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October 22nd, 2017
Summer Growth Journal- Business + Game + Health + Overall Development- Applying the Natural Instincts Method
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#71

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 Sunday Night-



The usual spot is having a prviate party so we head to another club.

Get inside, we decide to try to get to the rooftop but the line to that is moving extremely slow so I stay downstairs.

Approach some older spanish chick and get warmed with her.  

My wing appraoches a group of two, start talking to my girl(spanish and very cute short girl0 who throws some shittests at me but I don't even notice them(something about not believing I was 23).

Spend time with her, and she gets a little evasive.  I was a little thrown off but some part of me knew she was being evasive cause she was getting aroused.  I was spitting verbal gold though, I was very relaxed.  

Reappraoch her later on the dancefloor for a second, walk away and some guy is talking to her.  Didn't see her later.

Talked to varoius other girls throughout the night.  Went to the rooftop later when there wasn't a line and opened some girls.  Talked to some black girl but she had rough hands.  I hate that shit... she was cute and fuckable, those hands turned me off immensily.

Lessons-

1.  When I find a girl who likes me, spend a lot of time with her in different settings and do not be afraid to reappraoch.  The goal is to have the strongest connection, and to be together for the last hour of the night, walk her out, and go for food/afterparty.   11 pm- 1 am is the time to screen and find a girl with good logistics who likes me, and at 1 am I gotta spend time with her and walk her out.  
2.  With hot nightlife girls, stopping them requires unconventional verbal game/ or a hard stop kind of game.  The typical normal approach doesn't get them to stop, or they'll ignore you.  Gotta think about that and work out something that works for me in higher end places.  

Monday Daygame

Woke up to get some dimsum with my buddy.  After eating it(lots of MSG) our brains were fucked.  We went to yonge-dundas for some daygame. 

First set I got blown out.

Second set, I approached with him, and these girls had a lot of fun.  They thought we were drunk/high but we were just messed up from MSG.  We did a good job at the beginning but we weren't decisive enough at the end cause they seemed down to drink but we didn't push hard enough for it.  We should have just bounced to a bar to grab a couple of drinks.  I was also being slightly awkward near the end with my girl and a little weirdish.

Firefx2 then leaves, so I'm on my own.  Third approach, I go indirect with my patented awesome opener but she has a big boyfriend that came out of nowhere so I just left.

Fourth girl, she's standing. I  go in, it goes really well until her friend comes, at which point I kind of am slightly dancing monkeyish.  I think the main lesson from that set was speak slow, strong eye contact, and be relaxed.  And also I need to grab the number before the friend comes.  This was a pretty long interaction, I"m guessing 15-20 minutes.  

Lessons-

-Be normal, and relaxed.
-Speak slowly, strong eye contact.  Don't be an entertainer but make a genuine connection.
-Go for insta-date at aroudn the 5-10 minute point, or get her number at the high point.  
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 Tuesday Daygame-

Go downtown for some biz work.  Meet up with a friend for daygame.

Approach a decent number of girls and do my first cold calls.  

Notable sets-
-Wing my buddy with two girls, talk to them for a while and I find out later my girl has a boyfriend.
-After cold calling, approach some girl coming back from a model shoot, talk to her for a bit and she has a boyfriend...
 
Lot of other approaches that are short and don't hook well.  

Lessons-
Approach more, still need to get over approach anxiety in the day, I could easily do 3X more approaches per hour than I do right now. 
Screen for boyfriend early on in daygame.



Tuesday Nightgame

Get to the venues around 12:45.  I'm a bit uncomfortable tonight, but I work through the motions and approach.  Hook a hot black girl.  She's a nurse and the conversation isn't amazing but I trust the Natural Instincts Method and I spend time in there with physicality and eye contact.  She does'nt seem super receptive but she's standing there quiet and attentive which means its on.  Spend 15-20 min with her, and discover her logistics are complete shit(massive group, they live 50 miles away, all driving back tonight).  She has to go back to her friends and I don't reapproach.  Keep going around approaching more girls, shit doesn't really stick.  

