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December 13th, 2017
Talking to Cops is Always Dumb
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ChuckBr

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Join Date: 11/17/2010 | Posts: 412

I was at my friend's party on Saturday and the cops came. I could see that some attendees were being stupid and opening the door to let the cops come in--they can't come in unless you let them--so I interjected myself and said, "I know for a fact that you can't come in this apartment unless you're invited." The party was crowded and someone sort of pushed me forward, so the cop thought I was closing the door on them, so they forced their way in. 

One of the cops flips out and detains me for forty-five minutes, mocking me for trying to "play lawyer" and threatening to take me in for "obstructing governmental authority." I knew I had fucked up, but I didn't think she was going to arrest me so I didn't give her the total silent treatment--I just answered questions as minimally as possible and kept asking if I was free to go.  I think she realized that she had sort of acted up by forcing her way in though, so she didn't end up arresting me. 

Bottom line, though, is that willingly putting yourself into a cop's RAS is just fucking stupid. It wasn't my party, so I didn't have to talk to them--I could have just fucking left.  
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I am human

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you also gave them consent to retain you for 45 minutes. thats why you have to ask them to clearly state whther youre detained or not. had it gotten to court it would be labeled as you voluntariily talking to police's for 45 minutes. if you are not detained you can and should walk away at any moment.
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ChuckBr

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I kept asking, "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?". They said I was being detained. 
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I am human

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ChuckBr wrote:
I kept asking, "Am I being detained, or am I free to go?". They said I was being detained. 
sounds like they did something illegal then.
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Manwhore

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For an investigative stop or detention to be valid, an officer must have "reasonable suspicion" that: (1) criminal activity may be afoot and (2) the person you are about to detain is connected with that possible criminal activity. (Wardlow (2000) 528 U.S. 119; Ornelas (1996) 517 U.S. 690, 695-696; Sokolow (1989) 490 U.S. 1, 7-8)
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MastahDeft

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"Nah they were just smokin ice and having a few bowls"
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coolcoolguy

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nice
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Kody_star

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You were dumb enough to draw enough attention to yourself to have the cops show up in the first place. Now, stoned, drunk, wasted out of your mind, your judgement is too far gone to make a rational decision. Multiply that by however many dozens of knuckleheads are surrounding you 'advising' you.

And now you're here trying to give advice.
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Kody_star wrote:
You were dumb enough to draw enough attention to yourself to have the cops show up in the first place. Now, stoned, drunk, wasted out of your mind, your judgement is too far gone to make a rational decision. Multiply that by however many dozens of knuckleheads are surrounding you 'advising' you.

And now you're here trying to give advice.

wow, what a stupid post.

Anyway...

Better call saul! 
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