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My Name is Oozz.  This is my story: 4/20/12 - Saturday Night Night starts off and I am supposed to meet up with two different groups of girls I met last week.  I tell the girls to come meet me at the venue, no responses, I'm surprised.   It's dead we leave to our second venue and will come back later. Bounce to the second venue, its about 11:15.  Plenty of attractive women, but feeling off.  I have no eagerness to approach, despite the women.   We grab shots and flirt with the bartender, she thinks I'm cute.  Still feeling off, my group's energy is low, They are looking for me to bring the energy.  I need to get social, I start approaching: 1) Audrey,  White, Dirty Blonde Hair - HB8 - 5 set standing, 3 girls 2 guys.  Walk in between the group, lean into her ear ,and introduce myself.  She's nervous to talk to me.  She's rocking back and forth, I grab her hand andI tell her I'm not a creep. We laugh ,she calms down.  I start spewing my resume at her, she is  loosens up.  We chit-chat,  build rapport.  I'm very attracted to her, but I'm getting bored. It's still early, the pace of the conversation is slow.  She has good logistics and I should stick it out with her, but I 'm just not feeling it and eject. 2) Random Middle Eastern Girl HB6/7 -4 set walking, 2 guys 2 girls. They are holding hands train style and walk in between our group.  She had checked me out hard from across the room.  Her train stops near me, I assume they are proxying, and I open immediately.  My approach is too bold, she is attracted, but uncomfortable.  I tell her I'm a nice guy and what-not, just trying to smooth it out.  She is attracted and polite, but uncomfortable moving the interaction forward so  I eject. 3) Nadia, Tall Blonde Cougar - HB7/8 -Single Moving Nadia reminds me of a maneater, tall, large breasts, and long legs; probably 33-35.  She moved between me several times earlier, but was holding hands with a a older buff gentleman.  This time she was alone.  I put my arm out and stopp her.  She's appalled, and tries to move through me.  I cup my arm around her waist and nudger her closer to me.  I tell her my name and she tells me hers.  I ask her if she can spell my name, and she proceeds to spell it. I tell her she's a good speller.  She giggles.  She tries to leave, I pull her back and in tell her I am not finished talking.  She sizes me up, I stay strong..  She is attracted andI curious, but I'm still off.  "I'm teetering."  I take the interaction nowhere. I do not want to hang out with this girl for some reason.  She can sense my lack of intent and begins to turn away.  I tell her to find me later, she says ok. It's 12:00, the girls I am supposed to hang out with still have not hit me up.  I'm annoyed by this and reactively text them both. 4) Mega hottie, Tall Black Hair - HB10 This one is a stunner.  The crowd is parting as she walks through  I jump in front of her and introduce myself.  She tries to blow me off, but the interaction proceeds: HB10: Can I help you? Me: My name is xyz. HB10: I have to find my friends. Me: Don't leave, we just met. HB10: No seriously. Me: No seriously. I hold her hand and begin to push forward.  As we banter I move into her, she doesn't step back.  I felt a strong connection, but It's hard to recall what happens next. We somehow depart. It's 12:15, After paying the bartender leans in, asks for my name, and my reason for leaving. We go back to our original venue and it is a mecca of hot girls.  Why have I not been coming to this place before?  We are there for my friend's friend's birthday, he says hello.  She runs up screaming and hugs him.  He's social proofed.  I steal a bit by poking her and shooting for a hug.  We don't know each other very well, but she politely obliges.  She's there with a group of attractive middle eastern women who are dancing stiff, as if they didn't enjoy the music.  They stay stare at me, I wait for an intoruction, but it doesn't happen.   I get a text  from one of the girls I was supposed to meet up with, HBColombia: "Sorry I didn't see your text earlier.  We are having a sleepover tonight, but I will defintely go out next weekend." I'm super dissapointed, but I choose not to respond to the text.  She's lost her spot on my team, I'll have to put her on the mass text for next week.  Let's hope she comes out, she was beautiful.  I'm happy she texted me back, but ver dissapointed we couldn't meet up. 5) Frenchies, Blonde, HB5 & HB7 -2 Set Dancing They are dancing next to us, I know they will open well.  I introduce myself, they don't speak enligh (Fuck me).  I'm trying to joke with them, but the language barrier and loud music makes it difficult  They are at least somewhat into me because they are trying hard to speak with me.  I'm still off, and I begin to overcompensate by going over the top with dance moves.They are polite and entertained, but I eject. I really wasn't in the mood to deal with the language barrier, but it was probably an excuse. At this point I started feeling better, I felt like every girl in the venue was staring at me, but everone appeared stiff.  There are many attractive women around and I approach like a madman. 6) Frency, Black Hair, HB9-10 -Single walking OMG this girl was gorgeous as well.  I don't know where the influx of amazingly hot women is coming from, but I sure do appreciate it!  We make eye contact as she is walking and she knows I am going to approach her.  When I do she just giggles. I introduce myself and she leans close to me.   She tells me her name as well, and we hold hands.  With our hands clasped together we try to communicate, but her english is horrible and the music is BLASTING.  Neither of us can really hear each other, but there is definitely some physical chemistry.  