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#11

mokas

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Join Date: 03/13/2011 | Posts: 54

  #DAY 7 - Friday, Nightgame (16/08/2013)

No approaches - Had fun though



Promoter friend invited me to go the this club, I go, by myself, find him there, and also another promoter girl I know (HB6), it was a bit empty, had mostly elder people (had some nice Milfs though lol). The music was good and pumping though, so as it was a bit empty, and I just couldn't see myself open the Milfs, I decided to go dance. Also talked a lot with the promoter-girl, she's really nice and fun. 


Pros: - Went out again, had fun and danced.

Cons: - Didn't approach (the main reason I'm going out).

Lessons: -  Everytime I go for the approach-night, and I actually do it, I end up having more fun than ever. It's nice to not think about it, and just go for the music sometimes, but must remember my main focus.
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#12

mokas

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#DAY 8 - Saturday, Nightgame (17/08/2013)

Solo gaming- Yeahhhhhh



I was going out with a friend, but he bailed out, so I either had to go alone, or not go at all. I decided that there's no way I would not go. So, for the first time ever, I went out solo, without having someone I knew on the venue.
Medidated for 30min before leaving the house, did my 20min drive, and I knew that it was key to approach as soon as I arrived there. Failing to approach anyone in the first minutes = game over. So, I approached as soon as I arrived, opened like 3-4 sets indirect way, just to get a feel. Saw some dudes trying to pick up some girls (in a very creepy way) and I got so amused lol, went there to talk to them, they were fun, I also tried, indirectly, to tell them that what they did wasn't an optimal way to approach chicks. Anyway, few mins pass, and now I'm not approaching. What the hell? I'm not getting inside my head at all, but I'm also not approaching. I stop, breathe deeply, and just go approach the first chick I see. Again, I think I was too indirect (it's still early though, about 1h30), it went nicely, she was receptive and cool, I ejected after 5 min though. I thought on how all my approaches thus far had a positive response, and it occured to me that by being indirect all the time, I wasn't creating that big sexual tension, and that's why I did have positive reactions all the time, but they didn't go anywhere, making me eject earlier. I decided I would go direct on the next girl I see (at this time I had already approached like 7/8 sets in 90min). 

I see this cutie, looks like a young Beyonce, on the phone, and I just go for it. "Hey, drop your phone, tell your friend you've just met the man of your life." She laughs, turns off the phone, and I say "Saw you over there, thought you were cute, had to come say hi". She was soo receptive, we talked, laughed etc, for like 5min until her friends came. I talked to all of them, she also has another hot blond friend, I joke with her etc. They are with some foreigner guy they just met, and their gay friend, and it's his birthday. I congratulate him and all, it's all fun and cool vibes. We chat and joke around for 1h, always giving a bit more attention to my "target", though, still considering whether I should go for her or her blond friend. After a while I just tell them to bounce, and we go to some club, chatting, chilling, they even ask for my phone number (both girls) on the way. On the club, we danced had fun, had lots of contact going on with both girls (it was a mistake, should've focused on just one). They invited me to go today, to a free Jazz concert in Lisbon, so I'll go. I didn't k-close any of them, should've gonne for the beyonce (she's also bi, threesome opportunity! lol). Let's see how it goes today, i will try to pull her.
 
Pros: - Went out completely SOLO and had lots of FUN;
- Approached more than 5 sets;
- N-closed 2 hotties and they invited me to a concert today:
- Realized my mistakes during the night, stopped for a moment and got back up;

Cons: - Should've open everyone since the get go, non-stop, while minimizing time between interactions;
- Should've picked a target out of both girls and attackkkkk!

Lessons: - Going out solo is amazing, you don't waste time choding around with your friends, you're there to approach and just go for it;
- It's possible to get back into state just by forcing yourself to have some interactions, gaining some momentum.

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#13

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 #DAY 9 - Sunday, Day+Nightgame (18/08/2013)

