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FINALLY (Newbies Rejoice!) Down And Dirty Guide For Bedding HOT Girls By Talking Endlessly (The Complete Guide to Verbal Game)
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Obisco

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In this post, I’m going to go over the basics of why we run out of things to say, how to never run out of things, where verbal ammunition for conversation comes from and the best techniques I’ve found for talking endlessly.

Alright, so you’ve finally mustered up the balls to approach that girl you’ve been eyeing from across the room for the last half hour. You open strong with a direct opener, her eyes light up, everything is going just fine. Heck, maybe you even hook the set and she stands there looking longingly into your eyes and you realize…..you’ve run out of things to say.

So why do we run out of things to say when talking to a hot girl and what can be done to fix this problem? Let’s start by addressing why we run out of things to say. The number one cause of running out things to say is feeling a need to impress the girl. Basically, coming from a place of impression rather than expression. Think about it: Do you run out of things to say when talking to your friends? Why do you think that is? Probably because you’re not trying to get in their pants!

So what is the solution the solution to this problem? It’s simple, stop trying to think of how you can talk your way into getting the girl and instead express yourself fully. Talk about what you like and enjoy, your experiences, and things that genuinely interest you. When you talk about things that genuinely interests you, the girl can feel you're not putting on an act or trying to impress her. She will feel good emootions because you feel good about what you're talking about. It doesn't matter what it is, all that matters is you're passionate about something. Remove the filters and lower the bar of what you find acceptable to say to the girl. This is basically the inner game of verbal game. But I’m not going to leave you there (that would be too easy ;)). Next let’s look at where your verbal ammunition for conversation comes from.

So where exactly do you get the inspiration for tight verbal game? What are the sources for your verbal ammunition in million dollar mouthpiece? To be honest, there’s only three places conversation comes from: You, the girl, and your environment. That’s pretty much it. You either draw on your past experiences, interests, present life, future plans; the girl’s experiences, life and plans or conversation arousing from your current environment. This is basically the building blocks for verbal game.

Finally, I want to give you some techniques and exercises to practice your verbal game:

1. Riffing

This is just saying any sentence and picking a word out of the sentence and flowing off of that to the next sentence and so on and so forth.

Eg. “I had a pretty good day today, I got a lot of work done at the office and did some shopping and got a cool new pair of shades. Speaking of shades, it’s really been sunny these past few days, Kind of makes me glad I don’t live in Alaska or some cold place. Although it could be fun to live in Alaska, I really like to travel and experience different cultures and other walks of life…blah, blah, blah.
Just practice flowing off sentences and picking words or topics out of those for new sentences. Practice that for 5 minutes before you go out and look at the difference.

2. “I like” Riffing

This is like riffing, but the difference is you begin each sentence with “I like…” then go into a topic you like for 10-30 seconds. Then start the next sentence in the same manner.

Eg. “I like reading magazines. It’s so amazing how you can find a magazine on pretty much any topic you can think of that interests you. I guess I’m naturally inclined to like magazines because I’m a visual person…..
“I like Italian food. I think Pepperoni Pizza and Spaghetti are some of the best dishes ever invented. What is it about Italian people that makes them make such bomb and food? Shit is like an orgy in my mouth every time I’m at Luigi’s. You can really taste the soul of their whole culture from just one dish. So cool…..

You can do practice that for 5 minutes at a time before you go out as with riffing.

3. Word Stories

This is making a short 2-3 minute story out of a word or topic the girl says to you.

Eg. Girl: “Yeah, so I had to pick up my dog from the vet today. He broke his paw.”

You: “Awww, that’s so sad. That reminds me of when I was young. My parents loved animals and we had a house full of them. Dogs, cats, birds, hamsters, amphibians… you name it; we had it. Me and my brothers used to wreck so much stuff around the house and we’d try to pass it off on the pets. It was always interesting to see how much damage you could get away with causing before you actually have to take some responsibility. Sometimes we really got into some big trouble but we made it out and we always had each other’s backs. I think our pets really brought us close and of course we love them too….

