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Demn, that's one awesome post... I've never read anything worthwhile on this topic...
I'm like, in dreamland right now, woooow... Look at all the clouds...
But just wondering.. When saying like "Hey dude, you look kinda strange, are you taking drugs ?", won´t they just take it like an insult ? Or worse, he really does drugs...
I'm like, in dreamland right now, woooow... Look at all the clouds...
But just wondering.. When saying like "Hey dude, you look kinda strange, are you taking drugs ?", won´t they just take it like an insult ? Or worse, he really does drugs...
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You will conquer your fear around women as you get more and more field experience. This is the key to overcoming any challenge and obstacle. It's about developing new reference points so that your intution, skillset, and calibration with women get better.
I think I speak for a lot of broz out there when I say.... wish I'd known this stuff at high school!
Also...
Her....she's pure evil! (give a knowing look)
Her...of course, she's my sister!
Her....she cost me 10 bucks plus delivery
Her....she's got 11 toes you know!
Her....she tried to bite my left nipple off the other day!
Sorry got carried away there! Making up for all the years of 'ummm...yeah'
Ken Wrote:
AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
Also...
Her....she's pure evil! (give a knowing look)
Her...of course, she's my sister!
Her....she cost me 10 bucks plus delivery
Her....she's got 11 toes you know!
Her....she tried to bite my left nipple off the other day!
Sorry got carried away there! Making up for all the years of 'ummm...yeah'
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Hope amogging and BF destroying will be covered in the Blueprint. Another line I've thought to use if someone's gettting confrontational, threatening to "Kick your ass," is to say, "Why don't you do us all a favor, buddy... And go kick your own ass."
Disclaimer: That line hasn't been field tested, but only because it's been years since someone has threatened to fight me. But I think the mechanics of it should work. You're showing you could care less whether or not this guy is tough enough to kick your ass. It's also suggesting the guy is an over confrontational tool.
Disclaimer: That line hasn't been field tested, but only because it's been years since someone has threatened to fight me. But I think the mechanics of it should work. You're showing you could care less whether or not this guy is tough enough to kick your ass. It's also suggesting the guy is an over confrontational tool.
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Dr. Zeus Wrote:
Hope amogging and BF destroying will be covered in the Blueprint. Another line I've thought to use if someone's gettting confrontational, threatening to "Kick your ass," is to say, "Why don't you do us all a favor, buddy... And go kick your own ass."
Disclaimer: That line hasn't been field tested, but only because it's been years since someone has threatened to fight me. But I think the mechanics of it should work. You're showing you could care less whether or not this guy is tough enough to kick your ass. It's also suggesting the guy is an over confrontational tool.
Well, that's a pretty condiscending line man, don´t you think ? It's also like your talking for the group, I've found that bad in my experience...
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Her....she's pure evil! (give a knowing look)
Her...of course, she's my sister!
Her....she cost me 10 bucks plus delivery
Her....she's got 11 toes you know!
Her....she tried to bite my left nipple off the other day!
Cool ones man, but the last one is more in line of what I find rather helpful... it implies you know her pretty well ( "Her....she's got 11 toes you know!", also does but it isn´t referring to a specific incident) and gets you into some good stuff. It also lets you continue after the line...
PUA: "Her....she tried to bite my left nipple off the other day!"
HER: "ye, you liked it too, hehe" OR "blahblah, punch , no I didn´t!"
PUA: "you know she always embaresses me infront of cool dudes like yourself, it's really awkward at times, especially when she gets into what she does to me in bed", whatever, this can continue forever, that's what comforts me... don´t know about you guys... you can do this even if she said the latter... just twist it a bit: PUA: "It's so cute when you're embaressed of me telling everybody what naughty things you do to me... etc..."
And ye, the first response is funnier because I will often say like later on:
PUA (whispering right before I introduce her or start talking to someone): "Don´t embarass me by blabbing on about our sexlife again, lets make a good first impression on these people for once dear!", with a husband and wife mingeling tone kindof.. And then maybe referring to it later on by using it with Tyler's "Wedding" routine...
Tired...........must...........sleep...........
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You will conquer your fear around women as you get more and more field experience. This is the key to overcoming any challenge and obstacle. It's about developing new reference points so that your intution, skillset, and calibration with women get better.
Cool stuff.
What about just a one liner thats easy to remember?? any one know any ?:D
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What about just a one liner thats easy to remember?? any one know any ?:D
"Cool, man" (even if it doesn't make much sense) and put your arm on his shoulder. DO NOT orient your BL toward the AMOG.
For more, see this, esp. Slojodan's post http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/community/showthread.php?t=8502
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There's a couple of tactics I like to use every now and again, I usually go to parties so these have only been party field tested.