I recall saying something like: Me: Let's go dance HB10: I have to go find my friends Me: Let's go dance and then find your friends HB10: I cannot understand you talking fast Me: Let's dance and then you find your friends HB10: ummmm... Me: It will be like a movie, we'll dance, fall in love, find your friends, and then get married. HB10: You talking very fast, I cannot speak the english good I literally facepalm myself.  I'm getting annoyed by this lost-in-translation BS, and I begin to realize all these hot women are from another country.  I honestly don't mind, and under normal circumstances I would have been more emotional mature, but I chidishly get frustrated and eject. 7) I Gotta Pee, Dirty Blonde Hair, HB8 -4 set moving Coming out of the bathroom I see a train of cute girls going into the women's restroom.  Some are cute, but the back one is extra cute.  We make eye contact and I jump in front of her and introduce myself.  She keeps telling me she needs to pee, but I plow through it.  We keep talking and I try to get her to come dance, but she says she needs to pee first.  At this point I really believe she needs to pee, I tell her "ok, I'll just catch up with you later." I opened anyone standing ear me.  Slowly I can see that many eyes are focused on me.  Mental masturbation aside, the women are just watching me go to workwork.  I don't think they had ever seen anyone approach with such... relentlessness.  No set went particularly bad, almost all lasting for at least 3-5 minutes, but no strong connections were being made. 8) Cougar, Black Hair, HB8 -5 Set Dancing Open a cougar that had been checking me out, or so I thought.  I approach and she tried to reject me with silence.  I plowed forward, and got a resposne but the intereaction was flat. 9) OMG, Blonde, HB10 -4 set moving A group of Hollywood blondes come walking in.  I get excited, as I don't normally get to game this many attractive women in one night.   The most attractive one of the group is at the end of the train.  I snatch her hand from her friends and introduce myself.  She yanks her hand back and ignores me.  I stop her with my arm, and raise my voice saying "My name is XYZ, I want to meet you!" She's stunned at my approach, and introduces herself.  We are vibing, but her friends drag her away in less than 1-2 minutes. By now I've tapped the place out, and want to re-approach.  I re-approach a blonde, we start dancing, turns out she is friends with the girl who needed to pee.  Turns out they are both friends with another girl I had spoken to at the bar.  They are polite, but the set goes nowhere. The HB10 french girl proxies me ont he dance floor, she is looking for me to re-approach.  I move in to say hi and we start dancing.  She introduces me to her friends, but I had already approached all of them invidivdually earlier in the night.  I'm unable to isolate, and the set dies out. The OMG blonde comes to proxy me, but before I can re-open my friends approach another group who I already approached.  They tell my friend something about how they already met me and "Is this what I do?."  It was about 1:30 and I made my exit.  Very dissapointed that I did not close, but will definitely be back next Saturday.  I return to the other club. I enter the venue and immediately re-approach Audrey.  She is talking with somone, and stares at me when I come in.  I say something witty, but she laughs with resistance,.  She's seen me approach every girl in there.  She's attracted, but says something negative framing me as a player. 10) Brazil, Brunette, HB8/9 -2 set standing I make eye contact with the bartender from before and walk up to say hi.  Before I get there I see two girls, one of which is attractive.  I open her and escalate quickly.  She leans into me very close, but we can hardly hear each other  I don't even try to communicate and begin dancing with her.  Her friend is just staring at us, so I lean over to her friend and respond: Me: I think your friend is cute, do you mind If I talk to her? Her friend brokenly mutters some english and I realize they can hardly speak english.  I try to plow w/o any verbals, but that takes me only so far.  I try to talk, but it goes very poorly.  I continue to plow, but they end up just moving across the room. I receive a text from one of the girls I was supposed to hang out with, she tells me where she is and half-assedly invites me.  Not a promising opportunity, but It wasn't the greatest night and I was really expecting to smash tonight.  I force the meet-up and head to a third club.  It is about 2:00-2:15 when I get there.  She tells me she is leaving in 20 minutes and I get frustrated.  Why would I even come here if you were leaving in 20 minutes?  She is cuter than I remember.  She tells me she is playing host to some friends, and introduces me.  The guys are not very friendly.  She was acting very distant, which bothered me, but we catch up for a bit and I drag her to the bar.  She says she doesn't want to drink anymore, and the interaction went downhill from there,  Looking back I can see that I was probably being too pushy.  I politely escort her back to her friends and she scurried out of the club giving me a big hug, which I awkwardly reject. We head home and I open 4-5 sets as we are getting food.  Nothing special. Notes: -Too much approaching can be bad.  Assess the situation a bit better before blindly approaching everyone -Find the girl you want to hang out with and hang out with her for as long as possible. -Be comfortable with silence. -Lower expecations. -Be comfortable leading the interactoin into any direction. -Always Re-approach. x4 rule -Don't force anything, be congruent with the emotional state you are in. My first post and it was a long one.  Be back soon. And since everyone else is doing this, I mine as well.
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Day 2 4/21/13

