THE FORUMS
Back From The Grave (Pics inside)
DAY 1 - FIELD REPORT
So I went out with 2 guys, both of them left after ~ 1 hour. Until that point in time I haven´t talked to anyone except the doorman and a few people I bumped into on the dancefloor. When they left I decided to stay and get back to work. Walked around for a bit until I finally dug up my skills/mindset and managed to make the night memorable.
In the end I pulled a spanish girl (no sex though) which I will day2 asap. Aside from that I had an amazing night and stayed until club close which is kinda bad since I had to get up for work today at 10. Anyway some thoguhts / stories from the night:
As always I was a completely different person when you´re in/out of state. Funny I needed to remind myself that I have to stick to the process and love just taking action in order to hit the sweet spot. Opening/Interactions started off slow and I felt like a reaction seeking creep in the beginning which changed pretty fast since I´ve got lots of reference experiences.
First solid set was a Brunette in the outside area. I don´t remember the open but I think there was eye contact and I kinda slipped into the set. That was at a time when I didn´t really feel it yet, still it went well, I had fun and she enjoyed it. Even though she wasn´t perfect I thought she was kinda sexy which is always good for me to get state. Sometimes I have difficulties to self amuse when the girl is just neither hot nor interesting, but hey =). So we chat a bit and we keep stuck in the outside area for some time. Should´ve moved her around but didnt. Another guy came in, drunk, not a threat. I have a pretty good feeling for this by now but sometimes I´m wrong. This time I wasn´t. Since I want to take more action and she´s still there for a bit I decide to leave them alone and talk to more chicks inside.
On the dancefloor I see hot spanish chick with a group of friends, male and female. As soon as she walks out of the group to get water/whatever I jump in, pull her around and go in hard. She stops and it´s on. We dance, chat, guys come in, I ignore them, it´s all good. Escalation, Flirting, I´m feeling quite good. Little bit reaction seeking but that´s ok. Funny to observe that you don´t have to be perfect in order to get her attracted and make her stay, just do what you want and calibrate to her emotions. Again I´m not leading enough, have to get that down. As soon as she walks to her friends I´m in the next set flirting. This happens a few times even when I see brunette from before walking by. I start merging sets, introducing girls as my girlfriend to eachother and simply enjoying it. In all that high energy fun I definetly should have grounded myself more and should have gone through the motions, that means Isolation/Escalation/Pulling. Instead I was a bit too dependant on luck. It´s a bit of a challenge since I risk to lose the validation but nevertheless I should´ve done it.
So late at night I end up with this chick, her female friend and random drunk dude outside. I decide to go to the girls place with them but the guy´s too drunk to seal the deal with his girl and it´s 2 girls and me. I fail to push hard enough to get into her room when we´re at their place so I go home alone. We´re already texting again and I try to set up a day 2 saturday/sunday.
Lessons learned:
- First night of pulling completely alone
- It´s all good, girls like me. They´re easy to talk to and easy going.
- Dominance is key. Leading, escalating, pulling while maintaining non-neediness
- Focus on fun
- Just stick in there and be positive.
- Mixed sets are thrilling, do it more.
So I went out with 2 guys, both of them left after ~ 1 hour. Until that point in time I haven´t talked to anyone except the doorman and a few people I bumped into on the dancefloor. When they left I decided to stay and get back to work. Walked around for a bit until I finally dug up my skills/mindset and managed to make the night memorable.
In the end I pulled a spanish girl (no sex though) which I will day2 asap. Aside from that I had an amazing night and stayed until club close which is kinda bad since I had to get up for work today at 10. Anyway some thoguhts / stories from the night:
As always I was a completely different person when you´re in/out of state. Funny I needed to remind myself that I have to stick to the process and love just taking action in order to hit the sweet spot. Opening/Interactions started off slow and I felt like a reaction seeking creep in the beginning which changed pretty fast since I´ve got lots of reference experiences.
First solid set was a Brunette in the outside area. I don´t remember the open but I think there was eye contact and I kinda slipped into the set. That was at a time when I didn´t really feel it yet, still it went well, I had fun and she enjoyed it. Even though she wasn´t perfect I thought she was kinda sexy which is always good for me to get state. Sometimes I have difficulties to self amuse when the girl is just neither hot nor interesting, but hey =). So we chat a bit and we keep stuck in the outside area for some time. Should´ve moved her around but didnt. Another guy came in, drunk, not a threat. I have a pretty good feeling for this by now but sometimes I´m wrong. This time I wasn´t. Since I want to take more action and she´s still there for a bit I decide to leave them alone and talk to more chicks inside.
