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DL and gravitys make her chase you game is 10 times as effective
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#41

chamuyero

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 Brad's "Becoming the gorilla" makes a point on this. I think this style of game is more for good looking guys because you are already showing value by just looking good.. i mean, you don't have to prove anything. The "not so good looking guys" will probably need to show value in other more sexual ways.
If to breaking their reality it comes, i believe this can be achieved in many ways. When tyler and julien go agressive, they are just doing this in a higher level. they dont break it like not giving a fuck, but they do by calling them "dogs" or sth like that.
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Gravity

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#43

joker1

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@Gravity every time someone mentions looks you are laughing or trolling them... 
Not to take anything away from you because you obviously have way better game then most on this forum BUT I am sure you are also good if not very good looking.

This has been debated to death and I think majority agrees that for this style of game you need looks :D

Am I wrong ?
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Gravity

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I look like a 6'2 version of Austin Powers, anyone that has met me can confirm this

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#45
therebellion

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 lmao maybe thats your secret, you got your mojo
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#46
Swanny

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Thanks for the details dude.

Gravity wrote:
yup that's the outside part of it. Basically everything out of her mouth is an attempt by her to try to seduce you. But if you still chase on the inside then saying that is gonna be really incongruent. Instead focus on a few mindsets and just act accordingly.

-do I like her just because she's hot? If she was fat would I even bother spend time with her?
-is she saying/doing shit that I dont like?
-would I be upset if i walked away from this or would it be the other way around?
-if I was jayz would i take that shit from some chick?
-all girls just wanna bang me
-I can do no wrong
-the best way to pass a shit test is not to ignore it or to stay in there and plough, best thing to do is WALK AWAY and continue to have fun, she'll realize she fucked up and will be upset for the rest of the night (seen this happen)
-is it MY oppurtunity? or hers?
-she will never find a guy like me but i will find 1000 girls just like her

etc...

you literally have to begin to see yourself as God's gift to the world. Not in an ego based way but in an "everyone is looking for something I have" type of way.

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SocialLab wrote:
When you approach the frame "NOW IS YOUR CHANCE", you are asserting on her the frame that she is the one chasing in the interaction.
Swanny wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to explain this.

This is what I'm doing then bud. So I guess the next question is what is chasing, so I can avoid it.

Gravity wrote:
I never said I don't approach... Not every girl will approach you, sometimes you just have to give them the oppurtunity aka walk up to them. Approaching doesn't equal chasing.
Swanny wrote:
See the prob is I'm a newb and you ain't. My mindset is entirely different. How are you frame controlling, socialising etc in the club if you're not actively approaching. When I go out I get girls dancing round me cos I'm cool as fuck at having fun, but I still have to tap them on the shoulder or hold a hand out to them or just plain walk into their arms. What are you doing that makes them actively approach you cos most girls will not show direct interest when I'm being awesome.

I love beasting, it's great and does great things for life in general, but I'm interested in what you're doing and I'd love to be able to replicate similar myself even if I don't ultimately commit to the style.


Gravity wrote:
haha wow this topic gets really heavily debated... Literally the last 5 threads on this subject has sparked debates that either resulted in argument until the other person admitted defeat or I just trolled the shit out of them...

As for the argument with newbs, YOU ARE STILL MAKING AN EFFORT TO GO OUT AND MEET PEOPLE. YOU ARE STILL SOCIALIZING. YOU ARE STILL FRAME CONTROLLING. There is literally no difference. You are still learning and gaining social experience. In fact I'd say that this will accelerate newbs because hell GIRLS WILL APPROACH THEM! Just instead of going through blowouts because they're creepy fucking puas and bullshit they'll instead have to frame control the ENTIRE VENUE, they'll also go through bullshit like: girl tried to take me home but I stopped it from happening, wow I fucked up, ok next time do xyz cuz i actually wanted that girl... etc... 

So yeah the newb argument is kind of unfounded...





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#47
hkmt

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Gravity wrote:
Quick answer: no...

I'd say its more like this:
1. Have fun
2. Socialize and give the fun
3. Give her the opportunity to do what she wants to do...

Simple as that, adding more than that is usually a form of overcomplicating it unnecessarily
ALGERIANO wrote:
Question to Dl or gravity

isnt it the same shit with tyler 6 steps ?