Ran some errands and cleaned the house.  Nobody wanted to go out, next week I will have to go out alone.  I thought I was past going out alone, I guess not.  I'm pretty excited though, at least I can hold myself accountable for being chodey.
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Day 3 4/22/13

Woke up feeling amazing.  Went to the mall during my lunch break to open some sets.  Only found one girl that was 1/2 way decent and got some serious AA and pussied out.  Didn't stress it because I planned on going to a baseball game after work and would open sets there, but had to stay late to meet a deadline.  Forced myself back to the mall after work to open sets, but it was closing and completely empty.  I'm going to have to start opening guns in the stores.  There is a huge lunch rush at my usual spot, but I'm scared to open there since many people from my job frequent this place.  I don't think it would be good if they saw me opening, but I'll have to start sneaking some sets in there if I want to really do this.

This reminds me of why I hate the suburbs.  Can't wait to move to Miami.  I need to find some good places during the day to open.  My skill set during the night is pretty good, and I believe that is what is holding me back during the day.  I'm afraid to be rejected, thus reverting me back to a state of mind that I may not be as good with women as I believe I should be.  I'll have to humble myself over the course of the next week.

Notes:
-Force yourself to open during the day.
-Find places to open during the day.
-Manage your expectations.
-Positive affirmations.

Dissapointed that I was unable to open anything, but I'm dedicated to this and excited to go HAM tomorrow.  Going to a concert with some friends after work, sold out show should provide some good opportunities.
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 Keep up the good work man.
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Been a busy week, finally have the chance to update.  It was a BIG week for me.  Lots of new paradaigms (sp) are coming together.  I'm going to change this from a 30-day challenge to a liftestyl intregation log.  Personally, I advance faster with less stringet terms of approaching.   I am also finding that my pick-up is more potent when I lead a balanced lifestyle of family, interests, work, etc.. So, now I will work to puruse the things I am intereste din and approach whomever I am attracted to approach, keeping a log of my personal progression.

Tuesday  4/23/13
Went to a hip hop concert, it was definitely a younger crowd and I couldn't tell who was and was not approachable.  The artist was actually amazing, I'll definitely have to go to another one of these.

1) Asians, 2 HB8
-Seated
Opened two asians sitting in front of us.  Conversation naturally flowed, they were attracted and I just needed to spend more time with them.  I got too nervous to reappraoch, but I believe they would have responded positively.

2) How old are you, 2 HB9 HB6
-Dancing
Opened two girls dancing in front of us.  The HB9 was eyeing me while she was dancing, I hesistated in my approach, but forced it.  They were attracted initially, but I was very in-my-head and began to choke over my words.  I plowed, but they ejected shortly after.

