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May 25th, 2013
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Nowhere

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Join Date: 09/20/2006 | Posts: 1229

Generally it seems like to get good, it takes about 3-5 years of going out 5 nights a week. Good being where it seems most RSD and other top level PUAs seem to be at, being able to pull on most nights, having at least half a dozen FBs, and being somewhere between beginning to proficient at more advanced shit like 3somes and 15min bathroom pulls.
That's fine. 3-5 years is really not that long in the grand scheme of things.

But those of you who went all out for that period of time, and especially wnet 7 nights a week, how exactly did you finance yourself? Did you put your career temporarily on hold and work part-time and just made ends meet and then got back to it? Or did you keep working on your general path (graduate/professional school or job) while going out this much as well?

I could see with impeccable time management skills and low (well, "normal", low compared to the typical 70 hour shift most professional Americans get these days) and flexible hours, you can pull this off without being a zombie at work or constant everyday use of an assload of stimulants. If you're self-employed or a contracter with an established base of customers, you'll do fine. But that's hardly something that is a reliable option (not that it's not worth a try, but it's a back-up's necessary) straight out of school.

I guess now for the instructors they are just..PU instructors as a job so this isn't a problem, but what about on the way to becoming that good?

Those of us who are college RAFCs aren't going to be in college forever...

guys who go out regularly who aren't instructors (LowRider, drjekyll?), what do you guys do? how'd you get tehre?
(not that I plan to copy what you do, I bet my intellectual/career interests are pretty different, but it'd be nice to get some handle of some your approaches to a PU-friendly lifestyle career)
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Tyler

Tyler

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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 6902

Try happy-hours during the week if you can, and do night time on Thurs, Fri, Sat..


Tyler
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bdigi99

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70 hours a week huh? where u getting these numbers ...

thursday night, friday night, saturday night, saturday daytime, sunday daytime

there's ur 5
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#3

Golgo13

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Join Date: 11/06/2006 | Posts: 28

Hey,

I'm not in the same category of those you mentioned, but it inspired a quick search:

The average American watches 4 hours and 35 minutes of TV a day.

And a thought:

I think we really short change ourselves on what we can accomplish in a given day, with the time we are given.

When I was in the Buddhist temple, we would eat twice a day, meditate (walking, sitting) for about 18 hours, and sleep for four hours a night, midnight until 4 am.

I never felt tired, or hungry.

Now, with all the stress and trauma that people tend to accumulate in the daily lives perhaps "unwinding" and "relaxing" is neccessary in front of the TV. But if that's the case, I gotta ask ...

How Alpha are you being in your daily life?

Last bit:

Old quote from a famous horse trainer:

"It all goes into the horse."

Excellence wasn't something that happened a few hours a day during training, it was "on" 24/7. The food was the highest quality, the sleep undisturbed, that sort of thing. Buddhism has a fair amount to say about cultivating excellence in all aspects of your life

Of course, this might lead other to believe you're a bit of a fanatic ... but I gotta mention an exchange I once observed been a group of students, and a World Class Wushu (Kung Fu) performer, he was speaking about one of his training partners, how she was finishing up her masters degree, competing in the upcoming world championships, teaches yoga, plays the violin, and is heavily involved in various human rights organizations ...

-something like that, I can't remember the exact details-

Somebody piped up, "How does she have time for a life with all that going on?"


"That is her life."



He had a great quote:

"Over a 100 trillion cells, living, breathing, creating, miraculously and defiantly creating life where there should be none ... all blurting out in unison:

'Did you see the last Simpsons episode?'



Not sure if this has any relevance to your situation, but it's kinda what ran through my head.

Best,
G13
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Nowhere

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Tyler,
Didn't think of that. Good call.

I also recall somewhere that you were planning to or currently in graduate school for philosophy. I'm considering graduate school (possibly immediately, possibly with time off after graduation), but I'm very wary because all I've heard is that it sucks up your entire day (and beyond PU there are other hobbies I'd like to devote time to..and undergrad's already fuckin stressing me..). Though maybe depend on funding (some force you to work several different RA and TAships, some don't) and you can change up the pace (4 vs 6 years)? Curious what your (and others') experience is with that.

bdigi,
The majority of the kids I know who graduate and go on to work each year.

Golgo,
Interesting. I think it's been years since I've seen a full TV show. And I guess some people have impeccable time management skills. I'll read a bunch of stuff on that when I get the chance.
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#5

Zyklon

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Join Date: 11/11/2006 | Posts: 2

Here's how I go about it.
I've been annoyed in the past by my unproductive behaviours like going out and sarging, getting some results and stop going out consistently. I dont want this to happen anymore so now Im working on my habits and would like to prove to myself some productive habits before I even think of becoming badass with women.
So now Im adapting into a sober lifestyle so I can save money for when Im ready Ill have the dough AND habits to start my new journey.
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bdigi99

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Nowhere Wrote:
Tyler,
Didn't think of that. Good call.

I also recall somewhere that you were planning to or currently in graduate school for philosophy. I'm considering graduate school (possibly immediately, possibly with time off after graduation), but I'm very wary because all I've heard is that it sucks up your entire day (and beyond PU there are other hobbies I'd like to devote time to..and undergrad's already fuckin stressing me..). Though maybe depend on funding (some force you to work several different RA and TAships, some don't) and you can change up the pace (4 vs 6 years)? Curious what your (and others') experience is with that.

bdigi,
The majority of the kids I know who graduate and go on to work each year.

Golgo,
Interesting. I think it's been years since I've seen a full TV show. And I guess some people have impeccable time management skills. I'll read a bunch of stuff on that when I get the chance.



Dude, when it comes down to it, you're just blatantly looking for excuses as to why you can't get this part of your life handled. Everything in your post is an exaggeration of how little time you think you have, and how much time you expect it to take to get good.

Its your life, no one here ultimately cares if you want to excuse your way out of making the effort. Its only you who will have to live with the consequences.
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#7

Big Ike

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Join Date: 11/11/2006 | Posts: 60

Take the PUA mindset with you everywhere. Coffee shops, food stores, car wash, etc. Even though in nightclubs there are lots of chicks, most of them have a thick shell that you have to break to get the goods. Go out and don't drink, saves lots of money this way.
Work your magic through out the day. I have met hot as chicks in daylight who never go to nightclubs!

Don't stop the game
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#8

Lowrider69

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Join Date: 10/08/2006 | Posts: 633

Nowhere Wrote:

guys who go out regularly who aren't instructors (LowRider, drjekyll?), what do you guys do? how'd you get tehre?


About eight months ago made commitment to go out EVERY WEEKEND... no matter what... that consistency has helped... and dude, sometimes i HAVE been zombie at work... but zombie with smile on my face...

I'm working in sales at the moment. I chose that field because it forces me to chat people and opposite of analytical, and there are lots of alpha males at the office so its pretty cool environment.


cheers,
Lowrider
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#9

LondonPUA

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Join Date: 08/26/2006 | Posts: 26

Pickup is a damn good career.
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Lowrider69

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Nowhere Wrote:
Generally it seems like to get good, it takes about 3-5 years of going out 5 nights a week. Good being where it seems most RSD and other top level PUAs seem to be at, being able to pull on most nights, having at least half a dozen FBs, and being somewhere between beginning to proficient at more advanced shit like 3somes and 15min bathroom pulls.


Hey man,

I want to clarify your thinking little bit.

Sameday pulls are the most difficult part of this skillset... it involves alot of tricky logistical issues...

I wouldn't focus SOLELY on that skillset... collect phone numbers whenever possible and do meetups... and when the opportunity for sameday is there, push the interaction.


cheers,
Lowrider
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