TYLERS 6 STEPS:                                                        DL and GRAVITY method
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1. Approach all ---------------------------------------------> Socialize and talk with every body
2. Minimize time between interractions---------------> have fun, sing, dance, laught in between interactions
3. Don't judge yourself ----------------------------------->????????
4. Find something funny in each set -------------------> go out and have a blast, Laught a lot
5. short and sweet early, burn it later -----------------> 1-10 minutes interactions, when you find a girl stay with her/ invite her to your group
6. Go a little bit more on each one ---------------------> Always Esclate (verbal and Physical)


KJ FTW lool



I find Julien's game is the most effective one but highly interested in the "Make her chase you" concept. I have read each and every single post on this thread so as far as I understand you go out purely for having fun and have no primary focus on getting laid. You keep the interactions short (5-10 min) and just socialising with everyone in the venue. Also you know that you are the "Prize". So at this point I have some questions;

1- obviously 5-10 minutes is a very short time period for an interaction. A person can only invest that much within this period. How do you expect a girl to chase you after that short interaction? Dont think anyone can create a chaseable value within 5 - 10 minutes..

2- once you bounce to another social group, your target might be approached by another/pulled by another dude. So what is the point of bouncing to other sets if your set is going well?

3- sometimes me/ the girl has to leave the set for a couple of minutes (going to toilet etc..). Evenif it is going really good, I just loose the girl in the venue. In your game it seems to be the natural pitfall of the game. How do you cope with that?

4- this question is going to be similar to the first one.. There is a huge external stimilus going on in bars/clubs which is very attractive to girls. Friends, drinks, other dudes, music etc... Having considered that you only stay 5 - 10 min with the set, isnt it a bit illogical to expect girls to chase you? IMO forget about coming and chasing you, you should consider yourself lucky if she remembers you at the end of the night after 10 -15 min interaction...

Dont misunderstand I dont try to be controversial. In fact I am highly interested in learning your style in details...
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therebellion wrote:
 lmao maybe thats your secret, you got your mojo
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Gravity

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Hkmt:

1. Short interactions are the key to investment. When you bounce around the venue and she sees that you DO NOT NEED to speak to her because you can just go hook up with 8 - 12 other girls in the venue she begins TRYING to get you as you have become the popular choice in the club. Again I bring fun unlike anyone (including people that are actually on drugs hahahaha) so yeah people want to crowd around me...

2. Based on my experience 9/10 no matter how savvy the guy is it will be a blowout. Besides that once the girls meet me I've heard them RESIST their entire social groups and keep them in there, just because I was within proximity. But let's say it does happen because I won't deny the possibility, who honestly gives a fuck? There are other hot girls in the venue that are literally just waiting for me to do something. I don't give a shit about any one girl because I have enough options.

3. The girls always come back to me. Never experience them just suddenly bounce out of nowhere, and even if they do they come find me later.

4. I am much more stimulating than anything in that venue. This is what happens when you create the fun for other people, ALL THE ATTENTION IS FOCUSED ON YOU. And again who cares? I can just go out the next night and pull... I hardly ever give my number out but because I frequent certain venues people are all starting to recognize me and coming up to me asking "were you at xyz last week? omg! do you  remember me???" 

I see that community conditioning has really hammered into everyone that the more time you spend the better it is. I and every other pua I have ever met have proven this to be wrong. There is no such thing as the "solid" set, you could spend 10 hours with her and there's still a very good chance she won't text you back. It's just the way it goes. I keep my interactions short so I can dance the night away, I really don't give a fuck cuz to me pulling is a matter of time and not so much a matter of skillset.
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Gravity

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OmegaJames wrote:

Gravity wrote:
Hkmt:



I see that community conditioning has really hammered into everyone that the more time you spend the better it is. I and every other pua I have ever met have proven this to be wrong. There is no such thing as the "solid" set, you could spend 10 hours with her and there's still a very good chance she won't text you back. It's just the way it goes. I keep my interactions short so I can dance the night away, I really don't give a fuck cuz to me pulling is a matter of time and not so much a matter of skillset.
Agree, thats why I find alex bullshit about: "the longer time you spend with the girl the more arousal and the better.." to be complete crap and makes me wonder if he ever have really though about the advice he actually gives lol.

Anyway, mind share some examples how you go about creating the fun?
dance, scream, jump, mess up their hair, yell at them, get into an ice throwing fight, smack some bootay, motorboat some boobies, makeout then walk away like nothing happened, etc...
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