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gugarutz: growing in the field
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gugarutz

gugarutz

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it is time.


finally i know where all of you get your motivation from. i was always interested how you have this massive amount of willpower to approach and especially PUSH THROUGH with it.

I know three different negative distinct emotions which control my behaviour and my mood which i also cannot change easily.

 - the feeling of nervousness before i have an exam at university
 - the feeling i get through pain caused when i eat what i shouldnt eat. (i'm lactose intolerant and got coeliac disease)

and since today i know
 - the negative feeling a women can produce


My name is gugarutz, i'm 25 years old and i am a student. Up until ~23 i was a virgin. Besides that everything went as i wanted it to go in life, but you always want what you dont have.
One and a half years ago i started to get really annoyed by the fact that i did not know how it is to have a girlfriend.
I put all my effort and focus into filling that hole. I read the game (obviously haha), i started to look and found more and more knowledge about pickup.
For a period of a bit more than a month i sucked all information i could find from the interwebs into my brain. 

A few months later i had a girlfriend through my social circle without having to do any cold approach but simply by being just more open to it.
It was beautiful. I'd even got lucky and got a pretty good looking girlfriend (i'd say 8-8,5) but also the energy between us was very magnetic.

As it usually is in life, every good has also a bad side. In my case it was that i felt i couldnt satisfy her. I was totally inexperienced and while technically i 
wasn't a virgin any more when i first had sex with her, i still sucked like a 16 year old pubescent lil child trying to find the right hole.

It is one year later now and i never got her to a vaginal orgasm and while that isn't purely my fault it still is very saddening.
I am very open (nowaday's i'm challening that behaviour and am not sure if i should be like that) so i told her pretty much everything, also that
i read RSD, i shared my whole personality. We got into an kinda open relationship in which i actually went out once with awesome 
RSD guys and for the first time felt how it is to be in state. I miss that. I wanted to improve, i wanted to become someone better, i felt there was so much to learn and
such a big hole in my personality to fill. 

This January i was at a hotseat, since i had very many exams that time i couldnt use the momentum afterwards but i made a promise:
In february, when there are holidays and no lectures, i will go out every day, do atleast 3 sets a night but if not, as a punishment, i will burn the boats and break up with my girlfriend.

I did break up earlier this month. I started to go out more, the more time passed the more i got motivated and the more i did leave my apartment.
Yet i still did no cold approach, always social circle.
Today again, social circle. It was the first time i went out with my ex gf in the group.
Up until now we were good friends. Today she hit on someone in the group and while logically i am totally fine with that i could not stand this AWFUL feeling i had when looking at them.


The boats are ablaze now.

I dislike all these so powerful emotions i can get, i want to be in some kind of control. I'm working on all of them and to get rid of this 'women' related emotion problem
the answer is abundance, the answer is GO OUT AND APPROACH!


I went home.
I am happy.

Finally i got the drive to push through. This thread shall start a new era in my life. I will achieve abundance!

The first FR will follow on monday
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Zonk~

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Hey man, 

I can imagine that this eve with your ex-GF was a painful experience for you.
BUT, pain is a massive power. It will lead you to glory. And after a while, if you stick to the process and hit it hard, you will look back to this experience and be thankful for it.

Get the ball of cold approach rolin'!

greez,
Zonk~
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Dr Feelgood

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Ha ha ha, I had to laugh about your thread title - awesome word game (but suitable only for Austrians)!

Who are you? Do you roll with the Mountaineer/ Zonk crew and if so, where did you get to know them?
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gugarutz

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Dr Feelgood wrote:
Ha ha ha, I had to laugh about your thread title - awesome word game (but suitable only for Austrians)!

Who are you? Do you roll with the Mountaineer/ Zonk crew and if so, where did you get to know them?
I've been out with Mountaineer & Zonk one awesome night, but since i had a gf and not so much pressure to succeed in this field i let it slide.
I'm way more motivated now and I'm planning to go out solo for now but i guess our paths will cross again at some point :)

greets, gugarutz
..i hate this weather
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Mountaineer-~

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Whatup!

was wondering what happened to you after we met once... you looked dedicated and executed the stuff we talked about immediately. guess willpower won't be your problem once you really make the decision to hit this shit hard. what helps is to make a decision/promise to yourself that you go out X nights a week and take right action every time. write it down!

looking forward to your first FR! wink

Cheers!
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gugarutz

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This is my "somewhat" first FR!

I went out tonight. It is Thursday before easter. 

I came home today at 22:00 since i worked longer and was at the gym afterwards. I was very sceptical of going out since it is fucking cold and apperently in vienna during the week i have no idea where all the people are going.
Nonetheless i was motivated enough to leave my apartment. I stoped by at a friend which i convinced to come with me, i was too much of a to go out alone.
We entered the first club at around 23:30 and it was completely empty. There was nothing to do so we left and headed to schwedenplatz. There weren't many people either. We went to two clubs between 24:00 and 2:00 where
i talked to people but had no intend and was way too much of a so i wouldnt even call what i did "approach". 
Overall i'm not satisfied with what i did tonight. I clearly missed my goals.

There are many excuses for tonight but with more effort i could have done and learned more.

The conclusion for tonight is:
+ i went out
+ i relaxed at the clubs
+ i enjoyed myself

- i needed a friend
- i used my friend as an excuse to not aproach
- i consiously had many chances (strong eye contact) but did not do anything with it

at least i know how much of a hardcase i am. on the other side i will push through and at some point reach my goal to be good at pickup and everything related to it.

i'm too tired to write much now but as a last note, i am very curious where people are going during the week in vienna?! it was very cold but i dont think this is the reason for all the locations i visited being empty, or is it?

