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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

Got like a 30 page FR thing on a private site, but I think from now on, I'll post here just because I havent touched that thing in like a year. + I need to keep track of myself with missions, progress, and whatever. For the last few months its been a bit disorganized and I don't have time to fuck around anymore.

Main lessons learned from these:

Daygame Bootcamp '10
- how to approach

Tyler Hotseat Oct '12
- laser eyes
- when to be aggressive and how to calibrate that

Alex Hotseat Nov '12
- what is a shit test/enduring
- persistence
- friendly + cool game

Todd Bootcamp March '13
- how to interlace intent into interactions just by vibe
- need to have more fun: fix by trying to make sets fail in beginning of night to lose freedom from outcome
- everything about my game is fine except for the having fun part. once I have fun, i'm good to go.
- persisting past obstacles to the pull
- bf objection doesn't matter, persist

OLD FR JOURNAL LESSONS:
- Cultivate empathy
- EVEN IN SOCIAL CIRCLE GAME YOU NEED TO SHOW INTENT IN FIRST INTERACTION
- Girls can detect your "50 different types of smiles" there's no room for incongruence so don't even try
- To create an emotional connection you need to share emotions. Its not from telling random stories, but from sharing the underlying emotions behind those random stories that bring the story to life. (Story = drawing, Emotion = Color, Story + Emotions = Painting)
- Sincere personality compliments > Physical. Physical can be about anyone
- Cold reads happen naturally from listening and empathizing.
- Be completely carefree and nonjudgmental of how they live their life beyond you. Unconditional acceptance gives her room to open up.
- Being vulnerable about who you are = Alpha Male = Core Confidence

Goals/To work on, with specific drills in mind:
- sexual vibe (slow down speech + close proximity + calm, laser eyes)
DRILL: Remain present about slowing down speech for whole day
DRILL: Pretty good at cutting space already. Try opening far, and moving close over time
DRILL: Approaching with a smile + calm eyes

- having fun
DRILL: try to make the first few sets fail on purpose, preferably in the most comical manner possible

- forming the habit of approaching all the time
DRILL: 30 Day challenge of gaming everyday
ADVANCED DRILL: 30 Days of approaching every hot girl you can

- following up on phone numbers + text game
DRILL: burn every number down

- 2000 approaches
DRILL: Do along with habit. Just keep count at the end of each night.




Last Week till Now
Wednesday: was doing pretty good in daygame, got two solid numbers. just set up a date with one in about 3 hours from the time I am writing this. Rose (held my hand on the approach, number was solid, lost its grip from lack of time to pounce on it...try to revive this week) + Alehandra (date set up) + Asian girl (it was on from the meeting, but should've tried to pull her instead of giving her the responsibilty of calling me since she didn't have an American number)
Thursday: not sure what happened
Friday: took too much melatonin...passed out the whole night
Saturday: was way too drunk. had a blast for St. Paddy's. ankle out of commission.
Sunday: bedridden due ot ankle
Monday (today): got out of work bc of ankle, trying to set date up for later. maybe she'll be into my gangsta lean.
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

 Just went on the date.
Girl was hotter than I thought she'd be.
A headturner.

Anyway fucked up the date with complete chode moves. ARGH so frustrating.

Mistakes:
- took her to a bad place to start. Max Brenner. Expensive, no space for good touching, but it did give her room to get comfortable because she was shy. Probably could've gotten into deeper rapport. Need sexual frame from the start.
A COMPLETE CHODE MOVE. 

Fucking disappointing.
Couldn't build sexual tension.
Fuck.
Fuck FUCK FUCK!!

Noticed she didn't want to hold hands, didn't hold long eye contact none of that. Idk why she'd come out then.


LESSON LEARNED
Listen to this song beforehand. 


Good News:
Was not going on many dates from Daygame before. Keep up that intent off the first interaction. Thats what got you the date in the first place.