Thursday, 4/25
Went to happy hour then randomly headed to the city to go clubbing.  It was an interesting night.

1) Bottlerat, two african and one asian: HB8, HB5, HB6
-Standing
Randomly began chatting with several girls during happy hour.  Two were African and one was Asian, one of the African's I found very attractive.  As we are talking it is hard to tell if she is attracted, but I continue talking, not even expecting an outcome.  The conversation was slow paced, I could even go as far to say it was chode, but I kept my frame strong and enjoyed it for what is was worth.  As we kept talking it became more and more obvious that the HB8 was very attractive.  Fortunately, the other African girl was her sister and I had won her over quickly.   My friends did not enter, and I held the set for roughly 2.5 hours.  Naturally flowing the conversation between all of us, and expresing yself freely, outcome independent.  Note: I would often take moments to pause in between my words.  I would embrace silence and did not feel compelled to be witty or entertaining., which would actually force the girl to game me.  Stuck the set ouf for about 2 hours and closed her.   We texted back and forth as we walked to my friend's apartment.  She wanted to continue hanging out, but I had already committed to going out the city.

We then proceeded to go into a loud dance venue in the city.  So much has happened since, so it is hard to remember the order of of what happened, but I will try my best.

We get in, order a round of drinks, and start dancing around.

2) Robbery, blonde hb7 and brunette hb7
I open two girls standing near us they are digging it, but I'm not super into the interatction.  My energy is a bit high and they are not there yet.  I eject, but open them later.

3) Backwards hat, black hair hb8/9
I open a cute spanish girl wearing a sideways baseball cup standing alone, she is young.  I'm high energy at this point and she is clearly attracted, but intimidated.  I slow my pace to accomodate her and she loosens up a bit, but the set goes nowhwere.  She is complying with my conversation, but will not allow any escalation.  I believe I saw her there with a guy, but hroughout the night she would not stop staring at me.

I recall opening and re-opening  a number of groups through the club, not really looking to pull, but moreso to expand the good vibes.  My friend and I love house music, so we are easiliy exciting when the music is good.  We head to the dance pit and I see the two girls I opened previously, "Robbery,"  are dancing with two guys, clearly chodes.  I walk over and grab the blonde HB7 and slowly start pulling into me as I make some random banter to occupy her logic.  The guy she is dancing with starts backing up and I start pulling her friend in, she is less resistant.  The two chodes just stand and watch as I pull the girls into me for a group hug. They are going along with it, but with resistance; the blonde more than the brunette.  I plow through and bring my friend in to start dancing.  We ignore any negative emotions and plow forward. The brunette loosens up quickly, seeing that we are a lof fun, but the blonde, the more attractive one, is still giving me resistance.  I hold strong, knowing she just needs to get comfortable with me.  As we are dancing she slowly backs into me, brushing her butt into me, somewhat testing the waters, lol.  I move into her a bit and we start grinding, matching each others pace quickly.  We dance very smoothly for about 1/2 a song before she starts freaking out and running to her friend.  Note: My opinion was that she could not logically convince herself to be with me. She was the beta and was not yet convinced if I had enough value to do what I did.   Instead of calming her nerves I pull her friend in and start dancing with her.  She is open to me and we start dancing around.  The blonde stand around dazed and confused for a 3-5 mintues, before I end up losing interest and eject.

4) Denim, black hair, hb8
-Group dancing with friends
I open a young spanish girl wearing a cut-off denim jacket who is dancing with a group of friends.  I do not dance, but just approach her and start bantering.  Upon my approach she blushes nervous and sfifense up.   It is clear that she views me as a very attractive person, my reality is literally coming down on her like a landslide and her friends are stuck in spectator mode as I continue the conversation effortlessly in the middle of the dancefloor.  Note: We are literrly on the dance floor in the middle of a group of her freinds, as I am gaming her.  I lead the interaction playfully, and start dancing calmly in place.  Her movements are much more stiff and she is fighting the urge to look into my eyes. She is not leaving and responds to my requests well, but I see that shewill require a large amount of effort and have not  screened logistics.  A male comes into the group and she slowly latches on to him for comfort,.  I see that she is still digging me, but will require much more time.  Note: I believe this girl's lack of experience made her very nervous.  I often find that younger girls (under 22), who have yet to experience a lot of approaches require a different type of rapport before they can really open themselves up.  More often then not, they are out with a specific group of people and have not ventured the world by themselves.  They are "scared" of the unkown.