Getting better - Work is paying off



So I went to the Jazz concert in Lisbon (invited by the 2 girls and their gay friend that I met on saturday). I arrive there, talked with them, built comfort and connection with the blond girl (funny enough, on saturady I was more into the beyonce-ish girl). I met their other friends, etc it was really nice. I even went walk around talking about "pick-up" with one of them (away from the group), he started asking me some stuff etc, it was funny. When we came back, we sit again and there are some new people in the group. There's this gorgeous tanned green-eye, amazing body girl next to me. So me and that guy keep talking, this time he's interested in relantionship-dynamics, and monogomy and shits like that, and I tell him my views and so on. At one point we got up and went to grab the mascot of the party (someone dressed as a bear or smt), it was amazingly funny.
He went to take a phonecall afterwards, and I sit next to the same girl. This time, I open her, blabla, and not sure how, the chat got really deep and profound. We talked about lots of shits, even the girl's sister was looking at her and laughing (like she's so into me). We even talked about purgatory, spirits, OBEs, traveling and doing communitary work (it's what she does), etc etc. Like 2h chatting, I can see her looking at my lips a lot, I know she wants to kiss me, but it won't happen there near the friends. So when the concert ends, I tell her, let's bounce to eat smt, (the friends will come too, but by car, we go by foot, it's just 15-min walk). But.. the other guy I was talking with early had the nice idea of coming as well. Well no problem, I knew the girl was into me so I just relaxed a bit. We were joking all the way, heavy flirting, and so on.

Resuming: We were all night also together talking and getting physical and lots of stuff, we were about to kiss at one point, but her friends came. In the end of the day, she asked for my number, my facebook, asked about my previous relantionships, what I value in women, and so on. She's soooooooo into me, it's not even funny. Even though we weren't alone, I should've tried to bounce her a bit and kissed her. I was stupid, but I know we'll get a day2 and from there I'll easily advance. When I arrived home, she sent me txts, talked on facebook and so on.

Pros: - Went out SOLO to be with people I met less than 24h ago plus their unknown friends;
- Had deep chat with hottie, it's so ON.
- Felt so relaxed and chilled the whole day (at one point, the 2 girls and 1 guy that I originally met and came to the concert with, left, so I was just with that hottie and her unknown friends, funny).

Cons: - Should've k-closed, damn!

Lessons: - Take more risks, when you know the time is right, go for it;
- Hang out with new ppl, new environments and expose your personality to them.
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#14

mokas

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 #DAY 10 - Monday, Day+Nightgame (19/08/2013)

Must improve my daygame-  can't open to save my life at the mall

Went to the mall near lunch time, there were some girls there, but I couldn't open. What the fuck, what's the problem? I think it's my subconscious mind playing tricks on me, instead of telling me GO GO GO, it's saying DON'T GO, IT'S FUCKING AWKWARD. Come on.
I was angry with myself, so at the night, I was thinking of making up for it. But on a monday night, there's nowhere to go. So I called a friend and said: let's go to the casino. We went, but it was really empty, I opened 2 hotties there - pfff blown out. Got inside my head, and just went to play the roulette with 5 bucks. Won and decided to leave.


Pros: - Went out daygame, and tried again at night, TOOK ACTION;
- Forced myself to open 2 hotties at the casino, even though I was completely out of state.

Cons: - Can't seem to open during daygame yet. 

Lessons: - Will fix this, have to force myself, just go direct approach and clearly state my intentions during the day. I have really good reference experiences from the nightgame, must get some during the day as well.
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#15

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 #DAY 11 - Tuesday, Nightgame (20/08/2013)

Crazy night- Mentally ill girl chasing us all night


So I went with a new friend of mine (he's into pick up as well, funny, this is the RAS working, when you really want something, you'll find things and people with similar values/goals, like a mastermind group, like the universe manifesting itself to help you) and we went to a street with bars and clubs that I haven't been in ages. He is sms'ing a blond girl he saw once, and she told him she'd be there. As soon as I arrive, I open a girl (she's a promoter it seems), asking what's the best club here on the street, talk for a bit, then move. My friend finds a promoter-friend of him, we talk for a bit, basically, the only club rocking on that street this night was something called Space Lisbon. We go there, but you have to pay 10e with 1 drink, girls have free-entrance with 3 drinks, so it's packed with girls. The club seems pretty shitty, another promoter girl comes talking to us, and I start mocking her on her style. We chat for about 20min, then she's gotta go back to her promoterish-work. She was cool. Then, the blond girl my friend was talking with comes out with another girl, both are "ok", but nothing special. They say they're going to Docks Club, I've been there only once, dunno how good it'd be now. We said fine, let's go, I just grab her friend in the air (my friend does the same with his blond girl) and we bounce to the other club.