When I go out I usually travel with a couple of buddies of mine and one buddy of mine is probably the best AMO I know, so when ever I'm talking to girls I'll just raise my voice look over for him and yell/talk loud directly to him and like over everyone's head "Dude Tim this guy's looking for someone to talk to you think you could come talk to him" Then my buddy will walk over either with his girls he's talking to or by himself and just like step between the guy and us, and works his magic. But it works well because you're talking over everyone and everyone at the party starts to pay attention and the guy looks like a total toolbag.
2nd) I only tried this twice but worked both times and my buddy used it once at a party too, this also works good for the UG friends or even your target if you want her to jump through some hoops. But I usually carry my Ipod with me and if we're talking about something music kind of related I just say "dude you gotta hear (such and such's) new song" then I pull out the Ipod and hand them the headphones and they just sit there listening to it while we're all talking.
3) Tylers cup trick is pretty good too but I usually go with number 1, if you have a friend like that
When I go out I usually travel with a couple of buddies of mine and one buddy of mine is probably the best AMO I know, so when ever I'm talking to girls I'll just raise my voice look over for him and yell/talk loud directly to him and like over everyone's head "Dude Tim this guy's looking for someone to talk to you think you could come talk to him" Then my buddy will walk over either with his girls he's talking to or by himself and just like step between the guy and us, and works his magic. But it works well because you're talking over everyone and everyone at the party starts to pay attention and the guy looks like a total toolbag.
2nd) I only tried this twice but worked both times and my buddy used it once at a party too, this also works good for the UG friends or even your target if you want her to jump through some hoops. But I usually carry my Ipod with me and if we're talking about something music kind of related I just say "dude you gotta hear (such and such's) new song" then I pull out the Ipod and hand them the headphones and they just sit there listening to it while we're all talking.
3) Tylers cup trick is pretty good too but I usually go with number 1, if you have a friend like that
Amoging is an anti-social behavior.
Remaining relentlessly positive and unreactive to AMOGS will result in the best response.
Of course, in reality this is not always possible. In the field, sometimes you have to AMOG but I use it as a last resort. Usually, I introduce myself and simply continue to game the group as a whole.
Remaining relentlessly positive and unreactive to AMOGS will result in the best response.
Of course, in reality this is not always possible. In the field, sometimes you have to AMOG but I use it as a last resort. Usually, I introduce myself and simply continue to game the group as a whole.
Yeah I agree with forever I think this kind of behavior can be insulting to the guy and should be solved as possitively as possible for you to get the girls.
I want to have a scenerio where a dude will out alpah me socially but the girls will see I am having more fun and come to me. well actually that will be hard for them to get away from him if he is dominating even if they want.
OK SO IT IS OK TO OUT ALPAH A DUDE it is just as fair as he was about to get your girls.
I want to have a scenerio where a dude will out alpah me socially but the girls will see I am having more fun and come to me. well actually that will be hard for them to get away from him if he is dominating even if they want.
OK SO IT IS OK TO OUT ALPAH A DUDE it is just as fair as he was about to get your girls.
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The easy way to handle any alpha is to be polite to him, but act disinterested by his rap/accomplishments using tonality/body language (without coming off as patronizing/sarcastic) while simultaneously being charming to others around you. This will drop his perceived value and cause him to qualify himself to try and raise it back up. He can't fight you or do shit like that, and he can't move to insults, because you've been polite and in doing so he would be making himself look VERY BAD. The only tactic vs this is to walk away. If you reward him just enough to encourage further qualifying but not enough to make him feel validated again he will fall into line as beta in relation to you. I blow out rich men in power outfits, top ranking professors in schools, 300lb bouncers, police officers and gangers ALL THE TIME. This shit works - if you do it right they will work VERY HARD to be your friend.
Ultra quick and effective AMOG destroyer
This is just like the JAP Busting stuff, where you say "you're cool", as a way of tricking him to qualify himself to you.
He's stuck, because if he DOES do well, he's qualified himself to you. If he doesn't, he's failed to. The only answer he would have would be to say back to you "hey now, you're cool.. I didn't mean to step on your toes man.. You're a smart guy, keep talking to her and I'll watch and learn man!"..
Of course to that, you could reply, "You just met me and you already say I'm smart and cool? hahah"
More AMOG destroyer
AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I fucked her.
(Girl will go "aaaaaaaaah... hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she'll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you...).
AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she's a slut..
(Again, girl will start going "nooooo!" while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)
AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go "no no no... we love you PUA.. noooooo" and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)
AMOG: Hey girls what's up (or whatever)
PUA: Dude, OMG that shirt is AWESOME.. I had one just like it in highschool, it fucking rocks man.. Having a good time in London man.. It's awesome huh? Dude you're like the coolest guy I met all night.. (patting him on the shoulder)..
AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!
(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
AMOG: Hey man.. keep talking.. no no, let's hear your pitch man.. pick these girls up man, you're doing awesome.