-guga
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Hey!

Good that you could force yourself to go out. But to have some progress, especially in the beginning, you should go out as often as possible. Absolute minimum, from my point of view, are 3 nights per week (Thu-Sat). Better 4 or 5 or even more if possible.
Try to find a wing! Maybe there is a friend in you social circle who is also intrested in game, self-development or just likes to have sex. ;)

Going out in Vienna during the week isn't a problem. Only Monday and Sunday are difficult. On these days you should focus on bars.

Tuesday
U4 is packed full. Definitelly the best party in town on Tuesdays. You should be there right between 22:00 and 22:30, otherwise it can happen that you don't get in anymore. 

Wednesday
Passage, Loco

Thursday-Saturday
All clubs in town.
Recommendations:
Platzshirsch, Volksgarten/Säulenhalle, Grelle Forelle, Pratersauna, Chaya Fuera
Other possibilities:
Gnadenlos, Salzbar, A-Danceclub, Praterdome, Club Couture, Manolos, Palffy Club, Lutz Club, Passage, Sass, CIty Hall (if there are special events), Bettelalm

check this out: www.oe4.com

cheers,
Zonk~
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gugarutz

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Zonk~ wrote:
Hey!

Good that you could force yourself to go out. But to have some progress, especially in the beginning, you should go out as often as possible. Absolute minimum, from my point of view, are 3 nights per week (Thu-Sat). Better 4 or 5 or even more if possible.
Try to find a wing! Maybe there is a friend in you social circle who is also intrested in game, self-development or just likes to have sex. ;)

Going out in Vienna during the week isn't a problem. Only Monday and Sunday are difficult. On these days you should focus on bars.

Tuesday
U4 is packed full. Definitelly the best party in town on Tuesdays. You should be there right between 22:00 and 22:30, otherwise it can happen that you don't get in anymore. 

Wednesday
Passage, Loco

Thursday-Saturday
All clubs in town.
Recommendations:
Platzshirsch, Volksgarten/Säulenhalle, Grelle Forelle, Pratersauna, Chaya Fuera
Other possibilities:
Gnadenlos, Salzbar, A-Danceclub, Praterdome, Club Couture, Manolos, Palffy Club, Lutz Club, Passage, Sass, CIty Hall (if there are special events), Bettelalm

check this out: www.oe4.com

cheers,
Zonk~
thanks very much,
very helpful for me!

my plans are to go out at least 4 days a week, but i'm trying to go out every day which sadly isn't always possible.
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Today i went with high school friends to the cinema in a town in lower austria.
I told myself i have to go out today after the cinema!
this was a first for me. After the movie and after playing a few games of billard my friends left. It was raining and cold, i really did not want to
go home but i wasn't in a very partyish mood either. To keep my conscience at peace i had to go to the city where i had not much idea about clubs or locations.
I babysteped it and told myself i can drive to the center of the city and walk at least around. I spotted a bar which i entered and in which i walked in circles lol...
In the club i babysteped again and finally overcame my anxiety and approached. I had no clear intend tho and i did nothing what one could call a good approach.

But i overcame my fear, i could feel my state rising. Sadly i had fulfilled my goal for the night and wasnt in state yet so i pussied out and went home ..
i could have done far more but i am happy for what i achieved.. it is only the beginning and i am patient.

For today (saturday) i will try to figure out a better "battle plan" since when i'm down in the club i need a clear goal or mission what to do. Something to get unstifled.
I also now that i'm lacking the carelessness i remember i saw when i was out with zonk and mountaineer, they just didnt give a fuck lol i need to relax more. (easier said than done)

anyways let's conclude:
+ i went out by babysteping even tho it was a very unknown environment
+ i did not leave the club until i reached my goal for the night (for the future i have to set clearer goals tho)
+ i finally approached

- i gave up way to early (my goals for the night were clearly too low)
- i should have fueled the car .. i was very very close of running out of fuel on my way back lol

overall i'd say it was a positive night considering that i'm a fucking chode still.

good night,
gugarutz 
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 i just came home from ride club.

it is very early and i am in a very bad mood. now i know how much i have to learn and how much i suck.

to keep going with my FRs here's a short summary of the last few days:

Saturday: i'm in an aweful mood, i stay home ololol i suck

Sunday: since i didn't go out Saturday i went to Stephansdom with a friend who's also interested in pickup and also a beginner.
There were only tourists and no HBs so we did what sasha (daygame) does to get unstifled which is talk to people until they leave and that kind of stuff.

Sunday night i had to be at my parents place so no going out.

Monday...

i have to think about today but i can say i suck. the club was packed with girls and i did only a few aproaches and these went not very well because i
wasn't happy. which is the case since i force myself to go out. i guess i have to rething that mindset i leave my place with.

It is very hard though, to have a mindset which is about having fun when you go out as complete chodes alone without alcohol.. 
have to learn that, also have to learn to self amuse myself and dont give a fuck about what the girls think about how i do that.


fyi: apparently ride club is very crowded on mondays since monday is erasmus day. it is full of students.
and on another note, i watched the barkeeper setup a pull with a friend of his haha seemed like tight game.

hugs
gugarutz
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Dr Feelgood

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During the week you can pretty much forget in most of Europe. The options are limited in Vienna:

Monday: Q

Tuesday: U4 or Passage (or Q, I believe, but never done that)

Wednesday: Passage

Thursday: Better options, for me the best was always Volksgarten

Passage is shit on weekends, but usefull on Tue + Wed. The Stadtbahnbögen should have something going on, but often there are very few people. Never bothered, as the audience there is too young for my taste,

On Sundays Fledermaus is a possibility; Ride Club is mostly empty and very expensive.
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