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JohnBonham

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Join Date: 04/06/2013 | Posts: 26

  First post here....

I'm 21, still a virgin, and basically a total loner. I work from home (make good money) and due to this never really get out of the house either besides when I hit the gym. I'm incredibly depressed and it's really wearing me down. I'm not really any "ugly" guy, just never really noticed by any women. I'd say i'm average, or a little below average. I hate how I look though and am constantly thinking about it..... hence why I just ignore cute women because I know they aren't interested in a guy that looks like me. Any videos I should start off watching? All the content on this site is overwhelming.
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S.Plissken

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGp25fn25Cs
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The most profound lessons I found in my journey so far:
-More often than not, great men are not born, they are built.

-There are two ways to get good at becoming attractive to women: You either become a good enough liar, or you become a good enough man.
-Value x Escalation = Sex. If you want more sex, simply increase your value and/or your escalations (escalate more girls, or escalate stronger)
-Self-improvement is what increases your value. Self-acceptance is what makes it easier for you to escalate.
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Clairvoyance

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Join Date: 09/20/2012 | Posts: 25

 Alright listen up because I also went through depression. I'm willing to bet money that you will soon go into the next phase of pick-up, which is anger/hate/aggressiveness. You will realize that after ALL of this effort, you are still getting no results. You will realize that you still haven't been laid despite being 21. You will realize that the world is a piece of shit place and it was never as nice as you thought it was. This will eventually get you pissed. Really pissed.

This anger/hate/agressiveness will branch out into two possibilities:
1) You leave pickup and stay isolated. You don't even approach anymore, and your life pretty much ends there. I'm assuming you will settle for some shitty woman in her 30s when you're older, and live a shitty life.

2) You take that anger and stop giving a shit about outcome completely. You turn into an agressive asshole who burns everything to the ground, and enjoys doing it. When a girl tells you no, you stare coldly in her eyes until you creep her out, because at this point you no longer give a shit. When a girl "friendzones" you, you literally say to her "Do I look the type of fucking guy that you can be 'just friends' with? Who the fuck do you think you are?"

Doing these type of things will make you feel really fucking great. (Yeah, I'm talking from personal experience here)

This anger eventually gives you freedom from outcome. Completely. You enjoy taking your revenge out by burning everything to the ground. Eventually you realize that the world is yours to pillage, and you don't have to be "worthy" (in your case "good looking") to get what you want, because you can just break the rules instead. In a sense, you lose your moral bounds, and steal what you want. Girl gives you Last Minute Resistance? You look her dead in the eye and say "Then get out.". If she leaves, you truly don't give a fuck, because that brief moment of telling her to "get out" was more satisfactory than sex could have been.

After a while of this, you start judging every girl you're with. You don't even game anymore, you just "reward" her when she does something good and "punish" her when she does something bad. You only game to hook her attention, the rest is like training a dog. This is because you want the girl to fit into your ideals now, not the other way around.


Essentially:

Anger -> Not giving a shit -> Loss of morality/Loss of seeing-the-world-through-society -> "Good" game


Shut the fuck up about looks. You haven't even been hurt enough to get REALLY pissed off. Once you completely stop giving a shit, you will play by your own rules. The first sign of that is you breaking rules, or acting like a dick to people for the smallest things they do to piss you off.

For a period, you become the "Dark pickup newbie herp derp". This is a necessarry change you have to go through.
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NYtitsjunkie

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Join Date: 07/18/2012 | Posts: 38

tits
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NYtitsjunkie

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make a decision and repeat to yourself everyday for 5 min nonstop "I am attractive" and u will notice awesome change... u could use same technique for dealing with other issues... 


but depression itself is a big killer of all the good things because it attracts more and more negative thoughts... u gotto jump out of it as soon u realise its on u.. try EFT, it works, just give it a try and trust that it will work...


there your 2 magic pills, its up to u to take them
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JohnBonham

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Clairvoyance wrote:
 Alright listen up because I also went through depression. I'm willing to bet money that you will soon go into the next phase of pick-up, which is anger/hate/aggressiveness. You will realize that after ALL of this effort, you are still getting no results. You will realize that you still haven't been laid despite being 21. You will realize that the world is a piece of shit place and it was never as nice as you thought it was. This will eventually get you pissed. Really pissed.

This anger/hate/agressiveness will branch out into two possibilities:
1) You leave pickup and stay isolated. You don't even approach anymore, and your life pretty much ends there. I'm assuming you will settle for some shitty woman in her 30s when you're older, and live a shitty life.

2) You take that anger and stop giving a shit about outcome completely. You turn into an agressive asshole who burns everything to the ground, and enjoys doing it. When a girl tells you no, you stare coldly in her eyes until you creep her out, because at this point you no longer give a shit. When a girl "friendzones" you, you literally say to her "Do I look the type of fucking guy that you can be 'just friends' with? Who the fuck do you think you are?"

Doing these type of things will make you feel really fucking great. (Yeah, I'm talking from personal experience here)

This anger eventually gives you freedom from outcome. Completely. You enjoy taking your revenge out by burning everything to the ground. Eventually you realize that the world is yours to pillage, and you don't have to be "worthy" (in your case "good looking") to get what you want, because you can just break the rules instead. In a sense, you lose your moral bounds, and steal what you want. Girl gives you Last Minute Resistance? You look her dead in the eye and say "Then get out.". If she leaves, you truly don't give a fuck, because that brief moment of telling her to "get out" was more satisfactory than sex could have been.

After a while of this, you start judging every girl you're with. You don't even game anymore, you just "reward" her when she does something good and "punish" her when she does something bad. You only game to hook her attention, the rest is like training a dog. This is because you want the girl to fit into your ideals now, not the other way around.


Essentially:

Anger -> Not giving a shit -> Loss of morality/Loss of seeing-the-world-through-society -> "Good" game


Shut the fuck up about looks. You haven't even been hurt enough to get REALLY pissed off. Once you completely stop giving a shit, you will play by your own rules. The first sign of that is you breaking rules, or acting like a dick to people for the smallest things they do to piss you off.

For a period, you become the "Dark pickup newbie herp derp". This is a necessarry change you have to go through.
Really helpful man. Thanks
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JohnBonham

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NYtitsjunkie wrote:
make a decision and repeat to yourself everyday for 5 min nonstop "I am attractive" and u will notice awesome change... u could use same technique for dealing with other issues... 


but depression itself is a big killer of all the good things because it attracts more and more negative thoughts... u gotto jump out of it as soon u realise its on u.. try EFT, it works, just give it a try and trust that it will work...


there your 2 magic pills, its up to u to take them
Rad

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NotSoAverageJoe

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Any of this guys videos and especially this one

 
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Watch these, in this order.

Act on it. Report back.
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JohnBonham

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 Thanks!
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