5) Peruvian, HB8/9
-Walking
As I am walking up stairs I spot another very attractive latin girl and approach her.  Now that I think of it, there were many latin girls there, lol. As we walk past each other I grab her hand and spin her into me.  She spins with resistance, but quickly ignores me and walks off.  I stare into her eyes and reach back for her hand firmly, she complies.  I pull her in closer and reply "I really want to meet you, you seem cool."  She opens up warmly, and we start chatting.  The club is extremely loud and the communication is not going, but the attraction is somehow building nicely.  I am calmly dancing in place as we try to understand each ohert, our vibe just keeps building.  She starts qualifying herself hard, as I take her to get a drink.  I end up knowing the bartender and she greets me warmly as I order her a drink.  We talk for a bit and shortly thereafter my friend shows up and provides me with some awesome energy and a beer, which I don't want or drink.  i put the beer to the side and start dancing with the girl next to the bar.  We are hardly talking, but the silence creates strong tension and the vibe is burning up.  Note: In the past I would break the silence to build comfort, but what I see now is that talking breaks the comfort.  I believe establishing comfort with the girl in moments of silence is a very power eperience, and builds sexual tension. 

We continue to dance slowly inching into each other, matching each other's pace.  We move into each other as we are going to kiss, but we do not.  Note: In the past I would have gone for the kiss, as a way to satisfy my ego and/or validate the interatction was a success.  Nowadays, more times than not, I do not kiss the girl as often/quickly, but the arousal I build is much more powerful, leading to a more solid close. It is ON at this point, and I start to ease the pedals to relax the situation.  She responds positively, but emberassingly blurts out she has a kid almost immediately.  I don't mind and we move the conversatio forward.  She tells me to come meet her frends, and we walk several steps before saying she needs to go to the bathroom.  I get a bit confused because I sense that she is going to leave and pull her into dance, ignoring the comment.  She restates that she has to go to the bathroom and I forcefully banter to occupy her logic, and begin to dance.  I move in really close this time, and grind on her gently.  She smiles warmly, she's aroused, lol.  We ease off each other, as she spots her friend.  They scurry off to the bathroom and I find my friends.  Note: I have been burned so many times by the "bathroom exit" that I have very negative association when a girl says it to me.  As my game has improved over the past weeks girls will often say this, but they actually do need to go the bathroom.

I see the girl walking back with her friend to my peripherals, and I re-open her.  She stops for a second as we exchange numbers.  I find my friends and we start tearing the dance floor up.  Everyone is dancing alongside us as they pass, and the girls we opened previously either proxy or dance with us.  One girl even runs up to us and starts jumping around so hard she looses her balance and slides into the wall like a cartoon character; oddly enough she was attractive.

Out of the corner of my eye I see the peruvian girl leaving and I re-open her. Note: Before I would not re-open as often, but I now respect the 4x rule religously.  I am quickly learning that most sets will require 1-4 re-opens throughout the night.  As the night progresses shit just naturally happens that separtes you and the girlBefore I would always think that re-opening was very needy, but being comfortable to re-open is a very attractive quality that I see many guys lack.  A lot of the natural guys I do see that are successful, often re-approach, somewhat blindly and ignorant to any neediness that it may portray.  She stops and kisses me on the lips, tells me to call her, and scurries out.

We end up leaving shortly after, great night.

I'll have to post the rest of the weekend tomorrow, going to head to bed.

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 Good reports! Very accurate!
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 Great reading, I appreciate te detail.
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So I belive I left off from Thursday.  I had closed the HB8/9 Peruvian.

Friday 4/26

Hit up Peruvian from the prior night..  She doesn't respond for several hours, so I retext hopin to get a response.   She "lol's" and becomes responsive.  I do little to banter and push for the day 2, "come out with us at night." She says she is tired and counteroffers quickly for Saturday.  I agree and continue my day. Note: I had to consult a friend regarding this  When I text the girl, the assumption often that we only have shared 1 situation together, the prior night.  With that said, I will usually use callback humor or just friendly banter to continue where we left off. Additionally, I prefer to contact ASAP, almost always the day immediately after (this is just my preference).