On the dancefloor I see hot spanish chick with a group of friends, male and female. As soon as she walks out of the group to get water/whatever I jump in, pull her around and go in hard. She stops and it´s on. We dance, chat, guys come in, I ignore them, it´s all good. Escalation, Flirting, I´m feeling quite good. Little bit reaction seeking but that´s ok. Funny to observe that you don´t have to be perfect in order to get her attracted and make her stay, just do what you want and calibrate to her emotions. Again I´m not leading enough, have to get that down. As soon as she walks to her friends I´m in the next set flirting. This happens a few times even when I see brunette from before walking by. I start merging sets, introducing girls as my girlfriend to eachother and simply enjoying it. In all that high energy fun I definetly should have grounded myself more and should have gone through the motions, that means Isolation/Escalation/Pulling. Instead I was a bit too dependant on luck. It´s a bit of a challenge since I risk to lose the validation but nevertheless I should´ve done it.
So late at night I end up with this chick, her female friend and random drunk dude outside. I decide to go to the girls place with them but the guy´s too drunk to seal the deal with his girl and it´s 2 girls and me. I fail to push hard enough to get into her room when we´re at their place so I go home alone. We´re already texting again and I try to set up a day 2 saturday/sunday.
Lessons learned:
- First night of pulling completely alone
- It´s all good, girls like me. They´re easy to talk to and easy going.
- Dominance is key. Leading, escalating, pulling while maintaining non-neediness
- Focus on fun
- Just stick in there and be positive.
- Mixed sets are thrilling, do it more.
Fuck, deleted my whole post accidentally... Well here´s the summary of it:
- Execute and stick to your plan
- Fuck validation, validate yourself through actions
- Push for numbers, push for moving her, push for extraction, push for everything and enjoy
- Offer value in everything I do. It´s something I enjoy more than anything
- No excuses, hit it hard for the first hour.
Girl I lost because I let her validate me and walk away instead of risking to lose her:
Peace
- Execute and stick to your plan
- Fuck validation, validate yourself through actions
- Push for numbers, push for moving her, push for extraction, push for everything and enjoy
- Offer value in everything I do. It´s something I enjoy more than anything
- No excuses, hit it hard for the first hour.
Girl I lost because I let her validate me and walk away instead of risking to lose her:
Peace
DAY 3 / 4 - FIELD REPORT
So I´m still trying to day2 girl from a few days ago, seems she´s interested but needs to have me work out literally everything in order to get the meetup...maybe I´ll see her tonight.
Last 2 nights were fun, one of them was at least partially alone. I´m still struggling with taking action right when I enter the club, somehow still feels unnatural for me.
So Day 3 was slowest night ever, probably 20 people in the club, monday night...DEAD. Anyway me and friend in the club, just dancing shooting the shit since I literally see no point in taking massive action with 20 people in there. Nevertheless I open 2 seated girls which at first give me weird looks etc., but I manage to push through. Interesting point with that is I wasn´t in the zone when I opened them but slowly got into it during the convo. Girls literally forget the first part of the convo and how mutch you sucked, you can always turn it around. Huge realization for me. Stick in there, as soon as you remember you´re cool, they´ll see it.
Day 4 was massively packed club, student´s night. I chode the first 20 minutes on my own, sometimes it helps me to relax. I nevertheless should drop that habit and take massive action instead since I tend to get in the zone after 1 or 2 convos anyway. So I open a medium attractive girl, maybe slightly below my standards. She´s young, like 19-20. She´s shy. It´s almost too easy, I´m going through the motions textbook style while enjoying myself more and more. We makeout, dance etc. I drop her and go for other chicks but nothing really hooks. Except a seated mixed set where I didn´t have the balls to commit 100% to my initial intent which had her attracted. I back off cause I don´t wanna be a dick to the guy (she´s just met him) lol. Baaaad. Always assume it´s all good but then figure out how they know each other.
So yeah that was it. No pulling/extraction stories since I simply didn´t take enough action and didn´t push hard enough in the sets that went well. One thing I need to get down is to pull and go through the motions anyway with LOTS of girls, even if I don´t neccessarily like them that much...
So I´m still trying to day2 girl from a few days ago, seems she´s interested but needs to have me work out literally everything in order to get the meetup...maybe I´ll see her tonight.
Last 2 nights were fun, one of them was at least partially alone. I´m still struggling with taking action right when I enter the club, somehow still feels unnatural for me.
So Day 3 was slowest night ever, probably 20 people in the club, monday night...DEAD. Anyway me and friend in the club, just dancing shooting the shit since I literally see no point in taking massive action with 20 people in there. Nevertheless I open 2 seated girls which at first give me weird looks etc., but I manage to push through. Interesting point with that is I wasn´t in the zone when I opened them but slowly got into it during the convo. Girls literally forget the first part of the convo and how mutch you sucked, you can always turn it around. Huge realization for me. Stick in there, as soon as you remember you´re cool, they´ll see it.
