural you can't teach others.. thoughts?
And if I'm wrong then DavidX can come find me and we'll wrestle..
Not necessarily sure that if you're a natural you can't teach others.. thoughts?
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But he has the `energy`.
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I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
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How to sext !!
Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
-rsdn
Get the Manwhore Text Displayer app from Google Play. And learn Text Game I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
Manwhore
Manwhore Wrote:
I think a lot of it has to do with DavidX not being a very inteligent dude and not being self-reflective in any way. From what I could tell- and I'm using PU jargon I might not be using correctly- he's a value-taker, but he is so "I don't give a fuck" that people fall into his frame and think he's actually the one doing things right.
And if I'm wrong then DavidX can come find me and we'll wrestle..
Not necessarily sure that if you're a natural you can't teach others.. thoughts?
Dude, you pretty much nailed it wrt David X. Did you happen to know him or something? Because what you said basically echoed exactly what people who knew him have said to me about him. I've never met the guy, I enjoyed his almost grandfatherly talk on the D-Why-D material.
As far as whether naturals can or cannot teach others, that's an debate that I have with my mentors, who are naturals, whether they are born naturals or learned naturals. I tend think that born naturals cannot teach non-naturals as well as learned naturals. That being said, I think that born naturals can elevate the game of other born or learned naturals.
Manwhore Wrote:
Groundraven.. you place waay too much emphasis on the women being of a certain calibre before you can trust them. No no and no..
It all depends on YOU! Read Redshirt's post above.. being Alpha and that emotional needs thing and you own her.
I've had so-called "Tramps" stalk me and want to know what I'm doing at all times.. she wants me to fulfill the role in her life and chases me
TD on a David D seminar cd laid it out the best I've ever heard.. Girls are very socially flexible creatures- she can be an absolute party girl and bang new guys all the time, and then meet one special guy and be his solely his for as long as he wants her. Or there can be a girl who's with a husband- grew up in church, yada yada, meets a certain guy and cheats with him just out of the blue.
I half disagree with you. I highly respect your opinions, and you are 99 percent right 90 percent of the time. This is an area where I don't think you have thought your reply through, or read my post thoroughly enough. Fine, tramps stalk you. Thats what makes them a tramp in the first place. Did you miss the part of my post where I said bring the value? Did you not read the theory? Maybee you aim too low for this theory to bear fruit? Maybee my numbers are not correct, I should lower the odds to 1000 to 1, / 3000 to 1? Maybee your just such a playa that your odds are ridiculously high, like 5000 to one, and 15000 to one respectively? ;) All I can say is she IS out there, and you haven't found her yet, or you are not ready to find her yet. As for the church girl? She is married to a chode that leaves her wanting more out of life. Two more points. Have you ever actually met a girl as I have described and did you misinterpret it as being blown out, AND, I intend on offering that same type of woman perpetual value emotionally, physically, and spiritually. If I fail it IS my fault. I am otherwise in agreeance to both you and redshirt.
Cheers, the groundraven
PS, his lady was a tramp, as are 99% of all women and men.
PPS, 99% of men probably fail her emotionally, spiritually, and physically.
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Which D y D material was he on? I'd like to listen to him..
No I've never met him, I can just tell. I think me being able to just "tell" things about people is what makes me do what I do. I do real cold reads..
No I've never met him, I can just tell. I think me being able to just "tell" things about people is what makes me do what I do. I do real cold reads..
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Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
-rsdn
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I know what you are.
Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
Manwhore
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Look at manwhore. The guy is so ugly that I think he's face was on fire and they put out the fire using a baseball bet.
But he has the `energy`.
-rsdn
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Say it.
Manwhore.
Are you afraid?
No.
You shouldn’t of said that.
I'm the world's best predator, aren't I? Everything about me invites you in - my voice, my face, even my smell. As if I need any of that! As if you could outrun me. As if you could fight me off.
Manwhore
doctadre
Member
Join Date: 11/08/2006 | Posts: 60
I been doin a lot of readin through the community, and have this one fear I want to eradicate wayy before I get LTR: I know, and have seen that advanced PUA's are easily able to "steal" gfs from their bfs, by being alpha, more fun, and just having more game. Sometimes the bf is a cool dude, but usually they are chodes, this is true.
For some reason, I FEAR that even if my game is really tight, and I am in another LTR with a great girl, one nite she'll be gamed by some guy and I'll look and they are making out at a bar. I guess this stems from ideas such as "No matter how skilled someone is, there are always people much more advanced, and once a girl is in a purely emotional state, they will do ANYTHING their instincts tell them to".
I have heard stories where guys have gamed WIVES from their Husbands, even, and it just bothers me a little. I would like to think that I am building myself, and my inner game, to a point where I am a VERY solid guy, as well as increasing my skillset in the game. I simply dont want this to be an issue for me EVER. I would love some feedback, tips and just the Mindset of guys who have experience in this.
Any thoughts?
Dre