My friends invite me out to a local bar outside of the city, I oblige.  I literally wait for them at the bar for 30  minutes alone. I don't get bothered by it, and I don't force myself to open. I drink my beer and entertain myself with memes and look up a few things on the internet.  When they arrive they have a very random drunk that they had met at the previous bar.  She is not attractive and incredibly beligerent.  So, it is two of my friends (brothers), myself and some random ass lady.

1) Brittanis, 2 set: 1 HB7 blonde, 1 HB9 brunette
My friend points out two attractive women seated behind us, but does not approach.  I egg him on to pump his state and immediately open them.  My conversation is coming off strong, and we are quickly moving things into a light hearted direction.  I had seen the HB9 scoping me earlier, so I move towards her. My friend's brother comes in and blows me out hard.  They are twins and it creates a lot of initial attraction/curiosity.  Instead of ejecting I hold my frame and let their interaction move forward.   I am sitting as a spectator just enjoying their interaction for about 3-5 minutes, comenting sparsely.  Once the initial flash of attraction caused by the "twin effect" wore down their conversation lulled and I moved back in.  It looks as though one of the brothers has strong rapport and the other ejects. I push him onto the HB9 and occupy the HB7.  She gives me some shit, but I open her up and we begin joking.  She continues to try and fight me off, but I plow through very passively. I begin to amuse myself and it spreads to her.  The HB9 has lost interest in my friend and is now attracted to me.  I ignore her stares and batner with them.  Somewhow we separate.  Note: More happened in this set that I believe would be of value to many people.  I will add when I have time.

2) Pyschic
-5 set: HB6 & 1 HB8 Brunette, HB6 Blonde, 2 Guys
-Seated
Earlier in the night I had seen an attractive Brunette girl with a large group.  She is seated across the bar from me.  She is cornered with her back to a pillar and a group of friends surrounding her.  I breathe heavily and continue to walk towards her.  I sway throug her friends and around the corner of the bar to her side.  I do not question my intention or the aggressiveness of the approach.  I introduce myself and begin to banter.  She is highly attracted and  is older than I had thought.  As we conversate I am not sure whether or not I am interested enoughr.  She says something that strikes my interest and I commit to our interaction.  Note: She could easily sense my hesitation when I was "teetering."  In situations like this I have learned to commit to the interaction, not with a commitment to pull and/or "get the girl," but a committment to myself that I will enjoy this conversation and present myself fully, regardless of where the chips may fall.  We hit it off and chat more.  The conversation dies a bit and introduce myself to the friends.  I tell her friends that I she think is cool and I am interested in her, they approve.  She stiffens up a bit, but continues to talk with me.  My friends pull me to smoke hookah.  She tells me she is there every week, and I eject.

3) Nameless
-2 Set: HB4 & HB4
-Dancing
I walk past two girls dancing, one of them looks familiar.  I lean in to say hello and she recognizes me.  We hit it off, I quickly try tobuild rapport with banter, but somehow she asks my if I know her name.  I confidently responde with the wrong name, she becomes offended and ejects 1/2 seriously.

At this point we are waiting for our hookah, but another table is using it.  Somehow another person joins our group who is part of another group.   I am feeling very positive and banter with everyone around me.  I am getting a lot of interest from the girls around me.

4) Brazil
-1 Set: HB8 (She was incredibly attractive to me, but for objective sake I will go with an 8)
-Standing
As I am standing I make small talk with the new group member's group (does that make sense?).    I see one girl that is very attractive and talk to her. We are bantering and I push the interaction into edgy territory.  I tell her my last girlfriend was a bad kissser and that she was "too closed mouth" kisser.  She laughs and recipriocates a similar situation.  I then tell her it was hard to stick my tongue in her mouth and that I like to use my tongue when I kiss.  She responds blankly, her reactiveness towards me diminishes, but her eyes say a different story. We keep talking, not as intensely as before, but with long pauses in between our sentences.  Note: In the past I would have taken her silence and/or "step-back" as disinterest, but now I believe it to be the "click" moment (Alex describes this very welll on one of his videos I'll pull the link later).  Essentially, it is somewhat the moment the girl realizes she likes you and gets nervous or retreats to her head.  In a sense, when a girl meets an attractive new guy it is somewhat overwhelming and can be scary, so she may tense up.  I introduce my friends, the twin effect takes place and I can swear they have the rourtine rehearsed.  I lie back and amuse myself while they perform.  There is something off about their vibe (reaction seeking IMO),z and she immediately looses interest.  I swoop in before she ejects, saying something generic, but honest.  She continues to leave, but I grab her hands for a double high five.  It comes off corny, but she enjoys it.