Day 4 was massively packed club, student´s night. I chode the first 20 minutes on my own, sometimes it helps me to relax. I nevertheless should drop that habit and take massive action instead since I tend to get in the zone after 1 or 2 convos anyway. So I open a medium attractive girl, maybe slightly below my standards. She´s young, like 19-20. She´s shy. It´s almost too easy, I´m going through the motions textbook style while enjoying myself more and more. We makeout, dance etc. I drop her and go for other chicks but nothing really hooks. Except a seated mixed set where I didn´t have the balls to commit 100% to my initial intent which had her attracted. I back off cause I don´t wanna be a dick to the guy (she´s just met him) lol. Baaaad. Always assume it´s all good but then figure out how they know each other.
So yeah that was it. No pulling/extraction stories since I simply didn´t take enough action and didn´t push hard enough in the sets that went well. One thing I need to get down is to pull and go through the motions anyway with LOTS of girls, even if I don´t neccessarily like them that much...
FIELD REPORT - DAY 5
2 venues - fun night.
Main thing I realized today is persistence. Just stick in there, be fun, enjoy and show her a good time. It´s what I´m in the game for, being in the moment and just creating something out of nothing. I´ve had some interactions today where I pulled back after a strong and sexual open, which cost me the set. It´s not as bad as before cause I´m focusing on it, but I´m still doing things with one foot on the brake. Letting the intent flow through me and just expressing myself is the main goal here.
I almost pulled a friend of mine who I haven´t seen for like months, she was drunk and wanted to come home with me but wasn´t ready to go when I wanted so I just left. We had sex a year ago and it was ok so I gave it a shot, wasn´t worth too much afterall.
Aside from that I met a couple damn cute chicks. I notice that I tend to get more shit tests now since I go in strong and the girl wants to see if I mean it, even by insulting me and telling me to go away (when at the same time holding my hand, maintaining sexual eye contact etc.) It fucks with my state of mind / reality but I like the challenge. I just need to let it flow more and be fully congruent, act according to my feelings 100%.
Quick Update:
My wing and I now commit to pushing eachother to the max. Let´s see where it goes...
2 venues - fun night.
Main thing I realized today is persistence. Just stick in there, be fun, enjoy and show her a good time. It´s what I´m in the game for, being in the moment and just creating something out of nothing. I´ve had some interactions today where I pulled back after a strong and sexual open, which cost me the set. It´s not as bad as before cause I´m focusing on it, but I´m still doing things with one foot on the brake. Letting the intent flow through me and just expressing myself is the main goal here.
I almost pulled a friend of mine who I haven´t seen for like months, she was drunk and wanted to come home with me but wasn´t ready to go when I wanted so I just left. We had sex a year ago and it was ok so I gave it a shot, wasn´t worth too much afterall.
Aside from that I met a couple damn cute chicks. I notice that I tend to get more shit tests now since I go in strong and the girl wants to see if I mean it, even by insulting me and telling me to go away (when at the same time holding my hand, maintaining sexual eye contact etc.) It fucks with my state of mind / reality but I like the challenge. I just need to let it flow more and be fully congruent, act according to my feelings 100%.
Quick Update:
My wing and I now commit to pushing eachother to the max. Let´s see where it goes...
FR will follow, just some notes on the night before I go to bed: - Don´t look for cues/ioi´s etc. Relying on self amusement and positivity throughout the night/interaction is key. Doesn´t mean you should be oblivious to the girls feelings, but most important thing is to trust in your faculties and understanding of social dynamics.- You are enough. Had a few ref experiences today that reinforced it. No bullshit front, no tactics, just pure authenticity.- I can still do more.- Lead from the beginning. Always. This sets the right tone for the pull later- Don´t deny your sexual desires. If you feel it, let it shine through. Congruence- Dont overestimate yourself. Talk and give her the chance to experience you. This is sooo important.- Don´t go back. When you´re in set, intensity is high, escalation is high, don´t go back to friendly/casual. Move it forward.- Pick up is messy. It´s never smooth. Expect things to be messy, difficult and hard. Some pics as well, actually quite a few. See yall tomorrow
Another night out which wasn´t that long, wing had to go home and I couldn´t bring up the willpower to stay there alone... Actually just some quick notes on what I learned: - It doesn´t matter how much you suck when you go in, she´ll forget it when you hit the zone later in the interaction.- Sticking in set gives her a chance to get to know you. Alwyays stay in set.- Have fun in the moment but at the same time move it forward
Nice! Still pimpin? Which clubs do u go out in Munich?
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