THE FORUMS
This should be sticky'd as a newbie:must read! This ultra-important and I have them all typed into the notepad on my phone, and review them a few times a day (Gone over it about three hundred times now) Not to memorize them but to NOTICE them in other people to see where they're messing up or what they're doing right. Nine times out of ten it's something on this list, in my experience.
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haha, seriously though, two thumbs up!
haha, seriously though, two thumbs up!
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Agreed, this IS essential reading for any newbie.
What i have to work on;
2) TALKING TOO FAST
4) SAYING "RIGHT" OR "YOU KNOW" AFTER STATEMENTS I say right alot
6) TALKING TOO SOFTLY major sticking point - been working on this for what seems forever. I loud clubs i talk in a high pitched voice to cut through everything, but i guess it make me sound beta
7) MOVING YOUR HANDS AROUND WHILE YOU TALKdo it very fast as well - must be the italian in me
16) TOO EAGER TO PAY ATTENTION - SAYING "what?" IF YOU CAN'T HEAR HER, PRIOR TO BEING IN RAPPORT So from now on, just change threads instead of saying 'what'
17) REPLYING WITH OVERLY THOUGHT-OUT OF LOGICAL ANSWERS OR WITH OVERLY CLEAR/FORMAL PRONUNCIATION I am one of those intense deep thinkers. I 'll stop with this.
22) GOING BACKWARDS IN THE PICKUP ON HER SCHEDULERubbish at rapport, so when a girl ballbusts i break her balls. Bad move. From now on i will justwithdraw myself slightly
23) WAITING FOR HER IF SHE LEAVES FOR ANY REASON (LIKE SAYS "I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM, WAIT HERE)I'm never in set. Bad. ALways be in set, regardless of situation? Like if it was a day 2?
24) OVERLY REMEMBERING DETAILS ABOUT PAST CONVOS I'm like a elephant
25) OFFERING TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF TOO EARLY = too eager to make them like you.. subcategories of this are:
A) VerballyYep
B) EntertainingYep
D) Talking without feedbackDo this somewhat, but will let her go if she wont contribute. so doesnt the 90 10 rule apply?
2) TALKING TOO FAST
4) SAYING "RIGHT" OR "YOU KNOW" AFTER STATEMENTS I say right alot
6) TALKING TOO SOFTLY major sticking point - been working on this for what seems forever. I loud clubs i talk in a high pitched voice to cut through everything, but i guess it make me sound beta
7) MOVING YOUR HANDS AROUND WHILE YOU TALKdo it very fast as well - must be the italian in me
16) TOO EAGER TO PAY ATTENTION - SAYING "what?" IF YOU CAN'T HEAR HER, PRIOR TO BEING IN RAPPORT So from now on, just change threads instead of saying 'what'
17) REPLYING WITH OVERLY THOUGHT-OUT OF LOGICAL ANSWERS OR WITH OVERLY CLEAR/FORMAL PRONUNCIATION I am one of those intense deep thinkers. I 'll stop with this.
22) GOING BACKWARDS IN THE PICKUP ON HER SCHEDULERubbish at rapport, so when a girl ballbusts i break her balls. Bad move. From now on i will justwithdraw myself slightly
23) WAITING FOR HER IF SHE LEAVES FOR ANY REASON (LIKE SAYS "I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM, WAIT HERE)I'm never in set. Bad. ALways be in set, regardless of situation? Like if it was a day 2?
24) OVERLY REMEMBERING DETAILS ABOUT PAST CONVOS I'm like a elephant
25) OFFERING TOO MUCH ABOUT YOURSELF TOO EARLY = too eager to make them like you.. subcategories of this are:
A) VerballyYep
B) EntertainingYep
D) Talking without feedbackDo this somewhat, but will let her go if she wont contribute. so doesnt the 90 10 rule apply?
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"25)C) Seeking rapport with someone who didnt earn it."
GREAT POINT! But I dont get what's wrong with confidently going up to a chick and saying, "Hi! My name's T...what's your name?"
Sure it means she cant give you the "What's your name IOI" but there are plenty of others she can give you.
Also, asking her name shows no bs and is just friendly. Ozzie told me on bc that "Hot girls like simple openers"...