We stand for a few minutes. re-group ,and plan our exit for the city.  As we are standing I can see the Brazilian girl from inside.  She is staring at me through her friends.

I re-enter and immediately talk to nameless, seeking forgiveness and trying for rapport.  She is resistanting strongly, but her friend is open to me and my positive energy is slowly converting her.  I finally win her over and we start dancing together.  We are just fucking around, but I can see that she is looking for a bit of escalation.  I avoid it, making it awkward, and start grinding next to an older blonde woman.  She dances with me light-heartedly and then moves in to grind on me. I oblige and grind on her 1/2 seriously.  She moves further into me and I call one of my friends over and we sandwich her, laughing histarically.  Note: Please be aware that as we are doing this we are not ridiculing her, but my friend and I are enjoying each others "wildness"  (no homo).  The woman goes along with it, entertained by our shenannigans.  I push for us to leave and exit the empty dancefloor.

As we are leaving I re-open one of the "Brittani's," the HB7 to be exact.  She is cold as ice, and is not taking any of my shit.  Her energy is outright negative and I choose not to plow.  My friend continues to blow 1/2 drunkenly.  I see the HB9 and start a conversation, she is not into it, but I hold my frame and keep bantering as though she will respond.  She respondes, but does not accept the frame.  I dance in place as my friend continues to plow.  The brunette sees me dancing and begins eyeing me.  She moves past me and I re-open her again (3/4 of x4 rule), she is warm.  I see that she is with a large black guy, but she does not react to him as we talk.  My friend rolls off the HB7 blonde and I eject.

Our group diminishes and it is only one other and myself.  Our vibes are a bit off and politely argue about where to go.  I win bitterly and we head to my favorite venue.  As the cab pulss up, we stare at each other blankly and push back and forth on who has to pay.  I end up paying (i'm a chode).  The venue is dead compared to how good it usually is, but there are still enough attractive girls.  He quickly goes to the bar and we grab a drink.  Note: Up to this point he and I had never gone out just the two of us.  We were both not at our most comfortable.  As usually I see some cute girls andI start opening.  The sets are opening briefly, but going nowhere.  I can see that he is uncomfortable with my approaching.  It is bad for me to assume, but I believe he views my approaches as rejections, which they very well could be, but I have yet to open them x4.  I muster up some energy and enjoy the music, loosening myself up.  I continue to approach every attractive girl that comes my way, but this time I better calibrate myself so that I do not become an approach machine.  Several girls are now eyeing me curiously, but my friend is unable to see this.  He suggests we lap, and despite my unwillingness I confirm his request.  We tells me he's gonna find some hot girls and get shots, but it fails miserably.  I move us back to the dancefloor and he begins throwing a hissyfit, saying this girl wants him to go across the street to another club.  I ignore his bitching and pull an attractive brunette.  We lock eyes.  FINALLy!.  My sets finally hook, and I was beginning to lose some confidence.  It is ON, we move into each other to dance, and I slowly banter into her ear.  It isn't more than 3 minutes before my friend demands we leave.  I move to speak with him and the girl gets pulled away by a friend.  I back down and we end up moving to a different club.  We go home.  No close!
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Join Date: 02/28/2013 | Posts: 223

Saturday 4/28

Hit up Peruvian she is solid to chill during the day. Note: I'm starting to love day game, much more mellow, girls are less defensive and often times more attractive. I also text the other two girls from this week and last week that I met, one is responsive and down to chill for the night.

