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December 9th, 2016
Q. For Mike: Club Pulls
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Dre321

Dre321

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Join Date: 10/02/2006 | Posts: 615

Mike, I've been working a lot on same-night club pulls as you know, been having some mild successes with it.

I'm fine to get the girls really pumped, kino escalate congruently, and more and more they are responsive to cavemanning. My problem are the next steps. I don't know what to do from there. I just keep trying to pump them. I don't know how to suggest the pull, since these things happen so fast and I can't seem to slow down in set (ironic, I know).

I like fast escalations, but how should I pull the girl home, technically speaking, after I started to physically escalate. What do you suggest? Isolating from her friends inside club, leading her outside directly to my car??? What do i say once we're outside (it's likely that I'll get some resistance) I just get confused since it's still out of my reality pulling a girl that fast!confused

Any feedback you can tell me I'd greatly appreciate. The more specific the better

Thanks for your time man, I wish you the best

Andre
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Thrillseeker

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Join Date: 08/23/2006 | Posts: 426

(KJ Alert: I've only pulled same-night twice over the course of a year, and it was what you'd call "fools mate." So I'm mostly regurgitating advice rather than speaking from experience, but nevertheless I'm confident that this advice is sound.)

First you want to extract from the club. Going strait home is a big step. Bounce somewhere for food for first. Then you've been on a "date" sort of (in her mind), you're now "out" and you're "with" her, not just some "random guy" in a club. Then bounce home--use some excuse, something TOTALLY AWESOME there that she HAS TO see. In both cases, oversell the shit out of it.

If this is your goal now, push it. Try to extract EVERY TIME. Just go for it. Keep going for it.
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Snyper

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Join Date: 10/06/2006 | Posts: 810

I had an epiphany not long ago, as i used to be in the same situation.

KEY WORD: SEDUCTION

Seduce the girl, dude. Make her WANT to go home with you. Make her BEG you to take her home. don't think of it so technically. It's courtship

Make her hot, make out, insinuate, own that shit. When you're pulling a girl back to your place, you should BOTH KNOW you're going to fuck. Getting food first could be a nice detour, further escalate and dhv, but you and her should KNOW whats goin down.

If you want to be more subtle, just walk/escourt her home to make sure she "gets there safely". Then, if you've calibrated it correctly, she'll invite you in. If not, invite yourself in. Ask for a drink of water (cant count how many girls ive laid by asking for a drink of water, after driving them home).

So, my point is, unless she wants to sleep with you, she wont. You need to make her WANT to. If youre getting resistance, it's because shes not feeling the vibe and she doesnt want to.

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lackofstyle

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Join Date: 09/13/2006 | Posts: 83

There's a few possible issues here. How well you have to do this depends on how strong her anti-slut defense is. Clearly, she'll flake more often if she's got higher asd.

If she's got low asd, just try bringing up the topic of coming back with you, dont mention sex verbally, just imply it. You can sometimes go straight home from the club. However, it's usually still important to keep the same vibe between the 2 of you. This can be a bit of a challenge when there's a change of environment as her comfort levels change. I'm thinking of putting up a field report about something that happened about a month ago where i managed to get back to someone's apartment then she backed down but i don't know how relevant it is to pickup theory. However, with the LMR it might be useful to compare to someone in your situation.

However, the more 'technically correct' way of doing it i guess for someone with high asd is to first isolate them and move them to a different area of the same club (you should already have reached the social hook point and if you're escalating kino then she already wants you). If you've done it right, her friends should like you too. So once you've isolated into a different area of that club go for the kiss close, do whatever, knock yourself out. THEN...bounce to a different club (c2)...usually lounge bars are good for this. She'll get used to being around you, feel less random and as you're in a different setting it'll build comfort a lot faster.

After you've spent sufficient time in the other club, make subtle inquiries about going to your place or her place or whatever. This should give you a much better chance.

oh yeah...as to what you say once you're outside. it doesnt matter what you say as long as you keep it flowing 'naturally' if you know what i mean?
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Dre321

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Alright, Thanks for the feedback guys. All sound advice

Will be sure to test it soon. Even tonight :)
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Mike

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Join Date: 08/20/2006 | Posts: 23

it seems that you're being a bit wishy-washy in terms of your method of going for the pull. it's not that one way of extracting is that much better than another, it's that you have to decide on how specifically you're going to go for the pull and execute it. for example, I am very frank and straightforward when I go for the extraction, and i'm able to get it to work because of my assertiveness and frame control. someone like jlaix on the other hand does indirect pulls, yet we both have a similar success rate. so decide on a way you're going to go about getting the extraction, push for the extraction, and then swing for the fences...
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Snyper

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You definitely have to switch gears to make the pull.

In my game, there's 3 gears.

Gear 1: Alpha, dominant, cool guy, high status sexy guy
Gear 2: Initiate attraction, kino escalate, DHV, dance, isolate, cavemann kissclose
Gear 3: More cavemanning, higher kino escalating with teasing and retreating, display lack of neediness... Mix together, stirr gently, then Pull that shit!

Best to get the number/email close in mid-late gear 2, or early gear 3..

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