PUA: Hey, you know I've gotta try to impress you COOL (x-city, x-dressed, x-whateverquality) guys.. You guys fucking ROCK.
(cut him down on whatever limited amount of knowledge you have of him, even if its not relevant whatsoever, he'll feel uncomfortable and his bodylanguage will show it)
AMOG: (starts touching you to show dominance)
PUA: hahhaha, DUUUUDE, I'm not into guys man... dude, there's club-gay-whatever over there man.. hands off the merchandise buddy
(girls laugh at him, then he starts qualifying himself to you that he's not gay)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)
AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")
PUA: dude, you're like Bart Simpson all grown up.. (for guys who pull the college-guy type out alpha on you)
PUA: dude, you're like the Joan Rivers of the club.. I love all the little comments and shit.. (to imply like he does nothing but sits on the sidelines making comments but doesn't take action, so use this on guys who have that characteristic in the club venue)
PUA: That was really good man, you're like a comedian.
OR, if the dude is out-alpha'ing you, keep going until he's TOO into it, and then let him do a bunch of condescending shit on you in a row. Look at the girls like you're bored or sad, and because he's talking TOO MUCH he's therefore qualifying himself to you and losing. Then say to the girls "he's playing the condescention game.. I already won so I stopped now.. who do you guys think won, me or him?" (key is that you looked SAD so the girls start going "awww, he's so sweet", so they'll say you won because they love you now)
For super aggressive AMOGs who try to pick fights
AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: Dude, are you pissed that you're rolling with all guys?
AMOG: blah blah
PUA: dude, your all guy crew is so slick man.. where are your girls dude, what happened tonight?
AMOG: let's go outside..
PUA: guy man, I'm with chicks right now.. I'M INTO CHICKS.. I can't get into this experimental kinky shit with you right now, I have my hands full.. (misinterpreting that he was trying to sleep with you, not fight you)
AMOG: blah blah..
PUA: dude, that shirt rocks.. Tommy Hilfiger.. awesome.. man, back in highschool I used to have the one with like all these cool stripes on it.. it was awesome..
AMOG: fight blah blah..
PUA: guy man, these chicks just told me that they dig you like so bad.. you don't have to fight to prove yourself to them.. they think you're an alphamale dude.. you don't need to try so HARD man.. just BE REAL..
Once you get the guy to qualify himself to you in any way (like he tries to make friends), rather than being nice, IMMEDIATELY cut him out of the circle. Just cut him out. You'll notice trying to SHUT YOUR GAME DOWN by bombarding you with logical questions. They'll start pummeling you with logical stuff, so that you have to answer him the girls fall out of state. For me I found the solution was just to say "hey man, don't get all scientific on me.. we're here to have fun.." and then immediately start gaming the girls again. btw, if I'm out with any of my GFs at a club, and another guy hits on them, I use the same tactics on AMOGS to stop them.
When you cut him out of the circle, he'll either leave (too deflated), or he'll try to grab your shoulder and say something like "don't turn your back on me". From there, the girls think he's creepy, so you say "hey guys, this dude is creepy.. are you friends with this guy?? did YOU bring this guy here?" The girls will say "no no no, we don't know him", and you say "OK, let's get out of here", and put out your arms for them to grab.
Then walk away with the girls on your arms, and if you want (I do this alot) turn around and have them both kiss you on the cheek and wave the AMOG goodbye.
Also, you can USE the AMOG's WORK for yourself. Like he lines 'em up, you knock 'em down.
This is something I do alot. I let a guy pick a girl up and increase her buying temperature, then I go in and outalpha him, say he's creepy to the girls, and then remove them from him.
The girls are already aroused, so they are still in state based on what the AMOG did. I can do this like maybe on 90% of sets I approach where a natural AMOG has gotten far with a girl. I think a dude I know "Stephane" recently posted about this on Cliff's List regarding a sarge we did.
Basically, I just make the friends of the girl who is getting gamed on by the AMOG like me. Like, they want me, but they know they're not qualified but their friend is.
Then I say "Hey I want to meet your friend so much, but that touchy grabby lean in guy is all over her.. is she just being nice, or does she really like guys who lean in and touch and do all the 'whats your name' fake ungenuine stuff?"
The UGs are invariably like "no no, we hate guys like that.. that's why we love you so much blah blah", and then you get the FRIENDS to literally REMOVE the hottie that you want from the AMOG who is conveniently heating her up for you and saving you the hassle.
Most of the time, the AMOG feels immediately beta after such a line!
Hey AMOG, what's up? Are u ill today? You look sick!
Hey AMOG, you look/talk/act strange, do you take drugs?
Hey AMOG, your clothes are really strange!
Hey AMOG, i talked to some people here...
They don't like you, because you seem strange!
Hey you seem tired!
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