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Turok

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Sick man. I like the leaving the group and coming back part. Gonna try that... This is a lot like Alex's game, except he usually doesn't get sexual in the club. I personally try to keep sexuality in the club to a minimum to prevent any type of LMR. When I get isolation and she gives me any type of LMR I back off where its to far and become extremely detached from outcome. Last pull I literally fell asleep and woke up in the middle of the night to pull of a ninja attack for the close.
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RihannaDeservedIt

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Mr. GQ wrote:
thank you man! i think this will take my game to a whole new level of awesomeness! just to make sure that i understand this properly: you are basically that massive alpha guy BUT instead of just taking that one girl you befriend all the girls´in the group. then you take the girl you want into semi-isolation, then full isolation, then bring her back and then pull?
I thought OP had some interesting points. Establishing physical dominance to eliminate LMR, but only after establishing credibility with the group seems like a damn good plan to me.

In sports, the best coaches are the ones who obsess over fundamentals. The same is probably true in pick up.
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Quality post, thanks.
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I like it. Nice read. Thanks!
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Turok

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Mr. GQ wrote:
thank you man! i think this will take my game to a whole new level of awesomeness! just to make sure that i understand this properly: you are basically that massive alpha guy BUT instead of just taking that one girl you befriend all the girls´in the group. then you take the girl you want into semi-isolation, then full isolation, then bring her back and then pull?


Exactly. Not always in any specific order or anything but I bounce between those modes. Even giving them a little time all to themselves but not too much so that they reestablish the original girl group vibe without you. If She likes you enough this won't happen but if you do leave too soon, for too long it can And then you have to do the same work over again. Sometimes you can't get the vibe back so leave on a high note after you've established a solid connection w your girl. Or just don't leave it all But you can sort of duck out of the group and dance or hang out with your friends on the outskirts from time to time
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Tyler

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Sweet contribution, thanks so much!

It def has the vibe of someone whose going out and doing this.  I've had a lot of similar experiences as well!

Basically finding that balance between knowing how to open hard VS just easing in there and merging into the group without freaking them out, figuring "enough is enough" as far as attraction and just naturally getting the girl comfortable enough to fuck you, without sacrificing the attraction that the initial harder opening type stuff would give you.

I really like how you're experimenting and honing in on the perfect mix.  Dig it.

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Trent3Reznor

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Solid.

Assume attraction, spend time with the girl, and lead when your instincts tell you. 

Aggression is great for commanding attention in loud environments but it's never necessary.

You can get away with being chill by simply getting close and talking in their ear. 

What matters most is that you're relaxed and congruent with what you project.
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AustinCC

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 solid! I think i do this pretty well these days, but always another perspective on how i can do better helps. My old wing was great at dealing with whole groups and then secretly turning girls on without their friends knowing. 

One thing i like to do, is throw out old school SOI's (statements of interest) early in the interaction without expecting any return so i can set the frame and look for compliance in terms of overall work. 

EX: "You're super cute!!!" or "I love the way you dress" and then imediately thread cutting and going somewhere else unless, of course, i get compliance. 
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Adil

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Nice!

I want to add something on these particular nuances of bouncing off/coming back to the target's group when you are solo. When you bounce off the target's group you shall not just stand there doing nothing, at least for a long time, for a number of reasons: your state can go down, you will most likely not be percieved as a prize and risk being perceived as weird :)

This is why it's important to be social in the club and have fun instead of targeting only hot girls as it becomes a crutch. I mostly go out alone, so it's inevitable that I would become too much outcome dependent if I solely focus on gaming. What I do is befriending people in general, be it girls or guys, so that there are groups of people familiar with me, to which I can come back instead of hanging out there alone. This is just common sense - if you hang out with people, you are social and not creepy. If you are standing/sitting there alone for a considerable time, then most likely you are not a prize (who you want to be). Befriend people, and even when you are chilling, people will come to you, and you are percieved as a prize again.
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