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When does persistence become needy?
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Resmat

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I'm having trouble finding the line between persistence and neediness. I understand that some girls won't just allow themselves to get seduced, they like a little chase, however I feel kind of needy going after girls this way, I don't know, it's just like "well.. if I continue to pursue her, then she becomes the prize not me". Am I thinking about this the wrong way? 

Was there a vblog/freetour on this topic? I forgot. 

Also this is not really limited to cold approach but warm approach as well. There are girls in my social circle like this (I can think of one in particular).
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Starno

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Hi,


Be persistent with girl but the why in your head should be because it's the right thing for your personal development.
Because it's the right thing to do, not because i care about the outcome, not because i'm attached.

You're doing it eaither for your own fun or your own growth and as long it is coming from that place it will be non need and it will work.

If you're trying to make it work it won't.
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Seedro

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This is what games all about really... allocating your resources to the girls who you won't have to chase quite as much...

Theoretically I would say EVERY girl is fuckable if you spent enough time... but it's just not worth it...

Spend your energy as a living being wisely... constantly ask YOURSELF how much the girls is worth... no the forums...
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Starno

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@Gravity,

Actually yes and no, like I said it depends from which place it is coming from.

For example, if you see a girl who's starting to go away, and to take back her attention, you grab her hand and make her come close to you as you can see with some Julien infield footage.

In a certain way it could appear as ˝ persistant ˝ right ?


Everything comes from your perception, you can do the most ˝ needy ˝ thing ever. If in your head it is ˝ awesome ˝, it won't come across as needy.
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Resmat wrote:
I'm having trouble finding the line between persistence and neediness. I understand that some girls won't just allow themselves to get seduced, they like a little chase, however I feel kind of needy going after girls this way, I don't know, it's just like "well.. if I continue to pursue her, then she becomes the prize not me". Am I thinking about this the wrong way? 

Was there a vblog/freetour on this topic? I forgot. 

Also this is not really limited to cold approach but warm approach as well. There are girls in my social circle like this (I can think of one in particular).


A wise man once said, "I don't chase. I replace."



Cheeky innit?

Likely, if you have to ask this question, you've probably crossed the line a long time ago.

Free tour and vblogs help but, like training wheels, the responsibility is yours to develop the social intelligence and awareness to know the difference.

You are a better man replacing a specific female then playing into recovery mode.



Learn from naturals like Zyzz too.
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Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
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brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
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Armatron

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 I love this topic. Someone made a thread a week ago about he he tried gaming this girl for 3 weeks with no results or responses. He said fuck it, and let her go for 3 months, then randomly texted her asking her out for drinks. Winded up dating her (not exclusively) for 9 months. When he asked her why she finally decided to date him, she said 'because you were persistant".

I believe what she really meant was "because you were persistant...over a longer period of time"

Being persistant over a course of minutes, hours,or days could very well sub-communicate neediness. Unless you're just including her in every awesome adventure you're on.
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Armatron wrote:
 I love this topic. Someone made a thread a week ago about he he tried gaming this girl for 3 weeks with no results or responses. He said fuck it, and let her go for 3 months, then randomly texted her asking her out for drinks. Winded up dating her (not exclusively) for 9 months. When he asked her why she finally decided to date him, she said 'because you were persistant".

I believe what she really meant was "because you were persistant...over a longer period of time"

Being persistant over a course of minutes, hours,or days could very well sub-communicate neediness. Unless you're just including her in every awesome adventure you're on.

+1

4x rule however, there is a fine line between this and chasing mate.

You be the judge. Social awareness and intelligence for the win!
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Jlaix: You are rather cheeky I admit but the self amusing authentic avi makes it impossible to hate!
Tyler:This is ultimately one of the keys to the game -- viewing EVERYTHING AS A JOKE. It's ALL funny.
Tim:`How can I make this fun?
brad:This thread got Ambiguity banned, you can thank me later. Zack G: Ambiguity is becoming the Howard Roark of RSD!
Alex: "The famous ambiguity!" + "This is what happens when your naturally attractive; cheekyinnit#! Ambiguity: I don't chase, I replace.


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persistence is not needy when it comes from place of abundance.
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 "Unless you're just including her in every awesome adventure you're on."

This.
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