I take a few of my guys up to water front and shop/fuck around until she gets there. She is super late because of traffic and when she gets there my phone does and we struggle to find each other. After about 15 minutes of wandering I finally find her and she is there with like 100 dudes. Im looking pretty sharp, many girls have been eye fucking me up and down the streetcar but she pays me no mind initially. She is acting distant, so I ignore her and start chatting up everyone else. I'm vibjng well with everyone, making a point to share cool stories and things about myself so she can hear. Eventually she starts peering back at me and swoop the seat next to her. As we are talking several older uys are coming in and out of our conversation, all seem to have strong rapport with her. She tells me she met them 2 weeks ago, I get the give this girl is a slut. We talk for a bit, she is hesitant at first to open up, but i get her to warm up to me. Just as we are hitting it off I tell her I have to go. She asks why so early and I tell her next time she should be on time. She invites me to come out at night and I oblige. It was unfortunate that I had to leave, had I stayed longer I'm pretty sure we would have hooked up.

By the time I leave its about 8:30 and I need to change and get back into the city. On top of this the African girl from earlier in the week is texting me on where to meet, but I also have to meet with the Peruvian girl, fml. I end up inviting them to two places across the street from each other, my plan is to chill with the African first as I know she won't let me smash, the. As the night progresses leave and hang out with Peruvian.

Upon heading out to the city I get a text from colombian girl and she wants to hang out. Wtf, lol. I tell her yes, and brainstorm how to do it omw. By the time I get to the city Colombia and African are both at the meet up location. I see Colombia and she is HOt, so I take her across the street instead of our original place (where African is) and begin out day 2. She comments on my looks immediately and tells me she can only stay 30 minutes. I happily agree as I have to meet African very soon.

Our 30 minute extends to the entire night. I end up flaking on both African and Peruvian, but we had such a good time I didn't care. This girl is very sheltered and not comfortable with my physical escalation, so I have to be very passive with my physicality. Instead of directly escalating I would. Drag her by her hand and show her things. I would gently guide ur by the waist. whenever we stand/sit i would make sure my arm is touching or our legs were touching, etc.. She is highly attracted to me, but not comfortable escalating, I don't push it and i can see that she really likes that. We end up having an awesome ass time just the two of us. We go to the club and dance around, hide behind people, role play, and start full-on pillow fighting in the model of the outdoor patio. As we are leaving i run into all my friends and my ex who cheated on me. The girl i am wit is eztremely atrractive and i think to myseld, bite it bitch! As we part ways I set up the next date. I really like this girl, but I'm not looking for anything serious, so I'm interested to see how it plays out.
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Since Saturday, Colombia and I have been texting a lot. I mean almost every 15 minutes for 3-4 days straight. We have a lot of chemistry and I really like this girl, it's very scary. Note: as I start to like a girl more i begin to pay the game with much more caution which is not good. It's so paradoxical/ironic. The more you like someone the more outcome attached you are and the less you are to act in your most attractive persona. This is an area of the game I am only starting to learn now, and it really tests the depths of your identity and core.

I end up taking out African girl on Tuesday. We to go out to eat, the conversation flows pretty smoothly, I'm unsure of myself at first. When we begin the date I try and control her perception of me, strategically speaking about things that will increase my perceived value. An example is trying to avoid certain topics like exes and relationships. Additinally, she is talking about 70% and myself 30%, which makes me uncomfortable. Trying to control our conversation like this stems from my own insecurities and need for control. It provides me with a reference point that allows me gauge where th interaction is. But this is a false sense of control, and i believe all real "players" of the game will need to eliminate this to really reach core confidence. To sum it up, I believe this type of advanced supplication, which can be very difficult to pinpoint or fix. . After our first drink I quickly realize what I am doing is not helping me or her, it is only blocking our communication. I give up attachment and just start flowing, talking about everything from boyfriends to exes, to sports, to fashion, to my own philosophy on love. interaction quickly changes. The proportion of the conversation does not change, but the undercurrent does. Somehow I can tell she is "aroused." We end up having a good time, but she doesn't eat her food which pisses me off because it was $20. When we leave her sister is picking me up, so I can't kiss her, but she gives me a good hug (lame as shit I know) and we coordinate to meet up later this week.

I learned a ton from this experience, and I look forward to more day 2's. I'm realizing that the real pull is in Day 2. I probably won't take girls out to eat on the day 2 going forward, too expensive and less physical interaction; there are just so many better options.
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Join Date: 05/16/2013 | Posts: 11

 Perfect job man, your reports inspire me to do more approaches.
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