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October 25th, 2014
What is the point of social conditioning?
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Amazing1985

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There seems to be a long lasting belief that in order to get girls a guy should be a body builder and/or have a good job and make good money. I still find this to be true as I see hot girls with these types of guys at the clubs. But where do these beliefs come from?  Why do you think some girls expect guys to buy them drinks?
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Brainz

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watch the blueprint
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i feel pitty for drunk chodes. dont be one

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 It simplifies things, it "narrows the complexity of existence" to help people function day to day without burning out their willpower. 
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mikef243

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Well, since most guys are chodes it would make sense that most guys attract women based on their looks, since it's the only thing the girls have to judge them by. But beyond that guys who are better-looking and/or rich feel more entitled to women, so they probably have better personalities as well.
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Amazing1985

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Brainz, I really do not think you understood the question. I am guessing that English was not your first language?

Should videos of people breathing be made unobtainable to people who are, let's say 15 years old? Why then should pornographic videos be made available only to those who are 18 years old and up? After all, they are both as natural as each other.

What about the idea that a man should spend 3 months salary on his wife's diamond ring? Or that a girl should not have sex with a dude until after the third date? 

Season 2, Episode 3 of Penn & Teller: Bullshit! May illustrate my point in further detail when they interview an author of a book called, The Rules: Time-tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr. Right or as Penn called it, How to Sucker a Sap Into a Manipulative Relationship.

Society in general and peer groups within society set the norms which shape the behavior of people within the social system. Therefor people can be psychollogically trained to think and behave in a certain way. Governments for example do all kinds of crazy shit in order to get people to support them with controversial decisions, such as going to war with another country.
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Amazing1985

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Heh. I guess so. I just thought some poeple on here would be more informed than me. So much for that idea lol. The thing is, women are under the spell of social conditioning as well. And that's just how governments want us. Stupid.
neuroplastic10k wrote:

Amazing1985 wrote:


Society in general and peer groups within society set the norms which shape the behavior of people within the social system. Therefor people can be psychollogically trained to think and behave in a certain way. Governments for example do all kinds of crazy shit in order to get people to support them with controversial decisions, such as going to war with another country.

You just answered your own question. smile
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Those things you stated, are as you said, simply beliefs. You don't NEED any of that, but it usually makes it better. A guy with great game will not really need those, but they always help. I'm sure you already know that, though. I personally work out a lot and work toward becoming successful not for women, but for myself. I like being fit and healthy as I find it makes me feel better. I want to become successful because I want to leave my mark in this world and be able to do things I wouldn't have been able to do otherwise. I want my family to have a good life as well.

As for where those beliefs come from?  I guess popular media has a lot to do with it.
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Eddie Morra

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Some social conditioning is healthy and society has to share values in order to be cohesive.

If we don't have an agreed set of standards within and outside of the law, then society would be a horrible place. Honouring a contract, being monogomous within marriage or supporting the mother of your children are examples of social conditioning, which could also be called values. Just because you didn't think of these values yourself doesn't mean they are wrong, for example if you decided that you didn't want to look after your children, you may think you are going against social conditioning, but you are also being a massively selfish dick.

Other parts of social conditioning are more questionable and we can choose to ignore or evaluate more critically, for example, does a college/university education guarantee a good career? Do I have to stay monogomous or can we have a more loose relationship and still be happy? Is diet Coke a health drink for me? Will money and the things money can buy make me happy?

Our job is to see the world through our own eyes and to choose the beliefs that we think are right and those which have been created to serve other interests. Coca Cola benefit from me thinking that Diet Coke is good for me so maybe what they say should be scrutinised. Likewise drugs are illegal for a reason, because they have harmful effects on the user. I can question this and decide if the upside outweighs the downside but I shouldn't just decided to do them to stick two fingers up to 'the man'. In this case the man is trying to protect me from myself by making me consider very carefully (hopefully) whether I want to do drugs or not.

Don't hate the man for creating society, by in large in the Western world it works pretty well.
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It keeps the hamster wheels spinning.
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SImple dude , its a means to an end.
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS BENIFITING FROM SOCIAL CONDITIONING ????
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progretarian

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 Beta males build our society and civilization. That's the reasoning behind social conditioning.

It's about incetives. Women are walking birth chambers of inherent value no matter what they do. But as a man you have to contribute value in order to be worth anything socially.

So you tell a guy that he has to achieve and gain resources for more than 1 person. As a result he gets access to pussy. That's how the world is built. By men who are driven by hunger for pussy.

The interesting thing is that civilization is a side-effect of the human mind and primal safety nets are much stronger to secure survival.

That's why alpha males usually find they can be out of shape and broke and still fuck a lot, because they convey the right mindset that females find attractive. They call this sexy son theory.
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