From now on:
No Fap, No Porn. That shit got you LAID when you were doing that 60 day challenge numerous times. (ending: May 18th)
Cheap/free dates where physical proximity is guaranteed

Ideas (please contribute if anyone has suggestions:
Shopping dates (columbus circle, jamba juice) (can manage for under 21s)
Bookstores (can manage for under 21s)
Hookah (can manage for under 21s)
Need to find a list of intimate bars
Southstreet seaport (when weather is nice)(can manage for under 21s)
Apple Bar (need to find hours)
Union Hall in bj
That one bar with no name in Greenpoint.
Decibel on 9th st
Brooklyn Bowl (can manage for under 21s)
Old Carriage Inn
Museums (can manage for under 21s)
Might be a rip off but those Times Square places might have something to them (can manage for under 21s)
Fat Cat
Slate
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

Main goals: I need to work on:
- 2000 approaches in two months
- Follow the process
- Find something funny in each set

Not enough action is being taken. This is the biggest problem.

May 23rd should have these achieved.
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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End of 1st day of Alex's Hotseat in NYC.

Lesson that needs to be applied in field:
1. BE AROUSING, NOT ATTRACTIVE = RANGE OF EMOTIONS = +/- expressions
2. Be there at the end of the night when she leaves.


Overall had a hard time getting sets to hook. Had one where I could've kept going but I let it slip away. ARGH!
Fun night, could've done more.
Focus on opening in an arousing way and keeping that up.
Got around bouncers and staff just by being persistent and actually asking about shit. got into a private party as well as a bar that way.

LESSONS LEARNED:
1. Stay in one bar. Beauty bar was awesome. don't fucking leave like a dumbass when shit doesn't immediately go your way.
2. TIME - stay in set. re-open. there was nnumerous times the polish girl was standing near you dancing. you could re-opened. that what she was there for. dumb. ass. don't leave until its solid and you could at least get a phone number if you wanted
3. Need to use more positive and negative expressions.
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

jerked it today. fucked up. 12 day run. back on it.

biggest realization: there's no reason why your not enough.

stop trying.
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

 hehe maybe try a little. need to open way more. did daygame for about 2 hours today. only opened like 3 times. none hooked. realizing that alex's indirect method is really only to get them to stop and not trigger any defenses.

I think i'm going back to doing direct game, mainly to polarize and hook the set, but afterwards stay in set way longer to build it up.

need to work on:
- relaxed all the time. notice body tensed up sometimes.
- positive and negative expressions
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

 went out tonight. got rejected from first place. no single dudes. fags.

went to another place.
opened idk how many sets maybe 8-12. hooked definitely 3, probably more if i was more sober to remember.

one black girl, - should've watched the exit
andother black girl i was grinding on and making out with - should've watched the exit
another girl who was half black half indian that was with her brother - should've watched the exit
another girl that was with her brother - should've re opened

tons more girls that i can't remember. 

had a ball tonight. it was a fucking blast. just went out with diego and partied my ass off.

talked with mad dudes, mad girls, bouncers. everyone. just having a good time. dudes spilled my drink and gave me his and then his sister gave me some of hers. everyone loves it when your in an awesome mood. 

lessons learned:
bring girls to the club to get into places
learn bouncer game
WATCH
 THE FUCKING EXIT



MY NEW THEORY ON GAME:
ALCOHOL + ALCOHOL = FREEDOM FROM OUTCOME
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

 went out tonight. not that many hot girls in bk. but williamsburg. argh no approaches. just chilled out because i knew i could kill it...but i didnt. what a bitch.

tomorrow daygame. need to go hard. goal is 10 solid approaches
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barney stintson

barney stintson

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Join Date: 07/12/2010 | Posts: 229

Just got back from slope day at Cornell. DRUNK AS SHIT GAME!!!!!

Was fucking awesome. Went with a few wings, approached like 25-40 girls. Forgot at this rate.