GREAT POINT! But I dont get what's wrong with confidently going up to a chick and saying, "Hi! My name's T...what's your name?"
Sure it means she cant give you the "What's your name IOI" but there are plenty of others she can give you.
Also, asking her name shows no bs and is just friendly. Ozzie told me on bc that "Hot girls like simple openers"...
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This should be a compulsary read before you sign up! Along with 10 Alpha qualities
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Tyler is a genius.
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Taught a few hundred guys by now just from meeting guys through PAIR and in workshops recently, and this is the stuff that ups their game instantly with no tactics or anything. I see this s t ALL THE TIME. It's the BIGGEST and most COMMON problem I see after everyone I've met. This is some of the main stuff I focus on fixing when I'm in the field.
Almost EVERYONE I met so far screws up this s , and it totally f ks up their sarges.
If you do this, don't feel bad. 99% of guys I meet do it to various extents (myself included).
This is the extension of the "10 alpha qualities" post, which was when I was first figuring out what this sh1t meant. Back then, I was just posting observations. This post contains conclusions, having now thought about it.
ERADICATE this s , and your game will go up B-I-G-T-I-M-E, more than ANY tactics will help you. This is part of what's called being a "natural". Even with nothing else, if you know this stuff you'll do well socially, and probably get laid. This stuff is the KEY.
This stuff is only for people who play the REAL game, not the INTERNET ARMCHAIR GAME. So guys who don't actually PLAY can skip this, because there's not much theory in it - its directly applicable.
1) FIDGETY MOVEMENTS AND TIGHT SHOULDERS AND TAKING YOURSELF TOO SERIOUSLY OR BEING TOO BUSINESSLIKE OR "SOPHISTICATED" (not laughing or being relaxed) = very visible subconsious (or conscious) self-doubt, overcompensating through non-relaxed state, where you're prepared to deal with anything that could happen. Ever met someone who doesn't blink when you talk to them?
2) TALKING TOO FAST = worried that people will stop listening to you unless you get out something that will interest them before they leave
3) LAUGHING AT YOUR OWN JOKES = covering up that you aren't affected that others didn't laugh, and social nervousness
4) SAYING "RIGHT" OR "YOU KNOW" AFTER STATEMENTS = seeking validation that what you said was true, or saying it because others aren't
5) STANDING WITH LEGS NOT HALF A METER APART AT LEAST = worried that you'll infringe on other people's personal space
6) TALKING TOO SOFTLY OR LOUD = fear that you'll impose yourself on people and their personal space(ie: beta).. alpha males aren't afraid to project their voice.. YET, talking obviously too LOUD can also be seen as OVERCOMPENSATING. Just like guys who wear GENERIC clothes are trying to fit in, or guys who wear OUTRAGEOUS clothes are trying too hard to overcompensate. (hint: be careful with peacocking, find a style that doesn't come off this way, which can be tricky but is still very doable).. Some guys don't talk, some talk too much, etc etc.. Find appropriate balance through trial and error, which is determined through social observation,
7) MOVING YOUR HANDS AROUND WHILE YOU TALK = trying to keep the attention of the group (sometimes can be cool, but most often a form of qualifying yourself)
8) LEANING IN or 'PECKING' = too eager to talk.. NEVER lean in no matter how loud the environment is MAKE HER LEAN IN or just leave but NEVER lean in or "peck" as its also called.
9) FACING BODY/FEET TOWARDS HER BEFORE SHE EARNED IT = trying to gain rapport with her too eagerly.
10) CHASING WHEN SHE WALKS AWAY = hoping she'll listen. If a chick moves away from you, move your bodylanguage MORE away from her, so she'll be drawn back.. don't CHASE her... WTF?!@?!?
11) NOT WITHDRAWING (backturns, etc) WHEN SHE DOES SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULDN'T TOLERATE FROM AN UGLY GIRL OR A GUY = trying too hard to pick her up
12) ANSWERING QUESTIONS TOO QUICKLY/EARLY = too much interest in the conversation
13) TURNING YOUR HEAD (OR "SNAPPING") WHEN YOU'RE ADDRESSED = too eager to be in convo.. so if your head is facing the other direction, and a girl says something to you, turn it SLOWLY to her, don't snap it out of eagerness to hear her