Lessons-
-Some nights I'm going to be uncomfortable.  I need to follow my process, open a lot, eye contact, and get physical with an alright girl.  Usually if my rub my dick on a girl I'll feel a million times more comfortable and my mind will switch on.  Even if I'm uncomfortable I'll find a girl I naturally connect with.
-Screen for logistics relatively early on.  
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 Wednesday Nightgame-

Hit up the hipster bar.  Go in and focus on getting relaxed.  The music sucks tonight so I have to focus on my process.

Hit up a lot of approaches, and I had two good ones-

1.  Cute brunnete with her friends.  Spend some time chatting to her and getting physical and she says she has to find her friends in the bathroom as they are leaving early(it was 12:30ISh).  I know I had to reapproach, but I hesitated and rationalized("let me wait a few more minutes before reapproaching).  Still try to keep an eye on the door to walk her out but look away for a minute and she's gone.  

2.  Another brunnete, hot and young looking like 18 or 19(I get a boner thinking about her, she had the sexy look in her eyes).  She's immediatly very receptive and I pull her and get physical.  Chat to her.  Go with my wing and her to the dancefloor and start slowly building up the tension for the makeout.  Just about as I'm about to makeout my wing shoves his girls face into his naked chest for self amusement and my girl gets distracted lol.  I leave for a second, and reapproach her a couple of times for quick periods of time.  However, I leave again and she has disappeared from the venue.

The main thing I learned on Wed night was that you have to stick on the girls.  I didn't spend enough time with those girls.  The second one especially, I should have stuck on her and its retarded of me to not do that.  Girls always leave early from this place to get food or go home and I've repeatedly lost girls because I don't stick with them.  I need to walk them otu of the door and try to pull.

I had a somewhat dominant vibe and I was using a lot of Julien style short statements with breaking rapport.  A mix of aggression, relaxation, and a fun vibe seems to work very well in this venue(there's a good number of girls who come here for dick).  

Lessons-
Stick on the girls for a long period of time, figure out exactly when they are leaving so you can walk them out of the door.   Its not needy to spend 1-2 hours with the girl enjoying myself.  "There's no reason why I'm not enough"



Thursday Nightgame-

Drinking night so I hit up maddys after pre drinking.  

Immediatly we sit down to get some beers.  Open up two hot Spanish girls and a guy walking by and chat to them for a bit and hook them.   Its an awkward position so we let em go cause they were blocking the way.  

Go and open a blonde and brunnete with my buddy.  I realize my girl is stupid as fuck and is the definition of a dumb blonde, she has no hobbies although she's quite cute.  She also has the sorority girl dumb accent and is addicted to her iPhone.  I'm arousing her and I chat to her for 10-15 minutes, and she has to meetup with her friends.  I'm pretty much subtly mocking her and she doesn't get that I"m mocking her cause she's too dumb lol.   Great warmup though.

See two spanish girls and the dude friend.  Dude friend has to take the call so I take his spot and start chatting up my girl.  Dude friend comes back and I make the mistake of offering my seat back.   Not a good idea cause I can't have the nice man to woman vibe there.  Chat to them a while, this girl is cool and is ambitious.  They have to leave early so she number closes me.  Don't know how this is going to work out since the vibe wasnt' as man to woman as I wanted it to be but I'll give it a try and text her.

Go upstairs and open a brown girl.  She's with 3 of her friends.  I have a mutual friend with her and I just keep blabbering stupid bullshit at her.  Intro myself to her friends sit down.  More friends join, including a guy.  Do a good job of staying in set even though I felt awkward at times.  I was drunk though, so I didn't give much of a fuck.  Befriend the guy, go the bar with him and do some drinks with him.  Get his number lol(i have no idea why i did that, something about pulling everyone to afterparty).  I need to take a piss so I head to the bathroom but I don't see them again.  I text the dude to invite them to the afterparty and they apparently left.... nightlife amatuers.