4. Questions into Statements

This is an old RSD one. Basically instead of asking the interview questions like “ Where are you from?” or “What do you do”, instead turn that question into a statement. You get the same information and even if you assume incorrectly, she might wonder why you think that.

Eg. Question: “Where are you from?” , “What do you do?”, “What are you up to?”
Statement: “You look Swedish” ,“Lemme guess, you’re a fashion designer”, “You look like you’ve just done the best shopping of your life” etc.

To practice this, just go about your day-to-day and try to make 3 observations about the people that you see.

5. Drawing from your Environment

Last tip is just drawing from the conversation from things in your environment. Pretty self-explanatory.

Eg. Someone just spilled a drink

You: “Aww, man I had when that happens. You pay $5 for the drink and then you spill it all on the floor. Talk about having a bad day. I know it may sound crazy, but I can think of way better ways to spend 5 bucks. I’m just glad it didn’t happen to me. I gotta make the most out of all the cash I have, because I need to make my first million before I turn 35…

To practice this, just look around next time you’re out walking or driving and just start talking about what you see in your environment. Even making stories out of the things you see. It’s really fun and it helps to get the mouth moving and spitting out gold.

Well, that’s pretty much it. I’ve shown you why you run out of things to say, how to stop that from happening, techniques for talking endlessly and exercises to practice what you’ve learned. I hope this can serve as a complete guide to all the newbies out there who need help keeping a conversation going so they can get out there, talk to hot girls without worrying about what to say and get laid!
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Aerios

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 Thats cool and all but this is just the se basic stuff that is mentioned in every verbal game thread.

how do you do the man-to-woman self amusing million dollar mouthpiece? all the inatructors and giys with good game i have seen speak in a very man-to-woman flirting way throighout their interactions and especiallg just after the open. 

on the one hand they say that you can talk about anything, but on the other hand you dont see them talking about boring shit like this. they are very charasmatic guya
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Aerios wrote:
 Thats cool and all but this is just the se basic stuff that is mentioned in every verbal game thread.

how do you do the man-to-woman self amusing million dollar mouthpiece? all the inatructors and giys with good game i have seen speak in a very man-to-woman flirting way throighout their interactions and especiallg just after the open. 

on the one hand they say that you can talk about anything, but on the other hand you dont see them talking about boring shit like this. they are very charasmatic guya
Man-to-woman isn't communicated through words, it's communicated through nonverbals (subcommunication). Things like eye contact, proxiimity, physicality, BR tonality, speaking slowly.. A good example was Tyler's latest video. He was talking about fur, but made out with the girl within a few seconds. it wasn't about the words; it was about the underlying vibe behind them. What you talk about really doesn't matter as long as your passionate about what you're saying and you have good nonverbals, that's really all you need. Besides, these kind of exercises are more like the training wheels to get you in there having longer conversations. You really learn to dial that man-to-woman vibe through field experience and going out rather than reading on the net. This is just a starter guide to get you in there.

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 Man to woman is definitely communicated through your choice of words. This is a basic primer on verbal game. The rabbit hole goes deep..
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Obisco

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Manwhore wrote:
 Man to woman is definitely communicated through your choice of words. This is a basic primer on verbal game. The rabbit hole goes deep..


I think it becomes part of it at a more advanced level. Would you say a guy that comes up to a girl with his shoulder shoulders sloouched, breaking eye contact, mumblings his words and says "Damn girl, your sexy as fuck. You do not want to know the things I'm thinking of doing to you right now" is communicating main to woman? I feel like primarily it's communicated through subcomms until you get to a more advanced level.
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No one way. No one way to talk.
You need to master it by yourself.By your own rules and standarts.
I can say watch Californication. There are a lot of good dialogs which you can apply in convos and maybe get the better idea of a good way to talk.
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No one way. No one way to talk.
You need to master it by yourself.By your own rules and standarts.
I can say watch Californication. There are a lot of good dialogs which you can apply in convos and maybe get the better idea of a good way to talk.
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Going out and doing tons of approaches doesnt magically fiz this problem. ive beengoing out 7 days a week for over a year and have done several thousand sets but i still struggle immensely with communixatinf verbally in a man to woman way. my physicality, vibe, eye contaxt, voice, leading and evrything else is pretty tight but my inabiloty to express myself verbally in an interesting way is always fucking me up.i xan talk forever about bpring shit by doing the same things listed in thr OP but i ca!nt think of more interesting ans creative ways to talk because om generally a boring pwrson. even with my closw friends im extremely logical ans even when i ttry to do free association response exwrcises at home i cant come up with funny stuff rjat self amuses me or man to woman stufd.