Memorable sets:
3 Girls in first night. - clawed her over. Trying to put arm around my neck she got defensive. was walking off. said she's going to some place, possibly was an invitation. eitehr way i had bad eye contact.

Approaches in beginning of the day. did this more out of an attempt to get started. didn't really hook, some were kinda funny. its funny to lie when your bored.

Perfect approach. Did hand of god on probably the hottest girl in the city. Pulled her in while saying "hand of god, hand of god" she was like "whats hand of god?" and i go "these are the hands of god" and i show her my hands and try to wrap them around me. Anyway her friends gets so mad she complains to bouncer after chewing us out. Bouncer laughs at her and walks away. Hilarious.

Girl on Molly. Mad hot. Approached with complete bullshit while plowing. No filters. instant attraction, though i couldn't see it. Was giving me shit tests by acting like a brat...later did I realize this when she was being perfectly civil to other guys. ARGH! god its so hard being attractive.

"You look like a good fuck" girl - was saying this mainly to see if it would work not because i actually thought she would be a good fuck. INSTANT BLOWOUT.
VS
I like you bent over girl. i saw her bent over and i walked up to her and i said i think you look nice...when you're bent over. NO FILTERS. stuck through the initial shittest and it hooked. saw my friend from out of town so i guess i blew her out.

WENT COMPLETELY OUT OF STATE INTO PURE HELL FOR 2 HOURS. THEN CAME BACK WITH SOME GLORY!

Two black girls (one was diving) walking back from 7Eleven. One was a total cutie and she was quiet and attentive for me. I should've just kept talking. She was definitely into me and if I had just walked her home, who knows what could've happened...ARGH!!...i went in with complete congruence about being nervous and just kinda rambled on. was solid with my intent, was pretty free from outcome since it was toward the end of the night. i was actually quite out of state when this happened. had like a 2 hour state crash of pure disgust and apathy of the night because our housing situation for the night looked like it wasn't gonna pan out.

Black girl in bagel shop. go up to her with straight congruence that i think she's hot, because i legitimately thought she did.  very strong approach in beginning. hand holding, head massage, etc. later ruined it because went to no physicality. she was legitimately attracted in beginning though. /tried to make out with her during low point when she wanted to leavebut she wasn't feeling it. she seemed to have gotten bored and then wanted to go back ot her friend. should provide more arousal and better eye contact.

Girl walked to pizza shop. didn't actually think she was hot, did this more out of my desperation to pull for board. didn't escalate at all physically was very friend ot friend. felt like a chasing chode the whole time. fuck that shit.

Overall, ended the night stronger when it looked like it was over. Being social is way better than gaming especially in college environment. lots of useful info from Distant Light. Good shit from him last week on the forums.




Biggest lessons:
- saw alot of times i'd get blown out for overescalation because I needed constant validation from her to keep going and i wasn't getting it, so i'd try to force something to happen. which would nearly always be a blowout --> solution: create a lifestyle that makes you happy

-Overagressiveness - doesn't work. needs more congruence can't use it as a tactic.

-Need to decrease RXN time to approach (practice more street game)

- need to be able to talk for hours

- About plowing: Alex plows and same with julien. When you plow use short sentences that have bursts of emotion in them whether in your sub comms (voice, looks) or in content.

- illogicality - need to figure out how to switch into that mindset. CRUCIAL!!!

- alcohol doesn't provide me with fuel. it weakens me. should just quit drinking.

- Socializing > "gaming" - when you're gaming you are supposed to do the same thing as socializing except you put the hot girl on a pedestal and it turns into "gaming" ...that fucks you up in trying to get the girl. kinda paradoxical. but possibly the way to game girls is in fact to stop gaming and start SOCIALIZING.  i think i'm done with game for this reason. no more pedestal.
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tdotpickupcoach

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Join Date: 05/05/2013 | Posts: 7

 wow alcohol is really that good huh?
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tdotpickupcoach

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 union hall in BJ? sorry for double post but, what does that mean
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