Do street game after Maddys.  See two of the TO pickup guys with two girls, one of them isn't doing anything with his girl and says he's only friends with them.  The other buddy of mine seems to have a fuckbuddy relationship with his girl  Cool, I start walking with my girl since he's not trying to fuck her.  Spanish chick, walk with her and I'm doing a good job engaging her, throw in some physicality.  We get in the car but we are divided by her friend in the middle.  I try to invite them to the afterparty so I could hook up with my girl but I think my buddy just wants to fuck his girl and he's tired so they drop me off.   Fair enough.

Try to open this German girl on the street and she's being a so I shout some stupid shit at her and say she's ugly durr.  Its kewl, sometimes it feels good to be an asshole even tho it accomplishs nothing.

Find a redhead on the street, walk with her.  Try to pull for afterparty but she's not down even though she's very attracted to me.  I should have kept walkign with her("I'm gonna get some McDonalds).  She had work early in the morning but more persistence is required.   Also I tried to verbally convince her when I should have just grabbed her hand and assumeed she would come.

Lessons-
-Befriending guys is easy, just talk guy shit and be friendly.
-When going for the pull just lead physically to see if she comes.  Assume she's gonna come.  
-Be relaxed end of night for street game, and don't be a headless PUA.  Had a good chat with a mentor who reminded me to be more relaxed instead of the guy who the girl knows she can get.  
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 Friday Nightgame-

Go downtown.  Check out this one place but the cover is very high and my friend can't get me in free.... I suck at dealing with female promoters.  Anyways I did try my best and that was a good warmup since it was a high social pressure situation where the promotors kept trying to get me to pay the full cover even tho a dude who works there was trying to get me in free.   Lesson learnt, next time do a couple of street sets to warm up before dealing with female promotors for any reason.  Why?  Because its a whole different ballgame than male promotors/bouncers who you just have to look in the eye, smile, and genuinely say hi.  

Meet up with Kash.TO and chat for a sec, also see a bouncer for a club I go to and chat ot him for a second .  Go to new bar/lounge opening and check it out.  See some promoters for a club I know so I make it my goal to network that night. 

Talk to a couple of girls.  One blonde girl who warmed up with and hugged/teased but I should have stuck with her because she seemed happy to meet me.  Two hot blondes that I just kept talking at and one of them was starting to get won over but they walked away....

Open up a brunnete and blonde, they are from out of town visiting for the weekend and very friendly.  Get physical with both of them, they are sweethearts and not typical Toronto King Street West bitches.  Chat to them for a bit and connect with the gorgoues brunnete, and they go back to their friends. Talk to some old dude just for the shit of it, had an interesting talk about Asia.   My buddy comes, and I finally have the balls to chat up one of the promotors for a quick second.  Not much but it does lay the footwork for future interactions so I can get better nightlife access.



In hindsight I should have focused on spending time with the two girls I connected with....  Durr.  This is the basic shit I need to focus on in the bar/club so I can get actual results.  Me and my buddy go out to streetgame.  Start chatting up two girls and try to get them to come to afterparty but they jump in a cab and go home.  Talk to two other girls, and they are down for an afterparty but I fuck it up cause I hear her tell me "I have kids" and I ask her does she have kids just to be sure.  She runs away with her friend.........

After that, we appraoch two blondes and mine completely ignores me and is glued to her iPhone.  I literally spend 5 minutes spewing out verbals with her ignoring me 100 percent.  Fuck iPhones.  I give up after a while but this was a good experience.  

After this, I don't give a fuck.  I appraoch two stunners, and my wing doesn't wing me but I can see mine flipping until the other Asian girl tells me to fuck off and turns the girl against me.  I said some hilarious shit though.  Keep streetgaming for a while more, htiting up girls.  Meet some brunnete girl and try to pull for afterparty but she isn't down(not enough time spent with her). 

See the brunnete from the club again, try to get her number but I hadn't spent enough time with her.... 