It's packed with girls, it's gonna be a fun night. We talk a bit with the girls etc, then we say we'll be back soon (we want to get away from them to start approaching). We managed to do it, and I instantly open a hottie. Blabla, get her name, then I say to my friend, "I've found my new wife. We look awesome together, where's is it going to be our honeymoon?" - "But I have a boyfriend" - "He can come took, he'll serve us some nice cocktails.". She laughs and gets into the frame. I get physical a lot, talk a lot, she's laughing, then she says she has to go to her friends, I took my phone out and say put your nr here. She says she was robbed the other day and had to get a new number, and the phone is back at her friends. Right lol. She says, add me on facebook. We search her profile with my phone, and she has a profile picture with her chode bf. She says "Look, he's my bf!". Funny, I added her and then she left. Not bad for the first approach in the club. 1min later I spot a really hot girl and go instantly direct-opener. She's baffled and looks surprised. I say to my friend: NOW I really found my new wife. I get phyisical, suddenly, the blond girl comes and says grabs my arm and starts talking to me, saying the other girl is a and she's all over guys all night, it was like this last tuesday etc blabla. Due to her, it blows off and "my future wife" leaves. We talk for a bit and so on, I tell her I was joking around and she shouldn't have done that, she says she saved me from aids blabla. The rest of the night was basically me and my friend running away from that girl (The club was rather small, she could find us easily) and opening some girls just to get interrupted by that other girl, pissed off. WTF. Later in the night, I talk with another of her friends, really pretty one, but she looks really young and she's kind drunk. So I don't escalate nor do anything sexually, though she is into me.

In the end we go back (my friend and that blond girl live kinda close to me), so us 3 come to my house. My friend was like "let's do a threesome", but I wasn't so keen on doing it. Girl was drunk, had been smoking shit, and she was just straight out crazy, non-classy wtf, she went to my bed drinking beer etc, unbelievable I had to kick her out. We drove her home while mocking her so hard, it was funny.



Pros: - Opened some hotties without AA;
- Managed to create, control and lead the frame.

Cons: - Should've told the blond girl to fuck off and leave us alone so we could approach more;
-Felt like I used the blond-girl as an excuse not to open more.

Lessons: - Don't hang out with absolutely insane girls;
- Feeling way better and more relaxed in a club, it starts to feel natural to approach;
- Learning how to create momentum easily.

I know where I'll be going every tuesday night now ahah.
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#16

mokas

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  #DAY 12 - Thursday, Nightgame (22/08/2013)
(On tuesday, I basically didn't sleep, so I was really tired and skipped wednesday to rest and get some reading up to date)

New friends, no anxiety, girls and fun [/u]- It's all starting to come together. 

(love this classic)

Went out to the club with my 'new' pick-up friend, we get all pumped in the car, oh yeah. As soon as we arrive in the club, a guy comes talking to us, he's relaxed and cool, and we get along really good. We talk a lot while we're waiting for the club to get going, I tell him my views and shits on social dynamics, girls, and so on. Little background on our lives and shits, and we got ourselves a new cool friend. He was hanging out alone (shows a lot of balls to me, I respect him, while I believe most society would criticize him for going out alone, NO FRIENDS?!?!?!?!?!?). We get into the club, I open 2 girls. One looks hot, but I found out.. she's 14. What the hell? damn those tight dresses, viewed from behind can trick you. Funny enough, the other woman is 30-years-old and she's the aunt. Lol, we talk for 10min, fun light interaction, the girl was really nervous I could tell. As soon as that ends, I move into another set, open 2 girls, one of them is beautiful, her friend tries to cock-block me, but I push through. Get into a chat with her, and shes lovin' it, but I can't seem to bounce, her friend is trying to torn us apart. I start talking with the friend and being fun, she's clearly the leader there. I find out one is brazilian, the other french/brazilian. I said to the french beautiful girl that we're going to marry and shits, it's rly on, but her friend just fucks me over. We bounce, and we open few other sets.

One of them is instantly in love with me, I grab her, she gives me the look, smiles, and her friend tries to steal her from me (what was going on with all these cockblocks!) I say no, and go and grab her again, and her friend STEALS HER AGAIN. I'm pissed, the girl was mine and lost her. I should've pushed harder. We open more sets (the club wasn't that full, I think we opened all the hot girls in there), one was hard but we kept going and pushing and going, and started to get good, though at times, the girls seemed like they wanted us to leave. It was a bit confusing, we had massive fun though, cracking jokes and all, so self-amusing. She was really tiny, so I was saying she's my little sister, and messing up her hair. At some points she was complacent, others she was like "don't touch me urghhh, hate it!". After 30min talking and joking, they said they're going to the bathroom and asked us if we would stay there, which I said no, we'll probably not be in this area. I took my phone out, passed to her, she put her number, and said to sent her a txt. Then off they went, and we went to talk a bit and open other sets. Later we found that set again, reopened it and they didn't seem to enjoy (don't know why), so after tryig to push it for a bit, we left.