sorry for typos typing this on my tiny phone keyboard
Obisco wrote:

Aerios wrote:
 Thats cool and all but this is just the se basic stuff that is mentioned in every verbal game thread.

how do you do the man-to-woman self amusing million dollar mouthpiece? all the inatructors and giys with good game i have seen speak in a very man-to-woman flirting way throighout their interactions and especiallg just after the open. 

on the one hand they say that you can talk about anything, but on the other hand you dont see them talking about boring shit like this. they are very charasmatic guya
Man-to-woman isn't communicated through words, it's communicated through nonverbals (subcommunication). Things like eye contact, proxiimity, physicality, BR tonality, speaking slowly.. A good example was Tyler's latest video. He was talking about fur, but made out with the girl within a few seconds. it wasn't about the words; it was about the underlying vibe behind them. What you talk about really doesn't matter as long as your passionate about what you're saying and you have good nonverbals, that's really all you need. Besides, these kind of exercises are more like the training wheels to get you in there having longer conversations. You really learn to dial that man-to-woman vibe through field experience and going out rather than reading on the net. This is just a starter guide to get you in there.



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Aerios wrote:
Going out and doing tons of approaches doesnt magically fiz this problem. ive beengoing out 7 days a week for over a year and have done several thousand sets but i still struggle immensely with communixatinf verbally in a man to woman way.
I hear that. I've been going out for years. I'm confident as fuck--I'm like practically borderline narcissist--I'm not scared to talk to girls, I escalate without a hint of shame... I've pulled...I've had ONSs and short-term gfs... I had a reputation for being a huge player--which was totally undeserved...I only hooked up with like 3 or 4 girls over...I don't know, six months or something at that particular place...

But I never mastered, or even surpassed novice level, at the verbal game of cold approach. Ever since I gave up on routines, my entire verbal game consisted of nothing but normal conversation. What's up? Where are you from? Oh cool, blah blah blah. It works...sometimes. Unless you're in a club, and it's very loud, or anywhere else with lots of distractions...then it doesn't work at all. Or if they don't speak English hardly at all.

Don't tell me to lower the bar, ok... I eat dinner in awkward silence with my dad. I promise you I'm not trying to think of the right thing to say to impress him. We're just not talkative people. And walking up to strangers and verbally plowing is just not a normal or natural thing to do, no matter how you try to reframe it. But it's something you can learn and get good at with practice. Now, for the first time in years, I see the way forward. I'm pretty fucking pumped about it.
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 I think this is a great post for guys who run out of things to say. I remember I use to have this problem. But I think this is merely a starting point. Eventually a guy needs to get away from the idea of verbal vomit and be more selective and sexual with his words and how he uses them to invoke the sexual chemistry needed to facilitate sex.

HOWEVER--I think that it can also lead to not being SEXUAL with her. 

I find that a lot of times, a guy needs to shut the f*ck up and just be sexual. That's a lot more congruent especially if the guy really wants to fuck her than barfing out a bunch of shit. 

Think about after you've fucked a girl a few times and you're on the couch with her, and you know you're going to fuck her again. Think about how you look at her, the words you use, the body language you display, the tonality, etc. Sometimes you might say very little but yet express a lot through these other aspects. Try to embrace that frame. Verbal vomit will likely lead you to becoming the entertaining guy who is cool to talk to but who is not going to get you laid. It's a matter of knowing when to keep the conversation rolling and knowing when to shut the fuck up. 
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I always run out of things to say, this was helpful thanks! I've started to get more comfortble with silence tho cuz i used to think silence was awkward as fuck, but i figure silence forces the girls to talk aswell which is good i guess..
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