Overall amazing night because at the end I was super into the zone, the point where I gave no fucks at all and approached stunners with no fear.   I know I'm extremely close to getting my 2nd lay, I just need to focus on the godamn fundamentals.  Going to rewatch the Alex Natural Instincts Method Manifesto to reaffirm the importance of staying in set with a girl the whole night.  I don't have issues with getting girls aroused/attracted anymore, its just that I'm absolutely horrible at staying in set, walking them out, and the act of pulling.  I know I'm attractive but I need to focus on building the relationship with the girl.  

Lessons-
Once again, spend time with girls in the bar/club.  I should find one group to stick with most of the night and walk them out.
Street game is all about being engaging and lighthearted while also being very persistent.  Its a ton of fun.
Network to get into the best spots on busy nights.  Also networking brings social proof which automatically helps massively with hot women. 
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 Saturday-



Get to Maddys at 1 since I took a nap and woke up late...

Get there solo, do my first appraoch but I fuck up by not following her to her friends.  I'm fucking retarded for that because that girl was immediatly receptive but I was a who didn't lead her.

Chat up another girl, she's not attractive though.  I durr around and don't do shit.  Go outside Maddys.

See this brown girl leaving alone, want to appraoch her but she's getting into a taxi outside Maddys.  The right move would have been to be like "yo, don't get in the taxi".  I hesitated and don't do it.  Hesitation = Masturbation.

Go on the street and open up a couple girls but they are with guys.  Open a girl from Switzerland but she's super shy, and a 6,  try to get her to come to the afterparty but she's not down.

Keep appraoching some girls, meet up with my wing.  Open two girls at a burger shop, my girl seems receptive, his girl has a boyfriend who just cheated on her.   They leave.

Open some Asian girl and convince her to come to get food with me.  Meet up with two of my friends, one of who hits on her and basically kills any chance of me with her(I already was too friend to friend though).  

Have a chat about game with my buddy.  All of my friends are having massive success while I'm not getting shit.  He asked me "How bad do I want this?".  He also told me that reality is reality, and there's no way to trick it.  

I haven't been trying to be hard closer except at the end of the night for street game.

I know what I need to do- Spend the whole night with 1-2 groups at most.

That's what must be done for me to get laid.  Go in there, and follow the Natural instincts method, and stay with a girl and her friends for the whole night.    Its not a matter of having better game, being icier, beign cooler, etc, its only a matter of FORCING myself to stay in set with girls in the bar/club.
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 Sunday Night-

Hit up Sunday spot.  Had a good time but didn't push interactions far enough, especially with the hotties.  While this is my one night of the week I'm not that focused on pickup, I still need to push the ones that open as far as possible....  its a very loud club so I need to get physical fast.

Monday Daygame- Hit up daygame for a hour with my buddy.  Did around 6 appraoches, short convos.  Was very nervous throughout the hour as compared to usual, which girls could sense.

Realized that the reason I'm not feeling good is because I've been ignoring everything in my life and that I've been sucked into the short term mating strategy of just going out.  Went home, and now I realize I need to get on top of all my shit, as well as have a long meditation session.
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 Tues Night-

First night in Montreal.  Meet up with friends, drink a moderate amount.  Hit up hipster bars with disco music, kind of in my head since I'm not used to working in a smaller social circle enviornmetn.  Start chatting up some chubby chick who turend out to be fat when I sobered up......  My friends help orchestrate the pull by getting her guy friends on our side.  Pull her and have some bad sex with no head.  Whatever, though dry spell broken....

IF I hadn't sobered up right while hooking up with her I would have been happier with the hookup lol.  Still feel decent about busting a nut.


Wed night-

One of my friends is sick.  Wander in a few bars and get seperated from my friend.  I'm being a massive but I end up doing 3 appraoches while moderately drunk(couple of them went decently, but I wanted to keep checking out other bars so I left).... I was in my head cause of the smaller venues, everyone speaking french, etc.

Learned my lesson, need to be really proactive in breaking through fear.  Also talk to guys to establish a home base when solo.

Going to try doing some daygame today.