Afterwards I opened another one, and it was weird:

It's like 4am, we're moving and a girl blocks my way, which made me open: - Hey, you're blocking the transit here! I'm XX, What's your name?
She:
- Don't have.
I: - That's a cool name, don't have, were your parents inspired?
Then a guy comes near us, and I say: Hey man, what's up? I'm XX. Your sister here was being rough to me. I think her parents didnt beat her enough as a kid. (playful way)
Guy: - My name is Your sister.
I: - You guys have really weird names.
Guy: - Get the fuck out of here.

I don't speak don't move, just make eye contact.

I: - Cool story bro.
Girl: - Get the fuck out of here.
I don't react, but say: -You guys really had a crazy upbringing right? No self-love!
Guy gets in my face and says: Get the fuck out of here right now.
I don't even flinch, but say: - You guys really lack some respect, nobody told you how to behave, did you have any education??
Guy says smt like: -Get out of here now, I'm telling you.. blablabla. (Then the guy goes a bit to the back with the girl)
I just kept standing on the same place, non-reactive, non moving, my friend was near me calling to just go, and I started talking to him like: - Did you see this shit? lol, how unconscious are they, blabla.
Guy comes again: -He talks blabla, but I'm talking to my friend, I don't even hear anything or acknowledge he's there. Then he goes back again to the girl or whatever, and I just bounce with my friend. 

Wtf just happened here?

Anyway, in the end, we had a nice night, I also talked with a girl from Porto, she was smoking and she was really into it, we were feeling the chemistry lol, until all her friends came to leave and.. stupidly, I forgot to pick her number. I also could've pulled 2 girls if I had handled their cock-blocking friend right I guess, specially because one of them was making out with some random chode at the end of the night (her cock-blocking friend wasn't near her, that's why).


Pros: - Opened everything, no AA;
- Held my frame, no reactions, projected the voice well;
- Had massive fun, self-amusement was high.
- Got a new cool friend.

Cons: - Push harder, deal with the cockblocks better;
- Relax more on some sets, I feel like I was really pumped up sometimes, mby too high enery.

Lessons: Learn how to handle their cockblocking friends better!
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#17

mokas

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 #DAY 13 - Friday, Nightgame (23/08/2013)

Going smooth- This girl is mine

Was going out to a known street around here with lots of bars with some friends, and decided to invite the girl from Sunday (alone or with her friends), whom I had a really good interaction and chemistry with. Talked with her a bit over the week, but nothing much.
At first, she offered resistance (I'm really tired, been working whole day blabla), to which I basically answered in a way that showed I had no problem to walk away. Obviously she decided to come, we hung out, separated from our friends, had 1 or 2 drinks, made out etc all night.

She said she had never tried pancakes (I don't remember why this came up), to which I said I make the best pancakes ever, she should come to try. She was receptive to come, even said yes, but as we talked a bit more and went back to the friends, etc, she got so sleepy and tired, and maybe, being retarded, I suggested she came to my place for pancakes on Sunday instead. She instantly agreed, and I let her go back home with the friends.

Pros: - Closed a girl from a previous day;

Cons: - Didn't F-close her that night;

Lessons: - Maybe should've tried to get her home with me earlier, anyway it seems like after 2 weeks, this stuff is starting to pay off and I'll get my first girl in rotation (lol).
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#18

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  #DAY 14 - Saturday (24/08/2013)

I went to a restaurant for the birthday of a really close friend (she's also going to study abroad), and we stayed there basically from 20h until 2 am. I knew most people there, so it was just a chilling time, to relax and get my energies back, as I wanna f-close the girl on sunday and go out afterwards (unless she sleeps here).

Cons: I knew I wouldn't be able to go "sarging" tonight, so I should've done day game (it didn't occur to me at the time).

Lesson: It's ok to just go out and chill out with your friends after 2 weeks of gaming.
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 #DAY 15 - Sunday (25/08/2013)

Finally, F-CLOSED- HB9




The previous girl from Friday came to my house, I made a vegetarian burger for us, some pancakes, blabla and she ended staying for the night. Basically, we didn't sleep, all night going crazy ahah!
This girl is so into me, I think she's even 'falling deeply' for me.. lol, we'll see, I don't want a GF, even though she's so freaking hot.

I'm really happy I got my first lay after 2 weeks of starting this challenge! Took today (monday) to go to the gym, finish a book and rest mainly, as I felt sooo tried. Tomorrow I'm going out again!
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#20

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 #DAY 16 - Tuesday (27/08/2013)

I was with the girl from sunday in a bar, and then we fucked in my car on a sightseeing place (great view really). Afterwards, when I was coming back home, I started wondering, I'm here to improve my game skillset, I don't want GF, even though it's clearly what she wants (relationship). I wanna keep her, she's smokin', but I definitely do not want a relantionship.
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