Lessons-
1.  Talk to guys to get comfortable and have a home base.
2. Break through AA, fuck what anyone thinks I"m only here for 3 more nights, gotta go HAM.
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 Thurs Night(night 3 in Montreal--

Got drunk as hell.  Go to the first bar and chat up a group of 2 girls and 1 guy to warmup.  They are leaving.

We go to another bar and my friends pull.  I'm there solo so I chill with 2 girls, one of them is very cute.  Spend like 1.5 hours with them and their friend, but they have to take the night bus and I barely got any chance at isolation with my girl..... durr 

Go to another bar, chat up various random guys and these two girls, one of them who I liked(very cute french brunnete).  No go though, big group and I couldn't build enough of a connection.  I should have still persisted and gone with them for food....



Also, I have an awesome opener for french girls now that works 100 percen of the time.  ITs retarded as fuck but it works.

Go back to my place... my buddy is finished fucking his girl so my other friend kicks open their door while she's naked.  Then he started tooling the two girls... it was the funniest shit ever. 

Lessons-
Screen well for ONS if you're in town for a short while.
Wings are important, make friends with random guys to occupy the girls friends if I have to.
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 awesome man! lol kinda lacking details but i guess you were drunk and didnt care too much about getting laid. 
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She was like a 4.   No details needed.
Tobias wrote:
 awesome man! lol kinda lacking details but i guess you were drunk and didnt care too much about getting laid. 
Friday Night-

Got wasted tonight.  Like the most drunk I've been in a long time.  4 days of straight drinking  = awesome.
First start with a bar near us.  Chat to two girls, mine is ugly but im too drunk to notice. Talk to them again and leave cause we wanna move on(why the fuck am i spending time on ugly girls).

Head to the bars on St. Laurent.  Go into one random one for free, start chatting up two beautiful french girls.  My wing dissapears so I leave to find him, even though I should have stayed in.

Try to find him, head to anotehr hipster bar playing hip hop thats packed. I  get on the stage and start dancing. Grind on soem random girls and have a blast.

End up at the bar next door, and start chatting up two girls.  My girl is cute but she does'nt wanna dance and I say how I can't dance etiher cause I have an injury.  She takes offense and thinks I"m mocking her which ends the set.  Gotta remember Montreal girls are more insecure compared to Toronto girls.  Toronto or other anglo girls you can treat like shit, but in Montreal there are many beautiful women so if you be cocky with them they are insecure enough to get offended.  Fuck Toronto lol, every hot girl and cool guy agrees with me that Montreal is better.  Montreal ftw.  Toronto is social retard land with mediocre girls who think they are the shit.



Thats why Montreal is awesome.  So many hot girls that even a very cute girl thinks she's average.  SO just gotta keep in mind that teasing and assholish game is better meant for dumbass Toronto bitches and I need to be nice here.

Anyways, I move on.  I open up a girl who speaks french and spanish only.  She's from Colombia and a 6.5.  Invite her to afterparty and she's down.  But she has two guy friends.  INvite them all and cab it back.  She was the only one who paid their share lol..  Keep in mind she speaks barely no english so I'm speaking horrible spanish to her and saying the same shit over and over again.

Get back in apartment and she's initially cold to my advances.  However she drinks a lot of rum, and slowly gets hornier.  She tries to makeout with me in front of her friends.  long story short I had her isolated for a bit, madeout with her, but she wanted to go back to her guy friends. They spent 1.5 hours here, and me and my wing did an amazing job of occupying them.  I'm very proud of pulling them and being able to make out with her. I didn't tell them all to go out for a sec wehn she went to bathroom tho, which I should have done.  Regardless, good job on my part for pulling the girl and her friends, and then making out with her.

Lessons-
Mixed sets can work, just gotta win over hte guys, and then be skilled enough to work logistics in my favor.
-Don't rely on a wing. 

I'm going back to TO tomorrow.  I realize I need to learn french so I can spend my summers here.  Montreal has massive potential if you can stay here long enough to befriend people, speak some french, and go on day 2s.  Especially in the hipster scene.  Most guys there are nothing compared to a guy like me who's way more masculine.
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